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STEPHEN posted 07-28-2002 10:14 PM ET (US)
I gotta vent!This afternoon I pulled up to my local ramp to off load my son and pull the "new girl" outta the drink.The ramp is probably near 25 ft wide with dockage on both sides.Theres a guy on the left with his boat nearly on the trailer, so I go to the right.I tie off the bow and stern, put my kid out of the way and go get the trailer.No sooner then me flippin a UB tocome around the parking lot, this guy with a PWC slams his trailer down between my boat and the guy on the left.He backed so far down the ramp I swore he'd be pulling sea weed outta his tail gate.To make that rude act even more obnoxious he tries to shoot the needle and land this thing on the trailer and winds up hitting my boat.I freaked! He comes up to me and says " I nicked your boat". Well, I was hoping he did "nick" my boat so I could teach him some leason he would remember the next time he came to my town to act like an idiot.
I could not find any trace of anything that even resembled a nick and this guy bounced pretty hard off my portside.I couldnt even be mad at that.I calmed down quick and sent the guy on his way......with a warning of course.
Im very protective of my "new girl". This one is gonna be with me for a long time.
Steve
PS Thanks for allowing this vent, my wife didnt understand..........yet
Jay A posted 07-28-2002 10:36 PM ET (US)
You gotta calm down and don't act like a jerk because that guy is a jerk! And life is full of jerks. Let them be jerks and sooner or later they will get theirs. And the weekend brings them all out!Just be thankfull it was only a non-damage bump.At least he aknowledged he hit your "new girl"!And remmember,your "new girl" is not a person, replacable and repairable! You'll never know how crazy the next "jerk" will be! Thank God I have a slip!...Happy boating!
Jay A posted 07-28-2002 10:39 PM ET (US)
By the way, I forgot to ask, What's a Shoobie?
homey posted 07-28-2002 10:47 PM ET (US)
That sounds like a nightmare. What you should have done is call the marine police, local law enforcement and have the incident/accident documented. This jerk may have a history of jerkness.. Here in Maryland they would have slammed that fool with stiff fines, regardless of damage....
whalersman posted 07-29-2002 12:17 AM ET (US)
Jay A,
Don't feel too safe inside your slip. I have seen a poor boat operator run into another boat while it was "safe and sound" in it's own slip.
I guess anything can happen.
Stephen,
I'm glad you did not suffer any damage.
Regards,
Joe
compounder posted 07-29-2002 12:27 AM ET (US)
Wow Stephen, you sound like one tough dude!
Only gave him a warning, huh?
Morocco posted 07-29-2002 01:34 AM ET (US)
Another jerk on a PWC? Geez, I wonder why these poor guys get singled out by 'the authorities?' They're just out enjoying the god given right to be jerks!
Good think there weren't any orphans or nuns out swimming nearby!
Bigshot posted 07-29-2002 10:02 AM ET (US)
Shoobie's are tourists. The name comes from someone who wears shoes to the beach, etc.
thunderbay posted 07-29-2002 11:23 AM ET (US)
Ive seen it work the other way too, where damn pwc were blocking both sides of the ramp and a boater whom knows his stuff would load up right between them, making them look stupid, but that isnt the same as hitting your boat. Cant say what I would have done, cant hit him or you would be in jail, no damage, so no claim, oh heck, punch his truck and call it even!
TightPenny posted 07-29-2002 12:03 PM ET (US)
It's sorta a south Jersey term.
As you get further north they become bennies. Same derogatory connotation though, and the same degree of idiocy.
And it seems every darn one of them has a PWC. Good thing they don't like to go too far outside the inlet.
TightPenny posted 07-29-2002 12:03 PM ET (US)
It's sorta a south Jersey term.
As you get further north they become bennies. Same derogatory connotation though, and the same degree of idiocy.
And it seems every darn one of them has a PWC. Good thing they don't like to go too far outside the inlet.
Chesapeake posted 07-29-2002 02:58 PM ET (US)
Bigshot: I liked your explanation of the term - first time I had heard that one. As we were growing up in Philly, the term "Shoobie" was used just a little differently. It had a negative, kind of snobby connotation. Shoobie's were people that came to the beach - from somewhere else - for a single day. As a result, they were said to have brought their lunch to the beach with them in a shoe box - hence the shoobie.
