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captbone posted 06-22-2003 02:47 PM ET (US)
In one of the marinas by my house, I have come across a 25 foot revenge walkaround with twin 130 v4 yamahas. But around the bow it has an additional foot of bulworks that make the bow have quite a flare to it. I know that it is factory but have been unable to find pictures anywhere. What is it and when were they made. Thanks
jimh posted 06-22-2003 05:43 PM ET (US)
That 25 with the raised gunwales does have a special name. I don't think it is a Revenge. Perhaps a 25-Walk Around.
I am sure someone will have the correct nomenclature.
For my taste is seems to have an odd look to it, but it is probably functional. I think the intent was to provide a safe deck area to "walk around" to the bow, hence the name.
Peter posted 06-22-2003 08:43 PM ET (US)
I believe the Whaler catalog called that the Revenge 25 when it came out and then called it the Revenge 25 Full Cabin when the Walk-Thru models appeared. It appeared to be offered as late as 1985. It looks somewhat similar to the late '80s Whaler 25 Walkaround but it is not the same hull. The Whaler 25 Walkaround has a 25' 3" length overall and a 9'6" beam whereas the Revenge 25 has 24' 7" length overall and 8' beam.
captbone posted 06-22-2003 10:45 PM ET (US)
Thanks, I like the look and think it would be a good offshore hull under 27 feet and still trailerable. I would love to find some pictures and the fuel specs.
jimh posted 06-22-2003 11:28 PM ET (US)
In the 1988 Catalogue there is a Revenge 25 Walk-Around model. It appears to share the same hull dimensions at the Revenge 25 Walk-Through.
The difference is the fore deck cabin top was molded a bit narrower to make the side decks of the boat wider to permit one to walk around the cabin, and also the raised gunwales at the bow were added. This makes the boat more suitable for fishing, I guess, as you can walk your rod and reel around to the foredeck it needed. On the Revenge Walk-Through you'd have trouble getting on the foredeck with a fish on the line.
They also had a Revenge 25 Walk-Around Hard Top model that year. That looks like the same boat but with a factory added hard top.
logjamslam posted 02-11-2004 03:05 AM ET (US)
There is a photo of one of these at Hampton Marine. It looks like a pretty nice boat. I was curious about the construction of the bulworks. Is it foam filled fiberglass? How thick is it?http://www.hamptonwatercraft.com/boats.asp?BoatID=314
JayR posted 02-12-2004 08:24 AM ET (US)
Odd lookig and the photo loads slowly...
http://www.hamptonwatercraft.com/boats.asp?BoatID=314
power puppy posted 02-15-2004 05:06 PM ET (US)
I have a 25 ft Revenge which meets your description. It has the rasied bulwarks in the bow, and is a walk around. It is a 1984 model. I have never seen one in my area (Annapolis)
kglinz posted 02-15-2004 05:39 PM ET (US)
According to the 85 catalog I have it was just called a Revenge 25 Full Cabin in 85. The beam shown in the catalog is 8' not the 9'6" shown on the website.
doobee posted 02-18-2004 08:07 PM ET (US)
I'm not disputing your catalog but we always referred to it as the Revenge Walkaround in the office. As far as I know, all the Revenge walkarounds (and hardtops) had the bulwarks around the bow.
Sometime around 1990, Whaler introduced an entirely new hull design that was referred to as the 25' Wide Beam Walkaround. That is is the 9'6" version referred to in the website.
logjamslam posted 02-18-2004 09:03 PM ET (US)
doobee-did the 1990 wide beam walkaround still have the raised bulwarks or did they do away with it by then?
doobee posted 02-18-2004 10:00 PM ET (US)
The wide beam did not have the raised bulwarks, it was intended to be a walkaround from the very start. The hull looks very much like a 27. Even though the side decks do not have the bulwarks, they are wider and deeper than the Revenge Walkaround.
In regard to performance, I think the narrow beam 25 offers a better ride, but the wide beam is better suited to trolling offshore. I believe Whaler ran an showing the wide beam in a large wave trough with copy that said "nothing parallel parks like a Whaler".
Tom W Clark posted 02-19-2004 10:27 AM ET (US)
This is one of those cases where the Whaler naming of models gets very confusing, but bear with me:
The boat in question is a Revenge 25 or a Revenge 25 Walk-Around or a Revenge 25 Full Cabin depending on when it was built.
Regardless of the particular model name, this is essentially the initial 25' Revenge model that Whaler made starting in 1982. It has the raised coaming in front which is not foam filled.
Production of this model continued even after Whaler introduced the Revenge 25 Walk Through in 1984 and continued at least until 1989 when it was superseded by the new Whaler 25 Walkaround (affectionately known by its nickname, "Wide Body".) This latter model was essentially a shortened Whaler 27.
Please note that the Revenge 25 Walk-Around uses a hyphenated two word spelling of the term walk-around, while the later Whaler 25 Walkaround uses a single word form.
Also please note that the "Wide Body" is NOT a Revenge model. It is simply Whaler 25 which associates it more closely with the Whaler 27 models that it is derived from.
While I do not know for sure, I suspect the two word, one word differentiation was an attempt on Whaler's part to help avoid total confusion regarding these similar models.
mtbadfish posted 02-20-2004 04:57 PM ET (US)
Here's an ad for one that has some really good overhead shots. Gives a good perspective of the "walkaround".
