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My restored and modified 13 footer
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posted 09-20-2007 03:18 PM ET (US)
`61 13 footer, new Awlgrip, rubrail, hardware, `58 35hp Evinrude Lark electric start. New impeller, new magneto parts, (coils, condensers, points and plugs). Compression is 120psi both cylinders. New African mahogany interior, moved forward 6" for improved ride, teak casting platform, kicker bracket made from aluminum I-beam for 3hp `66 Johnson. Mahogany interior, console similar to Nauset console, with storage shelf. Casting platform is hinged for storage underneath. Rear thwart is raised 4" to provide for fuel tanks and battery underneath. Motor is set on pin, (no t-n-t) so motor runs in vertical position. Boat will come on plane with two people sitting on rear seat, and will run at 28.0 mph GPS with second person on rear or front seat. No porpoising at all. Bare hull weighs 285lbs.
posted 09-20-2007 04:10 PM ET (US)
Binkie, very nice looking rig. What is that on top of the motor? Is that the cowling?
posted 09-20-2007 04:13 PM ET (US)
That is one sweet 13. The brightwork looks like
furniture. Nice job.
posted 09-20-2007 04:14 PM ET (US)
Binkie that "really" is sweeet!
posted 09-20-2007 04:43 PM ET (US)
Nice work on the restoration and mods, the boat looks great. I like the design and execution on the console, and the restored motor just plain looks sharp.
posted 09-20-2007 04:58 PM ET (US)
As I said in the metaforum, that is sweeet indeed. I hope you didn't take offense from my comment about the engine, though. I do prefer a more modern one, but I wasn't saying your's isn't nice. I'm an early '58 model too, but that Evinrude looks a hell of a lot better than me!
posted 09-20-2007 05:10 PM ET (US)
That is a very nicely finished boat. Makes me want a 13 to mess with, that Nauset look is great.
posted 09-20-2007 05:47 PM ET (US)
Very nice and congratulations on learning to post pictures. My first boat had a pull atart 35hp Evinrude Lark. It was a fine motor and took tons of abuse. John
posted 09-20-2007 09:04 PM ET (US)
Beautiful work, Binkie! More pictures would be appreciated.
In a separate thread on this forum ( http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005122.html )regarding moving the interior forward, you asked me if I had a wetter ride as a result of that modification. Have you experienced a wetter ride? And for the benefit of others contemplating such a change, can you tell us the distance from your interior transom to the two thwarts?
I haven't yet re-installed my side rails, and miss them pretty bad. Do you plan on installing side rails?
posted 09-20-2007 09:57 PM ET (US)
Very nice job Rich. The antique engine really adds a nice touch. And the interior looks very functional.
posted 09-20-2007 10:02 PM ET (US)
If boats could talk about all the people who rode in them over the years, your boat would have a very long list. “Sweeeet” has an incredible future too. She will influence dozens of people who just see her and make anyone who rides in her, fall in love. You did a great job. I miss my 13’.
posted 09-21-2007 07:37 AM ET (US)
posted 09-21-2007 08:00 AM ET (US)
Beautiful boat, I like the era-matched engine and the "pulpit" console-- everything fits, sized right, pretty much the perfect 13 setup!
posted 09-21-2007 09:29 AM ET (US)
Moving the console forward was a great idea. And the auxiliary motor mount is beautiful.
posted 09-21-2007 09:47 AM ET (US)
That's almost too pretty to use!
Nice display of craftsmanship; your design is both more pratical than original, and esthically pleasing to the eye..hat's off to you.
Is the kicker bracket there because your main engine is old, and you want to be able to venture out without a care?
My Yami on my 13 is newer, but I can't troll slow enough (3 mph), and I don't want a hinged "plate". I have a little Evinrude 4 hp that I thought I might mount. You've given me a great idea/example, but "finding" such a piece of aluminum doesn't seen too likely.
posted 09-21-2007 10:14 AM ET (US)
that's 9.9 out of 10. With a SS steering wheel it would be a perfect ten, but that's just my opinion. Beautiful woodwork and very nice pictures.
posted 09-21-2007 12:18 PM ET (US)
I second what Alex K said. Go for the SS destroyer wheel. That'll definitely make it a 10.
posted 09-21-2007 12:58 PM ET (US)
I really like the casting platform, very cool
posted 09-21-2007 01:34 PM ET (US)
It's absolutely stunning!!!
