posted 03-11-2003 07:58 PM ET (US)        

www.sisqtel.net/~jkriz/drawings/montauk-hin.html

Anyone interested in helping us out, please post your numbers here or send me an email.

posted 03-11-2003 11:15 PM ET (US)            

You have been added....

I have several other that sent me emails and they have been added also....

posted 03-12-2003 12:45 AM ET (US)            

1994 Montauk
BWCN6962C494

Best regards.

posted 03-12-2003 11:08 AM ET (US)            

We also need your Stenciled number from inside the Hull... Should start with a 3....

posted 03-17-2003 03:22 PM ET (US)            

35208 1966 (but it has a 1972 counsil) If you would like to see pictures to prove the year, please don't hesitate to let me know :)

posted 03-27-2003 06:54 PM ET (US)            

Trying to fill in these gaps so we also need these years:
1975
1979
1983
1990, 1991, 1992, 1993
1995, 1996
1998
2000,2001,2002

Have found something interesting from around the 1997 hulls, the Stenciled number inside the Hull seems to have been discontinued. Anyone have any further info on this?

posted 03-29-2003 10:56 AM ET (US)            

Metal tag: BWCE 5296M 80G
Stencil: 3B5589

posted 03-29-2003 11:09 AM ET (US)            

donel,
I believe you are missing two letters from your Metal Tag numbers.. These letters are sometimes hard to read as they were Silk Screened on the Tag... I believe if you look real close in the proper light, and maybe from an angle, you should see BWCK instead of just BW....

Please let us know what you find...

posted 03-29-2003 11:39 AM ET (US)            

Would you verify that Stencil number on the Hull for us??? This number seems to be way out of sequence... Could that number possibly be 3C3589 instead of 3C5589??? Sometimes these numbers are tricky to read....

Also, what type of Cabinet Latches do you have on your Teak Console Doors? Plastic or Brass? I am trying to determine what year they started using the Brass Latches...

If anyone has something unusual that they know was original, please let us know... I will post these things in the Special Notes column...

posted 03-29-2003 01:19 PM ET (US)            

Latches are brass.

posted 03-29-2003 01:24 PM ET (US)            

I did mean 3B instead of 3C....
Your number does fall out of sequence unless someone below you misread their numbers..

So far you have the earliest boat with the Brass Cabinet Latches.... Maybe 1980 was the first year?

posted 03-29-2003 01:42 PM ET (US)            

Metal tag: BWCK 5306A686
Stencil: 3C4858

posted 03-30-2003 01:43 PM ET (US)            

BWCN 5196 B19I

3E3699

I checked the metal tag a few times and it really is an I (just straight line) at the end and not the numeral 1. Why is that?

posted 03-30-2003 04:09 PM ET (US)            

Actually it should be a 1 at the end... It should also be a 1 after the B...

The B stands for the month it was manufactured, February and the first number after that is the year of manufacturer which should be a 1 for 1991... The last two digits is the Model year which in your case is a 1991 Montauk.

With the "New Format" boats built after July in a given year usually are the next year models... There are some early exceptions....
Example, a boat built in July, Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, of 1991 would be a 1992 Model...

I hope this makes sense to everyone....

Thanks for everyone's input.... We are slowly filling in all the gaps.....

posted 03-30-2003 04:21 PM ET (US)            

I misread your statement about the capital I instead of the number 1...

Maybe the person that was doing the tags that day picked up the wrong tool....

I believe it was Gep who has an Outrage 18, and he says he has a lower case i..... I haven't seen anyone else mention a lower case letter.

Maybe the same person that stamped your tag stamped Gep's?? Anyway, these are some of the things we are looking for... Any variations in items on the boats also....

posted 03-31-2003 11:12 AM ET (US)            

My Montauk has brass latches on the console doors as well as an unplated bronze norman pin.

Bill B

posted 03-31-2003 12:30 PM ET (US)            

As you have stated above, your boat is a 1966 Nauset. You have a very nice looking Nauset with an updated Console...

Unfortunately no matter what you do to the boat, it will always be a 1966 Hull that was originally a Nauset.

