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Chuck Tribolet posted 03-20-2007 01:42 AM ET (US)   Profile for Chuck Tribolet   Send Email to Chuck Tribolet  
http://cbs5.com/local/local_story_078193158.html
got the basic facts right.

He's a very good friend of mine. We dive off each other's
whalers every few weeks, and have done several runs out
to way offshore sites together. He's been an occasional
poster here.

I gotta commend the CG. They've put a lot of resource on this,
and what's really amazing was that they had connected Kawika
to me (I still haven't figured out how, but I suspect somebody
was real good with Google) by the predawn hours on Sunday. I
was able to give them a good description of his boat, call
sign, MMSI, registration numbers. They were able to locate
the boat a few hours later.

He's in a good drysuit, young, smart, and very fit, but it's
been over 55 hours now.


Chuck

erik selis posted 03-20-2007 02:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
Chuck, is this the gentleman with the 170 Montauk that you often refer to?
I hope he's alive and safe. I wonder what could have happened as he seems to be very experienced and well prepared.

Erik

towboater posted 03-20-2007 02:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Chuck, Im very sorry to read this about your friend but there is still plenty of hope.
I dont understand some things. Did he take tanks & plan to dive alone in the open sea?

mk

Chuck Tribolet posted 03-20-2007 03:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Yes, it's the guy with the 170 Montauk I refer to. He's a
good friend of mine and Adm. Linda (they work for the same
company).

Yes, he took tanks and planned to dive a site about five
miles offshore. He's a very skilled diver. Many more
experienced divers will dive alone, including me, though I
prefer a good buddy, and am glad to have one as my GF.

Yes, there's still a chance. A fading chance if he's still
in the water, a better chance if he made it to shore. There
are no real roads in that area, it's called "the Lost Coast",
and he'd have a long hike if he did kick to the beach, which
is not out of the realm of possibility.


Chuck

Chuck Tribolet posted 03-20-2007 07:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
The Eureka paper had an article this morning:
http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?ArticleID=21824


Chuck

elaelap posted 03-20-2007 08:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
What a crappy way to wake up this morning, Chuck. I feel that I know Kawika a little because of your many references about him at this website over the years. I just read his impressive bio in the Eureka paper. All we can do now is hope, I guess. Damn.

Tony

blackdog54 posted 03-20-2007 09:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
Chuck-

I just went to Kawika's website, what beauty. Keep hope.

capnrik posted 03-20-2007 10:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for capnrik  Send Email to capnrik     
Prayers sent from Texas, Chuck.
Dan posted 03-20-2007 10:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
Let us know what happens. His photos are amazing.
poker13 posted 03-20-2007 10:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for poker13    
Absolutely beautiful photography. I hope he's OK.
Bella con23 posted 03-20-2007 10:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bella con23  Send Email to Bella con23     
Prayers sent from Central Jersey, Chuck.
Chuck Tribolet posted 03-20-2007 10:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
The amazing thing about Kawika's photography is that he's
completely self-taught and has only owned a camera (any
camera) for a couple years.

I just found out that when they picked up his boat yesterday,
it was half-swamped. The guy said "Can't sink a Boston Whaler".


Chuck

fishinchips posted 03-20-2007 10:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for fishinchips  Send Email to fishinchips     
Kawika is missing ! I hope he is ok. I am leary up there because of big white sharks.
Another diver got killed a couple of years ago up north diving for abs.

Ken

Sal A posted 03-20-2007 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
I just spent some time visiting his site. It is quite beautiful. I enjoyed reading his FAQ section, and its Q & A format gives a glimpse of his personality. We pray for him.
Sal DiMercurio posted 03-20-2007 12:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal DiMercurio  Send Email to Sal DiMercurio     
It's not the time of year for great whites, but blues can get pretty mean to.
My very close friend Randy Fry was cut in half by a GW.
Only found from his waist down [ legs ] & his head washed up 3 weeks later.
If there were any Humbolt squid in the area, they are meaner than any shark, & attack like a pack of wolves.
Sure hope your buddy is ok, but the outlook looks pretty bleak.
Sorry
Yiddil posted 03-20-2007 01:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
I am startled and saddened to hear this abd news but hope against hope that he will be found safe...........

I used to teach underwater photog. in the warm waters of Panama...can't imagine doing that in cold water....

Harty guy!..............

Ive got to say also that if you go diving alone, warm or cold water, your asking for trouble, I dont care how many dives you have, warm or cold water whatever...One of the first things you learn at PADI is that!You never go alone........and they dont even fill your tanks if your not certified, and the certification courses make it plain you dont dive alone...........

I hope in this case He makes it ....just upset to hear a diver is lost and he went out by himself...thats all....

Saying a prayer they find him oky doky!

erik selis posted 03-20-2007 01:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
I just had a look at his photographs. They are absolutely awesome. Let's hope they find him soon.

