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CarolinaWhalerMan posted 07-14-2003 03:42 PM ET (US)
Anyone know where I can get the specs on this boat? I am interested in the layout and fuel capacity.
JFM posted 07-14-2003 03:54 PM ET (US)
What year?
If newer model LOA 17'6", beam 7", draft 12", weight 1700lbs., max HP 150 25", fuel cap. 56 gal.
JFM posted 07-14-2003 03:58 PM ET (US)
Make that beam 7'
prm1177 posted 07-14-2003 04:29 PM ET (US)
For the Outrage II 17:
http://web.archive.org/web/19990202055210/www.whaler.com/recreation/outrage/outrage.17.html
CarolinaWhalerMan posted 07-14-2003 04:29 PM ET (US)
Wow, I thought the 17 Outrages only had a capacity of about 43 gallons, but that is based on memory. How many years did they make this boat? I thought it was only offered in the 90's and the max. HP was 115. I would love to learn the history of this particular model but have turned up very little info on it. I thank you for any help you might be able to give me.
whalersman posted 07-14-2003 05:16 PM ET (US)
There has been a lot of discussion about the differences of the 17' Outrage I and the Outrage II on this forum. You can do a search to find out all the particulars.
The 17 Outrage I was made between 1990 and 1995.
The 17 Outrage II was made between 1996 and 1999.
There is a huge difference between the two boats.
The Outrage I was 17'3" in length, 6'8" beam and had a 34 or 37 gallon fuel tank. Draft was 10" and the weight was 1020 lbs. Max HP was 120..
Joe
spotsnspecks posted 07-14-2003 05:38 PM ET (US)
My 1995 17' Outrage had a 36 gallon internal (floor) tank. I had a 12 gallon auxillary tank kept in the RPS storage locker. I beleive the locker was aftermarket (non OEM) but the seat was factory. I was told that this model was one of, if not the last Dougherty design at Boston Whaler. Can someone confirm this(?), as it looks a lot like the Edgewater boats of comparable size.
Tell us what year model you are inquiring about becuase it does make a difference in specs/layout.
You can do a site search and find a lot of discussion comparing the Outrage 1 (1990-95) and Outrage II (1996- ?).
CarolinaWhalerMan posted 07-14-2003 05:59 PM ET (US)
Thanks for your help, Whalersman. That is precisely the type of information I'm looking for. I'm kind of new to this forum stuff but will try to wade my way through a search. You say there is a tremendous difference between the I & II. Which do you prefer and why?
Thanks again!
CarolinaWhalerMan posted 07-14-2003 07:21 PM ET (US)
O.K., how the heck do you do a search? Danged if I can find it anywhere on this site.
Jerry Townsend posted 07-14-2003 07:35 PM ET (US)
The Outrage II has a LOA of 17'6", a beam of 7', weighs 1700 lbs, a swamped capabity of 2600 lbs, is rated for 7 persons, is rated for a max 150 HP and has an internal 56 gallon fuel tank. The Outrage II also has a slightly 'deeper' "V", a higher gunwale and will draw 2(10 vs 12) inches more than the Outrage I.
As such, there are pros and cons to each design. The Outrage I is a bit easier to tow and can use a smaller engine for the "same" performance. The Outrage II is a bit larger and is a bit better in "big" water because of the deeper "V" and being heavier. ---- Jerry/Idaho
CarolinaWhalerMan posted 07-14-2003 07:41 PM ET (US)
Allright, I found the search function on Continuouswave but when I type in Outrage 17 model I model II, it loads me up with articles on all Outrages and nothing specifically about the two 17 ft models. What am I doing wrong?
whalersman posted 07-14-2003 08:02 PM ET (US)
Carolina,
You need to go to the main Web page to find the search engine..
http://continuouswave.com/
Once there, click on the "Site Search" link....
Now, back to the Outrage 17's....
First off, I want to say that I think both Outrage 17's are fine boats and they both have their advantages. Jerry T owns an Outrage II and so did I last year.
