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jimh posted 10-11-2008 01:56 PM ET (US)   Profile for jimh   Send Email to jimh  
I am spending this beautiful fall weekend cleaning up the boat and getting it ready for winter storage. It seems like a shame to waste the 78-degree summer-like temperatures, but the time has come.

Thanks to the relentless recording keeping of my NAVMAN 3100 FUEL instrument, I can give you the following data on my boating season:

Seasonal Data 2008
------------------
Gallons used = 427 gallons
Total log = 843.4 miles
Total hours = 68.8 hours

Average fuel economy = 1.98-MPG
Average speed = 12.25 MPH
Average fuel flow = 6.2 GPH

This was a good year for boating for us. We used the boat more than last year, were underway longer and went farther. We used more gas, too, but we got better fuel economy, thanks to a late-season boost from the E-TEC motor we were testing.

It is fun keeping track of all this data. I never realized how much additional fun the NAVMAN 3100 FUEL instrument could provide, besides its real-time fuel economy measurement.

If there is more good weather ahead this fall, I will have to rely on my friends for a boat ride. Dave? Pat? Jeff?

How about the rest of you northern boaters--are you still in the water and ready to go?

mateobosch posted 10-11-2008 02:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for mateobosch  Send Email to mateobosch     
Jim,
I am heading out to do some boating in Estes Park, Colorado next weekend. The mountains have a lot of snow already and it is getting very chilly out here even at the base of the mountains.

Like last year, my boating never really ends. I will fish and boat in the rivers all winter as long as I can find a ramp that will let me in.

I would be glad to give anyone a winter ride out here in CO if they pull through.

Cheers,

Matt

MarthaB posted 10-11-2008 03:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for MarthaB  Send Email to MarthaB     
Depending on Sunday's weather, this may have been BW1's last splash of the season. It was a whole lot nicer today than it was last weekend during the N. Mich. Inland waterway cruise from Mullett Lake to Alanson and back.

http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o226/Martha49682/Fall%202008/

Last weekend's cruise on the Crooked River.
http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o226/Martha49682/ Mullett%20Lake%202008/?action=view¤t=DSCF0098.jpg

an86carrera posted 10-11-2008 03:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for an86carrera  Send Email to an86carrera     
Sorry to hear about you northern boaters. Nick (Tohsgib) and I just had a mini rendezvous at beercan island today. 85 degrees and sunny people were swimming in the 75 degree water.

If any of you need a break in the winter I'm sure one of us can help with a boat ride if you make the trip down. Good luck with your winterizing chores.

Len

tombro posted 10-11-2008 05:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
I am still in my slip, and was out on the windy North Atlantic this morning. Caught about 30 mixed fish, nothing big, but glad to be holding onto the season.
As a matter of fact, I will likely be out on Barnegat Bay tomorrow.
I will probably get three more weekends out of this year, before drydock until April.
whaler131 posted 10-11-2008 08:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for whaler131  Send Email to whaler131     
Well I put my 22 to bed for the winter last weekend. Looks like lake Erie would have been a great place to be this weekend. One good thing is I have my 11 ready to take down to Fl. in 28 days. I plan in using it this winter when I can get there. So If you plan an outing this winter at beer can let me know I will be a Ruskin.
kwik_wurk posted 10-12-2008 12:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for kwik_wurk  Send Email to kwik_wurk     
I hoisted my Montauk last weekend; and the big boat just got put on blocks yesterday (time for new bottom paint).

I put ~400 hrs on the Montauk (main and kicker). That is the most I think I will ever be able to put on my Montauk in one season. (I'll get some stats on my fuel consumption, but it'll be estimate based on fuel receipts.)

I commuted to work 4 days a week from June - Sept. and it was incredibly great way to start the day at work. I usually went ~15 knts; and it took exactly 35-45 mintues one-way from enigne "on" to engine "off". I had a lot of "no wake" motoring, about 15 minutes. Getting to the marina was 2-3 mintues, walking to work was ~5-7 minutes.

The worst weather was a 30 knot breaze that I had to take on the forward port quarter. A lot of banging around.

Needless to say, the engines need some a good tune up.

Hopefull winter projects are new wiring, and new GPS. (I got the bow wiring replaced last winter season; and I was suprised the old suff even worked.)

