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Ritzyrags |
posted 10-14-2008 04:45 PM ET (US)
Hey Guys. First off, since I've been remiss in giving Big thanks to Tony for helping me reposting my photo. You are a good lad Tony! Secondly. do you want to talk about your boat? This should really be a shoo-in since I don't know a single mariner that doesn't have a great boat related story to share. I am sure that Jim, Jeff, Scott and Rob to name just a few would have some very interesting words about their prizes possessions, their beloved Whalers. So to coin a very popular phrase; come on down, you are the next participant as the "place is right." |
deepwater |
posted 10-14-2008 06:26 PM ET (US)
The day i picked up my whaler i couldn't keep my eyes off the rear view mirror,, it was like a dream following behind me and if i took my eyes of her she would be gone in the blink of an eye like a dream,, we have been many places starting in 1989 and now we have many more to see up here in Maine |
jamesmylesmcp |
posted 10-15-2008 09:56 AM ET (US)
Serge,you bring up a good subject,a day I'll never forget ! Back in 2005 I was at the helm of my 1972 Boston Whaler Bass boat on Lake Lanier in Georgia with my kids onboard for the first time. They were all smiles from ear to ear a look that answered my prayers as I had recently become a single father in need of an activity fun for all.It was about this time that I happened upon this site and discovered "Cetecea" and soon identified just what we needed. I needed an old Outrage and wouldn't settle for anything but. Well we moved East pulling the 17 to Connecticut.The boat was a good one but not kid friendly at all with it's raised decks,boating slowed down as it just wasn't safe with 2 small kids on Lond Island Sound. I had a friend who worked as a visiting nurse and sent her a picture of what I needed in a boat(a ribside from Cetecea)she opened the picture from her laptop at a patient's home,the ailing woman saw the picture and directed her towards the barn! Walla...dust covered without power sat my future craft. The hull had a registration sticker from 1986. The property was for sale and the boat needed to go,soon! I was there with a friends pickup the next day still unawear of what lie beneath the dirt. We hooked up the old trailer and pulled her into daylight she looked nasty. A tire went flat,the tongue snapped and thus began a day from hell trailering home on backroads for 50 miles creeking and woobling down the road.It was the next day when we put a hose to her and couldn't believe what was beneath the filth ! The rest is history and has provided the kids and I with countless hours of enjoyment and a lifetime of memories. |
jeffs22outrage |
posted 10-15-2008 10:10 AM ET (US)
God Jim, that is a great story. After our phone call last week I realized I forgot to ask you how you got your boat. Now I know....It is funny how things work out. |
jamesmylesmcp |
posted 10-15-2008 03:53 PM ET (US)
Oh Serge,I just came across this picture another memorable day as the complete refit began.Here the old girl was pushed back on the trailer 2 feet and raised on a ramp system to allow the Sodablast crew to remove the bottom paint, when they finished I cranked her foward to expose the remaining paint,worked like a charm. http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=sodablasting.jpg This was only the beginning of upgrading every system on the boat...upgrade hell it's all new ! Bottom,wires,fuel system,engine,steering everything but retained the vintage look ! Now go to it ! |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-15-2008 05:11 PM ET (US)
Wow Jim, I didn't realize that your Girl has had that kind of refit! Ouch me lad, you got me paying attention now. You will have to tell me more and please don't hurry as I really enjoy to hear the details of it all. I know for sure that you have some very interesting facts to share with us about your beloved Girl. Did I forget to mention that your Girl had my most five Star vote for the Calendar? This on will be a very Good one Jim. You're on a roll My Friend. Serge. |
jamesmylesmcp |
posted 10-15-2008 07:35 PM ET (US)
-Sodablasted botton applied Interlux Interprotect sanded between coats 3 and 4 buffed coat 5 with pumice. -Pettit Vivid Black applied, first coat sanded 2nd coat thinned then 3rd and remains shining today(sailboat trick) -Fuel tanks removed and replaced with newly mfg 20 gallon aluminium saddles.(provides in excess of 200 mile range) -Batteries(Dual) moved to the console with perco switch -Garmin 498 installed -Vhf under console/galaxy antenea -1000 watt stereo/CD system with 4 speakers(well hidden) -New 2006 Optimax 150Hp -Complete Smartcraft gauges -Seastar Hydralic Sreering with 2.6 Helm(thanks Seabob) -Ritehite Jackplate -Complete Mills weather system -new windscreen (Mills) -New tandem bunk trailer -LED deck lighting -Twin bilge pumps 1100gph 1 auto 1 manual -New cushions, seat back with name -foward tri-fold bed(stowes under bow) -Porti-potti (fits under bow) -aux 10 gallon fuel tanks(10 under each aft quarter) -Completely refit stock downriggers mfg'd by Riviera - removed all wood and refinished -replaced Logo -Raycor fuel/water separator -5 gallon oil tank Well thats just off the top of my head ! The boat is in perpetual refit and seems it will never be complete this winter will see chrome work to all deck fittings. Serge, you see some lurk here and just absorb info only to someday down the raod post a picture of what they've done, only as result to the valued input from everybody here. |