Bigshot posted 07-29-2002 03:14 PM ET (US)
I forget what the correct definition of Bennie is. But they are synonomous. Basically the guy with the brown socks, camera around neck, goofy hat and hiwaiin shirt. Wife wears a moomoo and carries an umbrella & picnic basket. I grew up on the beach, if you rented, we hated you. If you daytripped, you were lucky to get out with your life:)
Bigshot posted 07-29-2002 03:16 PM ET (US)
PS they also had rafts......nobody used rafts but shoobies.....we all saw what happened to the kid on a raft in Jaws. You were local, you had alternative flotaion devices, usually something with a skeg and a leash. If not you body surfed. NOBODY uses rafts in the ocean.
Jay A posted 07-29-2002 06:35 PM ET (US)
whalersman: You got that right! However my location is out of the way from boat traffic inside a protected cove. The only waves are caused by landing seagulls and swans.But many years ago I was tied up at the end of a gas float. This 50' to 55' cruiser from N.Y. named "Hope" came along side of my 13' Sport and "popped" the Whaler right out of the water! It deposited it on top of the float! And this all happened with over 150' of open dock space in front of my boat! He never did tie-up at the dock,just "popped" and run! About an hour later I saw him tied up at another gas dock in the inner harbor.
Jerry Townsend posted 07-29-2002 10:30 PM ET (US)
And then, in this intermountain area and probably many others - we call them 'Tourons' - a cross between a tourist and a moron. Unquestionably - tourons are definitly inferior to another cross - the mule - which is smart, doesn't infringe on others, knows the difference between right and wrong - though can be a bit stubborn at times and has a mind of it's own! ---- Jerry/Idaho
Jay A posted 07-29-2002 11:20 PM ET (US)
We have "crows"! After the book and movie titled "The Perfect Storm" came out,so did the tourists. It's rare to walk on any street in Gloucester,Ma and not have someone stop and ask:"Where's the Crow's Nest"? The bar that was a main focal point in the story.And if any "crow" is rude when asking,I always tell them: "Go down this street and take a left at the George Wallace statue"!
scarlson posted 07-30-2002 08:49 AM ET (US)
Stephen, there are sea gods somewhere. Several years back I was trolling foe eyes 14 miles off Catawba Island in Lake Erie. Way out to get away dodos and fish in peace and quite. Here comes this idiot on a PWC and does a couple of circles around my Montauk screwing up the fishing. I later noticed him dead in the water screaming and waving wildly. I ignored him so he started to try and hand paddle towards me. I let him do that for a good half hour or so. Finally I was ready to go in so I motored over. He wanted a tow, and I obliged him.
I called a marine towing service out of Port Clinton that had the nickname of the "old pirate" because of his excessive charges. I heard from my marina operator that it probably cost the B#@tard $150. I've towed many a stranded boater in on many bodies of water for years, but not a single PWC. If he hadn't been in the shipping lanes I wouldn't have even called "the pirate".
BOB KEMMLER JR posted 07-30-2002 11:08 AM ET (US)
That reminds me of a dennis leary song.................it is nice when things work out like that.wonder if he went that far out again?
Buckda posted 08-02-2002 07:54 PM ET (US)
Funny how everybody's got a name for somebody else:
Yoopers (people from Michigan's Upper Peninsula) call people from downstate "Trolls" because they're from under "The" bridge (Mackinac). They call tourists "fudgies" because they eat so much Mackinac Island Fudge. People in Southwest Michigan call Chicagoan's FIPS...for ****ing Illinois People....which for me is bittersweet having grown up in Southwest Michigan and now living in Chi-town. (I resisted as long as I could...but I've officially become a FIP.) Wisconsinites are Cheese-heads, and to complete the great "lake Michigan circle tour," those from the UP of Michigan are Yoopers again. How do ya like dat, eh?
ChocLabWhaler posted 08-02-2002 11:17 PM ET (US)
Jay A, Now that I'm a transplant in DC, I remember Cape Ann with great memories. We used to give the "crow's" perfect directions to "the Nest". We'd see if they got out alive. The movie really didn't do that place justice. And the "popper" used to happen alot in Manchester harbor. It's amazing how many lines you can make with a black rub rail along side a big trawler or Hatteras. We were more cruel when we were in saiboats "learning" to sail. I miss those days....
