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littleblue posted 02-24-2004 05:51 AM ET (US)   Profile for littleblue   Send Email to littleblue  
Anyone have a bait tank on a Montauk? I'm mainly interested in the Kodiak brand of tank. Thanks.
BabySitter posted 02-24-2004 08:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for BabySitter  Send Email to BabySitter     
My buddy uses a 13 gallon (Aqua World ?) pro-flo in his Montauk with great success. The size fits well back in the corner and it keeps menhaden as well as any I've seen. They are available at Boaters World for around $ 150.00

JB

jmorgan40 posted 02-24-2004 06:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for jmorgan40  Send Email to jmorgan40     
I have a 27 gallon Keep Alive mounted behid the RPS. I made some nice teak half-moon chocks with shock cord to hold down. I have it wired to a switch on the dash but there is a plug on the wire right before the tank if I want to take it out. I took out the recirculating pum and installed a bubbler because I do alot of freshwater striper fishing and the pump drives the blueback herring nuts. When I go saltwater fishing, I can use the same chocks and hold-down straps to mount a second igloo cooler for fish. I am out of town this week but would be glad to take some shots and e-mail them to you this weekend.
Tight Lines...Joe
jimh posted 02-25-2004 09:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Why would you want to ruin a nice boat like a Montauk with a big, ugly bait tank?
HAPPYJIM posted 02-25-2004 09:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
Jimh, that response is irrational, inconsistent, egomanical and and and and besides.......that bait tank comes in handy as a nice coffee table for a cheese board and you can chill many bottles of wine inside.
Knot at Work posted 02-25-2004 09:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for Knot at Work  Send Email to Knot at Work     
5 Gallon bucket personally monogrammed with my boats name. Use a portable D - cell battery powered aereator and easily keeps 24 Pinfish, and 4 live shrimp alive for the afternoon.

Stows well and cleans up easily.

? - Why ruin a fine vessel like the Montauk with Wine? I prefer Coors Light.

NausetBoy posted 02-25-2004 11:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for NausetBoy  Send Email to NausetBoy     
Ive seen a nauset with the console all the way up front and a huge, i guess 7x3 foot bait box about 3 feet tall taking up the back end of the boat. It sat very, very low, powered by twin 35 johnsons of different years. Live Bait was painted on the side in big, red leters! It was a strange site!!!
ratherwhalering posted 02-25-2004 12:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
Fishing with live bait vs. fishing with lures/dead bait is like the difference between sailing in light winds with a 170 jib vs. a stay sail. You can be much more productive with live bait, but I agree it is not worth a single hole in your classic. But...

There is a simple way to make your own livewell that completely removes from your Montauk, without drilling a single hole.

Mount an Aqua World 500 transom mounted bait pump to your transom using 3m 4200. It doesn't take much to hold the bracket in place, and the pump will disengage from the bracket, leaving only the small bracket on the transom when not in use..
http://www.boatus-store.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=20002&langId=-1&catalogId=20002&productId=73344

Run the 3/4" pump tube to the top of a 15-20 gallon round trash can (I prefer a nice, white color can with a secure lid), with a nipple fitting mounted 5-6" from the lip of the tank. Mount an elbow on the inside, directing waterflow downward.

Run a 1.25' tube from the top of the tank ( 1" BELOW the level of the intake tube) to your splashwell. Put a screen on the outflow fitting.

Buy a Perkos male plug from Wests, and use your stern light socket as a powersource. If you have a on/off (two position) push/pull switch for your running lights, replace it with a 3-position switch so that the first position is off, the second position is stern light/baitwell, and third position is bow/stern/baitwell lights.

Bungee your well into an aft corner using the lifting eye and the sternrail as anchors.

Done.

littleblue posted 02-25-2004 02:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for littleblue  Send Email to littleblue     
Why put a bait tank in? Are you serious?

As for the little 5gal buckets and aereators, those wont work. I need to keep alive anchovies, and those aereators don't keep them alive for very long.

jmorgan40 posted 02-25-2004 06:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for jmorgan40  Send Email to jmorgan40     
Jim,
Thanks for your comments about the bait tank. I guess when you own the forum you can be as sarcastic as you wish. With that said, I did not consider it ruining my Montauk. In fact it is very professional looking as you will see after I post the pics. When freshwater striper fishing on Lake Lanier, a bait tank is a must have item if you wish to fish with Live Blueback herring as bait. The little buggers are like cotton candy to stripers. The drawback is they are difficult to keep alive and a small 5 gallon bucket will not cut it. I guess needs change in different parts of the country, and installing one on my Montauk was much more reasonable than buying a new rig for 20 - 30K with a built-in tank. This site has been a great resource for me and thousands of other Whaler owners. But, lately it seems that for the last month or so people post a reasonable question looking for feeback and all they get is one or two serious responses and about a dozen sarcastic ones. I'll just chalk it up to cabin fever for all those not lucky enough to live in a warmer climate like myself and enjoy our whalers all year round. Thanks for a great site and take my comments for what they are worth or just reply with another zinger...your choice. Take care, Joe
jimh posted 02-25-2004 08:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Actually, when you run your own forum you still get to have an opinion, even if it does not match some of the other authors.

