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zodog posted 05-20-2003 09:53 AM ET (US)
[I] just bought a 1967 [Boston Whaler] [The] seller [says] it is a Montauk, but from what [I] can find there was no [Montauk] in 1967. The hull [stencil] number is 37353.
Any ideas as to what type [Boston Whaler] [I] bought? Thanks.
jimh posted 05-20-2003 10:34 AM ET (US)
I have no idea what boat you have purchased, but you yourself can probably make a reasonably accurate guess about it by reading the articles in the reference section.
You can browse through the section that shows photographs of many different models and try to match one with your boat.
You can read the written descriptions of the various models and try to match those written descriptions to your boat.
There are tables that show identification numbers ranges and years, but these would only allow you to determine the model year and not the precise model, so those are of limited use to you since you already know the model year of your boat (1967).
It would be a great help and would reduce the possibilities a great deal if you were to have mentioned how long the boat is, how wide the boat is, and to have described it breifly. Clues like that are really invaluable in determining what model boat you have since we cannot see it and we must rely on you to describe it to us in writing.
With respect to the hull identification number, the Boston Whaler factory maintains records which provide information about how the boat was originally delivered, what model it was, and the dealer to received it.
If you cannot make any headway in solving this puzzle about that model you have through visual interpretation, you could find out what model it used to be 36 years ago when delivered.
There is no guarantee that the boat you presently have is in its original form. It may well have been modified in the prior 36 years of ownership.
Here is a hyperlink to the reference section:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/
BugsyG posted 05-20-2003 10:13 PM ET (US)
Hi Zodog,
I purchased my Boston Whaler [from a seller who represented it] as a 1972 Montauk. [To make a] long story short, it [was actually built as] a 1966 Nauset [to which] a 1972 fiberglass console [had been added]. But you would never know it
Joe
JBCornwell posted 05-20-2003 10:35 PM ET (US)
Shouldn't that be called a "Maketauk"?
Red sky at night. . .
JB
Chesapeake posted 05-21-2003 11:00 AM ET (US)
zodog: [Contact the Boston Whaler factory] in Florida. If you give Chuck Bennett the serial number, he can tell you what your hull was originally configured as (Nauset, Sakkonnet, etc.), when it was manufactured and to which dealer it was sold (and I think when). Good to know that kind of info.
I was surprised to find out that my hull was configured and sold as a Nauset.
jimh posted 05-21-2003 11:23 PM ET (US)
JB,
I like your new name for a Boston Whaler Montauk that was assembled after it left the factory: the Make-Tauk, or maybe even the Made-Tauk. Very good descriptive name!
I think we ought to limit it to boats that use original pieces and parts from Boston Whaler. If the boat is built from non-Whaler parts then it might be called a "Franken-Tauk" (as in Dr. Frankenstein).
By the way, in this case of ZODOG's boat we have not determined that the boat has been modified because ZODOG has not described it. It may simply be a case of a misinformed seller calling the boat a Montauk and the naive buyer thinking it is a Montauk.
If we could have a little description of the boat (from ZODOG) we could tell what was being discussed here.
Knowing what it was 36 years ago might be nice historically, but could we first find out what it is now, which just a few sentences of description ought to be able to provide.
If you ask people what kind of boat you have, you ought to at least provide a few details like length and width and what it looks like.
Bigshot posted 05-22-2003 10:26 PM ET (US)
Jim.....don't you know by now that ALL 16-17' Whalers are Montauks. I could have sold my Newport for $3k more if I would have misled my potential purchasers and just called it a Montauk.
I saw a guy pull up in a Tashmoo and I was like "wow nice Tashmoo!" the guy looked at me like I had FOUR heads and said " Huh....it's a Montauk." I said .....sorry.
elaelap posted 05-22-2003 10:59 PM ET (US)
I bought my Katama as a Montauk, and would have called her that forever if I hadn't found this site. I also would have thrown away those "funny looking" rails in front of and attached to the console(!). Also, my DMV registration shows my boat to be a '78, when according to the number stenciled on the transom it's a '71.
zodog posted 05-23-2003 12:05 PM ET (US)
well heres what i bought(thanks to your information).. bw looked up my boat ..its a CURRITUCK and was built in the ma. facility shipped out sept 67 and sold for around 1400.00 less motor...now i dont have anything like the orginal mine has a center fiberglass console and leaning post...hull is in great shape but the inside is a mess been hand painted with a brush several times...now the question for me is do i want to keep her as is with center console or restore her to orginal....if i do anything i have to do the inside over and whuld like to keep it blue and advise would be helpfull....and this web site is just great ive very much enjoyed it thanks...zodog
elaelap posted 05-23-2003 12:57 PM ET (US)
You'll probably want to jump over to the "Repairs/Mods" forum, where you will find great information and advice regarding restoration. I lived at that site over the past winter while I was fixing up my old Katama. You'll find that very knowledgable folks are generous with their assistance, and that jimh (the site developer and moderator) has established an amazing data base with answers to virtually every question you may have.
Best of luck with your fine old craft, and welcome.