Erik

Liteamorn posted 03-20-2007 02:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Liteamorn  Send Email to Liteamorn     
I'm keeping my hopes high , his art is amazing.
Ed
Mardav posted 03-20-2007 03:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mardav  Send Email to Mardav     
Heartfelt prayers for our missing member. 40 years diving, I never go alone.

Marc

jimh posted 03-20-2007 07:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The website often mentioned above is

http://www.coldwaterimages.com/

I hope for the best for this fellow. Miracles can happen.

InHerNet posted 03-20-2007 07:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for InHerNet  Send Email to InHerNet     
He possesses an amazing talent and appears to be a fit individual. After reading about him on his website, I can only assume he is a survivor unless something else caused him problems while diving. Hope they find him soon. My prayers are for him and his love ones.
fishinchips posted 03-20-2007 09:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for fishinchips  Send Email to fishinchips     
Sal,
You think humbolt squid come that close in ?
and usually blues are offshore sharks aren't they ?

I wouldn't think that kawika would dive that far out from shore, but I don't know.

ken

Chuck Tribolet posted 03-20-2007 10:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
The site was about 5 nm offshore, the anchor was in a bit
over 100', and there were some shallower sites around.
Humboldt squid like deeper water, and turn up when the water
is warm, and it's been plenty cold (48-49F in Monterey on the
bottom, and this was way north).

And yes, blues are offshore, and also warm water, and not
that aggressive. Kawika and I have chummed them up and tried
to take pictures (they didn't like us in the water and split,
came back as soon as we got out).

All the indications are that the currents were really ripping
there, most likely Kawika got separated from the boat.
There's a good deal of evidence that he dove to unstick an
anchor (his camera was on the boat).

I'm very bummed.

There's a lot of discussion on
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ba_diving/

Chuck

taypow1 posted 03-20-2007 11:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for taypow1  Send Email to taypow1     
Chuck,
Awsome website.
Our prayers are with you.
Jock and Patsy
Fishcop posted 03-20-2007 11:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Fishcop  Send Email to Fishcop     
Chuck,

I am so sorry to hear of your friends situation. I know that area well, and Punta Gorda is very unforgiving. I also know the Men and Women of the USCG in that area (Noyo and Eureka) and they are the best at what they do.

I hope for the best and send our thoughts and prayers to Kawika and his family and friends.

Please keep us updated as you are able.

Andy

zpeed7 posted 03-20-2007 11:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for zpeed7  Send Email to zpeed7     
Wow, that's the second one I've read about for the same weekend. There was another fisherman lost in NE Florida. Here's a link.

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=141021&start=1& highlight=sad&highlightmode=1

Very sad. Prayers sent.

GM

twernst10 posted 03-21-2007 07:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for twernst10  Send Email to twernst10     
Chuck,
I hope that your friend is found quickly and well. As many of us know the USCG is the best at search and rescue. They will find him if they can. My prayers are with you and your friend's family.

Tim

elaelap posted 03-21-2007 08:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Our Santa Rosa newspaper has an article this morning stating that the Coast Guard has suspended its search. Very, very sad.

Tony

mikeyairtime posted 03-21-2007 08:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for mikeyairtime    
There's an interesting book called solo diving. I picked it up several years ago when I thought I was the only guy out there doing it. When sightseeing a diving partner is fairly unobtrusive. For hardcore hunting or photography it's a little different. We're praying for Kakika and his family.
davej14 posted 03-21-2007 09:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for davej14  Send Email to davej14     
Those are terrific images, I pray that Kawika has a chance to continue his work.
bigjohn1 posted 03-21-2007 04:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigjohn1  Send Email to bigjohn1     
Very sad news. Chuck, my thoughts and prayers are with you and Linda as well as his family.
Yiddil posted 03-21-2007 04:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Yiddil  Send Email to Yiddil     
Anything new? I hope they found him by now and alive and well...............Henry
Chuck Tribolet posted 03-21-2007 05:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
No real news. There were no recent pictures in his camera.

That's about it.

;-(


Chuck

blackdog54 posted 03-21-2007 06:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
Chuck-

First of all, I just can't get this man out of my mind. His website has so many levels of beauty & intimacy.

So, if there were no recent photos, and his anchor was down, he got there, dropped anchor, readied for his dive and.....?

There have been a rash of odd and tragic things in the past few weeks. I keep hoping that this will be the one happy ending.

My brother's closet friend from grade school through college, 38 years old, was playing softball last week, slid into base, got a surface abrasion on the ankle. Did not think much about it. 3 nights later he went to the ER for pain. They put him on antibiotics as it looked infected. He got out of bed the next morning and coded in front of his wife and 3 kids (under age 9). He died that night in renal failure due to septicemia.

Kawika is in my thoughts, wherever he is.

