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jay18 posted 07-22-2008 08:43 PM ET (US)
I went to work on a friend's [Boston Whaler OUTRAGE] 22 today, and the rear compartment underneath the stern seat was full to the top with water. I advised to leave the plug to the thru hull in, and remove the aft one to the splashwell so that water can drain out when trailering or under power. With both plugs in, how did the compartment fill up with so much water? Is there something to do with the front lockers and their plugs?
There is a bilge pump in the rear compartment, but it is inoperable at this time. In the splashwell, there is a ball and float mechanism over the fitting exiting the rear compartment. I believe it is designed to let water exit but not enter the compartment. Is that correct?
How do you all run your plugs? I leave mine out on my 18 at all times.
Thanks
Jay
jeffs22outrage posted 07-22-2008 09:04 PM ET (US)
Jay,
Stupid question but have you had it out in a heavy rain, even while under a mooring cover?
On my 22 Outrage I found that when the fuel tank cavity was full of water it spill over from the cavity, between the bottom of the floor and the bulk head, into the fish locker area. This would occur when the boat would ride bow high at a slow speed, get pulled on a trailer up hill, and up the boat ramp. Of course after my rebuilding of the floor I installed the sump for the fuel tank cavity so this was a less frequent occurrence. Maybe this is where the water is coming from?
When I ran my 22 I left the plugs in for the rigging tunnel, forward locker in front of the console, in the bottom of the fish locker, and in the rear splashwell. I left the plugs out of the drain that went from the fish locker to the rear splashwell, the rope lockers, and the very front bow locker.
Plotman posted 07-22-2008 09:13 PM ET (US)
The 4 forward lockers all have rain gutters around them, so if the boat is left uncovered, rain will not drain into them. This is not the case with the rear fish locker.
I never found that one-way ball valve to really work all that well (at all).
It doesn't matter whether you pull the bottom or back plug on that locker - it will drain either way when you get on plane or pull the boat out of the water. Depending on how stern-heavy your boat is, if you leave the rigging tunnel plug out (I am assuming this is a pre-89 design that has but one rigging tunnel drain, the later models had one on each side), the water under the deck can over-flow into the fish well.)
SpongeBob posted 07-22-2008 09:19 PM ET (US)
Jeff if you plugged the rear splashwell drain did you run a bilgepump in the splashwell?
Jeff
jeffs22outrage posted 07-22-2008 09:47 PM ET (US)
Yes Jeff there was an automatic bilge pump in there. I never left the plug out in the rear splashwell because, like Plotman said "I never found that one-way ball valve to really work all that well (at all)."
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/ Memorial%20Weekend%2006/MemorialWeekend2006072.jpg
SpongeBob posted 07-22-2008 10:22 PM ET (US)
It looks like a 500 or 360 gph pump. I've considered it. With my twin 120's I take water from time to time it would help, and like you said the ball valves aren't perfect.
Jay, like Jeff says rain will fill the rear well if you don't leave a plug out. On my 22' I have the ball valves on both the transom drain and the drain between the splashwell and the rear live/bait well. The ball valves prohibit water leaving these areas while the boat is at rest due to pressure. If the boat is left alone for an extended period of time I leave the side plug out of the rear well and the water will level and any that enters from the deck will drain. I have a bilge pump in that well but here in FL our rain storms can drain a battery, or two, in short order so plug removal is easier.
Jeff
SpongeBob posted 07-22-2008 10:27 PM ET (US)
Sorry, that should read "as Plotman says".

Jeff
devildog posted 07-23-2008 04:58 PM ET (US)
Gents,
Rigging tunnel plug? Either I'm having a major brain f@rt (not uncommon) or my 1980 V-22 Outrage doesn't have one. Where is it?
By the way, I'll never understand why a previous owner glassed over the anchor locker drain on my Outrage.
Jeff
SpongeBob posted 07-23-2008 07:32 PM ET (US)
Jeff the rigging runs in a tunnel under deck and exits on the starboard stern side thruogh the deck sump (usually covered by a hinged plywood hatch). In that sump there is a through hull that is often left open in order to drain the decks, unless you have twins in which case it is often pluged and a small bilge pump is fitted.
I feel your pain on the former owner's action.
Jeff
jimh posted 07-23-2008 11:29 PM ET (US)
For advice on how to manage the drains on a Boston Whaler 22-foot hull, see the owner's manual:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/manual18-25/operations. html#selfBailing
jimh posted 07-23-2008 11:32 PM ET (US)
The aft cockpit deck compartment (or fish well) on a 22-footer Boston Whaler will fill to the brim with water after an hour or two of heavy rain. The deck accumulates the rain, and water, seeking the low spot, flows into the compartment without much difficulty or restraint from the loose fitting cover.
I have installed a pump in the stern deck center compartment on my 22-foot Boston Whaler so that I can pump out accumulated rain water when the boat is at the dock. If underway you can drain the water out the through-hull on the bottom. I don't use this compartment as a fish well, but rather for storage. However, I keep everything in water-tight cases because I am certain that eventually the compartment will be full of water at some point.
JMARTIN posted 07-24-2008 11:30 AM ET (US)
I consider the aft storage, fish well, what ever it is, to be wet storage. The anchor and assorted gear live there along with my water supply and empty beer bottles. The splash well is not plugged and yes, the ball check valve does not work very well but when you are under way, it does drain out. I keep all my other plugs in.
