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peteinsf posted 03-07-2002 09:33 PM ET (US)
I know, BIG.
Does it have an offical name like "Storage RPS". It looks extra fat with the standard console. I am leaning towards Kingfish's setup with the leaning post and igloo, but I not sure what to call mine...
peteinsf posted 03-07-2002 09:34 PM ET (US)
This will help
http://pete.esquared.net/BwConRear.jpg
Tom W Clark posted 03-07-2002 09:34 PM ET (US)
huh?
Tom W Clark posted 03-07-2002 09:36 PM ET (US)
Ah, the picture helps. Pete, that is known as the "lame aftermarket RPS", to be precise.
JBCornwell posted 03-07-2002 11:06 PM ET (US)
Ugh! What was it that Chester Riley used to say? Um... "What a revoltin' development this is!"
Still, it looks a lot better than most aftermarket flippers.
Red sky at night. . .
JB :)
dscew posted 03-07-2002 11:27 PM ET (US)
Doesn't look that lame to me; even the ribbed vinyl looks pretty whaler-like. Looks comfy too!
Kelly posted 03-08-2002 09:51 AM ET (US)
Let's see, comfortable seating and more lockable storage. I would have to go out and use this boat the way the owner uses it before I gave it the "lame" designation. Kelly
peteinsf posted 03-09-2002 07:25 PM ET (US)
I was told it was factory, but I can't find it in my '80 options catalogs...
Dick posted 03-09-2002 07:37 PM ET (US)
When I took over as parts manager for the Sea Ray/Whaler dealer here in Seattle there were a bunch of old cushions in the warehouse. They had been inherited from the previous dealer. The vinyl pattern and piping look like the same as that RPS.
Sold everything at giveaway prices including a bunch of unused Mills canvas. Sorry guys I didn't know about this site then.
Tom W Clark posted 03-09-2002 08:13 PM ET (US)
Pete,
It is NOT factory. Yes, the upholstery looks like the upholstery used on Whalers in the late 1970's and 1980's. So what? Somebody is feeding you a line.
Look at the picture. The "dock box" with a seat back looks like it is new, the boat does not. Maybe it was just reupholstered. If so, wouldn't it be reasonable to think they would choose fabric like that used on a Whaler of this vintage? It is readily available.
This boat looks to be a 22' Outrage from 1986, 1987 or 1988 based on the console. If the console is a replacement, I'd say it was an early 1980's model. Given the teak gunwale boards and the mahogany plywood rod racks under the gunwale boards, we know it can't be newer than 1988. It has a replacement welded bow rail (non-whaler), aftermarket pedestal seats up forward, an aftermarket windscreen, and this aftermarket seat. These things happen.
Whaler never offered a seat like this.
Tom W Clark posted 03-09-2002 08:39 PM ET (US)
Silly me. This is a 25' Outrage. How could I miss the slight "step" in the inside of the hull in the bow section that distinguishes it from a 22’?
Now the console makes me think it is not original. It is the newest style of Montauk console (note the angle of the dash area). The only 25' Outrage I have ever seen with this console is lhg's Whale Lure and he ordered it special. So I am guessing this is an early 1980's 25 with factory replacement "Montauk" console, and aftermarket RPS. All the 25 Outrage’s I have ever seen had the “super console” in one of its variations.
Pete, what's the story on this boat?
Dick posted 03-09-2002 08:48 PM ET (US)
Tom
You are right on, I just looked at it again and with that bow step it has to be a 25 and it is a Montauk console.
Would be nice to see some more pictures.
Tom W Clark posted 03-09-2002 09:10 PM ET (US)
Oops! Looks like this is Pete's boat. Apparently a 1989 model with Whaler Drive. Is the bow rail really factory? The angles don't look right.
Pete, what's the HIN of this boat?
I thought the teak gunwale boards were no longer available in 1989. If they were, it was an extra cost option by then.
peteinsf posted 03-09-2002 10:23 PM ET (US)
It’s my 1989, I’ll have to look up the hull number (I know it ends in “989”), I think I may have a mail message to Chuck Bennett in my sent items.