Chuck Tribolet posted 03-21-2007 08:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
His hook was deeper (a bit over 100') than he would normally
set it. It could be that he was aiming for a high spot up
current and missed, or that he hit the high spot, and it
eventually pulled off, or he hit the high spot, and it was
stuck there, and when he reset it, he lost it. Net:
we don't know.


Chuck

minitauk85 posted 03-21-2007 08:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for minitauk85  Send Email to minitauk85     
Chuck- I am curious if you could educate me on what the techniques and the protocols are for diving solo. What sort of safety backups might your friend have used. Drift dive? Tether to the boat? You mentioned his anchor being set. Would he have done this himself, or could it have dragged and caught later? I was always taught to never dive alone, and never lose sight of your dive buddy. What sort of precautions/procedures would he have taken to keep from drifting too far from his boat? I hope things turn out right for your buddy, great photos and even better adventures! -k
andygere posted 03-21-2007 08:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Chuck,
I just returned from a trip and saw this news. Nancy and I are praying that your friend Kawika is found alive.
David Pendleton posted 03-21-2007 09:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
What a tragic, sad story.

Dry suit or not, it's been four days now and that's a long time to go without fresh water. Have they given up searching entirely?

PeteB88 posted 03-21-2007 10:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for PeteB88  Send Email to PeteB88     
Not another one - best to you all, fam and friends. I am going to hook up that kill switch and take extra precautions. I found another river guide knife like the one I used to use which will be on PFD. Need best idea for PFD, not sure about SOSpenders.

Very sad to hear about anything like this.

towboater posted 03-22-2007 12:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Chuck, Ive been trying to follow the Yahoo Kawika Search Divers Forum but I cant seem to separate one topic from....

Seems like one of the Search Divers reported one strand of the anchor rope had parted not too far from the anchor yesterday. Can you confirm this?

Maybe the anchor...this broken strand...is a big key to what happened?

What was the total length of the anchor rope in the water when they found the boat?

You may know better than anyone the relevance of the length of his anchor rope in that area taking all things into consideration.
(chain, size of anchor, Kawika's usual scope...does he tend to use minimal scope or plenty?)
Are you suprised his boat was not hooked up solid?

Sure, it's likely the strand parted later when the boat was drifting and the anchor suddenly hooked up hard but the fact it was drifting, his camera in the boat has me a little perplexed.

I still have hope.

mk

Chuck Tribolet posted 03-22-2007 07:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
First some comments on solo diving. The two most common
things that kill divers are panic, and diving beyond their
training, skills, and experience. A good example of panic
killing occurred at Pt. Lobos a couple of summers ago. At
the very beginning of the dive, with a full tank, a diver
became entangled in kelp. She panicked, spit out her
regulator (not uncommon in a panicked diver) and just flailed
around. She tore the mask off one of her two buddies and
died. I good example of lack of training occurred this week
in Florida. Three divers died penetrating the wreck of the
Spiegel Grove. They were certainly doing it wrong - single
tanks, no reel of line to trail behind them to show the way
out.

So, as in all diving, safety lies in staying out of those
parts of the envelope.

In Kawika's case, the most likely scenario is that he was
swept away by strong currents and couldn't get back to the
boat. I can't think of anybody more
capable of swimming against those currents than he. If there
was another diver in the water, the CG would have been looking
for two missing divers. The mistake was not having someone
in the boat who could drive the boat to follow their bubbles.
He did carry a small pony bottle as a backup air supply.

There are several possibilities about the anchor. It was
certainly deeper than was his normal habit. He may have
dropped it on a high spot upcurrent and missed because of the
current. It may have pulled off of the high spot. Dunno.

The fraying was due to abrasion over two days in rough
water. Charlie Notthoff, a commercial diver who dove on
the anchor on Monday said he had a LOT of scope out, and
that was his habit. Kawika carried 20' of chain and
400' (maybe more) of line and about six pound Danforth.

There's no evidence the boat drifted. And there's negative
evidence -- when you drift with a hanging anchor, and the
anchor finally catches, you end up short-scoped, and he
wasn't.


Chuck

ConnorEl posted 03-22-2007 10:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for ConnorEl  Send Email to ConnorEl     
Chuck,

First, I’m very sorry to hear about your friend. What a tragedy. How sad.

Second, I completely defer to you with respect to the things that place a diver most at risk. I was once open water certified but that was years ago and wouldn’t claim any expertise.

But . . . from what I can recall, those guys in FL were supposedly well trained. I think that I read that they were certified to dive on wrecks and “technical” divers. So . . . it seems that perhaps in their case it wasn’t a lack of training as much as a lack of good judgment. And this might be a third category for increased diving risk. Then again, I suppose that anyone “diving beyond their training, skills, and experience” is using poor judgment.