I have always carried a manual bilge pump just in case and use it to clear out the aft compartment. There is an opening where the fuel line runs from the tank through this compartment. If you get too much water in the compartment, it could migrate to the fuel compartment where it can not get out other than by evaporation. John

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Author	Topic: Outrage 22 Drain Plugs
jay18	posted 07-22-2008 08:43 PM ET (US) I went to work on a friend's [Boston Whaler OUTRAGE] 22 today, and the rear compartment underneath the stern seat was full to the top with water. I advised to leave the plug to the thru hull in, and remove the aft one to the splashwell so that water can drain out when trailering or under power. With both plugs in, how did the compartment fill up with so much water? Is there something to do with the front lockers and their plugs? There is a bilge pump in the rear compartment, but it is inoperable at this time. In the splashwell, there is a ball and float mechanism over the fitting exiting the rear compartment. I believe it is designed to let water exit but not enter the compartment. Is that correct? How do you all run your plugs? I leave mine out on my 18 at all times. Thanks Jay
jeffs22outrage	posted 07-22-2008 09:04 PM ET (US) Jay, Stupid question but have you had it out in a heavy rain, even while under a mooring cover? On my 22 Outrage I found that when the fuel tank cavity was full of water it spill over from the cavity, between the bottom of the floor and the bulk head, into the fish locker area. This would occur when the boat would ride bow high at a slow speed, get pulled on a trailer up hill, and up the boat ramp. Of course after my rebuilding of the floor I installed the sump for the fuel tank cavity so this was a less frequent occurrence. Maybe this is where the water is coming from? When I ran my 22 I left the plugs in for the rigging tunnel, forward locker in front of the console, in the bottom of the fish locker, and in the rear splashwell. I left the plugs out of the drain that went from the fish locker to the rear splashwell, the rope lockers, and the very front bow locker.
Plotman	posted 07-22-2008 09:13 PM ET (US) The 4 forward lockers all have rain gutters around them, so if the boat is left uncovered, rain will not drain into them. This is not the case with the rear fish locker. I never found that one-way ball valve to really work all that well (at all). It doesn't matter whether you pull the bottom or back plug on that locker - it will drain either way when you get on plane or pull the boat out of the water. Depending on how stern-heavy your boat is, if you leave the rigging tunnel plug out (I am assuming this is a pre-89 design that has but one rigging tunnel drain, the later models had one on each side), the water under the deck can over-flow into the fish well.)
SpongeBob	posted 07-22-2008 09:19 PM ET (US) Jeff if you plugged the rear splashwell drain did you run a bilgepump in the splashwell? Jeff
jeffs22outrage	posted 07-22-2008 09:47 PM ET (US) Yes Jeff there was an automatic bilge pump in there. I never left the plug out in the rear splashwell because, like Plotman said "I never found that one-way ball valve to really work all that well (at all)." http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/ Memorial%20Weekend%2006/MemorialWeekend2006072.jpg
SpongeBob	posted 07-22-2008 10:22 PM ET (US) It looks like a 500 or 360 gph pump. I've considered it. With my twin 120's I take water from time to time it would help, and like you said the ball valves aren't perfect. Jay, like Jeff says rain will fill the rear well if you don't leave a plug out. On my 22' I have the ball valves on both the transom drain and the drain between the splashwell and the rear live/bait well. The ball valves prohibit water leaving these areas while the boat is at rest due to pressure. If the boat is left alone for an extended period of time I leave the side plug out of the rear well and the water will level and any that enters from the deck will drain. I have a bilge pump in that well but here in FL our rain storms can drain a battery, or two, in short order so plug removal is easier. Jeff
SpongeBob	posted 07-22-2008 10:27 PM ET (US) Sorry, that should read "as Plotman says". Jeff
devildog	posted 07-23-2008 04:58 PM ET (US) Gents, Rigging tunnel plug? Either I'm having a major brain f@rt (not uncommon) or my 1980 V-22 Outrage doesn't have one. Where is it? By the way, I'll never understand why a previous owner glassed over the anchor locker drain on my Outrage. Jeff
SpongeBob	posted 07-23-2008 07:32 PM ET (US) Jeff the rigging runs in a tunnel under deck and exits on the starboard stern side thruogh the deck sump (usually covered by a hinged plywood hatch). In that sump there is a through hull that is often left open in order to drain the decks, unless you have twins in which case it is often pluged and a small bilge pump is fitted. I feel your pain on the former owner's action. Jeff
jimh	posted 07-23-2008 11:29 PM ET (US) For advice on how to manage the drains on a Boston Whaler 22-foot hull, see the owner's manual: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/manual18-25/operations. html#selfBailing
jimh	posted 07-23-2008 11:32 PM ET (US) The aft cockpit deck compartment (or fish well) on a 22-footer Boston Whaler will fill to the brim with water after an hour or two of heavy rain. The deck accumulates the rain, and water, seeking the low spot, flows into the compartment without much difficulty or restraint from the loose fitting cover. I have installed a pump in the stern deck center compartment on my 22-foot Boston Whaler so that I can pump out accumulated rain water when the boat is at the dock. If underway you can drain the water out the through-hull on the bottom. I don't use this compartment as a fish well, but rather for storage. However, I keep everything in water-tight cases because I am certain that eventually the compartment will be full of water at some point.
JMARTIN	posted 07-24-2008 11:30 AM ET (US) I consider the aft storage, fish well, what ever it is, to be wet storage. The anchor and assorted gear live there along with my water supply and empty beer bottles. The splash well is not plugged and yes, the ball check valve does not work very well but when you are under way, it does drain out. I keep all my other plugs in. I have always carried a manual bilge pump just in case and use it to clear out the aft compartment. There is an opening where the fuel line runs from the tank through this compartment. If you get too much water in the compartment, it could migrate to the fuel compartment where it can not get out other than by evaporation. John