Did you use plans for the mini-console?
I'm saving your photos as reference.
I bet you get tons of comments @ the ramp!
posted 09-21-2007 02:28 PM ET (US)
The boat looks great and it is definitely something to be proud of.
Just a couple of questions: In the picture with "Miss Gwen at the wheel" what's with the fuel tank? Is it wedged under the seat or is it being sucked flat because the vent isn't open?
posted 09-21-2007 03:12 PM ET (US)
I want to thank everyone for all the favorable comments. I built the interior 2 years ago, and stored it in a closet until I had time to restore the hull. I had two other boats I was working on.
Dennis, you are very observant. not being used to portable tanks,I forgot to open the vent. I discovered it before the motor quit, and opened the vent before the pic. was taken, but the tank didn`t return to normal for a while.
I`m going to install a transom OEM boarding ladder, and probably side rails. I had a 13" destroyer wheel but it didn`t fit the shaft. I was going to get another one, but I kind of liked the feel of the cheap plastic $15 one. I installed a kicker bracket and carry a 3 hp Johnson. It gives me more confidence running a 49 year old motor, but since I changed out all the ignition parts it runs great. I haven`t run the boat in rough water, but I don`t think it`ll be any wetter than a boat with the original set up. I ran it wide open in a 1` chop, and it just ran over the tops of the chop, pretty smooth.
posted 09-21-2007 04:30 PM ET (US)
You are a fine craftsman, the boat looks excellent, I wished mine looked as nice. This boat is definitely a head turner and you should be proud, great job...good luck
posted 09-21-2007 05:57 PM ET (US)
WoW!!!!what a beautiful boat!
posted 09-21-2007 08:20 PM ET (US)
Very nice work. I am impressed with your craftsmanship and talent. Thank you for sharing these pics.
posted 09-21-2007 08:39 PM ET (US)
Looks great and the motor tops it off.
posted 09-22-2007 12:01 AM ET (US)
Great job! Did you make any shop drawings? Would you be willing to share? How is the port side of the console attached to the floor? I have been working with a few different designs trying to find one that will suit my needs. Yours looks awsome.
posted 09-22-2007 07:29 AM ET (US)
I never made any drawings for the console. At the time I had a wooden Nauset console that I picked up, and used to visually design the console. I built a mock up out of 3/4" OSB board, and tacked it together with a few finish nails. I set it in the Whaler hull, then took it apart and made changes, retacked it together, and repeated the process a few times until it looked right and in visual scale with the hull. I see why designers use computers to do this. When I thought it looked right I took the OSB console apart and used it as patterns for the mahogany. No pieces are over 12" wide, as its impossible to find mahogany over that width. I never planned to make any more as it was too much work, but I did trace the parts onto plywood, which I still have.
I`m thinking about building a glass mold for this console, and then reproducing them in fiberglass. It would still have the mahogany windscreen, and I would cover the dash with mahogany, and maybe some mahogany trim, so as to keep the mahogany look without the upkeep. It is really just two boxes, one on top of the other one, hence the shelf, same as the original Nauset console. The console can also be used as a side console in the fifteen footer, as all sides are finished and rest on the floor, unlike the original side console which just screws to the top of seat clamp. I think that its too wide, at 31", to use as a center console, in the 13 or 15 foot Whaler, although maybe it could be used as a center console in a 17 footer. The space to the side of the console is about 22",in my thirteen, which would be split in half 11" on each side if used as a center console. Side consoles are easier to install in 13 or 15 footers anyway, as you don`t have to bother about a rigging tunnel. Although the console isn`t screwed into any wood backing, it is screwed into epoxy plugs in the floor. The method of doing this can be found many times in the reference section, using an allen wrench to ream out voids in the foam.
posted 09-22-2007 09:56 AM ET (US)
I have one more question about your gorgeous restoration.
