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elaelap posted 08-04-2008 02:22 AM ET (US)   Profile for elaelap   Send Email to elaelap  
...and I hope some of his seamanship and fishing prowess will rub off on me. Here's the boat (an '87) on her way to Bodega Bay today for my first cruise (not counting a "sea" trial on the Petaluma River):
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Fishcops15001.jpg
I picked her up today from the guy who bought her from our Andy last June. He was in the process of repowering when a sailboat deal he couldn't refuse materialized, and he advertised her for sale in craigslist/San Francisco. I jumped and she's mine! That's a 60 hp Yamaha F60 four cylinder four stroke EFI hanging on her transom, and a very sweet motor it is. The motor only had 7 hours on it when I bought the boat--now it's got 11 after my wife and I bounced around in this stuff for half the day today:

MM DD TIME
(PDT) WDIR WSPD
kts GST
kts WVHT
ft DPD
sec APD
sec MWD PRES
in PTDY
in ATMP
°F WTMP
°F DEWP
°F SAL
psu VIS
mi TIDE
ft
08 03 8:50 pm NW 23.3 29.1 8.2 6 5.3 NNW 29.84 -0.02 53.8 51.3 - - - -
08 03 7:50 pm NW 25.3 29.1 7.9 6 5.2 NW 29.84 -0.04 53.8 51.3 - - - -
08 03 6:50 pm NW 21.4 25.3 7.9 7 5.4 NW 29.85 -0.04 53.8 51.4 - - - -
08 03 5:50 pm NW 21.4 27.2 7.5 8 5.3 NW 29.86 -0.03 53.8 51.4 - - - -
08 03 4:50 pm NW 21.4 25.3 6.9 9 5.3 NW 29.87 -0.04 53.8 51.4 - - - -
08 03 3:50 pm NW 17.5 21.4 6.2 8 5.2 NW 29.89 -0.02 53.4 51.4 - - - -
08 03 2:50 pm NW 19.4 23.3 6.6 8 5.7 NW 29.89 -0.03 53.4 51.3 - - - -
08 03 1:50 pm NW 15.5 17.5 6.2 8 5.6 NW 29.91 +0.00 53.1 51.3 - - - -
08 03 12:50 pm NW 15.5 19.4 6.2 9 5.2 NW 29.91 +0.00 52.9 51.3 - - - -
08 03 11:50 am NW 15.5 19.4 5.9 8 5.2 NW 29.92 +0.03 52.7 51.1 - - - -
08 03 10:50 am NNW 15.5 19.4 6.6 8 5.1 NW 29.92 +0.03 52.5 51.1 - - - -
08 03 9:50 am NW 19.4 23.3 6.9 8 5.3 NW 29.90 +0.04 52.5 50.9 - - - -
08 03 8:50 am NNW 21.4 25.3 6.6 8 5.2 NW 29.89 +0.04 52.5 50.9
________________

Hmmm...that sure didn't reproduce too well. Anyway, the red pennant was flying and it was a little lumpy, but the boat performed like a charm (especially because we mostly played around in the shelter of Bodega Head ;-)

Small is beautiful, they say, and so far it seems to be true. I think I'm in love again with yet another Whaler.

Tony

CLK posted 08-04-2008 02:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for CLK    
Congrats Tony!

Cheers!
~CLK

littleblue posted 08-04-2008 02:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for littleblue  Send Email to littleblue     
Sweet! I want to get one of those one day, perfect lake/delta boat.

erik selis posted 08-04-2008 04:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
That's great news Tony and it didn't take you long to decide what to buy.
The boat looks to be in fantastic shape and it has your favorite engine on it. What more could you ask for?
Congrats and good luck with her my friend.

