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TripletRevenge posted 08-31-2008 04:11 PM ET (US)
I was on vacation last week in Sea Isle City NJ. I noticed some Coast Guard activity and quickly spotted a 25 Grady with twins on it's side on a sand bar in Townsend's Inlet. They had the Coast Guard, Marine Police, and the Lifegaurds all helping to rescue the occupants. A Coast Guard helicopter hovered overhead ready to help. After they were removed, Sea Tow waited a half an hour for the incoming tide and towed it in. As the boat approached the draw bridge it nearly submarined totally under. The were able to get it into the bay and beach it on a small island where I would guess they were going to pump it out. I ran up the bridge and took several pictures. I took the pictures with my Whaler visor on.
Brian
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/TripletRevenge/ vacationSeaIsle08089.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/TripletRevenge/ vacationSeaIsle08087.jpg
seabob4 posted 08-31-2008 05:38 PM ET (US)
Great Grady is going to love this.
TripletRevenge posted 08-31-2008 06:34 PM ET (US)
I had to run up the draw bridge to get these. I came to the conclusion the captain did not know the waters well. I think he was fishing for flounder and did not take notice of the breakers. The cabin was full of water and it came so so close to hitting the pillings and going totally under. The NJ State Police Officer deserves a lot of credit as he quickly ran to the hull and pushed it out of the way of the pilling. (By the way, the NJ boats are running E- TEC motors.) I don't take any joy in a guy loosing his boat but I thought some would like to see the pictures.
contender posted 09-01-2008 02:26 PM ET (US)
What cause the boat to take on water? Captain error? Boat come apart?
Tom W Clark posted 09-01-2008 02:50 PM ET (US)
Contrary to what the TOPIC of this thread implies, the Gray White did not sink. It is shown swamped and remaining floating.
To its credit, Grady White builds the 25 foot models with positive flotation even though there is no federal requirement for them to do so.
seabob4 posted 09-01-2008 02:54 PM ET (US)
Tom,
Excellent point. All vessels 20' or larger are NOT required to have positive flotation per Coastie regs. Gradys do. So do Pro-Lines.
TripletRevenge posted 09-01-2008 08:46 PM ET (US)
I am sorry for the my inaccurate title. My point was to share a boating mishap. I don't care about what brand boat it was. I happen to love the Grady and caught a 130 pound big eye on a 24 footer three weeks ago. To answer question about what caused it, I assume it was a captain error. He had twins and I am sure an anchor onboard. I think he either did not know the inlet and or attempted to fish the shallows. There is a net still in the boat.
Newtauk1 posted 09-01-2008 09:04 PM ET (US)
[Changed TOPIC to a discussion about this discussion. Please use the META-Discussion to initiate public dicsussions about the other discussions themselves--jimh]
17 bodega posted 09-02-2008 01:25 AM ET (US)
[Response to the off-TOPIC comments elided.--jimh]
I would have called this boat capsized. Swamped to me is a Montauk with the plug pulled, or a boat that has substantial water on deck and needs pumping. A boat in danger of capsizing if not quickly pumped. In any event, if this boat spends more than 24 hours in this submerged state, I would guess it a near if not total loss for the owner. I hope everyone is OK.
A Boston Whaler capsized, or beached in surf would also most likely be a total loss except the luckiest of situations.
I'll show this photo to a Coast Guard Captain for his opinion on whether this boat is swamped or capsized. Also keep in mind the definition of "swamped" when you read the "swamped capacity" of a vessel. That boat does not appear to have any capacity for passengers other than holding on while floating in the water awaiting rescue.
Newtauk1 posted 09-02-2008 07:41 AM ET (US)
[More off-topic remarks elided--jimh.] I would just hate to be the guy dealing with this problem and having people taking photographs of the bad situation.
pglein posted 09-02-2008 02:53 PM ET (US)
Swamped means that a boat is completely full of water such that the boat has achieved neutral (or negative) buoyancy and water is flowing freely over the gunnels, or through scuppers. If a boat does not have reserve flotation, or the reserve floatation is comprimized, swamping usually results in sinking (negative buoyancy).
Capsizing is when a boat is floating upside down. I would take this to mean that it is rolled at LEAST 90 degrees to one side.
This boat is swamped, not capsized. I don't see why it matters, though. The damage done is significant regardless.
TripletRevenge posted 09-02-2008 05:04 PM ET (US)
I am sorry Newtauk. I must have hit a sore spot with you sharing a bonehead boating mishap.
Newtauk1 posted 09-02-2008 06:25 PM ET (US)
I understand the value of the post regarding safety. I mentioned this on my previous post but Jim deleted it.