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/6/6/65847266.htm

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Author	Topic: Unknown 25ft whaler
captbone	posted 06-22-2003 02:47 PM ET (US) In one of the marinas by my house, I have come across a 25 foot revenge walkaround with twin 130 v4 yamahas. But around the bow it has an additional foot of bulworks that make the bow have quite a flare to it. I know that it is factory but have been unable to find pictures anywhere. What is it and when were they made. Thanks
jimh	posted 06-22-2003 05:43 PM ET (US) That 25 with the raised gunwales does have a special name. I don't think it is a Revenge. Perhaps a 25-Walk Around. I am sure someone will have the correct nomenclature. For my taste is seems to have an odd look to it, but it is probably functional. I think the intent was to provide a safe deck area to "walk around" to the bow, hence the name.
Peter	posted 06-22-2003 08:43 PM ET (US) I believe the Whaler catalog called that the Revenge 25 when it came out and then called it the Revenge 25 Full Cabin when the Walk-Thru models appeared. It appeared to be offered as late as 1985. It looks somewhat similar to the late '80s Whaler 25 Walkaround but it is not the same hull. The Whaler 25 Walkaround has a 25' 3" length overall and a 9'6" beam whereas the Revenge 25 has 24' 7" length overall and 8' beam.
captbone	posted 06-22-2003 10:45 PM ET (US) Thanks, I like the look and think it would be a good offshore hull under 27 feet and still trailerable. I would love to find some pictures and the fuel specs.
jimh	posted 06-22-2003 11:28 PM ET (US) In the 1988 Catalogue there is a Revenge 25 Walk-Around model. It appears to share the same hull dimensions at the Revenge 25 Walk-Through. The difference is the fore deck cabin top was molded a bit narrower to make the side decks of the boat wider to permit one to walk around the cabin, and also the raised gunwales at the bow were added. This makes the boat more suitable for fishing, I guess, as you can walk your rod and reel around to the foredeck it needed. On the Revenge Walk-Through you'd have trouble getting on the foredeck with a fish on the line. They also had a Revenge 25 Walk-Around Hard Top model that year. That looks like the same boat but with a factory added hard top.
logjamslam	posted 02-11-2004 03:05 AM ET (US) There is a photo of one of these at Hampton Marine. It looks like a pretty nice boat. I was curious about the construction of the bulworks. Is it foam filled fiberglass? How thick is it?http://www.hamptonwatercraft.com/boats.asp?BoatID=314
JayR	posted 02-12-2004 08:24 AM ET (US) Odd lookig and the photo loads slowly... http://www.hamptonwatercraft.com/boats.asp?BoatID=314
power puppy	posted 02-15-2004 05:06 PM ET (US) I have a 25 ft Revenge which meets your description. It has the rasied bulwarks in the bow, and is a walk around. It is a 1984 model. I have never seen one in my area (Annapolis)
kglinz	posted 02-15-2004 05:39 PM ET (US) According to the 85 catalog I have it was just called a Revenge 25 Full Cabin in 85. The beam shown in the catalog is 8' not the 9'6" shown on the website.
doobee	posted 02-18-2004 08:07 PM ET (US) I'm not disputing your catalog but we always referred to it as the Revenge Walkaround in the office. As far as I know, all the Revenge walkarounds (and hardtops) had the bulwarks around the bow. Sometime around 1990, Whaler introduced an entirely new hull design that was referred to as the 25' Wide Beam Walkaround. That is is the 9'6" version referred to in the website.
logjamslam	posted 02-18-2004 09:03 PM ET (US) doobee-did the 1990 wide beam walkaround still have the raised bulwarks or did they do away with it by then?
doobee	posted 02-18-2004 10:00 PM ET (US) The wide beam did not have the raised bulwarks, it was intended to be a walkaround from the very start. The hull looks very much like a 27. Even though the side decks do not have the bulwarks, they are wider and deeper than the Revenge Walkaround. In regard to performance, I think the narrow beam 25 offers a better ride, but the wide beam is better suited to trolling offshore. I believe Whaler ran an showing the wide beam in a large wave trough with copy that said "nothing parallel parks like a Whaler".
Tom W Clark	posted 02-19-2004 10:27 AM ET (US) This is one of those cases where the Whaler naming of models gets very confusing, but bear with me: The boat in question is a Revenge 25 or a Revenge 25 Walk-Around or a Revenge 25 Full Cabin depending on when it was built. Regardless of the particular model name, this is essentially the initial 25' Revenge model that Whaler made starting in 1982. It has the raised coaming in front which is not foam filled. Production of this model continued even after Whaler introduced the Revenge 25 Walk Through in 1984 and continued at least until 1989 when it was superseded by the new Whaler 25 Walkaround (affectionately known by its nickname, "Wide Body".) This latter model was essentially a shortened Whaler 27. Please note that the Revenge 25 Walk-Around uses a hyphenated two word spelling of the term walk-around, while the later Whaler 25 Walkaround uses a single word form. Also please note that the "Wide Body" is NOT a Revenge model. It is simply Whaler 25 which associates it more closely with the Whaler 27 models that it is derived from. While I do not know for sure, I suspect the two word, one word differentiation was an attempt on Whaler's part to help avoid total confusion regarding these similar models.
mtbadfish	posted 02-20-2004 04:57 PM ET (US) Here's an ad for one that has some really good overhead shots. Gives a good perspective of the "walkaround". http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/6/6/65847266.htm