OHIO15 posted 10-12-2008 07:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for OHIO15  Send Email to OHIO15     
from another northern boater,
the blowboat was put on the hard last tuesday and my neglected montauk was splashed yesterday in the muskingum river. we traveled to the ohio river then to parkersburgh w.va for lunch. from there back up river to the local beercan island.(north of marietta)for beach coaming and a nap. from there back up the muskingum to the 1st lock then home. flat water and 81 degrees. a great whaler day.
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RFK posted 10-12-2008 08:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for RFK  Send Email to RFK     
From northern Illinois. Nancy and I are still planning for more boating. We have been out on our little Rock River with friends both Friday and Saturday afternoon. Many beautiful trees along the river and people in various stages of preparing for winter. The water has a bit of chill in it already and the consequence is easy clean-up, no algae.

We go out about 3 and stay out through the sunset, so the feel of Indian Summer is there. Marvelous. Comes with cheese, crackers, beer or wine.

jamesmylesmcp posted 10-12-2008 09:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
Here in Connecticut we still have a few weeks to go. Yesterday saw 75 degrees and a boat ride to assist my 8 year old as she worked on her school project. She needed to find pictures of nouns so off we went to gather pictures of Islands,Tugs,and Lighthouses a great day on the water as the GPS passed 3000 miles thusfar this season.
sapple posted 10-12-2008 09:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
As of two weeks ago I put 130 hrs on the Montauk for about 1100 miles. I don't have electronic monitoring of fuel consumption but assume I averaged about 4-5 mpg.

Last weekend I put about 10 more hours on the boat. My wife shot this picture of me from the dock.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc264/sapple2/Scott%20in%20boat/ IMG_3467c.jpg

Still nice weather here in Virginia. We plan to go out for a few hours this afternoon.

Tom Hemphill posted 10-12-2008 11:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom Hemphill    
I'm curious if those like jimh who keep careful records, later apply for a refund of road-use fuel taxes paid on fuel used in your boat. (I don't use enough fuel to make it worth my time keeping receipts.)
chopbuster posted 10-12-2008 01:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for chopbuster    
It's been in the mid seventies all this past week, down here at the end of the world, Cape May, NJ.

They're calling for a high of 79 tomorrow, when I'll be launching.

What's winterization ?

bkovak posted 10-12-2008 08:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for bkovak  Send Email to bkovak     
Like Chopbuster, I'll be boating in NJ bays and the Delaware river right through the fall and into the winter. Had very good striper fishing last year right up to Christmas week and even into January! Although, I'll probably make the trek down to Florida in February again for some warm weather R&R ... Brian
AtoZ posted 10-12-2008 09:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for AtoZ  Send Email to AtoZ     
Well, I put my Montauk up last weekend but I couldn't pass up this great weather. It was 82 degrees at St. Joe, MI today and the lake was flat. It was great to get some sun this late in the season. After getting to the launch ramp, it took 2 minutes to winterize my E-Tech.
Ridge Runner posted 10-12-2008 10:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ridge Runner  Send Email to Ridge Runner     
Saturday; saw stiff breeze at 15knts from the south with bright blue skies and 73 degrees. We had some friends in town from Wisconsin, took them in the Conquest 295 across Raritan bay into NY harbor. Got some great pic's by the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge, Statue of Liberty, South Street Sea Port, Brooklyn Bridge then up the Hudson River past the USS Intrepid, Grant's Tomb, George Washington Bridge it was a nice trip and the trees where just starting to change. This was thier first time to NYC and it was a great way to show them the City. My boats in the water until the end of November, so a few more weekends then down to boating and fishing in Port Charlotte, FL.
paddyt111 posted 10-12-2008 10:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for paddyt111  Send Email to paddyt111     
The weather was cool but gorgeous here in Newfoundland today. and the bay was a sheet of glass. I was envious as I looked out onto the water wishing I could be out there. It can be fun this time of year if you dress for the cool weather.

As for my boat, like you Jim, it is time to put her to bed.
Pat

chopbuster posted 10-13-2008 12:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for chopbuster    
Not only is the weather great but so are the gas prices at the local shell, $2.87 pg.
20dauntless posted 10-13-2008 02:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for 20dauntless    
This is one of the reasons I wish Whaler made a pilothouse boat. We will use the C-Dory the whole winter. The Wallas heater and stove will keep the pilothouse warm and it will be nice to putter along, even if it is below freezing out. The Whaler will be long since put away. If only Whaler made a pilothouse boat in the low to mid 20 foot range...
Sal A posted 10-13-2008 08:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Sal A  Send Email to Sal A     
I piloted the Mary Alice on Saturday to my dealer, to haul out and fix some warranty issues. It is sad I have not been able to use her more this fall due to my kids' sports. It was a beautiful peaceful last ride though, as I took the long way home.