The first year of the Montauk was 1973 but these were not listed in any of the Catalogs that I can see until 1974.. So far, the earliest Montauk we have listed is by the owner "Montauk", and his boat was built in May of 1973 as a 1973 Montauk..

posted 03-31-2003 04:20 PM ET (US)            

It sounds like you have a Nauset... Look at the photos in the Cetacea section here:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/photoLog.html

There are some great photos of the Nauset. Page 6 has the Nauset, page 11 has a Sakonnet, and page 30 has some Nauset's and an Eastport. You may also have a Sakonnet or an Eastport depending on what your seating arrangement is.

posted 04-01-2003 08:11 AM ET (US)            

Thanks for your help. Montauk or Nauset either way she's a Whaler and I love it.

posted 04-02-2003 08:57 PM ET (US)            

Serial #USBWCN 9492E999; outside of starboard transom

posted 04-02-2003 10:15 PM ET (US)            

It seems that somewhere around 1997 Boston Whaler stopped putting the Stenciled number inside the Splash Well and there have been reports that it is not inside the Bow Locker either.. If you cannot find a Stenciled number anywhere, then you do not have one either...

posted 04-07-2003 06:58 PM ET (US)            

HIN BWC N8583 I798

The format of the HIN is well defined. Mine
sez:

BWC: Boston Whaler
N8583: Serial number
I7: Built in September 1987
98: 1998 model.

See http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.html

posted 04-09-2003 01:32 PM ET (US)            

I have not seen the last 3 digits after the numbers that you state...

What is the -148 ???

Is that on the Metal Tag or ??

posted 04-26-2003 06:49 PM ET (US)            

What was the last year of the Big "T" Safety Helm by Teleflex used on Montauks???

Can everyone help me out here???

I have one on my 1978....

I see in catalogs that the 1983 Montauks that have the next generation console, has the newer, smaller Teleflex helm... I would be guessing if this was the first year they started using the Big "T"...

Does anyone have the smaller Teleflex in a 1982 or older Montauk???

Here is a link to some of the items I am trying to find out the particulars on... Brass Cabinet Latches, Cabinet Locks, Big "T" helms, etc......

[urlwww.sisqtel.net/~jkriz/drawings/montauk-hin.html [/url]

posted 04-27-2003 11:54 AM ET (US)            

A little correction from the above post...
I would be guessing the the "last" year they used the Big "T" was 1982??? and the first year for the SafeT helm would be 1983?? but this is just a guess at this point until I get more info...

Can anyone let me know what they have??

posted 04-27-2003 11:59 AM ET (US)            

The Teleflex Big "T" helm was a rather large 2 piece, "Oval", black bezel.

You can see photos of the Big "T" here and compare yours:

posted 05-03-2003 02:04 PM ET (US)            

Just got my 1988 Montauk back from the fiberglass shop. My stencil number
is 3C 9761. The metal tag number is
BWCL 7143A 888. Thanks.

posted 05-03-2003 03:38 PM ET (US)            

1981 Montauk-17.

BWCE 6253 M 81C
3B3500

Plastic cabinet latches.

Round base on the Teleflex Helm.
Sent photos of helm to your email.

posted 05-09-2003 08:39 AM ET (US)            

Stencil-3C5376

posted 05-09-2003 10:58 PM ET (US)            

Let's keep them coming in... As soon as I get a Montauk for every year, I will ask Chuck Bennett from Whaler to help decipher the differences in all the numbers....

boaterbill,
I think you should find that one of your numbers should be a letter... 58901, I believe the 1 should be an L..... Please advise and thanks...

posted 05-12-2003 11:46 PM ET (US)            

As mentioned to you in another thread, you have a 1972 Model Hull. The Montauk was not made until 1973..

Your serial numbers indicate that your boat was built in December of 1971 as a 1972 17' Hull.
BWCA 51901272
Stencil # 3A6667

To find out exactly what model you have, I would send an email to cbennett@whaler.com along with your numbers and he will tell you what model Whaler you have.

Just remember, whatever hull you have, it is a Boston Whaler Classic.

posted 05-14-2003 09:06 AM ET (US)            

BWCM7336L900

posted 05-14-2003 12:37 PM ET (US)            

You are missing a letter in the fourth position:
BWC"H"... Could you double check your tag number and look closely for the missing letter. I think it should be an "H"..

Thanks
-----------------

Tin Man,

Your second to the last digit should probably be a 9 rather then a 0.. Otherwise you would have a 00=2000 year boat. The last two digits in the New Year Format idicate the year. Yours should be 90=1990. Your boat was built in December of 1989.

posted 05-16-2003 10:41 PM ET (US)            

I have just received an email from Chuck Bennett confirming 99% of all the Montauk numbers.

I am still trying to narrow down a few items.
1. What year did Whaler stop using the Plastic Cabinet Latches?
2. What year did Whaler stop using the Teleflex Big-T Helm?
3. What year did Whaler change from using the Taylor Made Windshield?
4. What year did Whaler change the length of the Steering cable from 17' to 18'... Most of the newer Montauks (1980 + ?) have an 18' steering cable. Somewhere around that time and before, they used 17' cables... I have photos of both installations...
5. Anything else?

None of the above are a big deal.... Who Cares??
Well, people who care about the small details...