Erik

minitauk85 posted 08-04-2008 05:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for minitauk85  Send Email to minitauk85     
OH YEAH!!! You're gonna love cruising in that 15! How about some more pics? Has someone raised the console? I was always amazed at how seaworthy my 15 was, rides like a dream, and a very dry little boat! What's the top end speed with the 60 Yammie on her? I sure miss my 15, it has been about 4 months since my last ride on her, since then gas prices have gone through the roof and I know I'll miss the relatively small amount I paid at the pump for a day on the lake. Hopefully I will be splashing my "new" Menemsha in about 4 hours- will keep you posted!-k
zotcha posted 08-04-2008 07:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for zotcha  Send Email to zotcha     
Looks great Tony. F60 and a manual jack plate? I've got the same rig but classic interior. Congradulations!

I'd love some interior shots for some ideas on my second 15 I'm getting ready to flip back over...the exterior is almost complete. Thanks. zotcha.

jeffs22outrage posted 08-04-2008 07:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
What a great looking boat Tony. Congrats.
towboater posted 08-04-2008 08:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Tuco, you can only run one boat at a time, and both nice rigs...
I have to agree this boat will serve you better than your Ketch plans.

btw, Columbia River salmon bite is on. Bring it.

mkj

WT posted 08-04-2008 09:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Congratulations, Tony!

Boy is Strike3 going to be jealous!

Warren

Rem1319 posted 08-04-2008 10:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for Rem1319  Send Email to Rem1319     
Gorgeous!
Love the raised console and the engine mounting.
What type of steering does it have.
Trying to get my 87 CC up to that level.
Keep the Pics coming.
Greg
placerville posted 08-04-2008 10:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for placerville  Send Email to placerville     
Beautiful Tony. I like the console/seat combo.
Could this be Strike3-4?
Matt
elaelap posted 08-04-2008 10:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Yes, the console has been raised about five inches, nicely done by the seller. I'm considering raising it another four or five inches, because I usually stand while cruising at sea and I want the wheel a little higher. Other than the usual minor crazing/gelcoat spiderwebbing in a few areas, the boat is remarkably clean and sound. That motor weighs in at an acceptable 238 pounds, and the boat doesn't wave her bow in the air at rest and doesn't porpoise at all (but I'll probably add some weight in her bow anchor locker when I mount a kicker). She's real quick up onto plane with the motor trimmed all the way in, and tracks straight as a die hands off the helm at sea, even in the sorta lumpy stuff. Like all of the Dougherty Whalers, she's much more comfortable surfing downhill or heading across the swells than pounding directly into the stuff, though it took me a while to enjoy the slide down the five-seven foot swells with that very shallow freeboard bow looking as though it might bury itself in the back of the next wave. She rides like a surfboard, however, and I soon felt (almost!) as secure dropping down into the trough as I did with Cetaceous, my classic Outrage 18. She's much less beamy relative to her length (or at least seems so) than either my OR 18 or my old Katama 16, and is substantially more tender as one moves one's weight side to side, which is going to make for some adjustments when I begin to fish in her. Then again, everything's a trade-off with boat design, and she easily snakes around the caps when heading uphill with amazing maneuverability. I can tell that when I get to know her better and I'm out there alone I'll be steering by just moving my too-substantial weight from side to side a bit.

Anyway, you folks will all understand my excitment at acquiring such a fine craft. I'd love to see some photos on this thread from you other BW 15 owners and prior owners(and please explain the BW 15 nomenclature--I'm confused about 'Sport', 'Super Sport', 'Classic', etc). Also, how about some advice re props (I'm sure not inamored with the crappy one that came with the motor from the Yamaha dealer) and motor height (as it is, the anti-cavitation plate is about one inch above the bottom of the transom). And thanks for the nice comments so far.

Tony

elaelap posted 08-04-2008 10:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
A couple of other notes: 1) She's equipped with a brand new cube-shaped 18-gallon aluminum fuel tank in the console--very, very nice with that weight forward and no worries about problems with plastic tanks and ethanol gasoline; 2) She was completely rewired when the motor was rigged (except for the wires going underneath the rubrail up to the bow lights, which, miracle of miracles, actually work); and 3) She tows like a dream behind my Tacoma compared with my OR 18's very heavy dual axle trailer or our series of much larger partnership banana-hulled Whalers on even larger and heavier trailers.