CLW
andiamo posted 08-03-2002 12:19 AM ET (US)
Choclab:
Spending my summers as a kid in Sakonnet (the place not the Whaler)Rhode Island I have memories of learning to sail and being quite cruel to the people who had come up from Fall River or Providence for the day to fish from the end of the break water. As we came sailing in in out Lasers and 420's reaching across Naragansat Bay we would get going as fast as we could and come surfing in on a wave as close to the outside of the breakwall as possible and see how many lines we could snag on our dagger boards. One usuall heard the zip of the line being spooled off followed by several explatives. We were bad having fun at someone elses expense (who probably could not afford it). I hope my kids are more respectful than I was.
Bigshot posted 08-05-2002 01:35 PM ET (US)
Hell, We used to swamp the rental boats while waterskiing. What could the do with a 6hp and no VHF or cell phone(20 years ago)?
Chap posted 08-05-2002 01:54 PM ET (US)
BS, I thought the Bennies came to the beach via the Ben Franklin Bridge.
Here ya go: They have Benny incidents:
www.gohomebennies.com
I know it's not a sophisticated LBI site but.......
Chap
Chesapeake posted 08-05-2002 04:37 PM ET (US)
Does the nest exist or not?
Friend of mine, who was orginally from Aurora, Illinois tells of people constantly coming through Aurora looking for "Stan Mikita's Donut Shop" from Wayne's World. It does not exist, but often they directions they receive get them a long visit to Rockford.
andiamo posted 08-05-2002 04:45 PM ET (US)
I think you have to be a Canadian to understand "Stan Mikita's Donut Shop" reference. In Canada the number two (after McD's) fast food outlet is Tim Horton's Donuts. Tim Horton used to play for the Toronto Maple Leafs. In making Wayne's world and recreating his suburban Canadian youth Mike Myers had to Americanize his cultural references. If memory serves Stan Mikita played for the Chicago Black Hawks.
Chesapeake posted 08-05-2002 05:39 PM ET (US)
Exactly. Number 21 in your program, Number 1 in your hearts... Chicago Black Hawk Stan Mikita
whalebone posted 08-05-2002 07:15 PM ET (US)
You got off pretty easy,my buddy was getting gas one day with his Parker he just got and this lady comes by to get gas and floors her boat right into his. He receives a foot long hole in the side of his boat. She was drunk but immediately called a state cop she knew, who showed up before the locals. Some wheeling and dealing later, she walks with no ticket but,has to pay for the repairs. Thing is, my buddy did his own detective work and finds out this lady has two priors on boats. P.S. a SHOOBIE is a tourist, old days daytrippers brought their lunches on the train in shoeboxes.
waterguy posted 08-05-2002 09:42 PM ET (US)
Who cares. What's your Whaler question?
Jay A posted 08-05-2002 10:54 PM ET (US)
Since some of you mentioned hockey, I alway's thought it would be funny to see Bobby Orr,Bobby Hull and Jim Dorey play with the Hartford Whalers! You can't have a dorey without a hull and oar! By the way, I believe Dorey did play for the New England Whalers when they played in Boston.
andiamo posted 08-05-2002 11:53 PM ET (US)
Jay thanks for making it relevant for waterguy :)
While I know I am new to this forum and there is an ongoing debate about whether or not there should be posts about non-whaler subjects this thread has brought back some fun childhood memories and I for one appreciate the community aspect of the chat.
RMS posted 08-06-2002 11:17 AM ET (US)
My understanding of BENNY is that it comes from an acronym of Bayonne, Edison, Newark, New York.
whaleryo posted 08-06-2002 11:43 AM ET (US)
Maybe it's just me but...
How dare these people (Shoobies, Bennies, etc.) show us that they think that the place where we live is a nice place to visit. We'll teach them that they'd better think twice before spending their money on our local economy...What nerve they have!

Jay A posted 08-06-2002 06:01 PM ET (US)
andiamo: I hope you noticed I got the word "Whaler's" in there!