When I bought my Boston Whaler it came with some giant circular bait tank that occupied the best place in the cockpit and was always in the way. I must have been a 25-30 gallon tank--Huge thing! I think my wife put it out with the trash—I have not seen it in four years. I removed all the water pickup plumbing and a really nice 12-Vdc pump mounted under the gunwale. I am still trying to figure out what to do with the pump. But that big fish tank gizmo, I really don't have a clue where that went.

I cannot imagine such a monstrosity in the tiny rear cockpit of a Montauk!

jmorgan40 posted 02-25-2004 09:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for jmorgan40  Send Email to jmorgan40     
Jim,
I have been working the last 2 nights on a online gallery site. Just posted it tonight. Out of town on business and and seemed like a good thing to do instead of being bored in a hotel room. Check it out and let me know what you think. When I get back in town I will take a couple of shots of the teak chocks that hold the tank in place. They turned out pretty good. There is one shot that shows a partial view though. Site is at: http://morganfamily.home.mindspring.com/id1.html Take Care. Joe
Fishcop posted 02-25-2004 09:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Fishcop  Send Email to Fishcop     
Littleblue,

Lots of Montauks have Kodiak PF-14 to PF-32 mounted in the rear of the cockpit. Raw water pickup on the transom (1100gph is best) with the fill hose and drain going over the splash well. 12v DC to the battery and you are good to go!
Let me know what you need and I will point you in the right direction. Lots of good deals out there and some with free shipping.

BTW, I am less than 40 min from you and can help if you need.

Andy

littleblue posted 02-26-2004 01:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for littleblue  Send Email to littleblue     
I don't even have my boat yet...just getting prepared I suppose, so when the time comes, I'll already know what to do/get. I'm in the process of selling my old boat right now, if it will stop raining I can go do some prep.

Right now, it seems the best would be the 14 gal Kodiak since their isn't too much room to spare. jmorgan seems to have a similar setup to what I envision. Nice boat by the way and thanks for the pics.

Whalerdan posted 02-26-2004 08:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdan  Send Email to Whalerdan     

Little Blue -

I use the 5gal bucket and bubbler all the time. It works fine for shrimp and mud minnows here on the east coast. Shrimp are pretty sensitive, and it keeps them alive. The only time it's a problem is when it's really hot out. The water in the bucket gets hot and starts killing the bait. I've read on the local fishing web page you can put one of those blue ice things in the bucket to help cool off the water and help the bait last longer. I plan on trying it this summer.

I use to live in So. Cal. so I know anchovies are a little bigger bait. Are you sure the bucket won't work for them, have you tried it?

One thing nice about using buckets is you can have one on each end of the boat so the guy fishing in the front doesn't have to keep running to the back for fresh bait.

Danny Shaw

Knot at Work posted 02-26-2004 08:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Knot at Work  Send Email to Knot at Work     
As far as the 5 gal buckets.. don't know it till you try it. I carry two and I have not lost any bait except for the occasional floater which you get no matter what.

A change to the water works well by parts and the bubbler works fine.

So I dont' see the issue.... It is portable it works well and the best part is mobile.

Good thing is you can put 24 Pin fish and 24 shrimp in each bucket NO PROBLEM!

understand?

If you doubt it try it, Maybe the Florida Bait are tougher than those sissy bait fish up north?

jimh posted 02-26-2004 08:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Joe--Your Montauk looks great. Nice web page, too.
ratherwhalering posted 02-26-2004 02:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
Problem here is that we mainly use anchovies/herring for halibut and stripper. They shed scales like a labrador sheds fur in spring. And they croak quicker than butterflies in a blender. Bait quality is all over the board, too.
alvispollard posted 02-26-2004 03:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for alvispollard  Send Email to alvispollard     
I have the Kodiak 14 gallon on my montauk. It comes with a 350 gph pump. The 1100 gph thread is not correct. The 350 comes with the tank. Fits perfect between CC and pilot seat. Allows pilot seat to face rear when trolling. Nice setup.
littleblue posted 02-26-2004 04:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for littleblue  Send Email to littleblue     
I have tried the bucket and even bigger containers w/ aerator. If you have ever tried to keep anchovies alive you would know what I'm talking about. Just like ratherwhalering said, the anchovies shed scales like CRAZY, plus they are super sensitive. They die if you even look at them wrong...
dgp posted 02-26-2004 07:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
It sounds like anchovies are as sensitive as threadfin shad. I would check into a filtered recirculating bait tank like a Clearwater brand and an oxygen system. With that setup you can keep bait alive for weeks.
Rick Dewees posted 02-26-2004 09:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rick Dewees  Send Email to Rick Dewees     
All bubblers are not created equal. The best I've used for mud minnow, mullet and croaker is the 12v Power Bubbles tubed into a 48 qt igloo. It keeps the water saturated and bait alive all day, and then some, without scale loss. It is necessary to freshen the water occasionally, but works very well in most conditions.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jhtml?id=0013525013714a&type=product&cmCat=static_product

samwhaler posted 02-26-2004 10:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for samwhaler  Send Email to samwhaler     
I have a 20 gallons Supper bait tank , works great. I have kept 4-5 dozens of blue backs alive for a whole week. http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/u_gonuts/album?.dir=/b310&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/u_gonuts
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/u_gonuts
http://www.fishing-boating.com/livewellsystems/
Sam

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