Anyway, I’m so sad to hear of this event. Best wishes to you and all who love Kawika.

JayR posted 03-22-2007 02:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
If I recall correctly, the #1 safety rule I learned back in the late 70's was to NEVER dive alone....

My thoughts are with him and his family.

DaveH posted 03-22-2007 04:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for DaveH  Send Email to DaveH     
Chuck:
I just read this thread and wanted to express that I am saddened by the news. I lost a friend this past week off Sebastian Inlet here in Florida. What a terrible week for us all.

I look forward to better times...DaveH out.

Ron1959 posted 03-22-2007 10:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ron1959  Send Email to Ron1959     
Chuck, I am not a frequent poster here, but have been a longtime BW fan.

So very sorry to hear about your pal. Prayers sent for him, his family and you.

gtxhal posted 03-23-2007 01:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for gtxhal  Send Email to gtxhal     
very sad. my thoughts are with his family and friends who must deal with his loss.

<sigh>

hal

bretm1 posted 03-23-2007 07:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for bretm1  Send Email to bretm1     
Amazing images on his website. Thoughts and prayers from Buzzards Bay, Ma.
roloaddict posted 03-24-2007 12:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for roloaddict  Send Email to roloaddict     
Best wishes and hopes from Shelton,WA. Sometimes the highest rewards in life demand the highest risk. I hope he returns.

John

17 bodega posted 03-24-2007 02:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for 17 bodega  Send Email to 17 bodega     
I am moved by this individual and his work and love for the sea.
DeeVee posted 03-24-2007 09:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for DeeVee  Send Email to DeeVee     
Chuck,

I am very sorry to of your missing friend. My thoughts are with his family.

Doug
Shelton, WA

blackdog54 posted 03-25-2007 09:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
Well, I am guessing that no news, is, in fact, bad news.

I can not shake this and I do not know the man, but I guess it is a reminder of the fragile nature of our existence.

My deepest thoughts are with those who were touched by Kawika.

dburton posted 03-25-2007 10:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for dburton  Send Email to dburton     
Chuck,

I've waited to post hoping that your friend Kawika would be found. I've been praying for him since your first post. I am sorry for your loss and know that the ocean has lost a friend as well.

My best,

Doug

jsgrise posted 03-26-2007 12:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for jsgrise  Send Email to jsgrise     
Chuck,

I'm really sorry for your friend. That kind of thing should just not happen. It's really sad that it has to end that way. But I'd like to send a message to all of us, let's all learn about this tragedy, How many time have you been at sea without wearing a PFD thinking that everything is going to be fine or without using you kill switch? well I don't know about you, but I've been several times. But I can assure you that I'll think vigorously about it before leaving the dock for the next fishing trip.

Rest in peace Kawika,

JS

nevada posted 03-27-2007 07:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for nevada  Send Email to nevada     
Chuck,

I am truly sorry for Kawika’s family and friends. I am also sorry for the rest of us who spend our time on the surface, we have lost a person who had a phenomenal gift in the ability to show us what lives below the surface. Thank you for sharing the link to his website. I hope that the website continues on as a tribute to his work.

Joe

Chuck Tribolet posted 03-27-2007 11:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Another friend of his and I will make sure his website
lives on.

There is stuff to learn here. Just because you got away with
it yesterday doesn't mean it will be OK today. Neptune can
be an SOB at times.

There's a really good article in this morning's Eureka Reporter:
http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?ArticleID=22093


Chuck

sr posted 03-28-2007 12:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for sr  Send Email to sr     
Would this be our Chuck?
http://www.coldwaterimages.com/chuck0.html
If this turns out bad, the guy went out doing what he loved.
17 bodega posted 03-28-2007 11:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for 17 bodega  Send Email to 17 bodega     
The only thing I don't see an explanation for is the swamped boat. Is there an explanation of how the water got there? All reports indicate the seas were calm.
towboater posted 03-29-2007 03:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Bodega.
Wouldnt a Montauk flush water out the stern if it took a freak wave over the bow while at anchor?

Kawika certainly was a smart Man, hell of a guy.
I feel bad for Chuck.
It's perplexing.
I drag salvage logs and stuff around tied to 1/2" poly with my Tug all the time...I know the power it takes just to part one strand. Tons of power. 200 ft of anchor line would absorb a LOT of shock, I feel like that length would hold substantially more than the resistance of a Montauk in pretty rough surf.

Something very extraordinary happened in a very extraordinary area.
My hunch is that if he had been diving with someone else, we might be missing two divers.

prayers.

mk

Chuck Tribolet posted 03-29-2007 07:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
If it got a lot of water in, some would go out over the stern.
With the plug in (and Kawika did run with the plug in), if
there were just some water (say, 6") it would stay in the
boat.

Kawika's anchor line was three-strand nylon, 7/16" I think
(maybe 3/8). The strand had parted due to abrasion, not
tension.