Bigshot posted 08-07-2002 10:13 AM ET (US)
I like the shoebox theory. They used to have a railroad on LBI. I have heard both the Bayonne, edison, etc and the Ben franklin and from where I lived I would say Ben Franklin. We get tons of PA people because the idiots moved to a state with no shore and have to mooch off us:) Most don't mind the North Jersey and NY crowd but despise the Philthadelphians. Don't ask me, a tourist is a tourist and they all should be shot if they stay longer than a weekend.
Chesapeake posted 08-07-2002 10:28 AM ET (US)
But Bigshot -- what would you and the rest of the South Jersey crowd do if you couldn't get a cheesesteak or a Tastycake?
Bob
Bigshot posted 08-07-2002 01:36 PM ET (US)
Did not say I despise them. My friend on LBI owns Jim's on south street. I know where to get a steak when I need one:)
bocadrew posted 08-07-2002 01:57 PM ET (US)
I take it none of you make a living off of tourists' dollars. Niether do I, but still am grateful for their sales tax contributions. Aren't we all tourists at some point in our lives?
Bigshot posted 08-07-2002 03:39 PM ET (US)
NEVER!
I'm like Inspector Cluseau. I always fit in.....I think:)
STEPHEN posted 08-07-2002 08:18 PM ET (US)
Lets face it, people on vacation go thru their week off with blinders on.Locals are just living their lives trying to avoid these people who seem to have little or no regard for others because "its their time in the sun!" They get shit faced and piss on peoples lawns, they steel bikes to ride home from the bars,they yell at the top of their lungs after "last call" in the streets at 3 a.m. and they drive their cars like their back in NYC.OK they spend money in our town but nothing is better then seeing them go!
LBI in september is key, thats when the real party starts.
Big Shot I'd like to by you a drink at the Hudson House if you're ever in town ....let me know.
Bigshot posted 08-08-2002 09:26 AM ET (US)
A Bud at the Hud! Have not been there in years....is it still standing? All will be gone when they rebuild that joint. Bad enough what they did to Buckalews. Times change I guess. My favorite craphole is The P-hole AKA Bakers Porthole in Ship Bottom. I may be up in October, will let you know!

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Author	Topic: Shoobies at the public ramp
STEPHEN	posted 07-28-2002 10:14 PM ET (US) I gotta vent!This afternoon I pulled up to my local ramp to off load my son and pull the "new girl" outta the drink.The ramp is probably near 25 ft wide with dockage on both sides.Theres a guy on the left with his boat nearly on the trailer, so I go to the right.I tie off the bow and stern, put my kid out of the way and go get the trailer.No sooner then me flippin a UB tocome around the parking lot, this guy with a PWC slams his trailer down between my boat and the guy on the left.He backed so far down the ramp I swore he'd be pulling sea weed outta his tail gate.To make that rude act even more obnoxious he tries to shoot the needle and land this thing on the trailer and winds up hitting my boat.I freaked! He comes up to me and says " I nicked your boat". Well, I was hoping he did "nick" my boat so I could teach him some leason he would remember the next time he came to my town to act like an idiot. I could not find any trace of anything that even resembled a nick and this guy bounced pretty hard off my portside.I couldnt even be mad at that.I calmed down quick and sent the guy on his way......with a warning of course. Im very protective of my "new girl". This one is gonna be with me for a long time. Steve PS Thanks for allowing this vent, my wife didnt understand..........yet
Jay A	posted 07-28-2002 10:36 PM ET (US) You gotta calm down and don't act like a jerk because that guy is a jerk! And life is full of jerks. Let them be jerks and sooner or later they will get theirs. And the weekend brings them all out!Just be thankfull it was only a non-damage bump.At least he aknowledged he hit your "new girl"!And remmember,your "new girl" is not a person, replacable and repairable! You'll never know how crazy the next "jerk" will be! Thank God I have a slip!...Happy boating!