Outrage I:
Lighter and easier to tow for smaller vehicles
Classic style hull
2' less draft which helps is shallower water
34 gallon built-in fuel tank
Outrage II:
Weighs 650 lbs more which improves ride in rougher water
Deeper V which improves ride in rougher water
Huge in deck fish well or storage area (this is great)
Higher gunwales
56 gallon built-in fuel tank
The above comparisons may or may not seem like much but there is a huge difference in these boats. If you are constantly fishing Offshore in rougher water, I think I would choose the Outrage II.. I owned a 1987 17 Outrage II and liked the ride much better then my Montauk or my Outrage 18. If you are looking for a fresh water boat that can be towed easier up and down mountain ranges and such, then I would consider the Outrage I especially if you don't own a 1/2 or 3/4 ton truck or equivilant to tow it with.
If you already have a large enough tow vehicle to pull the Outrage II anywhere, then the rest of the decision rests on what you dislike or like about either model. Either one would be a great choice and would be just that, Your Choice......
Good Luck with your decision and keep us informed....
Joe Kriz
CarolinaWhalerMan posted 07-14-2003 08:18 PM ET (US)
Now I'm really confused! lol I didn't think they were making the second model in '87. I thought they started those in 95. I wish I could see pictures of both models through their changes to zero in on the one I'd prefer.
Thanks for all your help!!!
whalersman posted 07-14-2003 09:01 PM ET (US)
Carolina,
Sorry.... Typo on my part.....
1997 17' Outrage II, NOT 1987......
Joe
whalersman posted 07-14-2003 09:04 PM ET (US)
The years that I stated far above on this post are accurate...
17' Outrage I
1990, 1991, 1992 ,1993, 1994, 1995
17' Outrage II
1996, 1997, 1998, 1999
The 1990 17 Outrage I, had a little bit different transom then the 1991 to 1995... Otherwise, almost identical between these years...
CarolinaWhalerMan posted 07-14-2003 09:35 PM ET (US)
You guys are the greatest! I wish I had discovered this site years ago. I grew up in a Whaler and want my kids to do the same. Thanks for all your help. I look forward to talking with y'all lots more.
CarolinaWhalerMan posted 07-15-2003 03:56 PM ET (US)
I notice thaere are hardly any pictures of 17 Outrages in the Cetecea index. Does anybody know where a good online collection of pics can be found?
jstachowiak posted 07-17-2003 04:10 PM ET (US)
Here is pictures of one:
http://www.used-boats.net/zBoat12.html
I look at www.iboats.com, www.boatttraderonline. com and other smaller ones and collect the pictures on my computer in folder named Whaler, folder named 17 whaler, then file name indicates year.
gf posted 07-17-2003 10:46 PM ET (US)

Wow! That '92 Outrae 17 looks mint!
http://www.used-boats.net/zBoat12.html
CarolinaWhalerMan posted 07-17-2003 10:58 PM ET (US)
Thanks J. Those are the best pics I have seen yet of the 17 Outrage I. I wish I knew where to find some more. There are a few scattered around on the Cetacea page but that is about all I've been able to find on model I. Thanks again.
jimh posted 07-18-2003 09:17 AM ET (US)
You can find the specifications for most Boston Whaler boats from 9-22 feet listed in the Reference section of this website.
Try: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/specifications.html
raydent99 posted 07-20-2003 12:28 AM ET (US)
I can't say that I agree with the OR II having a better ride. More weight doesn't necessarily mean a better ride in rough water (for proof, look at the weights on the very light Contender boats). Hull design and length to beam ratio matter most. Yes, the OR II has a slightly deeper V...but it is 1/3 of a foot wider. More surface area over the same overall length means more of the surface of the hull can pound on the waves.
I have the OR I and am very impressed with the ride. I haven't been on the OR II, however, so I can't compare.
ajones posted 08-31-2006 03:24 PM ET (US)
I just bought a 1997 Outrage. According to this site -it should be a 1995 or an Outrage II. How do I determine what I have?
Royboy posted 09-01-2006 05:02 PM ET (US)
The Hull Identification Number (or HIN) is on the transom on the starboard side near the top. This number will help you determine the model.
Roy
Joe Kriz posted 09-01-2006 07:37 PM ET (US)
Amy,
Apparently you are still confused.
The link on this site does not say a 1995 is an Outrage 17' II.
1990 to 1995 is an Outrage 17'
1996 to 1999 is an Outrage 17' II
See your other posting here:
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012908.html
I think you are trying to make things too complicated for yourself.
What year is your boat?
If it is a 1996 to 1999 then you have an Outrage 17' II with the Accu-Trac hull
Look at the last two digits of the HIN number that is stamped into the transom of the hull on the starboard outside of the boat.