I hope you all are enjoying your boats.

jmorgan40 posted 10-13-2008 09:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for jmorgan40  Send Email to jmorgan40     
Although I truly miss the Northeast and the Jersey Shore, I love being able to boat year round in the southeast. One of the things I enjoy about the Atlanta area is we get the four seasons but the weather remains mild enough to boat and fish year round.

Freshwater striper fishing on Lanier is great but I do miss the salt air. Taking one last trip to the panhandle of Florida next week before Red Snapper season closes on Nov. 1. The wife and I were down there 2 1/2 weeks ago and did great fishing. Then it will be Lanier all winter for Stripers. This is my favorite time of year on Lanier. Great fishing and no boat or PWC traffic.

Then Hopefully the Gulf Coast whaler crew will have another Homossassa gathering in Feb or March. Last year was a blast and I hope to talk some more of the Lanier crew into the drive down.

If you are in the Atlanta area this winter and miss whalering, drop me a line and maybe we can hook up out on Lanier.
Joe

JMARTIN posted 10-13-2008 06:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
Tom, you can only get the Federal Excise tax of .183 cents per gallon on gasoline back if the boat is used for commercial fishing.

I only know Washington rules for the State Motor Fuel tax of .375 cents per gallon. Yes you can apply for a refund, but they are going to apply sales tax to it if they are refunding the Motor Fuel tax.

Example: You paid 4.75 a gallon for marina gasoline. The state will take the 4.75 and deduct .183 Fed and .375 state and get 4.192 for the sales taxable amount. 4.192 times the sales tax rate of at least 8% only nets you back about .04 cents a gallon.

If the price of fuel drops, you get more per gallon back because the Motor Fuel tax is fixed per gallon and the sales tax is a percentage.

John

vayase posted 10-13-2008 09:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for vayase  Send Email to vayase     
This is as good a time as any to provide a hearty THANKS
to ALL who have posted on the various columns within this
website! After a 20 yr. hiatus from boating, I purchased a
new 13' Sport to enjoy in several areas:(ocean~north county
San Diego), Colorado river, (leaving for later this week), and lakes~Mead, Powell, etc. Since buying this "pocket rocket" in june, I've found your positive commentaries
invaluable! I have bought a new camera which I hope to use for "fun boating experiences". I was able to outfit it with
your advice on every level, saving me from a lot of grief
by trying to "wing it" with dire consequences! I finally finished all of my installations, including a new towing
boat cover, last week....again - thanks to you.
My first installation was an AYHF meter with the following
results:
1. Number of trips: 9.
2. Total Gallons of fuel used: approx. 7 2/3; (+/- 8.5%)
3. Miles traveled: A Bunch.
4. Miles per gallon: Beats Me!
5. Average length of trip: Just Enough!
6. Average cost per trip: Could Care Less!
7. Number of trips per week: I Forgot!
8. Value of boat: PRICELESS!
* You can get a free AYHF meter by getting in your boat!
(A-are, Y-you, H-having, F-fun).

Happy & Safe Boating!

Vayase

RandyV posted 10-14-2008 09:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for RandyV  Send Email to RandyV     
I can't tell you exactly many hours in my Montauk this season but I'd guess at least 100 or so. Two weekends with the family having fun - Torch Lake is absolutely beautiful it is truely a must see location. The rest was spent walleye fishing in Lake Erie.

It is not yet put away for the year. Fall Walleye should get good again in a couple of weeks and I'll be out as much as possible until there is ice on the water but I won't make the same mistake as I did last winter and attempt to break 1" ice just to get into open water. I spent too much time repairing gel coat last winter to do that again.

GBayWhaler posted 10-16-2008 01:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for GBayWhaler  Send Email to GBayWhaler     
JimH,

Isn't there some way you can segregate replys for a thread like this one? Say,... keep Len, Nick, and all other BlueHair Floridians from crashing our Wake, as we mourn the death of another great season of boating? LOL.

Len,

Thanks again for a great outing last Christmas. My son and I still talk about it as one of the highlights of our "JimmyBuffet Christmas".

I will put 10+ hours on the boat this weekend starting tonight, boating with a great group of guys between Honey Harbour and Sans Soucis in Southern Georgian Bay. it is an annual event where we boat, hike the crown lands, explore and catch up. Sharing the ups and downs of life.

I'll put the boat away in mid November, when the marina calls to indicate the batteries are coming out of the forklift, and it is now or not at all.

Safe boating to all, wherever it may be!

