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tabasco posted 03-10-2002 06:41 PM ET (US)   Profile for tabasco   Send Email to tabasco  
I'm not a fisherman nor will i ever be but since I am buying a new Montauk with the fishing package (rod holders etc.) I would like to give it a try this summer. I will be doing most of boating on Long Island Sound, as well as boating on Lake Champlain in Vermont. Mostly Blues etc.on the sound.

So here is the question ........what is the best fishing rod to buy (what brand) what type of reel. Since I am a novice at this any input would be appreciated. Also what other equipment would I need to purchase?:

Will I need a club :-)

SpeedyWhaler posted 03-10-2002 07:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for SpeedyWhaler  Send Email to SpeedyWhaler     
Light spinning gear 10-20lb class should be fine, any brand will do (penn shamano ect) until you get serious about catching fish. If you are seeking blues you will need wire leaders riged with jigs, spoons, casting plugs,poppers what ever. The blues will be a blast to catch on light tackle if they are feeding the surface in your area. If thats the case you wont need bait or anything like that, artificals will be fine.If you are planing on trolling you could use a heavier rig, thats about it. good luck
James posted 03-10-2002 09:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for James  Send Email to James     
Tabasco,

I have fished nearby Raritan Bay since the mid-70's. We will probably be after the same type of fish (flounder, striper, fluke, blues and weaks) albeit in slightly different structure and tidal conditions. The previous post about a spinning rod is very good advice. When the fish are on a blitz, a spinning rod with lures is an excellent tool. I also do some fresh/salt fly fishing. It can be a lot of fun but you have to match your tackle to your spots.

The last couple of years I have been fishing with a friend on his Montauk. Day in and day out we do much better anchored or drifting with bait (live or fresh cut). For this, we use a light bait casting rod and a saltwater safe bait casting reel.

For the rod, let me suggest the St. Croix Avid in one of two sizes (1/4 -3/4 oz or 3/8 - 1 oz.), either weight range in 6-1/2 ft. length. I like the swollen handle of the St. Croix bait casters much better than the straight handle of the G. Loomis. I have both.

For a reel, I have settled on the Shimano Calcutta series. If you can afford it, the new Calcutta TE-300 has all the features that one could ask for fishing inshore.

I prefer Momoi mono or braid (Whiplash or Power Pro) with circle hooks. Good fishing!

James.

TightPenny posted 03-11-2002 10:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
Lots of fluke up your way, I am told.

The spinners are nice for the blues and weakfish, but give me a nice conventional for bottom fishing. I have a couple of Penn conventionals and Penn Rods for my bottom fishing. Nice dependable and affordable combinations.

NEVER SCARED posted 03-11-2002 01:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for NEVER SCARED    
G Loomis, Cal Star, Fenwick, Lamiglas, Shimano just to name a few. As a general rule, stay away from rods with a "candy apple" paint finish and only 4 guides. Also if you get a 2-piece rod, get the ones where the "male" end is the one with the handle! Cheap disposable rods use the opposite!

Never scared

whalerron posted 03-11-2002 01:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalerron  Send Email to whalerron     
Take a magnet with you and check the rod guides. If the guides are not magnetic, it has the potential to be a good rod. You don't want to fish saltwater with a rod that has steel line guides because they will rust very quickly with saltwater use. (The only caveat here is that some grades of stainless steel are somewhat magnetic. )

- Ron

hauptjm posted 03-11-2002 02:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
Interesting thread! I'm trying a new set-up this year for trolling. Targeting King Mackeral, Wahoo & Cobia.

My wife picked up two inexpensive Quantum Baitcasting reels for light offshore use. I've matched them up with 7 ft. Penn Slammer light (15-20) test rods. They're spooled with 20lb. test Stren Green.

