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newt posted 12-27-2002 10:10 AM ET (US)
OK, Santa was very good to me and brought a Standard Horizon Eclispse VHF. In the West Marine catalog this model is described as submersible to JIS 7 standards. However, the documentation included with the radio says only that the microphone is submersible. My intent was to install a submersible radio so that spray and washdown would not be a problem.
Is anyone else using this radio on a Montauk? Should I bring it back for a more weather resistant model?
Jimm posted 12-27-2002 10:18 AM ET (US)
According to the web site www.standardhorizon.com your RADIO is submersible....Jim
triblet posted 12-27-2002 10:23 AM ET (US)
There's the old Eclipse and the new Eclipse+.
IIRC, the old one (no plus) was not JIS7, the
new one is.
And, yes you want a submersible radio on
a Montauk, or any boat where the radio isn't
located in the cabin.

Chuck
hanksaper posted 12-28-2002 10:44 AM ET (US)
I have used various radios on open boats.Try placing a heavy see through plastic bag over the radio with one end opened. You can enclose the microphone in a plastic sandwich bag with a rubber band arround the open end where the wire enters the mic.Have done this with an older Eclipse+ mounted on the vertical surface of console-never had a problem.
seasicknes posted 12-28-2002 11:32 AM ET (US)
I have the Standard eclipse + radio on my montauk. The radio has a plastic cover with it so it is adviseable that you put it on. Mine has performed very well (5 years now). I had an ICOM and it did hold up. So I replaced it and it broke again. (IC-M59).
Ken
triblet posted 12-31-2002 11:11 AM ET (US)
I just noticed on their website, that SH
has a $40 rebate on the Intrepid+ through
01/31/03, which price the Intrepid+ just
about where the Eclipse+ is.
http://www.standardhorizon.com/
Chuck
triblet posted 12-31-2002 11:21 AM ET (US)
I discovered I still had my 2001 West catalog
and did a little research. SH changed the
Eclipse+ a good deal between 2001 and 2002.
The Eclipse+ 2001 does not appear to have
been submersible, has concentric volume and
squelch knobs, and the mike cord comes out
of the lower right of the front of the radio.
The Eclipse+ 2002 is JIS-7 submersible, has
separate volume and squelch knobs, and the
mike cord comes out of the right side of the
radio, and $20 cheaper than the 2001.
And I still vaguely remember that there was
an Eclipse (no plus) several years ago.
Interesting. I wonder how they got past the
"all new type approvals have to have DSC"
rule.

Chuck
skookum point posted 12-31-2002 12:44 PM ET (US)
Newt, I too bought the same radio (in the spring of 20002) based on West Marine description that it is a submersible unit. As you discovered, the documentation indicates that only the mic is submersible. I installed it anyway - flush mounted in the console of my 15SS. No problems so far, with one season's worth of rain and washdown. Perhaps the documentation is not up to date?
triblet posted 12-31-2002 02:10 PM ET (US)
I downloaded the manual for the Eclipse+ 2002
from the SH website. It indeed says that
only the mike is submersible.
But their website goes to great lengths to
say that the whole radio is submersible.
Here's what I'd do:

1. Call Standard Horizon and ask them about
this discrepancy. If you aren't 100% happy
with the response, see #2

2. Assuming you bought it from West, they
have a superb return policy. Take it back.
Their website has the Intrepid LE for $149.
Buy that, it IS JIS-7. If they give you ANY
flack at all, mumble "false advertising",
"I have an open boat and it gets REALLY wet."
etc.
Skookum, this includes you.
BTW: there is some really screwy pricing on
the West website:
Eclipse+, black, new: $149
Eclipse+, black, refurb: $328 !!!!
Eclipse+, white, new (I think): $269 !!!!

Chuck
newt posted 01-02-2003 08:55 AM ET (US)
Thanks for all the insight. The model I have is the eclipse +. It sounds like the unit is submersible, but it is quite odd that the documentation doesn't say so.
I am going to go ahead and install the radio.