Stuart

Tohsgib posted 10-16-2008 02:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I did not say a word! My boat will be coming out next week...for a quick wash and wax and back up on the lift until the next time it turns green. Did 4.5 trips to beercan which is mainly cruising 45-60 minutes each way. Filled it up and took a whopping 26.3 gallons which gives me an average of less than 4gph per fill.
pstollie posted 10-16-2008 03:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for pstollie    
Not giving up on the season just yet. Heading up north on Saturday to Lake Of the Woods for a full week of boating/fishing in near freezing temps. Might even have to shovel snow out of the boat if we're lucky.
Brian7son posted 10-16-2008 04:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Brian7son  Send Email to Brian7son     
I guess it's a trade off. I never have to worry about winterizing my boat for storage. I can use it year round. You guys on the other hand, never have to worry about a hurricane blowing your boat and house away. I got hit hard twice in 2004 with Francis and Jeanne.
Blackduck posted 10-17-2008 04:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Blackduck  Send Email to Blackduck     
Fishing is just getting good in Rhode Island. I'll probably keep the boat in the water until the 15th of November. Going to put my new, to me, Outrage in next weak to mark her bottom for barrier and bottom paint, so I can get right on it when the weather breaks next spring.
sapple posted 10-17-2008 07:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
Brian7son, I respectfully disagree. I was raised in Florida and went to school in Buffalo, NY. Its not a trade off and there is no comparison. Given a choice, I'll take Florida every time! Here in Virgina I am hoping to squeeze in at least one more weekend of boating even though the weather turned lousy today.
Casco Bay Outrage posted 10-17-2008 07:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Casco Bay Outrage  Send Email to Casco Bay Outrage     
Brian -

We just dodged a Hurricane a few weeks ago : ~ ) but your right. We have Nor'easter's instead.


dnh posted 10-21-2008 10:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for dnh  Send Email to dnh     
I've been off the site for a while, working etc.

I am too lazy to keep records. However, I finally have hour meters. Last year, put 200 hours (total) on two whalers: marriage not doing as well. This year, put about 100 hours (total) on two whalers: marriage doing better, I not doing as well.

Not sure what to make of it.

Ritzyrags posted 10-21-2008 10:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
DNH

Glad to see that you have two Whalers.
Maybe it's time to get a larger one and to take your wife boating with you.
Usually the gals don't manning the helm.

Ritzyrags posted 10-21-2008 11:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
DNH

Glad to see that you have two Whalers.
Maybe it's time to get a larger one and to take your wife boating with you.
Usually the gals don't mind manning the helm.

Bella con23 posted 10-21-2008 11:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bella con23  Send Email to Bella con23     
I had a very successful year with this 23 Conquest.
We fished stripers, fluke, blues, seabass, with friends and family.
We hauled it down to Cape Hatteras and fished the "Gulf Stream" for the first Mahi over the rail.
We circled Manhattan Island with fellow CW'ers.
We almost sunk it at the dock forgetting the plug for a night...had it been anything but a Boston Whaler.
And now it is prematurely on my side yard getting it's first polishing and wax in nine years.
This is a great boat!
Joe
Contender25 posted 10-21-2008 11:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Contender25  Send Email to Contender25     
I put 100 hours on my offshore 27 up here in Rhode Island, burned more fuel than I am willing to put in writing and have many fond memories from the summer.
Unlike past seasons I am not winterizing and have decided to heed the advice of our Florida bretheren and I am shipping her to Key West for the winter. I am looking forward to a 10 mile trip to the edge as opposed to a 80 mile trip!!
Kencvit posted 10-22-2008 12:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Kencvit  Send Email to Kencvit     
I`m still in hoping for another week at Lake of The Woods, Kenora. Walleye fishing is very good right now .
Weather forecast is -5 celsius the next few nights ...but no snow yet.
I was fishing at Eagles Pass last weekend which can be a busy spot in the summer.
We saw only one other boat that evening .... a nice classic Montauk 17 came buzzing through as we were fishing at the entrance. Was is someone from here?
fourdfish posted 10-23-2008 11:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for fourdfish  Send Email to fourdfish     
Winterized the boat today! It was a bit sad!
Will enjoy my friends boat in Fl this winter.
jimh posted 10-24-2008 12:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
There is a chance of snow in the forecast for this weekend. The fall weather has been beautiful so far. I probably should have waited another two weeks.
dscew posted 10-24-2008 09:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for dscew  Send Email to dscew     
I'll be yanking our little Katama on Sunday, but it will sit at the ready in the event we get nice weather in November (and we usually do!). There is nothing like late fall boating on a crisp but sunny day.
RandyV posted 10-24-2008 04:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for RandyV  Send Email to RandyV     
Still too early to put the Montauk away. It was 28 deg on Wed morning when we launched in Lake Erie but before noon we had our limit of Walleye and Smallmouth bass.