These are very light rods that should make for some fun this summer.

tbyrne posted 03-11-2002 02:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for tbyrne    
Go to Rivers End Tackle in Old Saybrook, CT (860-388-2283) & they will set you up. It will cost a bit more than The Sports Authority, but you'll get good quality stuff that fits your needs. I'd recommend a 7 ft. St. Croix spin rod with a Penn or Shimano spin reel. Good luck - hope to see you out there!!
MilwaukeeWhaler posted 03-11-2002 03:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for MilwaukeeWhaler  Send Email to MilwaukeeWhaler     
St.Croix and Loomis are tops in rods. Remember the more eyelets the better. Look for ceramic guides. Shimano reels will last forever. The more ball bearings the better. Be carefull of hybrid fishing lines they may ruin your rod and reel. (spyder line etc.) They have a tendency to cut through your guides and the bail on your reel. Consult your local tackle dealer for line choices. Good luck and don't skimp. You will regret it the first time you have a fish that takes out 100 yards of line!
Tom Byrum posted 03-12-2002 01:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom Byrum  Send Email to Tom Byrum     
Try this place Charkbait.com He has mostly high quality gear with great prices. Match your rods with the line test you will be using. Seeker and Calstar make the best rods. Shimano Calcuttas,Penn,Accurate,and Pro Gear are the best reels. (all baitcasters) Probably Calcutta reels are the best bang for the buck in a non modified reel but my favorites are my Accurate modified Penns. Probably Seeker Classic glass rods are the best Bang for the buck in a rod.
mcahill2 posted 03-12-2002 03:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for mcahill2  Send Email to mcahill2     
ck out the shimano strdiac between a 4000 and 5000 there's not a better spinner out there this will last a life time if taken care of. for some just starting out a calcuta can be a bit hard to get used to the stradic is the way you will love the way it fells smooth as a baby a .
aubv posted 03-12-2002 08:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Tabasco,

Depending on where you fish on Long Island you may also want to try fishing for Bonito and False Albacore. Same tackle for blues will do for these fish. A suggestion for a good all around rod and real, Loomis SUR965 8' 15-30 lb. class med. rod and a Penn 5500 reel with 12-15 lb. test line. One piece(some may find a draw back). We fish with this set up from the boat or beach. It is light enough to cast for long periods of time, can be used to troll and you can get good distance on the beach. We also own light tackle and 11' foot beach rods. We fish about 45 days a year and this is the primary rod that we use. Any equivalent rod/reel should work. If you decide to do some serious bottom fishing/trolling then consider something in the 30-50 lb. Class rod like Penn 6'6" 3145rs and a Penn 4/0.
Can we quote you "I'm not a fisherman nor will I ever be" after you have caught a few fish, especially after your first Albie??

acseatsri posted 03-12-2002 11:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
>>>Shimano reels will last forever. The more ball bearings the better. Be carefull of hybrid fishing lines they may ruin your rod and reel. (spyder line etc.) They have a tendency to cut through your guides and the bail on your reel. Consult your local tackle dealer for line choices. Good luck and don't skimp. You will regret it the first time you have a fish that takes out 100 yards of line!<<<

This is false information. No reel will last if it isn't properly maintained. Rinse with fresh water after each use, clean and grease at least yearly. Spider line will NOT cut thru guides. I do long range fishing on the Excel, and EVERYONE has spectra on their reels. Stay away from ceramic guides. If they break, they will cut your line- and they break easily.