I don’t have much history; I know the boat was ordered on the cheap, single motor, small console, no options (unless the teak suggestion is correct). And it was used primarily as a dive boat. I would like to refit like kingfish, but keeping the storage would be nice if was not so ugly.
I have a lot of photos, any requests?
Tom W Clark posted 03-10-2002 03:33 AM ET (US)
Pete,
Actually Dick and I have taken a peek at your other photos. I hadn't realized this was, in fact, your boat. I probably wouldn't have made the comment about the RPS.
It is interesting to note that it was built in 1989 as a 1989 model. If the console came with the boat originally, I suspect you have a boat that was very deliberately configured. It is amazing to me to see that this boat is in many ways just like lhg’s Whale Lure.
It was ordered with the Montauk console. It is full transom, but with a Whaler Drive. It is a 1989 model. It has the extra cost option of teak gunwale boards.
It may be that the boat was originally sold by the dealer with this seat, perhaps custom upholstered with Whaler upholstery by the selling dealer, but it is not a Whaler RPS. The dealer probably added the folding pedestal seats up forward. The windscreen and canvas are obviously not Whaler items either.
In many ways this is my dream Outrage. I really like the console. I would do like lhg and install a Whaler RPS but I’m sure the Birdsall leaning post would be nice too.
I hope you take advantage of the full 450 hp this boat is entitled to by mounting a pair of 225’s. That would be a nice ride!
peteinsf posted 03-10-2002 01:25 PM ET (US)
Thanks Tom,
I was looking to be offended; I think the thing is ugly too. I just thought it was a Whaler option. As for the boat, I have wanted the exact model since 1983 when I first started shopping for my 15'. It was sort of a dream come true boat, in the back of my mind I always knew a 25' outrage was way out of my "life's budget range". This economic down turn has created some very strange used pricing. Can you imagine you local whaler dealer in 1989 speaking about a Revenge 25 Walk Around w/twin 200's "It's a real good deal, is if you keep up real nice you can sell it in 2001 for $25,000" ahh!
Well I home to meet the seattle guys when I come up later this month, you can give me the quick island tour!
Pete

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Author	Topic: What kind of PRS is this?
peteinsf	posted 03-07-2002 09:33 PM ET (US) I know, BIG. Does it have an offical name like "Storage RPS". It looks extra fat with the standard console. I am leaning towards Kingfish's setup with the leaning post and igloo, but I not sure what to call mine...
peteinsf	posted 03-07-2002 09:34 PM ET (US) This will help http://pete.esquared.net/BwConRear.jpg
Tom W Clark	posted 03-07-2002 09:34 PM ET (US) huh?
Tom W Clark	posted 03-07-2002 09:36 PM ET (US) Ah, the picture helps. Pete, that is known as the "lame aftermarket RPS", to be precise.
JBCornwell	posted 03-07-2002 11:06 PM ET (US) Ugh! What was it that Chester Riley used to say? Um... "What a revoltin' development this is!" Still, it looks a lot better than most aftermarket flippers. Red sky at night. . . JB :)
dscew	posted 03-07-2002 11:27 PM ET (US) Doesn't look that lame to me; even the ribbed vinyl looks pretty whaler-like. Looks comfy too!
Kelly	posted 03-08-2002 09:51 AM ET (US) Let's see, comfortable seating and more lockable storage. I would have to go out and use this boat the way the owner uses it before I gave it the "lame" designation. Kelly
peteinsf	posted 03-09-2002 07:25 PM ET (US) I was told it was factory, but I can't find it in my '80 options catalogs...
Dick	posted 03-09-2002 07:37 PM ET (US) When I took over as parts manager for the Sea Ray/Whaler dealer here in Seattle there were a bunch of old cushions in the warehouse. They had been inherited from the previous dealer. The vinyl pattern and piping look like the same as that RPS. Sold everything at giveaway prices including a bunch of unused Mills canvas. Sorry guys I didn't know about this site then.