Tony
Taylor posted 05-23-2003 06:18 PM ET (US)
Tony's right, take the question about restoration over to the repair/mods forum. One hint would be to proof read and spell check your postings here, please. The quality of responses goes up that way.

FYI (and you can read this where I did in the reference section) the Currituck is the forerunner of the sport, its a sit down boat with low bench seats, and more suitable for smoother protected waters.
With the rise in popularity of center consoles, many boats that were not center consoles were converted by the addition of an after market center console, or even ones from whaler.
With the long and sucessful run of the Montauk the name Montauk became sort of synonymous with center console. So many non-Montauks, including non-whalers get labled as Montauks either through confusion or perhaps even on purpose at sale time.
The results are that people who did not have Montauks were able to stand up and say they had a Montauk.
Both of the conversion and the renaming happened in the case of your boat.
andiamo posted 05-27-2003 03:35 PM ET (US)
jimh: how about calling 17 ft hulls with non-Boston Whaler parts "fake-tauks" although I do like Make-tauks as well but it seems the seller did not participate in strait-taulk
elaelap posted 05-27-2003 06:36 PM ET (US)
Andiamo:
My old Katama ain't no "Fake-tauk!" In fact, since Montauks came after Katamas, they should be called "Fake-amas."
Curiously, I was pleased to find out (at this site) that my old lady was seven years older than I thought and that she was a relatively rare model. After all, as the Bard once said, a rose by any other name still smells as sweet (though she actually smells a bit ripe at the moment, what with salmon blood and scales all over her deck two or three times a week).
Lots of my fishing buddies call all 15-20 foot BWs "Montauks," regardless of model.
Tony
jimh posted 05-27-2003 11:45 PM ET (US)
Juliet ponder in Act II, Scene ii, line 45:
"What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet..."
elaelap posted 05-28-2003 10:24 AM ET (US)
Hamlet: Do you see yonder cloud that's almost in shape of a camel?
Polonius: By the mass, and 'tis like a camel, indeed.
Hamlet: Methinks it is like a weasel.
Polonius: It is backed like a weasel.
Hamlet: Or a Whaler?
Polonius: Very like a Whaler.
Hamlet II.ii.400
To paraphrase or not to paraphrase...
JBCornwell posted 05-28-2003 10:49 AM ET (US)
Hey, Zodog!
I've been waiting for you to post about your boat on Repairs/Mods. I can't wait any more.
Had I your boat, I would restore her as a Sakonnet, complete with raised front deck, full weather canvas and rail-mounted rod boxes. Lots of work, but oh, what an elegant boat she would be!
Red sky at night. . .
JB

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Author	Topic: Do I Have a 1967 Montauk?
zodog	posted 05-20-2003 09:53 AM ET (US) [I] just bought a 1967 [Boston Whaler] [The] seller [says] it is a Montauk, but from what [I] can find there was no [Montauk] in 1967. The hull [stencil] number is 37353. Any ideas as to what type [Boston Whaler] [I] bought? Thanks.
jimh	posted 05-20-2003 10:34 AM ET (US) I have no idea what boat you have purchased, but you yourself can probably make a reasonably accurate guess about it by reading the articles in the reference section. You can browse through the section that shows photographs of many different models and try to match one with your boat. You can read the written descriptions of the various models and try to match those written descriptions to your boat. There are tables that show identification numbers ranges and years, but these would only allow you to determine the model year and not the precise model, so those are of limited use to you since you already know the model year of your boat (1967). It would be a great help and would reduce the possibilities a great deal if you were to have mentioned how long the boat is, how wide the boat is, and to have described it breifly. Clues like that are really invaluable in determining what model boat you have since we cannot see it and we must rely on you to describe it to us in writing. With respect to the hull identification number, the Boston Whaler factory maintains records which provide information about how the boat was originally delivered, what model it was, and the dealer to received it. If you cannot make any headway in solving this puzzle about that model you have through visual interpretation, you could find out what model it used to be 36 years ago when delivered. There is no guarantee that the boat you presently have is in its original form. It may well have been modified in the prior 36 years of ownership. Here is a hyperlink to the reference section: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/
BugsyG	posted 05-20-2003 10:13 PM ET (US) Hi Zodog, I purchased my Boston Whaler [from a seller who represented it] as a 1972 Montauk. [To make a] long story short, it [was actually built as] a 1966 Nauset [to which] a 1972 fiberglass console [had been added]. But you would never know it Joe
JBCornwell	posted 05-20-2003 10:35 PM ET (US) Shouldn't that be called a "Maketauk"? Red sky at night. . . JB
Chesapeake	posted 05-21-2003 11:00 AM ET (US) zodog: [Contact the Boston Whaler factory] in Florida. If you give Chuck Bennett the serial number, he can tell you what your hull was originally configured as (Nauset, Sakkonnet, etc.), when it was manufactured and to which dealer it was sold (and I think when). Good to know that kind of info. I was surprised to find out that my hull was configured and sold as a Nauset.