MilwaukeeWhaler posted 03-12-2002 12:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for MilwaukeeWhaler  Send Email to MilwaukeeWhaler     
You will cast farther with ceramic guides! Thats why every Sage,Loomis,Orvis rod uses ceramic. I have beat up my rods for 20 years and have never broke the ceramic. Just don't hook your lure on the guides. Shimano reels have fantastic drags and will need the least amount of attention. Rinsing your salt water gear goes without saying. Spyder line is for fisherpeople who don't know how to fight a fish. I have caught 20lb salmon on 4lb. If it is so great why dont they make a tippet? INFORMATION WAS NOT FALSE JUST ANOTHER OPINION. I have fished from Key West to Christmas Island to Costa Rica to Montana to Northern Ontario to the Great Lakes, Thats what I know. East Coast fishing may be different. Buy the most versitile gear you can.~ck
acseatsri posted 03-12-2002 01:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
The statement you made about spectra cutting thru guides IS false. I can attest to this after having many tuna on 50 lb spectra make multi-hundred yard runs over a period of 5 years now- no grooves in guides or elsewhere. We use spectra to increase line capacity on smaller reels. It also provides superior feel when bottom fishing in deep water. Downside is that because it doesn't stretch, you will pull more hooks if you fish it straight- we use a mono topshot for tuna, typically 25-100 yards (shock absorber).
Ceramic guides do provide a tiny bit less drag when casting, but I've had them break on several rods- at least with perfection guides, if they are crushed or stepped on or banged around, they'll bend but not break. All my rods are now built with perfection guides (or rollers)due to this reason.
What difference is it whether you catch a 20 lb salmon on 4 lb test mono or 4 lb test spectra? Almost all spectra breaks below rated test. All mono (other than IGFA rated) will break at or above rated test. IGFA line will break at or below stated test. The knot is typically the weakest link, especially if you tie carelessly or don't wet the line before cinching up.
My experience says you are somewhat correct in that Shimano's drags seem to be a little better protected against water intrusion than Penn- but for parts availability and ease of service, Penn wins hands down.
tabasco posted 03-12-2002 04:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
Thanks guys............Im going to the Hartford, Connecticut Fishing show this weekend. Im going to print out all the input that you all gave me and see if I can make a deal on two nice rods.
controller posted 03-12-2002 06:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for controller  Send Email to controller     
Tabasco,

What are the times and location of the CT fishing show?

I might head down to CT this weekend and stop buy the show.

tabasco posted 03-12-2002 10:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
go to ........www.NBC30.com ......and then to the fishing show print out a discount ticket and you save $1.00 off the admission. Not much but every dollar helps :-)
Saturday times are 10 to 8PM .........Sunday I think 10-5PM. The times are posted on the NBC30 site
tabasco posted 03-12-2002 10:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
Oh its at the Hartford Civic Center.
tabasco posted 03-12-2002 10:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
go to ........www.NBC30.com ......and then to the fishing show print out a discount ticket and you save $1.00 off the admission. Not much but every dollar helps :-)
Saturday times are 10 to 8PM .........Sunday I think 10-5PM. The times are posted on the NBC30 site
stinkyB posted 03-13-2002 11:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for stinkyB  Send Email to stinkyB     
Some good suggestions for quality product here, but some expensive ones too. Seriously guys for someone who's just starting does need a "sexy" brand such as Loomis & St. Croix (yes, they're VERY nice, but probably wouldn't be as appreciated by a newbie).
It depends how much loot you want to spend. For about $100 I'd reccomend a 7' ugly stick (lite or custom) w/ a shimano sedona reel. Penn ss series reels are solid as well.
12# mono would suit well for all-purpose. If you were to get 2 rods get one set-up for light-med tackle (snappers, fluke) and the other a little larger (15-20#) for large Blues & stripers. Good Luck & catch 'em up. Here are some good places for advice:

http://www.floridasportsman.com/cgi-local/Ultimate.cgi

http://www.stripersonline.com/

fly by night posted 03-13-2002 12:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for fly by night  Send Email to fly by night     
You can find no more enjoyable activity to do in your Montauk than to fly fish for stripers and blues that are breaking bait on the surface. In salt water, a 9 wt. fly rod with two different fly lines would be appropriate; one fast sinking line for deeper fish and in swifter current and an intermediate line for fish closer to the surface. I find my Montauk is particularly well suited to inshore salt water fly fishing.
Duncan posted 03-13-2002 02:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Duncan  Send Email to Duncan     
I fish both places. If you're not that into fishing, you won't appreciate the finer points of the more expensive rods and reels. Stick with a "package" rod/reel combo until you know you're into it.

LAKE CHAMPLAIN(seperate licenses needed for either side of NY/VT mid point-read the regs!).
A "light/med" rod & reel with 10 pound test.
Lures:
Jointed gold rapalas--larger size
#3 Blue fox spinners-silver
Silver Rapala "Rattlin' Rap"
Larger Johnson Silver Minow Spoon-troll slow for pike. Use and in-line swivel/leader.
First three will catch Large/smallmouth bass,Pike. Spinners also catch Trout but you'll need a downrigger after May 1.