Tom W Clark	posted 03-09-2002 08:13 PM ET (US) Pete, It is NOT factory. Yes, the upholstery looks like the upholstery used on Whalers in the late 1970's and 1980's. So what? Somebody is feeding you a line. Look at the picture. The "dock box" with a seat back looks like it is new, the boat does not. Maybe it was just reupholstered. If so, wouldn't it be reasonable to think they would choose fabric like that used on a Whaler of this vintage? It is readily available. This boat looks to be a 22' Outrage from 1986, 1987 or 1988 based on the console. If the console is a replacement, I'd say it was an early 1980's model. Given the teak gunwale boards and the mahogany plywood rod racks under the gunwale boards, we know it can't be newer than 1988. It has a replacement welded bow rail (non-whaler), aftermarket pedestal seats up forward, an aftermarket windscreen, and this aftermarket seat. These things happen. Whaler never offered a seat like this.
Tom W Clark	posted 03-09-2002 08:39 PM ET (US) Silly me. This is a 25' Outrage. How could I miss the slight "step" in the inside of the hull in the bow section that distinguishes it from a 22’? Now the console makes me think it is not original. It is the newest style of Montauk console (note the angle of the dash area). The only 25' Outrage I have ever seen with this console is lhg's Whale Lure and he ordered it special. So I am guessing this is an early 1980's 25 with factory replacement "Montauk" console, and aftermarket RPS. All the 25 Outrage’s I have ever seen had the “super console” in one of its variations. Pete, what's the story on this boat?
Dick	posted 03-09-2002 08:48 PM ET (US) Tom You are right on, I just looked at it again and with that bow step it has to be a 25 and it is a Montauk console. Would be nice to see some more pictures.
Tom W Clark	posted 03-09-2002 09:10 PM ET (US) Oops! Looks like this is Pete's boat. Apparently a 1989 model with Whaler Drive. Is the bow rail really factory? The angles don't look right. Pete, what's the HIN of this boat? I thought the teak gunwale boards were no longer available in 1989. If they were, it was an extra cost option by then.
peteinsf	posted 03-09-2002 10:23 PM ET (US) It’s my 1989, I’ll have to look up the hull number (I know it ends in “989”), I think I may have a mail message to Chuck Bennett in my sent items. I don’t have much history; I know the boat was ordered on the cheap, single motor, small console, no options (unless the teak suggestion is correct). And it was used primarily as a dive boat. I would like to refit like kingfish, but keeping the storage would be nice if was not so ugly. I have a lot of photos, any requests?
Tom W Clark	posted 03-10-2002 03:33 AM ET (US) Pete, Actually Dick and I have taken a peek at your other photos. I hadn't realized this was, in fact, your boat. I probably wouldn't have made the comment about the RPS. It is interesting to note that it was built in 1989 as a 1989 model. If the console came with the boat originally, I suspect you have a boat that was very deliberately configured. It is amazing to me to see that this boat is in many ways just like lhg’s Whale Lure. It was ordered with the Montauk console. It is full transom, but with a Whaler Drive. It is a 1989 model. It has the extra cost option of teak gunwale boards. It may be that the boat was originally sold by the dealer with this seat, perhaps custom upholstered with Whaler upholstery by the selling dealer, but it is not a Whaler RPS. The dealer probably added the folding pedestal seats up forward. The windscreen and canvas are obviously not Whaler items either. In many ways this is my dream Outrage. I really like the console. I would do like lhg and install a Whaler RPS but I’m sure the Birdsall leaning post would be nice too. I hope you take advantage of the full 450 hp this boat is entitled to by mounting a pair of 225’s. That would be a nice ride!
peteinsf	posted 03-10-2002 01:25 PM ET (US) Thanks Tom, I was looking to be offended; I think the thing is ugly too. I just thought it was a Whaler option. As for the boat, I have wanted the exact model since 1983 when I first started shopping for my 15'. It was sort of a dream come true boat, in the back of my mind I always knew a 25' outrage was way out of my "life's budget range". This economic down turn has created some very strange used pricing. Can you imagine you local whaler dealer in 1989 speaking about a Revenge 25 Walk Around w/twin 200's "It's a real good deal, is if you keep up real nice you can sell it in 2001 for $25,000" ahh! Well I home to meet the seattle guys when I come up later this month, you can give me the quick island tour! Pete