Jay A	posted 07-28-2002 10:39 PM ET (US) By the way, I forgot to ask, What's a Shoobie?
homey	posted 07-28-2002 10:47 PM ET (US) That sounds like a nightmare. What you should have done is call the marine police, local law enforcement and have the incident/accident documented. This jerk may have a history of jerkness.. Here in Maryland they would have slammed that fool with stiff fines, regardless of damage....
whalersman	posted 07-29-2002 12:17 AM ET (US) Jay A, Don't feel too safe inside your slip. I have seen a poor boat operator run into another boat while it was "safe and sound" in it's own slip. I guess anything can happen. Stephen, I'm glad you did not suffer any damage. Regards, Joe
compounder	posted 07-29-2002 12:27 AM ET (US) Wow Stephen, you sound like one tough dude! Only gave him a warning, huh?
Morocco	posted 07-29-2002 01:34 AM ET (US) Another jerk on a PWC? Geez, I wonder why these poor guys get singled out by 'the authorities?' They're just out enjoying the god given right to be jerks! Good think there weren't any orphans or nuns out swimming nearby!
Bigshot	posted 07-29-2002 10:02 AM ET (US) Shoobie's are tourists. The name comes from someone who wears shoes to the beach, etc.
thunderbay	posted 07-29-2002 11:23 AM ET (US) Ive seen it work the other way too, where damn pwc were blocking both sides of the ramp and a boater whom knows his stuff would load up right between them, making them look stupid, but that isnt the same as hitting your boat. Cant say what I would have done, cant hit him or you would be in jail, no damage, so no claim, oh heck, punch his truck and call it even!
TightPenny	posted 07-29-2002 12:03 PM ET (US) It's sorta a south Jersey term. As you get further north they become bennies. Same derogatory connotation though, and the same degree of idiocy. And it seems every darn one of them has a PWC. Good thing they don't like to go too far outside the inlet.
TightPenny	posted 07-29-2002 12:03 PM ET (US) It's sorta a south Jersey term. As you get further north they become bennies. Same derogatory connotation though, and the same degree of idiocy. And it seems every darn one of them has a PWC. Good thing they don't like to go too far outside the inlet.
Chesapeake	posted 07-29-2002 02:58 PM ET (US) Bigshot: I liked your explanation of the term - first time I had heard that one. As we were growing up in Philly, the term "Shoobie" was used just a little differently. It had a negative, kind of snobby connotation. Shoobie's were people that came to the beach - from somewhere else - for a single day. As a result, they were said to have brought their lunch to the beach with them in a shoe box - hence the shoobie.
Bigshot	posted 07-29-2002 03:14 PM ET (US) I forget what the correct definition of Bennie is. But they are synonomous. Basically the guy with the brown socks, camera around neck, goofy hat and hiwaiin shirt. Wife wears a moomoo and carries an umbrella & picnic basket. I grew up on the beach, if you rented, we hated you. If you daytripped, you were lucky to get out with your life:)
Bigshot	posted 07-29-2002 03:16 PM ET (US) PS they also had rafts......nobody used rafts but shoobies.....we all saw what happened to the kid on a raft in Jaws. You were local, you had alternative flotaion devices, usually something with a skeg and a leash. If not you body surfed. NOBODY uses rafts in the ocean.
Jay A	posted 07-29-2002 06:35 PM ET (US) whalersman: You got that right! However my location is out of the way from boat traffic inside a protected cove. The only waves are caused by landing seagulls and swans.But many years ago I was tied up at the end of a gas float. This 50' to 55' cruiser from N.Y. named "Hope" came along side of my 13' Sport and "popped" the Whaler right out of the water! It deposited it on top of the float! And this all happened with over 150' of open dock space in front of my boat! He never did tie-up at the dock,just "popped" and run! About an hour later I saw him tied up at another gas dock in the inner harbor.
Jerry Townsend	posted 07-29-2002 10:30 PM ET (US) And then, in this intermountain area and probably many others - we call them 'Tourons' - a cross between a tourist and a moron. Unquestionably - tourons are definitly inferior to another cross - the mule - which is smart, doesn't infringe on others, knows the difference between right and wrong - though can be a bit stubborn at times and has a mind of it's own! ---- Jerry/Idaho
Jay A	posted 07-29-2002 11:20 PM ET (US) We have "crows"! After the book and movie titled "The Perfect Storm" came out,so did the tourists. It's rare to walk on any street in Gloucester,Ma and not have someone stop and ask:"Where's the Crow's Nest"? The bar that was a main focal point in the story.And if any "crow" is rude when asking,I always tell them: "Go down this street and take a left at the George Wallace statue"!