Chuck

Sheila posted 03-29-2007 08:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sheila  Send Email to Sheila     
I've been away from the forum for a few weeks.
What tragic news to find.

Chuck, I am so, so sorry.

njwhaler posted 03-29-2007 12:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for njwhaler  Send Email to njwhaler     
Chuck,

I am so sorry to read about your friend. His pictures are beautiful.

The Chesapeake Explorer posted 03-29-2007 09:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for The Chesapeake Explorer  Send Email to The Chesapeake Explorer     
A very talented person all around. I liked the self portrait of him and the seal. Im sure that was a favorite of his. Truly sorry to hear about this.
17 bodega posted 03-30-2007 12:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for 17 bodega  Send Email to 17 bodega     
that's interesting info towboater, and I think it serves Kawika well to try to piece together what happened in this situation. On the other hand, a bunch of speculation in many different directions may not be fruitful, but productive discussion nonetheless. One of the great assets of this website is the ability to share quality information to make us all safer on the water.

njwhaler posted 03-30-2007 10:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for njwhaler  Send Email to njwhaler     
This event really makes you think about your own safety. How many of us are out all alone? I know that I fish alone quite often and I don't always have a life jacket on. I am sure the diver here in question was extremely experienced. That is obvious from seeing the web site. However, we all getlazy with out own safety. I am not a diver at all, so someone please tell me what the proper method of safety is when diving alone? Should you have a leash which ties you to the boat?
Chuck Tribolet posted 03-30-2007 06:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
No, you don't tether.

The most important thing is to know when and where to NOT
dive solo. I prefer to dive with a GOOD buddy, but I do dive solo
a bit when Adm. Linda is off on her bike or it's end of quarter
and she has to work the weekend, and my other buddies are off
doing something else. But I pick my days and places. If you
use the ski run grading system, I sure wouldn't dive a double
black diamond site solo even on a good day. And if it's
rock and roll, or the currents blowing hard, not even the
easy sites.

The site where Kawika went missing is beyond double black
diamond. As a ski slope, it would show up in the first
scene of an extreme skiing movie.

The key thing on those sites is to have someone in the boat
that can drive it and follow your bubbles, and a defined
"call the Coasties" time. The area to be searched grows as
the square of the elapsed time.


Chuck

Binkie posted 03-30-2007 07:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkie  Send Email to Binkie     
Chuck
I hope your not encouraging divers that its all right to dive solo, just because you don`t mind taking unnecessary risks with your own life. I was taught to dive with a buddy, and never dove alone. When you become comfortable with an inherently dangerous sport, some people take chances, and those are the ones that usually make the papers. Same with rock climbing, flying, motor sports racing, motorcycle riding, and other risky hobbies. Sorry about your buddy.

Rich

placerville posted 04-01-2007 03:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for placerville  Send Email to placerville     
Chuck,
Unlike many of the members here that have pounded home the point that you should "never dive alone", I wholeheartedly
agree to your philosophy that it's more important to know when and where NOT to dive solo. There are many inherently risky activities that we get enjoyment from. To limit ourselves to participating in our passions only when you have another body along will cause you to miss out on a lot.
We all have to make our own decisions regarding the risk we're willing to take. I think it's super important to understand those risks, understand your capabilities and accept responsibility for your actions.
I don't think anyone here should be criticizing Kawika for doing what he loved in the manner he chose.
Never having met Kawika, I'm never the less moved by him
Matt
WT posted 04-01-2007 12:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
FYI

Kawiki is on the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle this morning.

I don't know if you have to register in order to see this story, if not perhaps you can search under title "Legacy Of The Deep".

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/04/01/ MNGMROVNMM1.DTL

Warren

Perry posted 04-01-2007 01:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Perry  Send Email to Perry     
Great article in the Chronicle. It says his Mom lives in Hawaii so that explains his Hawaiian name; Kawika means David. It's sad that his young life was cut short. May he rest in peace.
gtxhal posted 04-01-2007 03:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for gtxhal  Send Email to gtxhal     
thx for the link to the very good article.

hal

FRSam posted 04-01-2007 05:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for FRSam  Send Email to FRSam     
There's nothing quite like diving off the north coast of California.

I've been up and down the Pacific Coast HWY a number of times. It's a beautiful drive - there's no question about that. But it wasn't until I started diving that I realized how much we were all missing just being able to look over the surface. What was beneath the surface was absolutely breath taking - a whole other world.

I can see where Kawika was drawn to the ocean - the diversity and beauty is beyond belief. To be able to capture it with a camera the way Kawika did is a true gift.

I can understand why Kawika dove alone If you play it to safe you'll probably never leave home plate and if you do it's only to first base. Kawika seemed like he type of person who was willing to take a well thought out risk and did. Unfortunately it just wasn't his day and I'm sure it wasn't without a fight that he gave up his life.

