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mikeorton posted 08-27-2002 11:04 PM ET (US)
Hi I have what is I am sure a dumb question, but it is one I need answered, I have never owned a boat before so forgive my foolishness.
I just recieved a 17' Larson hull with a 1968 85hp Johnson motor, I dont know if it runs, as I have a set of water ears for it, but am not sure where the water needs to go to on the outboard motor on one side there is a screen about 1/4" x 2" long is this where the water has to run into before it is safe to try the motor, or is it the little round hole lower down that the water needs to run into? I told you it was a dumb question, but one I would appreciate if some one could answer for me...
Thanks in advance,
Mike
Swellmonster posted 08-27-2002 11:09 PM ET (US)
Mike, you will get good luck w/boatsetup.com.
What kind of whaler do you have, or gunna get?
mikeorton posted 08-27-2002 11:24 PM ET (US)
I am not even sure what a whaler is, some kind of fishing boat would be my guess, My Boat is a 17' Larson from 1971 I got it in trade for building a ecommerce site called www.rampageexpress.com for a muffler and exhaust guy he only owed me $450 so I Think I got a pretty good deal. He even gave me a fish finder that was almost new, and all kinds of other stuff, But I am just now learning about boats... slowly learning>>> LOL
cjd posted 08-28-2002 09:37 AM ET (US)
You need to clamp the muffs over the screened portion. The screen actually acts as a filter for the sea water that is pulled in to cool the engine.
Do not turn the hose on anywhere near full blast.
I'm not sure how you found this site, but it is mostly populated by folks who own Boston Whalers.
There are plenty of other sites out there where you might get better responses to your questions.
Of course maybe the more knowledgable folks here will jump in and help you, maybe even give you pointers on other things to look for as you jump in to boating.
Come one guys, what do you say??
Try Thehulltruth.com, www.floridasportsman.com, or http://boatered.com/.
And don't be afraid to take a Coast Guard or power squadren course. great stuff, and it is so much more fun when you are confident with what you are doing
jimh posted 08-28-2002 10:39 AM ET (US)
Here is some advice: sell the Larson and get a Whaler.
MilwaukeeWhaler posted 08-28-2002 10:45 AM ET (US)
I am not sure what a Larson is? Some kind of raft or something. Buy a Whaler!!!
hooter posted 08-28-2002 11:25 AM ET (US)
www.larsonboat.com
Looks like mebby dey's made by a bowlin'-bawl manufacturer. Bet dey SINKS like a bowlin bawl, you take a wave wrong or pull da plug.
Get a Waler!
keltonkrew posted 08-28-2002 11:33 AM ET (US)
go to www.iboats.com and in the upper right hand corner is a button for boating foums.
Lots of good help there, especially with engines.
Monnas Rock posted 08-28-2002 12:10 PM ET (US)
Mikeorton,
Monnas Rock posted 08-28-2002 12:25 PM ET (US)
Lets try this again..
Mike Orton, Don't pay any attention to those of us with nothing but Whalers between our ears. The real point is, Welcome to boating. You may be embarking on the most enjoyable, relaxing hobby of your life. Enjoy your Larson, get all the boating education and experiance you can and as you learn you will discover the difference between boats. We advocate Boston Whalers for as many reasons as there are Whaler owners, but above all for their safety. Once again, enjoy and as soon as we finish ribbing you over your Larson, I'm sure most of us would be happy to answer any questions we can. One word of caution, Boston Whalers are addictive. WE WILL CONVERT YOU!
mikeorton posted 08-28-2002 03:47 PM ET (US)
well, I am ready to be converted.... well all of me except my wallet... LOL Thanks for all those who helped out, with other info,
Mike
Dunk posted 08-28-2002 05:47 PM ET (US)
You can't use muff's on that engine to run it out of the water. If you look at the tube like skeg that hangs down behind the prop you'll see it has an opening with screen in it. This is the main water intake for the engine. There' is an attachment made to clamp on to this skeg, but it's going to be tough to find. You be better off putting some kind of tub under it or backing it down a boat ramp.
Chances are she's going to need a water pump..
Also that engine has battery fired CD ignition system. It was one of the first powerpacs ever used on a outboard engine. Before you invest any money in the engine you should make sure it has spark. Remove the plugs but leave one in the wire boot hanging loose. Crank the engine while grounding the plug to the engine head. If you have no spark chances are the pac is shot. A new pac is about 325 bucks.
Another problem area on that engine is the split gearcase. If she looks like she's leaking lube around the horizonal seal then chances are she will pick up water once in the water. If the engine is an Electromatic model with single lever control and you have shifting problems you scrap the engine because the gearcases are about impossible to find.
Any in depth questions on that engine should be asked on the www.aomci.org board. It's a antique outboard club. Go the "ask a member" section. There are guy's there who specialize in those old V4's.
As long as the deck, transom or the stringers are not rotted out of that Larson it's a good boat.