scarlson	posted 07-30-2002 08:49 AM ET (US) Stephen, there are sea gods somewhere. Several years back I was trolling foe eyes 14 miles off Catawba Island in Lake Erie. Way out to get away dodos and fish in peace and quite. Here comes this idiot on a PWC and does a couple of circles around my Montauk screwing up the fishing. I later noticed him dead in the water screaming and waving wildly. I ignored him so he started to try and hand paddle towards me. I let him do that for a good half hour or so. Finally I was ready to go in so I motored over. He wanted a tow, and I obliged him. I called a marine towing service out of Port Clinton that had the nickname of the "old pirate" because of his excessive charges. I heard from my marina operator that it probably cost the B#@tard $150. I've towed many a stranded boater in on many bodies of water for years, but not a single PWC. If he hadn't been in the shipping lanes I wouldn't have even called "the pirate".
BOB KEMMLER JR	posted 07-30-2002 11:08 AM ET (US) That reminds me of a dennis leary song.................it is nice when things work out like that.wonder if he went that far out again?
Buckda	posted 08-02-2002 07:54 PM ET (US) Funny how everybody's got a name for somebody else: Yoopers (people from Michigan's Upper Peninsula) call people from downstate "Trolls" because they're from under "The" bridge (Mackinac). They call tourists "fudgies" because they eat so much Mackinac Island Fudge. People in Southwest Michigan call Chicagoan's FIPS...for ****ing Illinois People....which for me is bittersweet having grown up in Southwest Michigan and now living in Chi-town. (I resisted as long as I could...but I've officially become a FIP.) Wisconsinites are Cheese-heads, and to complete the great "lake Michigan circle tour," those from the UP of Michigan are Yoopers again. How do ya like dat, eh?
ChocLabWhaler	posted 08-02-2002 11:17 PM ET (US) Jay A, Now that I'm a transplant in DC, I remember Cape Ann with great memories. We used to give the "crow's" perfect directions to "the Nest". We'd see if they got out alive. The movie really didn't do that place justice. And the "popper" used to happen alot in Manchester harbor. It's amazing how many lines you can make with a black rub rail along side a big trawler or Hatteras. We were more cruel when we were in saiboats "learning" to sail. I miss those days.... CLW
andiamo	posted 08-03-2002 12:19 AM ET (US) Choclab: Spending my summers as a kid in Sakonnet (the place not the Whaler)Rhode Island I have memories of learning to sail and being quite cruel to the people who had come up from Fall River or Providence for the day to fish from the end of the break water. As we came sailing in in out Lasers and 420's reaching across Naragansat Bay we would get going as fast as we could and come surfing in on a wave as close to the outside of the breakwall as possible and see how many lines we could snag on our dagger boards. One usuall heard the zip of the line being spooled off followed by several explatives. We were bad having fun at someone elses expense (who probably could not afford it). I hope my kids are more respectful than I was.
Bigshot	posted 08-05-2002 01:35 PM ET (US) Hell, We used to swamp the rental boats while waterskiing. What could the do with a 6hp and no VHF or cell phone(20 years ago)?
Chap	posted 08-05-2002 01:54 PM ET (US) BS, I thought the Bennies came to the beach via the Ben Franklin Bridge. Here ya go: They have Benny incidents: www.gohomebennies.com I know it's not a sophisticated LBI site but....... Chap
Chesapeake	posted 08-05-2002 04:37 PM ET (US) Does the nest exist or not? Friend of mine, who was orginally from Aurora, Illinois tells of people constantly coming through Aurora looking for "Stan Mikita's Donut Shop" from Wayne's World. It does not exist, but often they directions they receive get them a long visit to Rockford.
andiamo	posted 08-05-2002 04:45 PM ET (US) I think you have to be a Canadian to understand "Stan Mikita's Donut Shop" reference. In Canada the number two (after McD's) fast food outlet is Tim Horton's Donuts. Tim Horton used to play for the Toronto Maple Leafs. In making Wayne's world and recreating his suburban Canadian youth Mike Myers had to Americanize his cultural references. If memory serves Stan Mikita played for the Chicago Black Hawks.