Mounting the radio and chartplotter is going to be a hassle with the battery under the bench seat rather than in the console, however, and with no grab rail up and over the windscreen to mount their antennae. Speaking of console grab rails...any suggestions?

Tony

skiff posted 08-04-2008 11:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for skiff  Send Email to skiff     
Tony,

Congratulations! You're going to love that 15. There's something that's just ultra 'usable' about that particular size.

Jeff

WT posted 08-04-2008 12:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Tony, you're planning on fishing solo around Bodega Bay on your new 15? :-O

Warren

brisboats posted 08-04-2008 12:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for brisboats  Send Email to brisboats     
Congrats Tony, looks like a great rig already tailored for you with new four stroke power. I had a 91 supersport for a short time last season. If it was configured like yours I bet I would have held on longer. The 15 is tender but rides like no other 15'er and like a sports car the hull begs to be run. Enjoy!

brian

frontier posted 08-04-2008 08:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for frontier  Send Email to frontier     
Great boat, Tony.
Ya gotta love those 15's.
And that 60 4-Stroke Yamaha - near perfect.
Small Whalers are just pure fun!
an86carrera posted 08-04-2008 08:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for an86carrera  Send Email to an86carrera     
Tony, it looks great. Your a lucky guy to have an original CC. Good Luck
Len
DeeVee posted 08-04-2008 10:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for DeeVee  Send Email to DeeVee     
Tony,

That's a great looking 15. I had a 15 Striper with a Yamaha 70 many years ago. She was a little race boat. I really enjoyed it.

As far as a grab rail goes- maybe one could find a console grab rail off of a standard console and shorten it up to fit the 15 console? The shepards crook may be out of proportion, but maybe one could bend one a little smaller?

Have fun with it,
Doug

towboater posted 08-06-2008 12:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
Yo Tuco.
Will OEM grab rails work if you are gonna raise the console another 4 inches anyway?

If you cant find a resonably priced fab shop that cant do anything unless it has a blueprint...
I went to a friends muffler shop to see about bending some 1" stainless pipe and he turned me on to a guy who builds custom boat rails & canvas frames all the time.

I tend to sit more than stand.
The helm seat needs a back and swivel so I can sit at an angle and my feet rest on the gunwales.
hehe. 6-2, 220.
And, sitting down most of the time, I dont need a windshield that constantly needs cleaned.

Point is, you know your habits and where you wanna grab and where you dont...think about designing your own rails. I am constantly modifying my Tug to serve a specific purpose and one day I will find time for my Guardian.

mk

the bar was fogged in yesterday and today.
fish arent bitting inside. crabbing is poor.

BlueMax posted 08-06-2008 12:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for BlueMax  Send Email to BlueMax     
quote:
the bar was fogged in yesterday and today.
fish arent bitting inside. crabbing is poor

Sounds like a good reason to just order another drink - also is it really that bad when you can't catch crabs at the bar? I guess it's all relative.... especially if you live in Arkansas.

Okay, Okay, I know - back to my corner. LoL.

rjgorion posted 08-06-2008 08:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for rjgorion  Send Email to rjgorion     
Tony,

congrats on your new Whaler. If you would like to have a rail custom made for your console, try Svedsen's in Alameda. They can make anything and do beautiful work. They made side rails for my Outrage 18 exactly to my specifications and did a perfect job. They are very nice people as well.

Ron

Sal A posted 08-06-2008 08:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
Congratulations Tony.
elaelap posted 08-06-2008 10:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Thanks for that, Ron. Matt/placerville borrowed my new boat yesterday and headed out to 220 feet off Bodega Head for a little fishing, and his first comment when he returned concerned the need for some sort of grab rail over the windscreen. I know Svedsen's reputation from my S.F. Bay sailing days, and that's a good starting place. I did get an email from another local CW member who might have some rails that would work, so that will be my starting place. And thanks for all the supportive comments from the rest of you nice folks. This place is great.

