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3whaler posted 11-22-2004 09:23 PM ET (US)
Has anyone heard of an OUTRAGE 25 with Whaler Drive cracking at "the spot" [later clarified to mean cracks near the fuel vent].
I have a 1989 OUTRAGE 25' WD. A friend of mine was [speculating] if the Whaler Drive made a difference [in the frequency of the appearance of the cracking].
Hope to hear something, thanks.
homey posted 11-22-2004 09:41 PM ET (US)
3whaler,
First, welcome to the board, there is a wealth of information on this forum. I also have a 25 Outrage with whalerdrive but, I'm not sure what you are referring to? "The spot"? stress cracks? Please be more specific and I'll try to respond the best I can. Thanks, Homey.
Tom W Clark posted 11-22-2004 09:41 PM ET (US)
3whale,
I am not sure what you are referring to.
If it is the well known crack at the fuel vent, this has been discussed several times here on the forum. I do not think this problem is limited to Whaler Drive equipped 25-foot hulls, though the added length and leverage the weight of the motors has on a Whaler Drive equipped hull may lead a higher percentage of those hulls developing this problem.
If you are referring to cracks in the Whaler Drive itself, I have seen a Revenge 25 Whaler Drive that has its Whaler Drive replaced by Whaler at no cost even though the hull was out of warranty.
The repair of the former problem has been addressed by Whaler in a repair bulletin. It involves quite a bit of work on the hull and amounts to a high-tech band-aid. Joe Orlando in Kemah, TX has a lot of experience with this repair. I has been reported the fix may cost $3,000 to $4,000.
3whaler posted 11-22-2004 09:47 PM ET (US)
Sorry for not being clear. I am referring to the hull cracking at the fuel vent, and I have never heard of this happening to a hull with a Whaler Drive.
best posted 11-23-2004 09:23 PM ET (US)
I too have a very big interest it the cracking hull. If there is any-one who has first hand knowledge I would be very interested as I just purchased a 1988 25-foot hull with Whaler Drive. Thank you.
highspeed_jd posted 11-23-2004 09:35 PM ET (US)
Chris,
Les and Chance never had this problem and they fished that boat hard for a few years. I honestly wouldn't worry about it. You have used that boat for years, and the cracks should have shown up by now if they were going to.
3whaler posted 11-26-2004 10:13 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the input. Still would like some more, if someone out there can help.
Chris
John from Madison CT posted 11-27-2004 08:05 AM ET (US)
FWIW, my Whaler Drive (on a 22' Outrage) has some gelcoat Stress cracks, but no worse.
jimh posted 11-27-2004 08:49 AM ET (US)
[Administrative post.]
Fishcop posted 11-27-2004 12:38 PM ET (US)
My 1987 25' Outrage with an Armstrong bracket has the cracks around the fuel vent on the port side. The cracks start near the top of the gunwale and spread down to the outboard side of the boat. Boston Whaler has a repair for this that I sent to Tom W. Clark and maybe posted somewhere on this site.
Our best guess is that with the added length of a bracket and in my case a forward cuddy, can cause this situation under specific circumstances.
I have not made the repair as the cracks have stopped and not progressed with additional use.
Hope this helps.
Andy
highspeed_jd posted 12-12-2004 10:55 AM ET (US)
Does anyone know how much it would cost to fix the cracks?
jimh posted 12-12-2004 10:59 AM ET (US)
Tom W. Clark knows. He wrote (above):
"I has been reported the fix may cost $3,000 to $4,000."
highspeed_jd posted 12-12-2004 11:35 AM ET (US)
thank ya Jimbo!
highspeed_jd posted 12-14-2004 10:05 AM ET (US)
Would Whaler have to fix this?
chance posted 12-27-2004 03:34 PM ET (US)
"Blue 'N Brew" with whaler drive never had a problem, even though we added a 50 gallon fuel tank under the console and carried a 320 ssi in the bow.
"Ole Big" with whaler drive never had a problem.
"Mauldeen" without a whaler drive had the same 50 gallon tank and cooler set-up and it did crack along side about 7 years ago. Whaler factory did do the repairs under warranty.
"Houdini" without a whaler drive and no extra fuel tank did crack along side about 3 years ago. He had the work performed in Galveston, because Whaler would no longer do the work.
I would think that the Whaler drive models (since longer) would be more susceptible to cracking midship, but that is opposite in the four I listed here.
Chance
highspeed_jd posted 12-27-2004 03:51 PM ET (US)
Hey Chance, your website ain't workin'.
chance posted 12-27-2004 04:05 PM ET (US)
Should work now.