Chesapeake	posted 08-05-2002 05:39 PM ET (US) Exactly. Number 21 in your program, Number 1 in your hearts... Chicago Black Hawk Stan Mikita
whalebone	posted 08-05-2002 07:15 PM ET (US) You got off pretty easy,my buddy was getting gas one day with his Parker he just got and this lady comes by to get gas and floors her boat right into his. He receives a foot long hole in the side of his boat. She was drunk but immediately called a state cop she knew, who showed up before the locals. Some wheeling and dealing later, she walks with no ticket but,has to pay for the repairs. Thing is, my buddy did his own detective work and finds out this lady has two priors on boats. P.S. a SHOOBIE is a tourist, old days daytrippers brought their lunches on the train in shoeboxes.
waterguy	posted 08-05-2002 09:42 PM ET (US) Who cares. What's your Whaler question?
Jay A	posted 08-05-2002 10:54 PM ET (US) Since some of you mentioned hockey, I alway's thought it would be funny to see Bobby Orr,Bobby Hull and Jim Dorey play with the Hartford Whalers! You can't have a dorey without a hull and oar! By the way, I believe Dorey did play for the New England Whalers when they played in Boston.
andiamo	posted 08-05-2002 11:53 PM ET (US) Jay thanks for making it relevant for waterguy :) While I know I am new to this forum and there is an ongoing debate about whether or not there should be posts about non-whaler subjects this thread has brought back some fun childhood memories and I for one appreciate the community aspect of the chat.
RMS	posted 08-06-2002 11:17 AM ET (US) My understanding of BENNY is that it comes from an acronym of Bayonne, Edison, Newark, New York.
whaleryo	posted 08-06-2002 11:43 AM ET (US) Maybe it's just me but... How dare these people (Shoobies, Bennies, etc.) show us that they think that the place where we live is a nice place to visit. We'll teach them that they'd better think twice before spending their money on our local economy...What nerve they have!
Jay A	posted 08-06-2002 06:01 PM ET (US) andiamo: I hope you noticed I got the word "Whaler's" in there!
Bigshot	posted 08-07-2002 10:13 AM ET (US) I like the shoebox theory. They used to have a railroad on LBI. I have heard both the Bayonne, edison, etc and the Ben franklin and from where I lived I would say Ben Franklin. We get tons of PA people because the idiots moved to a state with no shore and have to mooch off us:) Most don't mind the North Jersey and NY crowd but despise the Philthadelphians. Don't ask me, a tourist is a tourist and they all should be shot if they stay longer than a weekend.
Chesapeake	posted 08-07-2002 10:28 AM ET (US) But Bigshot -- what would you and the rest of the South Jersey crowd do if you couldn't get a cheesesteak or a Tastycake? Bob
Bigshot	posted 08-07-2002 01:36 PM ET (US) Did not say I despise them. My friend on LBI owns Jim's on south street. I know where to get a steak when I need one:)
bocadrew	posted 08-07-2002 01:57 PM ET (US) I take it none of you make a living off of tourists' dollars. Niether do I, but still am grateful for their sales tax contributions. Aren't we all tourists at some point in our lives?
Bigshot	posted 08-07-2002 03:39 PM ET (US) NEVER! I'm like Inspector Cluseau. I always fit in.....I think:)
STEPHEN	posted 08-07-2002 08:18 PM ET (US) Lets face it, people on vacation go thru their week off with blinders on.Locals are just living their lives trying to avoid these people who seem to have little or no regard for others because "its their time in the sun!" They get shit faced and piss on peoples lawns, they steel bikes to ride home from the bars,they yell at the top of their lungs after "last call" in the streets at 3 a.m. and they drive their cars like their back in NYC.OK they spend money in our town but nothing is better then seeing them go! LBI in september is key, thats when the real party starts. Big Shot I'd like to by you a drink at the Hudson House if you're ever in town ....let me know.
Bigshot	posted 08-08-2002 09:26 AM ET (US) A Bud at the Hud! Have not been there in years....is it still standing? All will be gone when they rebuild that joint. Bad enough what they did to Buckalews. Times change I guess. My favorite craphole is The P-hole AKA Bakers Porthole in Ship Bottom. I may be up in October, will let you know!