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Author	Topic: Sinking Grady
TripletRevenge	posted 08-31-2008 04:11 PM ET (US) I was on vacation last week in Sea Isle City NJ. I noticed some Coast Guard activity and quickly spotted a 25 Grady with twins on it's side on a sand bar in Townsend's Inlet. They had the Coast Guard, Marine Police, and the Lifegaurds all helping to rescue the occupants. A Coast Guard helicopter hovered overhead ready to help. After they were removed, Sea Tow waited a half an hour for the incoming tide and towed it in. As the boat approached the draw bridge it nearly submarined totally under. The were able to get it into the bay and beach it on a small island where I would guess they were going to pump it out. I ran up the bridge and took several pictures. I took the pictures with my Whaler visor on. Brian http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/TripletRevenge/ vacationSeaIsle08089.jpg http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/TripletRevenge/ vacationSeaIsle08087.jpg
seabob4	posted 08-31-2008 05:38 PM ET (US) Great Grady is going to love this.
TripletRevenge	posted 08-31-2008 06:34 PM ET (US) I had to run up the draw bridge to get these. I came to the conclusion the captain did not know the waters well. I think he was fishing for flounder and did not take notice of the breakers. The cabin was full of water and it came so so close to hitting the pillings and going totally under. The NJ State Police Officer deserves a lot of credit as he quickly ran to the hull and pushed it out of the way of the pilling. (By the way, the NJ boats are running E- TEC motors.) I don't take any joy in a guy loosing his boat but I thought some would like to see the pictures.
contender	posted 09-01-2008 02:26 PM ET (US) What cause the boat to take on water? Captain error? Boat come apart?
Tom W Clark	posted 09-01-2008 02:50 PM ET (US) Contrary to what the TOPIC of this thread implies, the Gray White did not sink. It is shown swamped and remaining floating. To its credit, Grady White builds the 25 foot models with positive flotation even though there is no federal requirement for them to do so.
seabob4	posted 09-01-2008 02:54 PM ET (US) Tom, Excellent point. All vessels 20' or larger are NOT required to have positive flotation per Coastie regs. Gradys do. So do Pro-Lines.
TripletRevenge	posted 09-01-2008 08:46 PM ET (US) I am sorry for the my inaccurate title. My point was to share a boating mishap. I don't care about what brand boat it was. I happen to love the Grady and caught a 130 pound big eye on a 24 footer three weeks ago. To answer question about what caused it, I assume it was a captain error. He had twins and I am sure an anchor onboard. I think he either did not know the inlet and or attempted to fish the shallows. There is a net still in the boat.
Newtauk1	posted 09-01-2008 09:04 PM ET (US) [Changed TOPIC to a discussion about this discussion. Please use the META-Discussion to initiate public dicsussions about the other discussions themselves--jimh]
17 bodega	posted 09-02-2008 01:25 AM ET (US) [Response to the off-TOPIC comments elided.--jimh] I would have called this boat capsized. Swamped to me is a Montauk with the plug pulled, or a boat that has substantial water on deck and needs pumping. A boat in danger of capsizing if not quickly pumped. In any event, if this boat spends more than 24 hours in this submerged state, I would guess it a near if not total loss for the owner. I hope everyone is OK. A Boston Whaler capsized, or beached in surf would also most likely be a total loss except the luckiest of situations. I'll show this photo to a Coast Guard Captain for his opinion on whether this boat is swamped or capsized. Also keep in mind the definition of "swamped" when you read the "swamped capacity" of a vessel. That boat does not appear to have any capacity for passengers other than holding on while floating in the water awaiting rescue.
Newtauk1	posted 09-02-2008 07:41 AM ET (US) [More off-topic remarks elided--jimh.] I would just hate to be the guy dealing with this problem and having people taking photographs of the bad situation.
pglein	posted 09-02-2008 02:53 PM ET (US) Swamped means that a boat is completely full of water such that the boat has achieved neutral (or negative) buoyancy and water is flowing freely over the gunnels, or through scuppers. If a boat does not have reserve flotation, or the reserve floatation is comprimized, swamping usually results in sinking (negative buoyancy). Capsizing is when a boat is floating upside down. I would take this to mean that it is rolled at LEAST 90 degrees to one side. This boat is swamped, not capsized. I don't see why it matters, though. The damage done is significant regardless.
TripletRevenge	posted 09-02-2008 05:04 PM ET (US) I am sorry Newtauk. I must have hit a sore spot with you sharing a bonehead boating mishap.
Newtauk1	posted 09-02-2008 06:25 PM ET (US) I understand the value of the post regarding safety. I mentioned this on my previous post but Jim deleted it.