Tony

towboater posted 08-06-2008 11:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
I thought Matt was down under harrassing whale boats?
Guess I missed the thread. Good to hear he is back.

So, what are you gonna name your new baby?

mk

elaelap posted 08-06-2008 12:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Matt got back about a week ago, Mike, with many great tales to tell. We fished (and he dove for abalone) together on our partnership Whaler yesterday after he sea trialed the 'new' 15. Photo to follow.

As for names, I'm thinking about SETI for the little skiff, short for Cetaceous, my last Whaler, meaning Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence...God knows we've gotta find some somewhere ;-)

Tony

Any name suggestions greatfully accepted.

elaelap posted 08-06-2008 07:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
As promised, here's a shot of placerville/Matt with a fish--uh, at least the gnarly head of a nice ling cod--which is in fact the first fish to bloody the deck of our partnership prototype Whaler which we've owned for more than six months...please don't ask any west coast fisherman why it took so long this miserable season to chase the skunk away from our unique banana-hulled craft. Matt and I followed up with a decent mess of rockfish, caught after more work than usual fifteen miles or so north of our harbor, and I actually boated another decent ling which my family will consume tonight baked with onions, salsa, and fresh garlic al comida Mexicana.

The second photo is another of my new 15, this time located where she belongs and where she will spend a lot of time--Bodega Bay, California, better known as Blow-dega Bay, a quaint little drinking harbor with a fishing habit located 60 miles north of San Francisco.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Fishcops15008.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Fishcops15012.jpg

So what should I name this beast? (The boat that is, not the fish & not placerville Matt.)

Tony

WT posted 08-06-2008 07:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Why not name it "Tuco"? (Not that she's ugly.)

Warren

WT posted 08-06-2008 07:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Or Ynot or Y-knot. (As in Tony spelled backwards.)
poker13 posted 08-06-2008 08:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for poker13    
Sweet boat. I think Warren's idea for the name is perfect (Ynot).
Fishcop posted 08-06-2008 10:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Fishcop  Send Email to Fishcop     
Tony,

You know that you are going to have to sell that boat back to me sooner or later, so don't bother with a name ;-)

My boats are all named "Finreaper" and that one was probably number XVII or so! Maybe more including the Grady's.

If it is still there, on the Port Stern, you may still be able to make out the original name of the boat. Let me know if you can....

That was my all-time favorite skiff and only sold it to our friend to keep it in the CW family.

Best wishes and let us know what you name her.

Andy

elaelap posted 08-06-2008 10:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
'Finreaper', eh. That's on my short list now, Andy, first because some say it's bad luck to change a boat's name, and second because I'm part Finnish if I go back three generations (my mother's father was from the Aland Islands--Ahvenanmaa in Finnish--an archipelago in the Baltic Sea half way between Sweden and Finland--Swedish speaking but owned by Finland). Well, whatever name I come up with...a rose by any other name still smells as sweet, and your 15 is about as sweet as it gets, in my eyes anyway.

Tony

Menemsha69 posted 08-07-2008 04:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Menemsha69  Send Email to Menemsha69     
Tony- Feel free to use the Minitauk[i/] moniker if you like! How about [i]Minituco, or Ministrike? The only problem I had with my 15 was that even a half day fishing wore my back out! A lot of bending involved, as everything in her was "knee-high" or lower. The raised console, and more importantly the raised seat, should alleviate that. Because she is so "tender" side to side, a good solid grabrail on the console is a must. Here are some pics of the Minitauk, that should give you an idea of the grabrail.

http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/ktswhaler15/ Minitauk-1985%2015%20foot%20center%20console/?action=view& current=IMG_8889.jpg