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Author	Topic: Standard Horizon Eclipse & Montauk
newt	posted 12-27-2002 10:10 AM ET (US) OK, Santa was very good to me and brought a Standard Horizon Eclispse VHF. In the West Marine catalog this model is described as submersible to JIS 7 standards. However, the documentation included with the radio says only that the microphone is submersible. My intent was to install a submersible radio so that spray and washdown would not be a problem. Is anyone else using this radio on a Montauk? Should I bring it back for a more weather resistant model?
Jimm	posted 12-27-2002 10:18 AM ET (US) According to the web site www.standardhorizon.com your RADIO is submersible....Jim
triblet	posted 12-27-2002 10:23 AM ET (US) There's the old Eclipse and the new Eclipse+. IIRC, the old one (no plus) was not JIS7, the new one is. And, yes you want a submersible radio on a Montauk, or any boat where the radio isn't located in the cabin. Chuck
hanksaper	posted 12-28-2002 10:44 AM ET (US) I have used various radios on open boats.Try placing a heavy see through plastic bag over the radio with one end opened. You can enclose the microphone in a plastic sandwich bag with a rubber band arround the open end where the wire enters the mic.Have done this with an older Eclipse+ mounted on the vertical surface of console-never had a problem.
seasicknes	posted 12-28-2002 11:32 AM ET (US) I have the Standard eclipse + radio on my montauk. The radio has a plastic cover with it so it is adviseable that you put it on. Mine has performed very well (5 years now). I had an ICOM and it did hold up. So I replaced it and it broke again. (IC-M59). Ken
triblet	posted 12-31-2002 11:11 AM ET (US) I just noticed on their website, that SH has a $40 rebate on the Intrepid+ through 01/31/03, which price the Intrepid+ just about where the Eclipse+ is. http://www.standardhorizon.com/ Chuck
triblet	posted 12-31-2002 11:21 AM ET (US) I discovered I still had my 2001 West catalog and did a little research. SH changed the Eclipse+ a good deal between 2001 and 2002. The Eclipse+ 2001 does not appear to have been submersible, has concentric volume and squelch knobs, and the mike cord comes out of the lower right of the front of the radio. The Eclipse+ 2002 is JIS-7 submersible, has separate volume and squelch knobs, and the mike cord comes out of the right side of the radio, and $20 cheaper than the 2001. And I still vaguely remember that there was an Eclipse (no plus) several years ago. Interesting. I wonder how they got past the "all new type approvals have to have DSC" rule. Chuck
skookum point	posted 12-31-2002 12:44 PM ET (US) Newt, I too bought the same radio (in the spring of 20002) based on West Marine description that it is a submersible unit. As you discovered, the documentation indicates that only the mic is submersible. I installed it anyway - flush mounted in the console of my 15SS. No problems so far, with one season's worth of rain and washdown. Perhaps the documentation is not up to date?
triblet	posted 12-31-2002 02:10 PM ET (US) I downloaded the manual for the Eclipse+ 2002 from the SH website. It indeed says that only the mike is submersible. But their website goes to great lengths to say that the whole radio is submersible. Here's what I'd do: 1. Call Standard Horizon and ask them about this discrepancy. If you aren't 100% happy with the response, see #2 2. Assuming you bought it from West, they have a superb return policy. Take it back. Their website has the Intrepid LE for $149. Buy that, it IS JIS-7. If they give you ANY flack at all, mumble "false advertising", "I have an open boat and it gets REALLY wet." etc. Skookum, this includes you. BTW: there is some really screwy pricing on the West website: Eclipse+, black, new: $149 Eclipse+, black, refurb: $328 !!!! Eclipse+, white, new (I think): $269 !!!! Chuck
newt	posted 01-02-2003 08:55 AM ET (US) Thanks for all the insight. The model I have is the eclipse +. It sounds like the unit is submersible, but it is quite odd that the documentation doesn't say so. I am going to go ahead and install the radio.