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Author	Topic: A Dumb ?????
mikeorton	posted 08-27-2002 11:04 PM ET (US) Hi I have what is I am sure a dumb question, but it is one I need answered, I have never owned a boat before so forgive my foolishness. I just recieved a 17' Larson hull with a 1968 85hp Johnson motor, I dont know if it runs, as I have a set of water ears for it, but am not sure where the water needs to go to on the outboard motor on one side there is a screen about 1/4" x 2" long is this where the water has to run into before it is safe to try the motor, or is it the little round hole lower down that the water needs to run into? I told you it was a dumb question, but one I would appreciate if some one could answer for me... Thanks in advance, Mike
Swellmonster	posted 08-27-2002 11:09 PM ET (US) Mike, you will get good luck w/boatsetup.com. What kind of whaler do you have, or gunna get?
mikeorton	posted 08-27-2002 11:24 PM ET (US) I am not even sure what a whaler is, some kind of fishing boat would be my guess, My Boat is a 17' Larson from 1971 I got it in trade for building a ecommerce site called www.rampageexpress.com for a muffler and exhaust guy he only owed me $450 so I Think I got a pretty good deal. He even gave me a fish finder that was almost new, and all kinds of other stuff, But I am just now learning about boats... slowly learning>>> LOL
cjd	posted 08-28-2002 09:37 AM ET (US) You need to clamp the muffs over the screened portion. The screen actually acts as a filter for the sea water that is pulled in to cool the engine. Do not turn the hose on anywhere near full blast. I'm not sure how you found this site, but it is mostly populated by folks who own Boston Whalers. There are plenty of other sites out there where you might get better responses to your questions. Of course maybe the more knowledgable folks here will jump in and help you, maybe even give you pointers on other things to look for as you jump in to boating. Come one guys, what do you say?? Try Thehulltruth.com, www.floridasportsman.com, or http://boatered.com/. And don't be afraid to take a Coast Guard or power squadren course. great stuff, and it is so much more fun when you are confident with what you are doing
jimh	posted 08-28-2002 10:39 AM ET (US) Here is some advice: sell the Larson and get a Whaler.
MilwaukeeWhaler	posted 08-28-2002 10:45 AM ET (US) I am not sure what a Larson is? Some kind of raft or something. Buy a Whaler!!!
hooter	posted 08-28-2002 11:25 AM ET (US) www.larsonboat.com Looks like mebby dey's made by a bowlin'-bawl manufacturer. Bet dey SINKS like a bowlin bawl, you take a wave wrong or pull da plug. Get a Waler!
keltonkrew	posted 08-28-2002 11:33 AM ET (US) go to www.iboats.com and in the upper right hand corner is a button for boating foums. Lots of good help there, especially with engines.
Monnas Rock	posted 08-28-2002 12:10 PM ET (US) Mikeorton,
Monnas Rock	posted 08-28-2002 12:25 PM ET (US) Lets try this again.. Mike Orton, Don't pay any attention to those of us with nothing but Whalers between our ears. The real point is, Welcome to boating. You may be embarking on the most enjoyable, relaxing hobby of your life. Enjoy your Larson, get all the boating education and experiance you can and as you learn you will discover the difference between boats. We advocate Boston Whalers for as many reasons as there are Whaler owners, but above all for their safety. Once again, enjoy and as soon as we finish ribbing you over your Larson, I'm sure most of us would be happy to answer any questions we can. One word of caution, Boston Whalers are addictive. WE WILL CONVERT YOU!
mikeorton	posted 08-28-2002 03:47 PM ET (US) well, I am ready to be converted.... well all of me except my wallet... LOL Thanks for all those who helped out, with other info, Mike
Dunk	posted 08-28-2002 05:47 PM ET (US) You can't use muff's on that engine to run it out of the water. If you look at the tube like skeg that hangs down behind the prop you'll see it has an opening with screen in it. This is the main water intake for the engine. There' is an attachment made to clamp on to this skeg, but it's going to be tough to find. You be better off putting some kind of tub under it or backing it down a boat ramp. Chances are she's going to need a water pump.. Also that engine has battery fired CD ignition system. It was one of the first powerpacs ever used on a outboard engine. Before you invest any money in the engine you should make sure it has spark. Remove the plugs but leave one in the wire boot hanging loose. Crank the engine while grounding the plug to the engine head. If you have no spark chances are the pac is shot. A new pac is about 325 bucks. Another problem area on that engine is the split gearcase. If she looks like she's leaking lube around the horizonal seal then chances are she will pick up water once in the water. If the engine is an Electromatic model with single lever control and you have shifting problems you scrap the engine because the gearcases are about impossible to find. Any in depth questions on that engine should be asked on the www.aomci.org board. It's a antique outboard club. Go the "ask a member" section. There are guy's there who specialize in those old V4's. As long as the deck, transom or the stringers are not rotted out of that Larson it's a good boat.