If you think you have anything out of the ordinary that you believe is original Whaler, or something that is missing that every other boat seems to have, please let me know..

posted 05-22-2003 12:00 AM ET (US)            

At this point I can only assume that Whaler made several versions of the 30th Anniversary year model. As you noticed from the Tag numbers, Hans boat was built in 1992 as a 1991 year model. I guess if Whaler wanted to build another 30th Anniversary year model today, it would have a date of manufacture of 2003 as a 1991 year model.

I can only go by what information people send in at this time. I have contacted Chuck Bennett a couple of times already and really don't want to make it a weekly habit as I know he is busy and his time is valuable. From time to time I do contact him and ask his opinion on the differences of the different Serial numbers and also ask him to verify certain details. He has been very helpful and extremely fast on his response to any of my questions I have presented him with so far.

posted 06-19-2003 06:45 AM ET (US)            

Hey Joe, The site looks great. We have quite a few Montauks moored out here, I think I'll try to take a small census around the docks.

posted 06-19-2003 11:33 AM ET (US)            

BWCN5304C191

posted 06-23-2003 02:32 PM ET (US)            

1988 Montauk

posted 07-16-2003 11:51 AM ET (US)            

2002
Montauk 170
BWCE2790D202

Didn't realize you were including the newer boats.

posted 07-16-2003 01:30 PM ET (US)            

I do agree that you now have a Montauk but if we did a search on your serial numbers at Whaler, we would find that your boat will always be listed as a Sport 17... I am trying to stay within the original serial numbers for original Montauks so we might find out various bits of information...

I would like to know what original items came on these Montauks.

1. Plastic or brass cabinet latches
2. Teleflex Big-T helm or Safe-t helm
3. Windshield manufacturer
4. and anything else that may be different but original, etc...

I would also like to list the different options that were added to the boat when new like:
1. Fishing Package
2. Comfort Package
3. Cooler Seat
4. Rod Holders and Cushions
5. Fire Extinguisher Pocket
6. etc.....

sr,
Yes, those are consecutive numbers on the Metal Tags. I still have not found out why some numbers are not in sequence though.

I would like to see Montauk Madness submit his stencil numbers along with a few other members that are missing theirs too.

Matthew,
Your boat has been added... Are there any original options added to your boat????

posted 07-16-2003 01:40 PM ET (US)            

My boat came equipped with the "fishing package" and I ordered a bow cushion.

posted 07-16-2003 07:54 PM ET (US)            

What type of cabinet latches do you have??? Plastic or Brass

What type of Teleflex helm??? Big-T or Safe-T

Is there any name embossed on your windshield....

posted 07-17-2003 07:10 PM ET (US)            

brass hinges

Not sure about the difference between the BigT or SafeT. It looks like the one in this picture but without the recessed fire extinguisher: http://www.sisqtel.net/~jkriz/Montauk/montauk.html

Nothing on my windshield either. I can't say for sure if it's original or not. Bare with me...first time whaler owner and still trying to learn everything there is to know about the boat.

posted 07-18-2003 12:34 PM ET (US)            

If there is anyone that says they know everything about Whalers, just walk away from them.... All of us are still learning things about Boston Whaler Boats, Options, and Accessories... Some of the people here know almost everything, but there is always something that might have slipped by, changed, or improved without everyone knowing about it.

Brass Hinges???? What I really would like to know is about the latches. When you close the cabinet doors, there is a male and a female latch that keep them shut.... Are these "Latches" made out of Brass or Plastic??

I think I have determined that you have the Big-T helm... The Big-T has a large, black, oval piece that mounts on the console... The Safe-T has a much smaller round, black piece that mounts to the console....

The link you list of the photos is my Montauk and it does have the Big-T helm...

Nevada Joe,

I would also like to know if you have the Big-T helm... Somewheres around 1979 to 1980, the helm was changed to the Safe-T helm which has the smaller, black, round mount.

posted 07-18-2003 03:14 PM ET (US)            

I didn't include the details you were looking for in my original post. I had plastic latches-now removed because they were in poor shape. I may not replace them since I went with the Brass hinges which made for tight fitting doors. I have the Safe-T helm,I believe. I looked at your pictures and I do not have the oval piece. I bought the boat three weeks ago and am trying to figure everything out, even though I have been lurking here for several years and wanting a Whaler forever. My boat was originally purchased in Califorina and brought to Indiana and repowered with a 1990 Yahama 85. I was told I am the second owner, but have not verified that. My user name comes from paying three times the book value for a boat I couldn't live without!

posted 07-18-2003 05:05 PM ET (US)            

I know Montauks are more expensive here in California. Many people on the forum would laugh when they heard the price I am going to ask for my Montauk when I put it on the market next week... That's because they know they can get it cheaper in other parts of the country... I have traveled to Idaho twice to buy boats and once to Seattle... A person has to have the time to do this as to save shipping costs... I also had a boat shipped from Ohio so I know shipping is not cheap...
Thanks for the info..

home Aside,

Most of the items you list are already here on this Website... jimh is the proud owner of this site and I have nothing to do with it.. I am only collecting data to try and expand the information of Boston Whalers not found anywhere else on the Web.... at least that I can find anyway...
I am hoping that the list of serial numbers and equipment for the Montauks and Outrage 18/19's will help put a little focus on what brand of equipment and options were used through the years and when and what they were changed to..