LI SOUND:
The lake rod will work on "schoolies". Big fish will break your line. A 14 pound test rig is probably better with a bit beefier rod to toss the heavier lures. NOTE that salt water will quickly erode your reel if you don't rinse the salt spray off every time it is exposed. Use an open hose NOT a hig pressure nozzle.
Lures:
Talk to the local bait shop

JFM posted 03-13-2002 02:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for JFM  Send Email to JFM     
We use Penn "SS" spinners and matching rods in salt water. 7500SS for medium to large surf or 13' Sport fishing, and 4200SS for lighter fish same application. The only problem we have had with them is theft. We also use their "international" series for big game sport fish. Regards, Jay
Macman posted 03-13-2002 07:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Macman  Send Email to Macman     
Tabasco...you are getting some good advice from the board. For what it is worth, I am a Penn reel fan as well. I have a 5500, 7500, and just picked up a 8500. Personally, I would put my money in a reel, not the rod. With the Penn reels, go for a 6500 or up. They are sturdier than the graphite models. I have had good luck with Shimano rods that cost under$100, and I think that an Ugly Stik is less than that. Higher price does not always equal utility, especially for the casual user.
A previous poster mentioned fly -fishing. For stripers, that is far and away the most fun. That pursuit, however, is a whole new ballgame!
I hope that your new Montauk converts you to a fisherman... I can't imagine being out on the ocean without a fishing rod. I bet that you are in the same boat before the summer ends! Best of luck in the new Whaler!
MilwaukeeWhaler posted 03-13-2002 08:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for MilwaukeeWhaler  Send Email to MilwaukeeWhaler     
acseatsri, I appreciate your reply. I guess I only have had bad experiences with Spider. The line ruined a bail of mine by cutting a groove in it. I also have had the cover of the spider line fall apart after a long day of serious casting. That was a few years ago so it is probably time to sample there product again. As far as line choices, half the fun for me is always using lighter than normal line. I love my ultra light and one weight. It really forces you to concentrate on landing the fish and not just reeling it in. The only draw back is the fish are usually more tired and take a little more reviving. I have recently purchased a new Shimano bait caster for Northern Pike. I will take a look at this spectra and even try it for a season. I need all I can for the Pike in Wisconsin, so I'll give it a try. Tight Lines~ck

jameso posted 03-13-2002 09:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
My 03 cents, buy the best you can afford. If you want to fish then fish and not fool with tackle. I think the St. Croix rods at about a 100 to 125 are the best for the money in the world. Made in USA and better in most ways than Loomis or others,,Once again my opinion. Also a big fan of the PENN reels get a 710Z or other Z series. PENN has stopped making this workhorse although it is one of the best reel series they have built. Go to a reel repair shop and ask to buy a part (bail spring or handle) for XZXZ or NBNM foreign made reel, then ask for the same PENN part. Sorry to say newer PENNS are made in other parts of the world.
Once again my 03 cents, Thanks Jim Armstrong
tabasco posted 03-16-2002 07:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
Well thank you all for all the input........

I went to the fishing show today in Hartford,Ct. and purchased a 7 Ft. St Croix rod and a Shimano Calcutta reel. I am very satisified with my purchase.

When I started this I figured about $100 for the rod & reel, now close to $400 later i feel that I am very well equipt .

Thanks again everyone...........I'm learning

B Bear posted 03-16-2002 10:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
That's great!
I broke down and bought myself a new reel and rod
Now I am all over myself with my new reel and rod. Bass Pro Shops have a fishing sale on and I picked up a Bass Pro Extreme HM 54 graphite medium heavy 6 foot rod with 7 fuji creamatic concept guides, balance kit and a Shimano Stradic 4000 FG for $158.00, the reel alone is $114. They have the same combos in 6'6" med for $119.
I had just ordered almost the same set up over the internet for almost $100 more.
Time to send that order back!
Bear
acseatsri posted 03-17-2002 12:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
>>>acseatsri, I appreciate your reply. I guess I only have had bad experiences with Spider. The line ruined a bail of mine by cutting a groove in it. I also have had the cover of the spider line fall apart after a long day of serious casting. That was a few years ago so it is probably time to sample there product again. <<<