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Author	Topic: 17 ft Outrage
CarolinaWhalerMan	posted 07-14-2003 03:42 PM ET (US) Anyone know where I can get the specs on this boat? I am interested in the layout and fuel capacity.
JFM	posted 07-14-2003 03:54 PM ET (US) What year? If newer model LOA 17'6", beam 7", draft 12", weight 1700lbs., max HP 150 25", fuel cap. 56 gal.
JFM	posted 07-14-2003 03:58 PM ET (US) Make that beam 7'
prm1177	posted 07-14-2003 04:29 PM ET (US) For the Outrage II 17: http://web.archive.org/web/19990202055210/www.whaler.com/recreation/outrage/outrage.17.html
CarolinaWhalerMan	posted 07-14-2003 04:29 PM ET (US) Wow, I thought the 17 Outrages only had a capacity of about 43 gallons, but that is based on memory. How many years did they make this boat? I thought it was only offered in the 90's and the max. HP was 115. I would love to learn the history of this particular model but have turned up very little info on it. I thank you for any help you might be able to give me.
whalersman	posted 07-14-2003 05:16 PM ET (US) There has been a lot of discussion about the differences of the 17' Outrage I and the Outrage II on this forum. You can do a search to find out all the particulars. The 17 Outrage I was made between 1990 and 1995. The 17 Outrage II was made between 1996 and 1999. There is a huge difference between the two boats. The Outrage I was 17'3" in length, 6'8" beam and had a 34 or 37 gallon fuel tank. Draft was 10" and the weight was 1020 lbs. Max HP was 120.. Joe
spotsnspecks	posted 07-14-2003 05:38 PM ET (US) My 1995 17' Outrage had a 36 gallon internal (floor) tank. I had a 12 gallon auxillary tank kept in the RPS storage locker. I beleive the locker was aftermarket (non OEM) but the seat was factory. I was told that this model was one of, if not the last Dougherty design at Boston Whaler. Can someone confirm this(?), as it looks a lot like the Edgewater boats of comparable size. Tell us what year model you are inquiring about becuase it does make a difference in specs/layout. You can do a site search and find a lot of discussion comparing the Outrage 1 (1990-95) and Outrage II (1996- ?).
CarolinaWhalerMan	posted 07-14-2003 05:59 PM ET (US) Thanks for your help, Whalersman. That is precisely the type of information I'm looking for. I'm kind of new to this forum stuff but will try to wade my way through a search. You say there is a tremendous difference between the I & II. Which do you prefer and why? Thanks again!
CarolinaWhalerMan	posted 07-14-2003 07:21 PM ET (US) O.K., how the heck do you do a search? Danged if I can find it anywhere on this site.
Jerry Townsend	posted 07-14-2003 07:35 PM ET (US) The Outrage II has a LOA of 17'6", a beam of 7', weighs 1700 lbs, a swamped capabity of 2600 lbs, is rated for 7 persons, is rated for a max 150 HP and has an internal 56 gallon fuel tank. The Outrage II also has a slightly 'deeper' "V", a higher gunwale and will draw 2(10 vs 12) inches more than the Outrage I. As such, there are pros and cons to each design. The Outrage I is a bit easier to tow and can use a smaller engine for the "same" performance. The Outrage II is a bit larger and is a bit better in "big" water because of the deeper "V" and being heavier. ---- Jerry/Idaho
CarolinaWhalerMan	posted 07-14-2003 07:41 PM ET (US) Allright, I found the search function on Continuouswave but when I type in Outrage 17 model I model II, it loads me up with articles on all Outrages and nothing specifically about the two 17 ft models. What am I doing wrong?