I am doing this for all Boston Whaler enthusiasts that may find this information worthwhile now, or somewhere down the line... It is also interesting to see the list of different serial numbers, when they were made, and if there are any irregularites in the sequence which there are.
The lists of Montauks has grown considerably but I know there are a lot more out there...

Regards,
Joe Kriz

posted 07-20-2003 04:00 PM ET (US)            

We are getting real close to having at least 1 Montauk from every year listed.
We are only missing 3 years;
1992
1996
2000

posted 07-20-2003 08:54 PM ET (US)            

Sorry. Typo on my part. I have brass latches.

Pictures of the helm here: http://www.hicksclan.com/78_Whaler/

I took my Whaler out for the first time this weekend in Rockport,Tx. My wife and I had a blast. Even as rough as she looks I had a lot of compliments on the boat. I can't wait until I get her cleaned up and looking as close to new as possible. The fish did their part in ensuring we had a good first time out. 1 Redfish, 2 Trout, 6 Sheephead and 7 Black Drum. Not bad for a first time out.

Tight Lines!

Sean

posted 07-22-2003 07:40 PM ET (US)            

I found the original owners manual, packing check list, and options check list, for my 1987 Montauk. It is dated 6/6/79, by James V. Young, Jr., Engineering Dept. Let me know if you want these.

posted 07-27-2003 07:48 PM ET (US)            

She has a Big-T helm.

posted 07-27-2003 07:48 PM ET (US)            

She has a Big-T helm.

posted 08-12-2003 06:51 PM ET (US)            

I'm very interested in how your Montauk was originally fitted out....Type of console, RPS Legs, etc.. Our hulls were pretty close on the production line (Mine is B0394). A comparison would add value to Joe's Montauk data base.

posted 08-12-2003 10:02 PM ET (US)            

Some early consoles had wings on the sides that protruded towards the rear... I don't think you have this type but it is possible. BillB has the winged version..

The next version was without wings and had one angled surface for the instruments and engine controls. See photos of my 1978 here:
www.sisqtel.net/~jkriz/Montauk/montauk.html
Look Ma, no Wings....

You should also be able to determine what type of Teleflex Helm you have from these photos... The one on my Montauk is the Big-T Helm and is determined by the "Oval" shape of the black bezel beneath the steering wheel.. The later Safe-T Helms were "Round"..

Do you have any photos of your Montauk???

Many people here would be able to tell you exactly what you have from the photos you submit..

posted 08-19-2003 05:20 PM ET (US)            

BWCB 5347 M75h

#3A9602

posted 08-21-2003 01:08 PM ET (US)            

BWCK 7813B787

posted 08-21-2003 04:21 PM ET (US)            

Your Montauk has been added.... I see you don't live very far from me.. I live 1 1/2 from Redding just West of Yreka...
Where do you go boating? Shasta? others?

I have a 1978 Montauk for sale if you know anyone else that is looking for a fine Classic...

Congratulations on your purchase...

telecaster,

If your boat came originally with a side console and wood slat seats, then it is most likely a 17' Sport instead of a Montauk...

posted 08-21-2003 06:04 PM ET (US)            

Correction, that is 1 1/2 HOURS from you just up Interstate 5....

posted 09-05-2003 06:49 PM ET (US)            

BWCE5351M80G
Stencil: 3B5635
Brass latches

posted 09-05-2003 07:06 PM ET (US)            

I think if you look real close at your tag with maybe a magnifying glass and in the correct light, you will see some of the missing letters... They are probably real faint... or maybe you will not be able to see them at all but give it a try...

This is because the numbers you can see were stenciled in and the numbers you can't see were silk screened on...

Your missing letters are BWCE and then the numbers 5351 and then there should be an M to fill in the missing space between 80G..

So, your number should probably read:
BWCE5351M80G

Thanks for listing your boat and it has been added...

posted 09-05-2003 08:06 PM ET (US)            

Oh Well.... Your tag is probably weathered more then others... I know on my 1978 tags it appeared almost the same as you mention... I am able to read mine though in the correct light and with a magnifying glass or high powered reading glasses....

I think we get the idea of your number though... You could also send cbennett@whaler.com to double check the numbers and see where your boat was first delivered to..

My boat was delivered to Las Vegas Boats in Henderson, Nevada on 3/7/78... Now it live in Upstate Calforina and has been here since 1988...