Chance

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Author	Topic: Hull Cracks on 25-foot Hull with Whaler Drive
3whaler	posted 11-22-2004 09:23 PM ET (US) Has anyone heard of an OUTRAGE 25 with Whaler Drive cracking at "the spot" [later clarified to mean cracks near the fuel vent]. I have a 1989 OUTRAGE 25' WD. A friend of mine was [speculating] if the Whaler Drive made a difference [in the frequency of the appearance of the cracking]. Hope to hear something, thanks.
homey	posted 11-22-2004 09:41 PM ET (US) 3whaler, First, welcome to the board, there is a wealth of information on this forum. I also have a 25 Outrage with whalerdrive but, I'm not sure what you are referring to? "The spot"? stress cracks? Please be more specific and I'll try to respond the best I can. Thanks, Homey.
Tom W Clark	posted 11-22-2004 09:41 PM ET (US) 3whale, I am not sure what you are referring to. If it is the well known crack at the fuel vent, this has been discussed several times here on the forum. I do not think this problem is limited to Whaler Drive equipped 25-foot hulls, though the added length and leverage the weight of the motors has on a Whaler Drive equipped hull may lead a higher percentage of those hulls developing this problem. If you are referring to cracks in the Whaler Drive itself, I have seen a Revenge 25 Whaler Drive that has its Whaler Drive replaced by Whaler at no cost even though the hull was out of warranty. The repair of the former problem has been addressed by Whaler in a repair bulletin. It involves quite a bit of work on the hull and amounts to a high-tech band-aid. Joe Orlando in Kemah, TX has a lot of experience with this repair. I has been reported the fix may cost $3,000 to $4,000.
3whaler	posted 11-22-2004 09:47 PM ET (US) Sorry for not being clear. I am referring to the hull cracking at the fuel vent, and I have never heard of this happening to a hull with a Whaler Drive.
best	posted 11-23-2004 09:23 PM ET (US) I too have a very big interest it the cracking hull. If there is any-one who has first hand knowledge I would be very interested as I just purchased a 1988 25-foot hull with Whaler Drive. Thank you.
highspeed_jd	posted 11-23-2004 09:35 PM ET (US) Chris, Les and Chance never had this problem and they fished that boat hard for a few years. I honestly wouldn't worry about it. You have used that boat for years, and the cracks should have shown up by now if they were going to.
3whaler	posted 11-26-2004 10:13 PM ET (US) Thanks for the input. Still would like some more, if someone out there can help. Chris
John from Madison CT	posted 11-27-2004 08:05 AM ET (US) FWIW, my Whaler Drive (on a 22' Outrage) has some gelcoat Stress cracks, but no worse.
jimh	posted 11-27-2004 08:49 AM ET (US) [Administrative post.]
Fishcop	posted 11-27-2004 12:38 PM ET (US) My 1987 25' Outrage with an Armstrong bracket has the cracks around the fuel vent on the port side. The cracks start near the top of the gunwale and spread down to the outboard side of the boat. Boston Whaler has a repair for this that I sent to Tom W. Clark and maybe posted somewhere on this site. Our best guess is that with the added length of a bracket and in my case a forward cuddy, can cause this situation under specific circumstances. I have not made the repair as the cracks have stopped and not progressed with additional use. Hope this helps. Andy
highspeed_jd	posted 12-12-2004 10:55 AM ET (US) Does anyone know how much it would cost to fix the cracks?
jimh	posted 12-12-2004 10:59 AM ET (US) Tom W. Clark knows. He wrote (above): "I has been reported the fix may cost $3,000 to $4,000."
highspeed_jd	posted 12-12-2004 11:35 AM ET (US) thank ya Jimbo!
highspeed_jd	posted 12-14-2004 10:05 AM ET (US) Would Whaler have to fix this?
chance	posted 12-27-2004 03:34 PM ET (US) "Blue 'N Brew" with whaler drive never had a problem, even though we added a 50 gallon fuel tank under the console and carried a 320 ssi in the bow. "Ole Big" with whaler drive never had a problem. "Mauldeen" without a whaler drive had the same 50 gallon tank and cooler set-up and it did crack along side about 7 years ago. Whaler factory did do the repairs under warranty. "Houdini" without a whaler drive and no extra fuel tank did crack along side about 3 years ago. He had the work performed in Galveston, because Whaler would no longer do the work. I would think that the Whaler drive models (since longer) would be more susceptible to cracking midship, but that is opposite in the four I listed here. Chance
highspeed_jd	posted 12-27-2004 03:51 PM ET (US) Hey Chance, your website ain't workin'.
chance	posted 12-27-2004 04:05 PM ET (US) Should work now. Chance