Your groove was probably the result of a frozen bearing, though I've never heard of grooves caused from spectra. Try PowerPro spectra. Spectra is a generic term. Stay away from the "fireline", as it's not the same as other superlines. I don't have any "coffeegrinder" reels other than a Penn 4200SS that I use for squid, nor do I think I'd use the spectra on a spinning reel. You'll find that a revolving spool reel will suit all needs better than a spinning reel. No line twist, plus no friction due to line changing direction. Drawback is that they take some practice to learn to cast without backlashing, but overall a much more all-purpose reel.

>>>As far as line choices, half the fun for me is always using lighter than normal line. I love my ultra light and one weight. It really forces you to concentrate on landing the fish and not just reeling it in. The only draw back is the fish are usually more tired and take a little more reviving. I have recently purchased a new Shimano bait caster for Northern Pike. I will take a look at this spectra and even try it for a season. I need all I can for the Pike in Wisconsin, so I'll give it a try. Tight Lines~ck<<<

Can't agree more! I catch tuna on 30 lb test mono backed up with 50# powerpro. Don't try too many on a Calcutta- drag is the size of a nickel and cooks pretty quickly! :)

B Bear posted 03-17-2002 09:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
acseatsri,
A quick question - Why stay away from fireline? I have used it in the past and it worked fine.
I know that you have to respool the spyder line each season.
Thanks Bear
acseatsri posted 03-17-2002 10:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
>>>A quick question - Why stay away from fireline? I have used it in the past and it worked fine.
I know that you have to respool the spyder line each season.<<<

EXACTLY! I've had the Powerpro and Tuf-line on my reels now for over 4 years. It's NOT affected by saltwater or UV rays. I use a mono topshot for tuna and other bigger game fish, straight or with a 20-30 foot mono leader for cod jigging. Spectra seems to be more abrasion resistant than fireline. Probably because fireline is NOT spectra (micro-dyneema, or gel-spun polypropylene, I believe) vs other true "spectra" lines.

PS- for serious tuna fishing, you should use a hollow sleeve of either bigger spectra or hollow dacron to make the connection between mono and spectra. An easier connection which is almost as secure is to do a 30-wrap bimini twist in the spectra and then use the double line to do a 30-40 wrap modified albright knot around the mono. Again, this is for SERIOUS anglers who like to take their equipment to the limit.

B Bear posted 03-17-2002 08:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
Thanks for the explination.
I will consider something else when I respool for next year. I have been hearing about this stuff called Mega Braid that is ultra thin and can come up to 80 lb. test.
Bear
acseatsri posted 03-17-2002 10:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
<<<I will consider something else when I respool for next year. I have been hearing about this stuff called Mega Braid that is ultra thin and can come up to 80 lb. test.>>>

The purpose of the spectra is to gain greater line capacity on smaller reels. Another benefit of the thinner line is less belly in the line when there is current, so you can get away with using less weight. As an example, I use 50 lb powerpro line (10 lb test mono equivalent) for jigging cod in 100-250 feet of water. I can usually use a 9 oz jig when everyone else is using 14 or 17 ounces.
Bigger isn't always better. Stick to the line class you've been using, or else go up one line class. Otherwise you're defeating the advantages of the thinner line. One more tip- fluorocarbon works! Use it for your leaders.

hardensheetmetal posted 03-17-2002 11:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Tobasco-

We are very much in the same boat (figuratively speeking of coarse) I am also not a fisherman, having only been two or three times in my life. Now, with the house and boat in CT, I feel it is definetly something I would like to become more familiar with. At some point we are going to have to meet up and maybe we can figure it out together.

Dan

B Bear posted 03-17-2002 11:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
Seriously acseatsri, you are doing some deep-sea fishing, which sounds like fun and very rewarding at the dinner table, must be something to bring in a Big fish. The only time I had done anything like that is when I was stationed at Deigo Gracica in the Indian Ocenan and a charter boat cost only $50 for a half day no matter how many in the party, that was the last time I ever caught a Tuna.

