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johnc250 posted 01-14-2002 09:38 AM ET (US)
Always wanted one. Just may do it.
It's advertised as a 1984 22' Outrage.
Has a good looking T-Top, and a 1990 200hp merc.
Owner says hull is in very good shape.
Engine runs well "very dependable, but needs work."
He's asking $15,000.
ANy guidance would be appreciated regarding information on the 1984 hull, and any other useful information.
Thanks in advance.
Bigshot posted 01-14-2002 10:53 AM ET (US)
1884, man that is old!
Eagleman posted 01-14-2002 11:38 AM ET (US)
Johnc250,
I currently run a 1984 22' Outrage w/225 Evinrude, have owned for 5 years. I find the boat to be a nice handling able to handle alot of sea's with confidence. We've added a stern wrap around seat to allow for a nicer seating arrangement. Have a RPS at the console with cooler w/cushion in front of the console. It's a solid boat and pulls reasonably well behind our Classic Jeep Wagoneer. Check out the hull's condition that's the basis of your investment.The price of $15,000.00 is in the ball park if it's on a trailer and every thing runs.I'd be a little concerned about "dependable, but needs work" that could be a can of worms. Good luck
Eagleman
reelescape1 posted 01-14-2002 12:13 PM ET (US)
Check out my 22' OR for sale, it's listed under Marketplace.
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/reelescape1
David Ratusnik posted 01-14-2002 01:52 PM ET (US)
John- On the surface of it, the price is right. The price assumes two things 1-will the seller take you out for a sea trial. Take it out, if you can run it up to about 5800 rpm I'd say the seller is correct, it needs abit of work. 2- a trailer should come with the deal plus the electronics and other items like fenders etc. Keep in mind that you have the pricing advantage right now- the used boat market (even for Whalers) is real soft, the weather is cold in most parts and he is trying to move a boat with imperfections. If the engine needs just a little work why hasn't he done it? For 15K, the engine should get you down the road a couple years minimum. 15K is too high for the hull without a viable motor. Your instincts are correct, buy an Outrage and buy it soon. David
David Ratusnik posted 01-14-2002 03:53 PM ET (US)
John- Just a thought looking at reels...post re his 1990 22' OR. He is at 23K and the boat you are lusting after is 15K. Reels boat looks loaded to me plus he is apparently running OMC twins- if you want to fish his is probably a better setup. Also, I suspect his boat is very clean. On reels downside, let's face it all the electronics etc depreciate like lead leaving the seller without much $$'s to show for them. You two guys ought to talk turkey before money changes hands here. Look for an in between position. Good luck, David the Yenta.
maverick posted 01-14-2002 07:46 PM ET (US)
John250 -
My brother in Jax FLA is considering selling his early 80s (1983??) Outrage 22. It's a very nice looking center console boat with galv double axle trailer. The Johnson 225?? motor is an older vintage but I believe it has low hours and runs out great, last time I heard it go. My brother currently takes it out miles fishing, so he has great confidence in the rig, and loves the ride, speed, etc. I think he's spent a few bucks on new wiring and some other things - I saw rig last month. Looked pretty darn good...would look better in [my] driveway, however! Give him a shout. He's Glenn Weigle, gwweigle@hotmail.com I'll tell you this, though - he has someone stopping by his beach house about once a week trying to steal it [buy it] for peanuts, and he gets quite perturbed at tire kickers. (He knows it's a good rig, and really likes it, similiar to most Whaler owners, but his better half wants a boat with a cabin so he's been kicking around the idea of selling.) If a buyer is serious, though, I'm certain he'll give a good deal (I'd bet a lot less than $15,000), for sure. I'd check it out if I was you - not many 22s for sale. Best, Mav


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Author	Topic: Good Deal? 1884 22' OR
johnc250	posted 01-14-2002 09:38 AM ET (US) Always wanted one. Just may do it. It's advertised as a 1984 22' Outrage. Has a good looking T-Top, and a 1990 200hp merc. Owner says hull is in very good shape. Engine runs well "very dependable, but needs work." He's asking $15,000. ANy guidance would be appreciated regarding information on the 1984 hull, and any other useful information. Thanks in advance.
Bigshot	posted 01-14-2002 10:53 AM ET (US) 1884, man that is old!
Eagleman	posted 01-14-2002 11:38 AM ET (US) Johnc250, I currently run a 1984 22' Outrage w/225 Evinrude, have owned for 5 years. I find the boat to be a nice handling able to handle alot of sea's with confidence. We've added a stern wrap around seat to allow for a nicer seating arrangement. Have a RPS at the console with cooler w/cushion in front of the console. It's a solid boat and pulls reasonably well behind our Classic Jeep Wagoneer. Check out the hull's condition that's the basis of your investment.The price of $15,000.00 is in the ball park if it's on a trailer and every thing runs.I'd be a little concerned about "dependable, but needs work" that could be a can of worms. Good luck Eagleman
reelescape1	posted 01-14-2002 12:13 PM ET (US) Check out my 22' OR for sale, it's listed under Marketplace. http://briefcase.yahoo.com/reelescape1
David Ratusnik	posted 01-14-2002 01:52 PM ET (US) John- On the surface of it, the price is right. The price assumes two things 1-will the seller take you out for a sea trial. Take it out, if you can run it up to about 5800 rpm I'd say the seller is correct, it needs abit of work. 2- a trailer should come with the deal plus the electronics and other items like fenders etc. Keep in mind that you have the pricing advantage right now- the used boat market (even for Whalers) is real soft, the weather is cold in most parts and he is trying to move a boat with imperfections. If the engine needs just a little work why hasn't he done it? For 15K, the engine should get you down the road a couple years minimum. 15K is too high for the hull without a viable motor. Your instincts are correct, buy an Outrage and buy it soon. David
David Ratusnik	posted 01-14-2002 03:53 PM ET (US) John- Just a thought looking at reels...post re his 1990 22' OR. He is at 23K and the boat you are lusting after is 15K. Reels boat looks loaded to me plus he is apparently running OMC twins- if you want to fish his is probably a better setup. Also, I suspect his boat is very clean. On reels downside, let's face it all the electronics etc depreciate like lead leaving the seller without much $$'s to show for them. You two guys ought to talk turkey before money changes hands here. Look for an in between position. Good luck, David the Yenta.
maverick	posted 01-14-2002 07:46 PM ET (US) John250 - My brother in Jax FLA is considering selling his early 80s (1983??) Outrage 22. It's a very nice looking center console boat with galv double axle trailer. The Johnson 225?? motor is an older vintage but I believe it has low hours and runs out great, last time I heard it go. My brother currently takes it out miles fishing, so he has great confidence in the rig, and loves the ride, speed, etc. I think he's spent a few bucks on new wiring and some other things - I saw rig last month. Looked pretty darn good...would look better in [my] driveway, however! Give him a shout. He's Glenn Weigle, gwweigle@hotmail.com I'll tell you this, though - he has someone stopping by his beach house about once a week trying to steal it [buy it] for peanuts, and he gets quite perturbed at tire kickers. (He knows it's a good rig, and really likes it, similiar to most Whaler owners, but his better half wants a boat with a cabin so he's been kicking around the idea of selling.) If a buyer is serious, though, I'm certain he'll give a good deal (I'd bet a lot less than $15,000), for sure. I'd check it out if I was you - not many 22s for sale. Best, Mav