jimh	posted 05-21-2003 11:23 PM ET (US) JB, I like your new name for a Boston Whaler Montauk that was assembled after it left the factory: the Make-Tauk, or maybe even the Made-Tauk. Very good descriptive name! I think we ought to limit it to boats that use original pieces and parts from Boston Whaler. If the boat is built from non-Whaler parts then it might be called a "Franken-Tauk" (as in Dr. Frankenstein). By the way, in this case of ZODOG's boat we have not determined that the boat has been modified because ZODOG has not described it. It may simply be a case of a misinformed seller calling the boat a Montauk and the naive buyer thinking it is a Montauk. If we could have a little description of the boat (from ZODOG) we could tell what was being discussed here. Knowing what it was 36 years ago might be nice historically, but could we first find out what it is now, which just a few sentences of description ought to be able to provide. If you ask people what kind of boat you have, you ought to at least provide a few details like length and width and what it looks like.
Bigshot	posted 05-22-2003 10:26 PM ET (US) Jim.....don't you know by now that ALL 16-17' Whalers are Montauks. I could have sold my Newport for $3k more if I would have misled my potential purchasers and just called it a Montauk. I saw a guy pull up in a Tashmoo and I was like "wow nice Tashmoo!" the guy looked at me like I had FOUR heads and said " Huh....it's a Montauk." I said .....sorry.
elaelap	posted 05-22-2003 10:59 PM ET (US) I bought my Katama as a Montauk, and would have called her that forever if I hadn't found this site. I also would have thrown away those "funny looking" rails in front of and attached to the console(!). Also, my DMV registration shows my boat to be a '78, when according to the number stenciled on the transom it's a '71.
zodog	posted 05-23-2003 12:05 PM ET (US) well heres what i bought(thanks to your information).. bw looked up my boat ..its a CURRITUCK and was built in the ma. facility shipped out sept 67 and sold for around 1400.00 less motor...now i dont have anything like the orginal mine has a center fiberglass console and leaning post...hull is in great shape but the inside is a mess been hand painted with a brush several times...now the question for me is do i want to keep her as is with center console or restore her to orginal....if i do anything i have to do the inside over and whuld like to keep it blue and advise would be helpfull....and this web site is just great ive very much enjoyed it thanks...zodog
elaelap	posted 05-23-2003 12:57 PM ET (US) You'll probably want to jump over to the "Repairs/Mods" forum, where you will find great information and advice regarding restoration. I lived at that site over the past winter while I was fixing up my old Katama. You'll find that very knowledgable folks are generous with their assistance, and that jimh (the site developer and moderator) has established an amazing data base with answers to virtually every question you may have. Best of luck with your fine old craft, and welcome. Tony
Taylor	posted 05-23-2003 06:18 PM ET (US) Tony's right, take the question about restoration over to the repair/mods forum. One hint would be to proof read and spell check your postings here, please. The quality of responses goes up that way. FYI (and you can read this where I did in the reference section) the Currituck is the forerunner of the sport, its a sit down boat with low bench seats, and more suitable for smoother protected waters. With the rise in popularity of center consoles, many boats that were not center consoles were converted by the addition of an after market center console, or even ones from whaler. With the long and sucessful run of the Montauk the name Montauk became sort of synonymous with center console. So many non-Montauks, including non-whalers get labled as Montauks either through confusion or perhaps even on purpose at sale time. The results are that people who did not have Montauks were able to stand up and say they had a Montauk. Both of the conversion and the renaming happened in the case of your boat.
andiamo	posted 05-27-2003 03:35 PM ET (US) jimh: how about calling 17 ft hulls with non-Boston Whaler parts "fake-tauks" although I do like Make-tauks as well but it seems the seller did not participate in strait-taulk
elaelap	posted 05-27-2003 06:36 PM ET (US) Andiamo: My old Katama ain't no "Fake-tauk!" In fact, since Montauks came after Katamas, they should be called "Fake-amas." Curiously, I was pleased to find out (at this site) that my old lady was seven years older than I thought and that she was a relatively rare model. After all, as the Bard once said, a rose by any other name still smells as sweet (though she actually smells a bit ripe at the moment, what with salmon blood and scales all over her deck two or three times a week). Lots of my fishing buddies call all 15-20 foot BWs "Montauks," regardless of model. Tony
jimh	posted 05-27-2003 11:45 PM ET (US) Juliet ponder in Act II, Scene ii, line 45: "What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet..."
elaelap	posted 05-28-2003 10:24 AM ET (US) Hamlet: Do you see yonder cloud that's almost in shape of a camel? Polonius: By the mass, and 'tis like a camel, indeed. Hamlet: Methinks it is like a weasel. Polonius: It is backed like a weasel. Hamlet: Or a Whaler? Polonius: Very like a Whaler. Hamlet II.ii.400 To paraphrase or not to paraphrase...
JBCornwell	posted 05-28-2003 10:49 AM ET (US) Hey, Zodog! I've been waiting for you to post about your boat on Repairs/Mods. I can't wait any more. Had I your boat, I would restore her as a Sakonnet, complete with raised front deck, full weather canvas and rail-mounted rod boxes. Lots of work, but oh, what an elegant boat she would be! Red sky at night. . . JB