It's a sad day when you lose someone like Kawika but I can't help but admire him for following his dream - he certainly had one very creative ride here on the planet Earth.

Pete

Chuck Tribolet posted 04-01-2007 07:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Actually, the fact that Kawika's mom lives in Hawaii is
independent of his name. Both his mom and dad are mainlanders.


Chuck

David Pendleton posted 04-01-2007 09:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
The first time I saw Kawika's name on CW, I posted a message asking him to contact me. My godparents are Hawaiian and called me Kawika and I wanted to know about his name. I don't encounter it too often.

I found the messages in my archive folder and it made me laugh again...

From: Kawika Chetron [mailto:kawika@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 12:22
To: davepen@tcq.net
Subject: whaler board request

you called?

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From: David Pendleton [mailto:davepen@tcq.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 17:27
To: 'Kawika Chetron'
Subject: RE: whaler board request

A weird question, perhaps, but is your real name Kawika?

---

From: Kawika Chetron [mailto:kawika@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 17:36
To: davepen@tcq.net
Subject: RE: whaler board request

Well, it's not "Mr. Bat Guano". Yes, Kawika is my real name.

---

We exchanged a couple of more messages about us both being
"haole Kawikas".

What a shame this whole thing has turned out to be. I didn't even know him, but I feel badly about his disappearance.

So long, Mr. Bat Guano.

Newtauk1 posted 04-01-2007 11:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for Newtauk1    
Do not dive alone. Do not dive solo. It is risky to be on a boat solo. One slip, one fall, one wave. Never dive alone. It is not a trendy statement, but a prediction if you do.
placerville posted 04-02-2007 03:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for placerville  Send Email to placerville     
Frsam wrote,
"I can understand why Kawika dove alone If you play it to safe you'll probably never leave home plate and if you do it's only to first base"

FRSAM, I love that statement. I would imagine it captures
Kawika's spirit beautifully.
To those who keep preaching to never do anything alone, I think that is a bit condescending. And sounding alot like
my mother.
Matt

Binkie posted 04-02-2007 07:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for Binkie  Send Email to Binkie     
Diving alone goes against common sense, and any diver knows this. Eventually it will probably cost you, and also the taxpayer`s dollars searching for you. Probably the ones that dive alone don`t wear seatbelts either.
RocketMan posted 04-02-2007 08:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for RocketMan  Send Email to RocketMan     
I've been on about a hundred dives over the years on various dive boats including my own or with friends and coworkers. It occurred to me after not too many dives that most divers are just not good buddy-divers, groups don't stick together well, and safety is regularly overlooked. This is especially true during lobster season, wreck diving, or with a strong current.

Unoffically, here in Florida it seems that you read about losing a diver on a fairly regular basis, maybe a half dozen or so cases a year. In nearly all of the cases the lost diver was with other diver(s). There's an article in today's Palm Beach Post about losing a diver off Clearwater yesterday who failed to surface with his group. "Failed to surface with his group" seems to be a commonly used description of a lost diver event.

Based on that I think an experienced, lone diver is normally not significantly worse off than most divers are in a group. But in this case the described dive conditions were not normal and carried a high degree of risk.

Being successful in beating the odds say 9 times out of 10, 99 times out of 100, or even 999 times out of 1000 represent a relatively high degree of risk. Often it seems that with a string of 5, 50, or 500 consecutive successes we lull ourselves into thinking that nothing bad is going to, or can, happen and end up paying the ultimate price.

Plotman posted 04-02-2007 10:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for Plotman  Send Email to Plotman     
For the love of Pete, Binkie, get off your high horse.

A man with some pretty amazing talents is missing, and presumed dead. He died to young, a damned shame. Yes, he was diving alone. Had he had a partner, maybe he would be alive, or maybe there would be two missing. Had he not gone out that day, he would most likely be alive. Wouldof, couldof, shouldof.

Your prostletizing, or saying "I told you so" isn't going to change anything, and you aren't going to change anyone's mind here about whether they choose to dive alone. So please, give it up.