I have never seen another 15 center console with this grabrail, but I am almost positive it is original. As to rigging the battery, I kept mine in the stern, and it worked great back there! The rigging tunnel cover is easily removable if you like, which means you can easily bore a 2 or 3 inch hole through it,under your seat, without compromising the hull. This should keep the wiring neat and tidy under your seat. -k

elaelap posted 08-07-2008 09:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
I wantee, Kevin. That grab rail looks perfect, and something like it is absolutely necessary for my uses, because I'll be running the boat in the Pacific off Bodega Bay and in the often choppy S.F. Bay. And the mahogany seat is beautiful, though I'm going to stick with a cooler seat up forward of the console for storage. Thanks for the photo. If I don't hook into something already fitted, I'll bring it to Svedsen's, take out a second trust deed on my home, and have them make the rails from scratch.

Tony

KeyRat posted 08-14-2008 03:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for KeyRat  Send Email to KeyRat     
Hi Tony,

Congrats on the 15. I actually was in contact with the last three owners (fishcop included) as I was considering buying the boat when it had the 90 on it. Let me know if you want to know more about the boat's history.

Gerrit

high sierra posted 08-14-2008 09:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for high sierra  Send Email to high sierra     
Tony, you'll love the boat! I have the same boat and 60 Yamaha motor. I had it at the rendezvous as you remember. Proping that 60 is a little different than most motors. After about a half dozen props, you arrive at the best of the bunch. Go for less pitch and greater surface area. I was out to Stampede today testing props for the local prop shop. A good excuse to go. As I arrived boats were leaving the water as it was too rough. We launched with spectators watching with much interest about this little boat. I had changed from the lounge chair to nice bucket seats since my back was healed. Amazing how far you can go on 2 gallons of gas. Take care, high sierra ( Jim) PS. I also have an 18 Outrage like yours as I was much inpressed by it.
high sierra posted 08-14-2008 09:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for high sierra  Send Email to high sierra     
PS I also have another fifteen sport I just picked up for sale. high sierra
elaelap posted 08-15-2008 12:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
I'd like to hear more about the boat's history, Gerrit. I'll give you a shout via email. You know, I actually looked at the boat myself maybe a year and a half ago, but I wasn't in a position to immediately repower and I wasn't too hot on the 90 either. I was lucky that a local guy bought the boat soon after from Andy/Fishcop, used it with the 90 for about one year, decided to repower with the Yamaha 60 4/s in June of this year, and then almost immediately had a chance to buy a big trimaran he'd been crewing on forever and loved very much. Bingo...I was in the right place at the right time for once in my life (the seller lives about fifteen minutes from my home) and I saw his craigslist ad and moved real fast. I just brought the boat back today from the local Yamaha dealer after its 20-hour maintenance, and I'm slowly figuring out how to rig it with the chartplotter and VHF from my old Outrage 18 which I sold last year, so I've only put 13 hours on the boat in almost two weeks, half in the ocean and half in the Petaluma River and the S.F. Bay. What a gas!

And sure I remember your very sweet 15 from the NorCal rendezvous two or three years back, Jim. That's probably one reason I bought this one. They are truly unique boats, and this one reminds me a little of my father's old M.G.T-C that I learned to drive on fifty years ago (but let's hope the boat's motor, especially the electric system, is a little more reliable). Maybe it's because there isn't much freeboard at all, even compared with the classic 16s, and because I remember my dad striking wooden matches on the pavement to light his cigarets as he drove the M.G., and maybe it's just the rough-but-nimble ride, but the boat and the old car really seem like long lost cousins, in my mind at least.