It is brisk this time of year but I would not miss any available free time on the water for anything (don't tell my wife). Plus, my 13 year old son is still begging for a couple days off school to get on the water again before winter hits. School is important but getting on the water is an education for the inquisitive sponge brain of his.

jimp posted 10-24-2008 05:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
You guys are slow. I've been winterized and covered for the winter since the 3rd week in September.

Interesting that we had our first frost two days later and it's rained for the last 28 days (14.0" of rain since Sep 25, including 1.92" yesterday, winds 25 gusting to 55 mph, and the Gulf Alaska had STORM warnings and seas to 34'). And, during my lunchtime walk today we had some snow flurries.

May is right around the corner.

JimP

chopbuster posted 10-24-2008 05:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for chopbuster    
West Marine has a video and checklist for those unfortunates who need to winterize in October !

http://tinyurl.com/65jgvx

They also offer a free comprehensive 12 page winterizing checklist in partnership with Seaworthy (BoatU.S.) insurance publications, available in stores.

N/A

Rich M posted 10-24-2008 06:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Rich M  Send Email to Rich M     
We used the weather window of last Wensday to pull the boat. It was a very pleasant fall fishing season this year with a lot of sunny windless days and very good colors.

A gale watch has just been issued for Monday, this weekend a lot of stragglers are going to be scrambling during the building storm.

K Albus posted 10-25-2008 11:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
I'm still holding out for one more boating trip in Southeastern Michigan. Unfortunately it's not going to happen this weekend. Lake St. Clair has a Small Craft Advisory for today, and Gale Warnings for tomorrow. If next weekend's forecast is not looking good by Wednesday, I will call it quits for this year.
Tom W Clark posted 10-25-2008 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
We have had calm dry weather here in Seattle the last several days. I am looking forward to sunshine and mid 60's degree weather next week here just south of the Canadian border.

This Northern boater will be boating all winter.

Buckda posted 10-25-2008 03:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
I'm holding out as well. I should have the boat put away around Thanksgiving, but until then, she's going to be ready to go if we have a nice weekend.

If next weekend is clear, I'll be in SE Michigan for some boating.

Dave

MDI posted 10-25-2008 04:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for MDI  Send Email to MDI     
We cruised to Blake Island last Saturday the 18th, it was beautiful, sunny, and mid 50's. Very nice. Not many boats at the docks there, either. Walked the beach, took some pics, had lunch, it was short sleeve weather inside the basin there out of the wind. Perfect fall day in the NW. We will be boating all winter, also.

When the ice gets too thick, Dave, fly out and go boating with us.

Mark

jamesmylesmcp posted 10-25-2008 05:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
We're done here, a few miles passed beneath the keel http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=2009miles-1.jpg that picture was taken a few hundred miles ago. This year we ventured to New Jersey and found Dolphins stranded in a river,cruised around N.Y. City with some friends went East to Stallwagen Bank to view whales and then futher East to cruise the Maine Coast.The memories are lifelong and my kids are addicted to the adventure.
Recently I had thoughts of selling the old girl but where we've been and what it cost just couldn't happen in any other craft.
jimh posted 10-25-2008 05:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Tom and others in the Pacific Northwest are the beneficiaries of a micro-climate which creates a little temperate rain forest for them. While we're at a lower latitude, we don't get that moderation from the Pacific Ocean. Boating in November through March is for the diehard or commercial boater on the Great Lakes.

For us the weather period right ahead is very dangerous. The worst maritime disasters on the Great Lakes have all occurred on the 9th through the 11th of November.

--The Armistice Day Storm, November 11, 1940: 5 vessels, 66 lives lost;

--The Edmund Fitzgerald, November 10, 1975: 29 lives;

--The Great Storm of 1913, November 9-10, 1913: 19 vessels, over 250 lives lost.

Also lost in November:

--The Carl Bradley, November 18, 1958: 33 lives lost.

If you want to go boating on the northern Great Lakes in November, be very careful what day you pick.

Roarque posted 10-25-2008 07:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Roarque  Send Email to Roarque     
Five salmon caught ( and released ) right in front of our local submarine base here in Nanoose Bay, B.C. during the morning of Sat Oct 25th several minutes north of the 49th parallel.

Yes Jim you're right about our little micro-climate. Please don't tell any of those Canucks in Eastern Ontario-we've convinced tham that it rains and snows out here all winter.

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