I am fishing in the Chesapeake Bay area where the average depth is 23 feet and some of the channels are around 50 feet with some holes going as deep as 125 feet. I have been using 20 lb test and have gone down to 14 lb this year to enjoy the light tackle fight. I just am out there to unwind, enjoy nature and get a thrill when I get a bite, and later have a good meal with some very fresh ingredients! Then life is very good.

I use a Penn Long Beach and a Penn 320 GTI for the troll and the deep bottom fishing with 40 lb mono, I know I should get a better rod. I am slowly moving up in my equipment, as I understand the art of fishing more and more.

I donated an inexpensive Shimano reel today at the BPS (to be matched to rods for the introduction of fishing to underprivileged kids) getting a voucher towards the purchase of another new reel which is much better and I will use for my kids or friends who will fish on the boat with me. At this point my wife does not understand why I have more than one rod and reel ......lol
Bear

Tom Byrum posted 03-18-2002 12:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom Byrum  Send Email to Tom Byrum     
Most fishing gear will work just fine as long as you dont catch a tuna. If you catch one you are in trouble. All of a sudden all your favorite poles and reels are junk. You start buying Penn Internationals and roller rods. Even the good stuff will have to be tricked out. One little 35 pound tuna can smoke a marginal reel in a hurry. And if you think that 35 pounder was tough wait till you get one over a 100. I have caught sturgeon over 7 feet long that cant fight as hard as a 35 pound tuna.
tabasco posted 03-18-2002 07:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
hardensheetmetal-
Hey Dan we have already met...........Remember last fall I looked at your 17ft montauk. Check my email address and it will ring a bell.

Hope to see you out there this summer and maybe with some friends who know what they are doing, we can figure out this fishing thing........... :-)

acseatsri posted 03-18-2002 04:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
<<<All of a sudden all your favorite poles and reels are junk. You start buying Penn Internationals and roller rods. Even the good stuff will have to be tricked out. One little 35 pound tuna can smoke a marginal reel in a hurry. And if you think that 35 pounder was tough wait till you get one over a 100. I have caught sturgeon over 7 feet long that cant fight as hard as a 35 pound tuna.>>>

Laughing my @ss off! I caught my first tuna about 12 years ago. Since then, 10 custom rods, most with rollers, and almost a like amount of internationals. Spend about 45 days a year at sea chasing them. If you want to keep peace in the household, don't EVER go tuna fishing!

MilwaukeeWhaler posted 03-18-2002 04:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for MilwaukeeWhaler  Send Email to MilwaukeeWhaler     
tuna vs tarpon--who wins?
hauptjm posted 03-18-2002 04:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
The guy that catches either!
acseatsri posted 03-18-2002 05:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for acseatsri  Send Email to acseatsri     
<<<tuna vs tarpon--who wins?>>>

Tuna is the stronger fish HANDS DOWN! After that I'd probably say yellowtail.

gvisko posted 03-18-2002 07:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for gvisko  Send Email to gvisko     
ugly stik tld 15 50lb test clear ande

i fished li sound for ten yrs before i moved
boat from mamaroneck to moriches all the
good fisherman used this rod and reel

anchor in 50' of water drop bunker head
to bottom with 2oz egg sinker and hold on
caught many stripers over 40lbs this way
end of may tru july good luck


gvisko

Dick posted 03-18-2002 07:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
I have found that rods & reels are like power tools.
Buy the best quality that you can afford.
You pretty well get what you pay for.
Regardless of how many you have there is allways going to be a reason to buy another one.
One boat is plenty but no one has enough rods, reels and power tools.
duckfish posted 03-19-2002 04:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for duckfish  Send Email to duckfish     
St. Croix, St. Croix, St. Croix...pound for pound they are the best rods on the market. Loomis have a better rod but they are a lot more. I have eight and one more on the way.(Way too many, but I can't help myself from purchasing them). If you get one you won't be disapointed.
duckfish

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