mitch13 posted 04-02-2007 11:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for mitch13  Send Email to mitch13     
Binkie, I've been scuba diving since 1953. I don't know how may dives I have made, but for about seven years I dove almost every day off my own boat , mostly by myself. sometimes I ran a 31' Bertram dive boat and if everything looked OK I dove while the group was down. Like Plotman said, there are not many divers that make good partners, someone you would bet your life on. And yes, I wear a seat belt when I drive a car, a Mustang self inflating vest when I'm out in my whaler, a helmet when I ride a motorcycle and when I was flying I wore a helmet, shoulder harness and parachute.
I think it's a damn shame that such a talented and experiencd person like Kawika should have to go but we will probably never know if a dive partner would have helped him or not.
mitch13 posted 04-02-2007 11:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for mitch13  Send Email to mitch13     
Sorry, Plotman, that was Rocketman I quoted.
Binkie posted 04-02-2007 12:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkie  Send Email to Binkie     
No offense against Kawika, its very sad he had his accident, and no one knows whether a buddy could have saved him, I was never an expert diver, so I always took precautions. If you dive off a head boat, and are alone, probably no one will be really be checking on you much anyway. When we used to lobster in the keys, with friends, it was generally every person for themselves, but lobstering is generally done in shallow water in the keys anyway, under 20 ft.
When I take my raceboat out for testing, I never go alone. I always have at least a person on the beach with a cell phone, although It`s better to have a chase boat or an other race boat with me. If I had a crash, I wouldn`t want to be bobbing up and down in my lifejacket , and maybe injured, hoping someone would come along and find me.
Sorry for preaching about safety, you all can do as you please, but thats just the way I do it.

Rich

elaelap posted 04-02-2007 01:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
I cruise and fish alone more than half the time I go out, and I'm planning an extensive single-handed blue water sailboat cruise. I've sailed alone for literally hundreds of days along the southern California coast and in San Francisco Bay. I used to surf alone when I was young, hitting the beach in the pre-dawn morning and watching the sun rise from my board. I don't have much experience diving with scuba gear--never had the skill or inclination to do that without a 'buddy'--but I've skin-dived all over the world, often alone or with friends/family on shore while I've snorkled around on reefs a quarter of a mile or more away. When I was an undergraduate at UC Berkeley, I went alone on a four-day 'quest'--a solo scramble, mostly off-trail including low-intensity rock-climbing, in the Sierra Nevada mountains near Yosemite, and I've hiked and climbed alone in the Alps near Chamonix. Hell, I even enjoy driving alone on occasion, regularly down and back to Los Angeles from Sonoma County, and once thirty years or so ago alone from Pennsylvania cross country to Berkeley.

Yeah, we're continually told by unnamed 'authorities' that participating in certain activities alone is dangerous and should be avoided at all costs. Well, one of the costs of avoiding solo adventures in the name of security is the loss of one's sense of self, of independence, of personal discovery--the loss of those incredibly important special contemplative times that can only be experienced and enjoyed alone. In our busy, complicated, industrialized and over-populated world, especially for those of us living and working in an urban setting, solo undertakings are truly therapeutic, and IMO absolutely necessary (in varying degrees according to one's personality) to maintain one's balance and sanity.

We come into existence alone and we leave for our final cruise single-handed. Kawika was living life with an intensity very few experience, and he had creative skills which allow all of us to share his vitality, his life-energy, in a small degree. From all accounts (and undeniably demonstrated by his amazing photography) he had a high degree of skill as a diver. That he took risks is also undeniable, but life without some degree of risk is actually lifelessness, cowardess, a life unlived in fear. His work, and the admiration of those who knew him personally and those who, like me, knew him only through his work and from stories about him from his friends, will stand as a memorial to a man who truly lived. Vale, Kawika!

Tony

elaelap posted 04-02-2007 02:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
I probably meant to say "cowardice" rather than "cowardess."
Binkie posted 04-02-2007 03:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkie  Send Email to Binkie     
Hey Mitch, Did Delta or any of the other carriers actually let you on an airplane wearing a parachute and helmet? That`d be pretty cool, but not much of a show of confidence, must of been many years ago.
Tony, I love to fish alone, I don`t think thats dangerous at all, I never even thought about wearing a life jacket but your probably better off if you wear one, one of the suspender type that don`t inhibit movement. I like to drive alone on long trips too, I don`t like to go to bed alone though ;-).

Rich

gwenieone posted 04-02-2007 06:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for gwenieone  Send Email to gwenieone     
So very well said. Thank you Tony
gwenieone
mitch13 posted 04-02-2007 07:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for mitch13  Send Email to mitch13     
No, Binkie, I had to fly the damn things myself.
JOHN W MAYO posted 04-08-2007 10:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for JOHN W MAYO  Send Email to JOHN W MAYO     
Chuck, sorry to hear about your frind.
I dive also from my whaler, I usually never dive by myself, but I have done it several times and after reading your post, I am considering taking a Personal Locator Beacon, putting it in a Pelican case, both I already have and attaching it to a dive flag that would be floating in the water pulled by a line with me. I know this would not work in all dive situations, but I think it would work in many situations if something happened to you being unable to get back to you whaler. How does this idea seem to you?


Chuck Tribolet posted 04-09-2007 04:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Well, that certainly wouldn't work in California kelp beds. ;-)
I've towed a buoy a few times because I was going to mark
something. It's work.

I'd be looking for a way to take the PLB with me. I vaguely
recall one that's depth rated, and OMS has a canister that
would work if it's the right size. And one of my dive buddies
is a machinist who could make up a cannister (he makes HID
lights on the side).