Awlgrip. Did you apply it yourself and if so what method? Spray or roll and brush tip?
posted 09-22-2007 02:51 PM ET (US)
I sprayed the Awlgrip myself, last spring. The interior is Matterhorn White, the exterior is 1/2 Matterhorn White and 1/2 F.L. Yellow mixed together.
posted 09-22-2007 03:17 PM ET (US)
Hey Binkie, on the gas tanks, you can order the 6 gallon Duratanks from a Johnson/Evinrude dealer for about $60 that have an autovent cap. Tanks are real sturdy (built by Neptune I think) and they are the same handle on top design (convenient for strapping in). Just a thought if you wanted to go premium and never worry about the vents.
posted 09-22-2007 04:24 PM ET (US)
superdav, Thanks I`ll check into that.
posted 09-24-2007 02:20 PM ET (US)
Thanks Binkie. That's pretty much what I did this year, I made a console out of birch ply just to see if I liked it or not. I must say it's better than last years but still not what I am looking for. I have been saving alot of console pictures this year for reference. Thanks again for the reply and congrats on your project.. Let me know if you do one in glass I may be interested.
posted 09-24-2007 06:18 PM ET (US)
What make/model of trailer are you using?
posted 09-25-2007 12:12 AM ET (US)
Beautiful classic, but that motor couln't possibly have much more life in it. I am a classic whaler guy all the way but I use the Hell out of my boats and newer power would be a necesity.
posted 09-25-2007 06:52 AM ET (US)
Rob, well we`ll see, its a very simple motor, and has good compression, a clean carb, and all new ignition parts. It starts at the turn of the key. It doesn`t even have an alternator to confuse things. you just charge the battery from time to time. It starts on the first pull if the battery goes dead, and the boat isn`t loaded down with electronics, just lights and a fish finder. Parts are easily available and inexpensive, and I can fix it myself if need be. Special tools, are not needed like in the old Mercs. In the antique outboard world the 'Big Twins' are known to be one of the most reliable outboards ever made, even at their old age. But of course I`m never without the kicker either. This motor isn`t cast in stone either. It burns a bit of gas, uses alot of oil 24:1. At some point you might see a new Suzuki 25 4 stroke on the transom. As far as the trailer, I don`t know anything about it, its registered as home made by the previous owner, but its in good shape, I replaced the springs, wheels and the hubs and the bearings are fine. It has bearing buddies.
posted 09-25-2007 06:58 AM ET (US)
Very nice job Rich. Beautiful woodwork. Congrats.
posted 09-25-2007 10:26 PM ET (US)
Your restoration is superb!
But I have a question for you.
Why did you choose a white interior
over the original blue?
posted 09-25-2007 11:56 PM ET (US)
Nice Job:) got a great nick too:)
posted 09-26-2007 11:03 AM ET (US)
Binkie..you bringing her to Venice?
I agree on the wheel, The SeaRay look does not fit the Buck Rogers engine.
posted 09-26-2007 12:53 PM ET (US)
I chose to paint the interior Matterhorn White, because I wanted to paint the exterior a light yellow, but lighter than F.L.Yellow. Also I painted my Bass Boat Matterhorn White last year, and had about a pint left. So I bought 2 qts of white, used about 1 1/4 qts on the interior, mixed the F.L.Yellow I also had left over from the Bass boat with some white, for the exterior. It came out a little lighter than I had planned, though. My daughter also had a negative comment about the steering wheel, but I like it myself, but I might change it.
I plan on bringing the boat to Venice. Its the only Whaler I have.
posted 09-26-2007 03:48 PM ET (US)
Binkie, That looks fantastic! We have a bunch of those Larks laying around if you ever need parts.
posted 02-14-2015 08:31 AM ET (US)
I have been admiring your console on Sweet 13 for a couple years. Now I am ready to rebuild mine. I made a mock-up in plywood and used it for a season, tweaked it and now ready to go. Here is my question:
Two furniture makers are telling me not to use solid wood because of shrinkage/expansion. On a big flat piece, it could change by 1/4 inch and crack if any cleats are behind it. They suggest marine mahogany plywood
Can you comment on this? I hate to ignore experienced people, yet I see yours and many other consoles that are made of solid wood in big dimensions.
|John from Madison CT||
posted 02-15-2015 06:31 PM ET (US)
Holy Thread Resurrection !!
You replied to an 7.5 year old thread.
posted 02-17-2015 10:02 AM ET (US)
My console on my 13 footer looks as good today as the day I built it, no seams have opened or seperated. Funny that furniture builders would say that as antique furniture was always built using solid wood. I used 5/4"X 12" boards, planed to 3/4" for the console. There are no parts over 12" wide so no cleats were necesarry.
John, most of the information on this site can come from old threads, some of us old members are still here on a daily basis.
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