whalersman	posted 07-14-2003 08:02 PM ET (US) Carolina, You need to go to the main Web page to find the search engine.. http://continuouswave.com/ Once there, click on the "Site Search" link.... Now, back to the Outrage 17's.... First off, I want to say that I think both Outrage 17's are fine boats and they both have their advantages. Jerry T owns an Outrage II and so did I last year. Outrage I: Lighter and easier to tow for smaller vehicles Classic style hull 2' less draft which helps is shallower water 34 gallon built-in fuel tank Outrage II: Weighs 650 lbs more which improves ride in rougher water Deeper V which improves ride in rougher water Huge in deck fish well or storage area (this is great) Higher gunwales 56 gallon built-in fuel tank The above comparisons may or may not seem like much but there is a huge difference in these boats. If you are constantly fishing Offshore in rougher water, I think I would choose the Outrage II.. I owned a 1987 17 Outrage II and liked the ride much better then my Montauk or my Outrage 18. If you are looking for a fresh water boat that can be towed easier up and down mountain ranges and such, then I would consider the Outrage I especially if you don't own a 1/2 or 3/4 ton truck or equivilant to tow it with. If you already have a large enough tow vehicle to pull the Outrage II anywhere, then the rest of the decision rests on what you dislike or like about either model. Either one would be a great choice and would be just that, Your Choice...... Good Luck with your decision and keep us informed.... Joe Kriz
CarolinaWhalerMan	posted 07-14-2003 08:18 PM ET (US) Now I'm really confused! lol I didn't think they were making the second model in '87. I thought they started those in 95. I wish I could see pictures of both models through their changes to zero in on the one I'd prefer. Thanks for all your help!!!
whalersman	posted 07-14-2003 09:01 PM ET (US) Carolina, Sorry.... Typo on my part..... 1997 17' Outrage II, NOT 1987...... Joe
whalersman	posted 07-14-2003 09:04 PM ET (US) The years that I stated far above on this post are accurate... 17' Outrage I 1990, 1991, 1992 ,1993, 1994, 1995 17' Outrage II 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The 1990 17 Outrage I, had a little bit different transom then the 1991 to 1995... Otherwise, almost identical between these years...
CarolinaWhalerMan	posted 07-14-2003 09:35 PM ET (US) You guys are the greatest! I wish I had discovered this site years ago. I grew up in a Whaler and want my kids to do the same. Thanks for all your help. I look forward to talking with y'all lots more.
CarolinaWhalerMan	posted 07-15-2003 03:56 PM ET (US) I notice thaere are hardly any pictures of 17 Outrages in the Cetecea index. Does anybody know where a good online collection of pics can be found?
jstachowiak	posted 07-17-2003 04:10 PM ET (US) Here is pictures of one: http://www.used-boats.net/zBoat12.html I look at www.iboats.com, www.boatttraderonline. com and other smaller ones and collect the pictures on my computer in folder named Whaler, folder named 17 whaler, then file name indicates year.
gf	posted 07-17-2003 10:46 PM ET (US) Wow! That '92 Outrae 17 looks mint! http://www.used-boats.net/zBoat12.html
CarolinaWhalerMan	posted 07-17-2003 10:58 PM ET (US) Thanks J. Those are the best pics I have seen yet of the 17 Outrage I. I wish I knew where to find some more. There are a few scattered around on the Cetacea page but that is about all I've been able to find on model I. Thanks again.
jimh	posted 07-18-2003 09:17 AM ET (US) You can find the specifications for most Boston Whaler boats from 9-22 feet listed in the Reference section of this website. Try: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/specifications.html
raydent99	posted 07-20-2003 12:28 AM ET (US) I can't say that I agree with the OR II having a better ride. More weight doesn't necessarily mean a better ride in rough water (for proof, look at the weights on the very light Contender boats). Hull design and length to beam ratio matter most. Yes, the OR II has a slightly deeper V...but it is 1/3 of a foot wider. More surface area over the same overall length means more of the surface of the hull can pound on the waves. I have the OR I and am very impressed with the ride. I haven't been on the OR II, however, so I can't compare.
ajones	posted 08-31-2006 03:24 PM ET (US) I just bought a 1997 Outrage. According to this site -it should be a 1995 or an Outrage II. How do I determine what I have?
Royboy	posted 09-01-2006 05:02 PM ET (US) The Hull Identification Number (or HIN) is on the transom on the starboard side near the top. This number will help you determine the model. Roy
Joe Kriz	posted 09-01-2006 07:37 PM ET (US) Amy, Apparently you are still confused. The link on this site does not say a 1995 is an Outrage 17' II. 1990 to 1995 is an Outrage 17' 1996 to 1999 is an Outrage 17' II See your other posting here: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012908.html I think you are trying to make things too complicated for yourself. What year is your boat? If it is a 1996 to 1999 then you have an Outrage 17' II with the Accu-Trac hull Look at the last two digits of the HIN number that is stamped into the transom of the hull on the starboard outside of the boat.