Chuck

JOHN W MAYO posted 04-09-2007 09:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for JOHN W MAYO  Send Email to JOHN W MAYO     
Thanks Chuck, that enclosed case is a much better idea you have for the PLB. We can try to do things safe as we can, and maybe we often learn from others experiences and mistakes, but we take risk doing what we enjoy.
elaelap posted 04-11-2007 10:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
The Mendocino coast took two more lives this past week: a scuba diver died of an apparent heart attack and a fisherman was swept off the rocks and drowned yesterday. The Pacific Ocean off northern California is a dangerous place, and when things go wrong they go wrong swiftly out here, especially because of the year-round low water temperature (49 degrees on salmon opening day this past Saturday).

This doesn't keep us away, but tragedies like the loss of Kawika underscore the need for even the most skilled and experienced to be extra cautious. I fish alone about half the time I go out, and I shiver when I think about the times I've slipped or stumbled while moving about my boat or while leaning over the gunwales to net or gaff a fish, and only just caught myself in time to prevent myself from going overboard. Even though I keep a GPS in one pocket and a submersible VHF in the other (most of the time!) when single-handing, they would be of dubious value to while I was thrashing around in fifty-degree water as my Whaler putted away into the fog at three knots. Hmmm, maybe I'll take up needle-point and gardening instead...after this salmon season, that is.

Tuco

Grasshopper posted 04-19-2007 05:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Grasshopper  Send Email to Grasshopper     
Chuck,
My condolences. I am sorry about your friend and diving partner. Being a retired Network Administrator with all Cisco routers and switches I understand the rigors of Cisco. I met some really good people at Cisco and your friend looks and sounds like a combination of all of them.
Good luck and peace to you and David.
elaelap posted 04-20-2007 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
And now three more:

FRI Ap 20, Santa Rosa--A man who drowned near the Point Arena lighthouse on Thursday morning was the third abalone diver to die on the Mendocino Coast in little more than 24 hours, authorities said.

(Santa Rosa Press Democrat)

The story goes on to say that three people died and two were seriously injured on the Sonoma-Mendocino coastline last year, and in 2005 six people drowned and one diver was fatally bitten by a great white shark.

And so it goes...

Tony

PeteB88 posted 04-20-2007 11:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for PeteB88  Send Email to PeteB88     
Maybe I posted this before - but this stuff reminds me of my first hike up the N side of Cape Kiwanda from the beach side- there used to be (hope it's still there and would love to have a photo of it for my wall) a simple wooden sign that said

"Beyond This Point Your Life May Depend on Your Good Judgement"

Our condolences and respects for those who lived their lives with adventure, purpose and vigor.

towboater posted 04-20-2007 12:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
St George Reef Lighthouse has aways facinated me.
(A little north of these incidents)

I have a collection of every West Coast Lighthouse between Cabo & Point Barrow.
Litho's, photos, matchbooks, History books, coffee table books, a whole shelf of minatures, calendars.
A numbered/signed lithograph poster of St George hangs on the office wall. Most of the other stuff is in a box now.

Never been there by boat.
I'd like to take my own picture of it some day. Maybe on the way back from the SF rendevous but I dont think Im gonna have time to make it.

Built on a Island no bigger than a postage stamp in 1867 out of granite concrete.
1867! Still standing.
When was the Gold Rush in Eureka?
To me, this accomplishment is like a Pacific Ocean version of building a pyramid.

mk

17 bodega posted 04-22-2007 02:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for 17 bodega  Send Email to 17 bodega     
I hope we continue to discuss the details of boating safety and how to avoid these fatalities rather than simply highlighting the body count and moving on. I think in most cases, excercising the proper precautions can avoid death by boating. Sometimes it can't be avoided, but most fatalities are avoidable.

Today, I walked aboard several public safety boats and got up close and personal with two incredible helicopters, all of which are technically owned by you and me; the taxpayers. Flying around in an aluminum framed box propelled by rotors is much more inherently dangerous than boating, and yet the number of helicopter crashes are very small and rare in this country. That is because the operators are highly trained, use extreme judgement and caution, and would not hesitate to cancel a flight or operation due to foul weather. This is not true for the general public as is witnessed by any given opening day for fishing. The last two crab and salmon opening days have been under small craft advisories, yet many boaters went out despite warnings. At least one commercial boat I know of sustained damage that was discovered later due to their decision to go out in the rough weather.

Anyway... let's keep up the discussion but perhaps with more suggestions on how to avoid the tragedies. Always dive with a buddy, have a system of checks, avoid fishing alone, or at least be sure and establish vhf contact and a rescue plan. I admit to not always doing things perfectly, but working next to a coast guard station part time has given me an opportunity to observe some good habits for boating safety.

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