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finlander posted 03-21-2002 05:45 PM ET (US)
I have an 86 whaler and want to convert the back locker into a livewell and would like to know if anybody has any suggestions. Will be using it for live bait for cobia and possibly offshore fishing for tuna. The boat has a livewell pump already installed by the previous owner who used a pickle barrel behing the leaning post. He kept it and I feel it would take up too much space as I keep a 172 quart cooler in the space.
lhg posted 03-22-2002 02:35 AM ET (US)
My 1989 Outrage 25 came with the stern floor livewell areator system factory installed.
it is a simple system, with a pump on-off switch at the console, and no float switch in the system.
The pump is 500gph, and sits in the lowest center section. there is no thru hull drain from this well, so the pump also functions to remove water from this well. The tubing goes straight up the center back of the well to a tee. There are shut-off valves on each side of the horisontal tees. The starboard leg of the tee, up at the top of the well just under the fiberglass cover, is the the spray head fitting, while the port leg is the exhaust fitting, culminating at a thru-hull on the side of the boat. Closing the port valve and opening the starboard vlave activates the spray nozzle for continuous livewell circulation. Doing the opposite, pumps the water out the thru-hull.
This well works pretty well, but not perfectly, since there is no automatic fresh water input. So once an hour, I pump about half of the old water out and use my washdown hose to add new water. Water could also be replaced with a 5 gallon bucket. This will keep the bait alive all day long.
reelescape1 posted 03-22-2002 08:12 AM ET (US)
My 22' OR is similar, coming up from the pump to a tee, a ball valve on either side, to port is 1/2' pvc with a cap with 3/16 holes drilled pointing at the bottom, about 7 holes. To starboard it goes through hull to act as "bilge" pump. Close the port valve-open str. valve to pump water over, close str. valve-open port valve to aereate.
hauptjm posted 03-22-2002 10:02 AM ET (US)
lhg,
I'm curious. On my 18, under the port side hatch on the transom, is my live bait well. I assumed yours would have been set-up the same way. Of course, with the bait well set-up here, it's above waterline and does incorporate a drain. What's under this hatch on your model. In fact, how is yours set-up for all three. Mine is:
Starboard: battery, battery switch, VRO oil tank.
Center: Lift out fish box giving total access to stern well area.
Port: Live bait well. I use a simple 500gph Rule pump attached to a PVC riser.
lhg posted 03-22-2002 04:41 PM ET (US)
Jim: the 25 full transom is not set up that way, since there is a battery and oil tank under each corner hatch, for the twin engines. Same for the 20 & 22 Whaler Drives.
On the 22 and 25's, there is a stern floor well. That is what we're talking about. On the 22 with the extra fuel capacity, this well is cannibalized for the extra tank length.
finlander posted 03-25-2002 01:00 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the input. I am planning to run a 3/4 inch hose off the current livewell pump that is in the starboard battery box area into the rear well and put a drain in the thru hull which is located in the bottom to serve as a drain. A 3/4 hose fits nicely inside the thru hull located in the bottom of the well and I plan to put a 10-14 inch pvc pipe on it to raise the water level. The pump picks up while on plane of sitting in the water, so I will have continuous flow of water. Problem will be getting the 3/4 hose to the well and setting it up to have circulation. Any Ideas?
Finlander

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Author	Topic: livewell on 25 outrage
finlander	posted 03-21-2002 05:45 PM ET (US) I have an 86 whaler and want to convert the back locker into a livewell and would like to know if anybody has any suggestions. Will be using it for live bait for cobia and possibly offshore fishing for tuna. The boat has a livewell pump already installed by the previous owner who used a pickle barrel behing the leaning post. He kept it and I feel it would take up too much space as I keep a 172 quart cooler in the space.
lhg	posted 03-22-2002 02:35 AM ET (US) My 1989 Outrage 25 came with the stern floor livewell areator system factory installed. it is a simple system, with a pump on-off switch at the console, and no float switch in the system. The pump is 500gph, and sits in the lowest center section. there is no thru hull drain from this well, so the pump also functions to remove water from this well. The tubing goes straight up the center back of the well to a tee. There are shut-off valves on each side of the horisontal tees. The starboard leg of the tee, up at the top of the well just under the fiberglass cover, is the the spray head fitting, while the port leg is the exhaust fitting, culminating at a thru-hull on the side of the boat. Closing the port valve and opening the starboard vlave activates the spray nozzle for continuous livewell circulation. Doing the opposite, pumps the water out the thru-hull. This well works pretty well, but not perfectly, since there is no automatic fresh water input. So once an hour, I pump about half of the old water out and use my washdown hose to add new water. Water could also be replaced with a 5 gallon bucket. This will keep the bait alive all day long.
reelescape1	posted 03-22-2002 08:12 AM ET (US) My 22' OR is similar, coming up from the pump to a tee, a ball valve on either side, to port is 1/2' pvc with a cap with 3/16 holes drilled pointing at the bottom, about 7 holes. To starboard it goes through hull to act as "bilge" pump. Close the port valve-open str. valve to pump water over, close str. valve-open port valve to aereate.
hauptjm	posted 03-22-2002 10:02 AM ET (US) lhg, I'm curious. On my 18, under the port side hatch on the transom, is my live bait well. I assumed yours would have been set-up the same way. Of course, with the bait well set-up here, it's above waterline and does incorporate a drain. What's under this hatch on your model. In fact, how is yours set-up for all three. Mine is: Starboard: battery, battery switch, VRO oil tank. Center: Lift out fish box giving total access to stern well area. Port: Live bait well. I use a simple 500gph Rule pump attached to a PVC riser.
lhg	posted 03-22-2002 04:41 PM ET (US) Jim: the 25 full transom is not set up that way, since there is a battery and oil tank under each corner hatch, for the twin engines. Same for the 20 & 22 Whaler Drives. On the 22 and 25's, there is a stern floor well. That is what we're talking about. On the 22 with the extra fuel capacity, this well is cannibalized for the extra tank length.
finlander	posted 03-25-2002 01:00 PM ET (US) Thanks for the input. I am planning to run a 3/4 inch hose off the current livewell pump that is in the starboard battery box area into the rear well and put a drain in the thru hull which is located in the bottom to serve as a drain. A 3/4 hose fits nicely inside the thru hull located in the bottom of the well and I plan to put a 10-14 inch pvc pipe on it to raise the water level. The pump picks up while on plane of sitting in the water, so I will have continuous flow of water. Problem will be getting the 3/4 hose to the well and setting it up to have circulation. Any Ideas? Finlander