Thanks for your continued comments, guys. I'll probably post some more photos when I get the boat together. Tight lines,

Tony

littleblue posted 08-15-2008 04:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for littleblue  Send Email to littleblue     
How is the little boat performing out in the ocean and bay chop?
Lil Whaler Lover posted 08-15-2008 07:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for Lil Whaler Lover  Send Email to Lil Whaler Lover     
Tony,

I have the same boat with the same motor. Try a Solas Stainless Steel 15" pitch. Will hit rev limiter with a very light load. Still gets about 5,900 rpm with 18 gallons of gas and 2 adults and gear on board. It planes off very quickly, just another reason for the grab rail!

elaelap posted 08-15-2008 09:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Yeah, Jim and LWL--propping is an interesting task with this boat/motor combination. I've just moved from the crappy Yamaha white aluminum 17 pitch prop which came with the motor to another crappy Yamaha white aluminum 15 incher, cause I wasn't even breaking 5000 rpm with the 17 (the motor's AC plate is one inch above the bottom of the transom). I haven't had a chance to try the new prop yet, and when I get the turns in the proper general range I'll probably start shopping around for a more expensive prop to fine tune everything. I know from my experience with two other midsize Yamaha four strokes that while their spec'd rpm range is 5000-6000 rpm, Yamaha recommends that the motor be able to get up around six grand with a normal load. I appreciate your suggestions and your experience in this matter.

Tony

elaelap posted 08-15-2008 10:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
I guess I meant "AV plate" rather than "AC"--anti-ventilation rather than anti-cavitation...can anyone tell me the difference and the proper nomenclature?

Tony

Chuck Tribolet posted 08-15-2008 06:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
Ventilation is sucking air down for the surface. Makes the
prop slip and the engine rev.

Cavitation is creating a vacuum on the surface of the prop
blades. Puts pits in the prop. Very noisy on a submarine
trying to go fast. Uncommon on small boats like whalers.


Chuck

elaelap posted 08-15-2008 07:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Thanks, Chuck. AV it is, then.

Tony

elaelap posted 09-12-2008 07:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Here are a couple of current shots of my "new" 15CC, Cetus, after almost one month with 42 hours on the motor. Note the radically raised console and console rails (thanks placerville/Matt!). 41.5 mph/5800 rpm WOT/GPS with a full tank of gas on Lake Sonoma today; warm fresh water, flat calm and hot at 300 ft altitude. I'm still running the somewhat basic--to say the least--white painted Yamaha 15P aluminum prop, and thinking about a change somewhere down the road. All in all I'm very, very pleased with this boat, and I'm beginning to understand all the rave reviews I've read at this website regarding the classic 15 foot hull.

Tony

elaelap posted 09-12-2008 07:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Oh yeah, the pics:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/LakeSonoma15CC017.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/LakeSonoma15CC127.jpg
Rem1319 posted 09-12-2008 10:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rem1319  Send Email to Rem1319     
Fantastic.
How high was the console raised?
Greg
elaelap posted 09-12-2008 11:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
The console had been raised six inches by the guy who bought the boat from Andy/fishcop, Greg. He used a couple of lengths of 1x6 oak with aluminum brackets mounted on the deck and attached to the console. When "we" (Matt and I, with Matt doing the heavy lifting) took the console off we discovered that the oak risers had split lengthwise right along the deck bracket, and the console was being supported mainly by its weight, as well as by two aluminum brackets on the forward edge of the console made fast to the deck there.

I'm six feet tall, and I always stand when cruising at sea, so I decided add another six inches to the console height. I bought two very pricey ($50) 1x12 lengths of Starboard (or whatever they call it at Tap Plastics), and "we" used the same brackets to mount the console on top of the stuff. I cut two wider aluminum brackets to stabilize the console forward, and Bob's yer uncle!, I've got the helm right where I want it when I'm standing up, and it's much more substantial than the previous set-up.

I picked up those rails for another fifty bucks from a local boatyard. For some strange reason they had been stored on the dealer's roof and were in very raggedy shape when I got them, but they cleaned up fine with steel wool and lots of WD40. And what a difference they make, both while cruising in any lump whatsoever, and when moving forward past the console even if drifting in calm water, which was difficult without them in the somewhat tender craft.

