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schollis posted 05-19-2002 01:59 AM ET (US)   Profile for schollis   Send Email to schollis  
Trying to decide between the two.
Price around the same, Outrage is less.
Both have 4 stroke 130's.
PMUCCIOLO posted 05-19-2002 05:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for PMUCCIOLO    

The choice of powerplant calls the performance of both boats into question, but for different reasons: The Outrage may be adequately propelled by a 130HP engine, but not the heavyweight Honda. The static and dynamic trim of the boat will, most likely, be adversely affected, resulting in sluggish planing, poor drainage, and a low top end. The Outrage 18 is made to have an element of performance to it, and I suspect that a large, relatively heavy engine such as the Honda 130 will detract from that.

The Dauntless 22 will support the weight of the engine well. However, a substantial lack of performance will result by powering it with a 130HP Honda. I'd hate to see how that boat (or any boat) would plane with an engine with such a relatively high HP to weight ratio. A 200 or 225 two stroke would be more suitable. The boat will accelerate briskly, plane quickly, and offer respectable cruise and top speeds. Drainage should not be an issue with the 130, as the Dauntless 22 can handle a relatively heavy engine on its transom.

Perhaps proposing a lighter more powerful engine package may entice the dealer to be more flexible if he realizes that you're a serious buyer. No matter what engine package you decide upon, I'd suggest your making acceptance of the boat contingent upon your satisfaction with the boat's performance on a test ride.

Best of luck to you in your decision making.


aubv posted 05-19-2002 09:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     

The 22 Dauntless has a min HP rating of 135 HP, probably based on lighter 2 stroke engine. So 130 four stroke is out of the recommended range.

I don't have a 2000 cat to check specs for recommend HP for 18 OR but the 18' Dauntless has a min HP of 125. The OR's tend to be heavier so you maybe right on the lower edge of recommend HP.

I think they are both under powered. If the engines are mounted on the boats take them for a test ride. If not, I would be looking for more HP.

The Outrage series is more boat than the Dauntless in the same range but you are comparing an 18' to a 22'.

Giving more info on your planned use, trailer/slip , location, etc. would be helpful. Including your boating experience.

schollis posted 05-27-2002 12:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for schollis  Send Email to schollis     
18' Outrage with a 135 Optimax ?
22' Dauntless, 130 honda ?
20' Ventura ?
Fishing with family, kids on the lake ?
Trailering ?

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