The motor is doing just fine, and holds no surprises for me since I had a Yamaha T50 (carbureted High Trust) four stroke on my old Katama and a Yami F115 four stroke EFI on my Outrage 18. Like the other motors, this one starts instantly, runs quiet and smokeless, gets good "mileage", and I especially like the ease of flushing the motors with the nifty and easily-accessed flush ports, identical on each of them.

Happy, happy. But not so happy with Ike pounding the Texas coast...kinda puts other things--including new boats--into perspective, eh?

Tony

Fishcop posted 09-13-2008 12:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for Fishcop  Send Email to Fishcop     
Hey Tuco,

Let me know when you are done playing around with my boat! I want her back ;-)

Very nice job on the console and replacement risers. She sure looks sweet! Throw a SS 17p prop on her and call it a day.

Just be cautious when walking around her in any kind of seas. She is a great ride while running, but not like your other boats at rest while fishing or fighting a fish.

Thanks for keeping us posted with your progress.

Andy

elaelap posted 09-13-2008 11:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
I'm really getting to love "your" boat, Andy, as I get to know her better. Great design and good karma from the prior owners, I guess.

Here's a photo more clearly showing one of the console risers: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/LakeSonoma15CC022.jpg

Tuco

Fishcop posted 09-13-2008 06:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Fishcop  Send Email to Fishcop     
What is that on the starboard side of the console? Looks like a warning sign.....
elaelap posted 09-13-2008 06:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Nothing so interesting, Andy. It's a laminated copy of the boat's registration document.
DeeVee posted 09-14-2008 11:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for DeeVee  Send Email to DeeVee     
Tony,

The 15 is looking very nice. As I remember, running the 15 is a lot like I imagine surfing to be. Standing up on the center line in less than calm water probably feels "right", if you understand what I mean.

One of the reasons I moved up to my Sakonnet was to be able to stand while operating the boat. My 15 Striper had the somewhat low side console. You could operate the boat from a standing position, but I usually only did it while manuevering the boat to the dock or trailer, not in sloppy water.

Once again, she's lookin' good!
Doug

megawhaler posted 09-15-2008 11:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for megawhaler  Send Email to megawhaler     
Not to hijack this thread, but Menemsha69, what's up with the Pate tank, are you still using it?
For all those who think they can get away a while longer with the old, or even newer Pate tanks, just a warning.

I was curious as to how bad the ethenol reacted with the Epoxy. So last summer I removed a 12 Gal tank from my 15. It was less than half full with 10% ethenol diluted Gas.
stood it on its end against the fence in my back yard for the winter. Come this June I opened the lid and looked in.....to my amazement the fiberglass cloth used to form the tank was lifted in Sheets, as if it was wrinkled as it was layed out. I dumped the fuel into another container. It was milky white and small quarter size chunks of soft epoxy kept pouring out. Once they were exposed to the air for a couple of days they hardened up again.
What amazed me the most was that even the portion of the tank that was not submerged in the ethenol laced Gas was also lifting up.

Just some food for thought.
Cheers,
Mark

Menemsha69 posted 09-16-2008 06:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for Menemsha69  Send Email to Menemsha69     
Mark- The Pate tank went with the 15 when I sold it. I never had a problem, but I used the 15 every week, all season, so the ethanol didn't have a chance to sit in the tank for long periods of time. Not sure if this makes a difference, but I never had a problem with ethanol.

Tony- The Cetus sure looks sweet! I sure miss my 15, but I'm loving the "fishability" of my Menemsha. No lower back strain as I can engage in my fishing tasks standing upright. I imagine the raised console and seat makes a big difference in this way as well. I would imagine 41.5 mph is about as good as it gets with your 60 yammi. The best I could get with my 70hp Johnson was 44 mph in perfect conditions, at WOT. Lots of fun chine walking across a smooth lake. Being that low to the water makes it seem like 60mph!-k

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