jamesmylesmcp |
posted 10-15-2008 07:42 PM ET (US)
Oh,Serge, I took this picture for you tonight,this since April of this year ! Imagine last year we only did 2800 ! http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=2009miles.jpg Ahhh...the fruits of the effort ! |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-16-2008 12:59 AM ET (US)
Well it is a fact that I am not going to cut in when you two are dancing!! You have done some good and commendable work my friend. There must have been some specifics that you had difficulties in solving.. For example here, there is no such option as powder blasting. If needed I would have to get it done by yours truly. Any contractual problems encountered? |
jamesmylesmcp |
posted 10-16-2008 08:50 AM ET (US)
Soda-Blasting is not enviornmentally friendly thus creating the majority of the expense here's how it's done. http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=boat-9-tented-d.jpg The crew that came to my home had none of these concerns. http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=sodablasting.jpg The equipment is big,noisey and makes a mess. http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=sodablaster.jpg I found these guys after I had given up hope on having this done as quotes for the job were around $2200. These guys did it for less than $500. The boat was hoisted into the air per their request and then the calls started,we're sick,too wet,won't start on and on for three weeks. I became nervous with each passing day as I would look at the boat winched up in a tree. Then call came in out of the blue,we're coming ! Are your neighbors home? This was my first clue. Upon arrival they positioned the Budweiser first all three cracked one open and began cursing,second clue.The machine was fired up and soon a cloud much like a dense fog drifted away from the boat the noise was much like that of a runway at Laguardia. The one with the rubber bands on his beard just looked and cursed as the others without masks or any protective gear took on the appearance of bakers in a flour fight. Between the cloud appeared a clean hull and in less than an hour they suddenly packed up and left without a word.I then stood in awe at a perfectly clean hull,then picked up the empty beer cans and hosed off the area. That was two years ago and I have yet needed to cut the lawn in that area of the yard. These guys are still around and friends of mine have simular stories always with the phone call "are your neighbors home?" |
skred |
posted 10-16-2008 09:09 AM ET (US)
Hey Serge: I sold my 16 Dauntless to a chap in Campbell River... Know him? |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-16-2008 09:22 AM ET (US)
This is real good stuff Jim. The way that you recount it ..I can just picture it and so does the rest of the guys reading here I am sure.It reminds me of "Pigpen" in the Charlie Brown cast of characters. It's a good thing that I don't require that service as my hull is in reasonably good shape . There never was any anti fouling paint on it as the unit was always hauled out after usage.This specific area will have nevertheless the same treatment as the cap did.Every square inch will be sanded, cosmetically attended to and refreshed with gelcoat. So afterward, did you contract a hull resurfacing or did you just polished and waxed? Any other areas as the deck got some TLC? I will be looking for some whaler logos for the stern areas. They seems to be eluding me at this time. Your Girl,canvas and all looks just great today. Hope that you won't mind me using her just for fun as my front desk background lately. What else have you encountered? |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-16-2008 09:30 AM ET (US)
Hey Skred, It would help me a bit if you gave me a name. Campbell is a township of 37,000 people but there is a possibility.. |
BBS |
posted 10-16-2008 10:11 AM ET (US)
I grew up in the northeast and always wanted a Whaler. I have been living on the Texas coast for the past 20 years boatless. One day, I saw a 1989 Outrage 18 parked on the side of the road with a for sale sign. I passed it every day for 2 weeks but kept on replaying the "we can't afford it" reply I imagined my wife would throw down. One morning at work my phone rang..it was my wife. She said "I was taking Gracie to school this morning and saw a boat for sale. Have you seen it? You should call." It was like a message from God. 6 years later and I can't imagine trading it for anything. |
Tohsgib |
posted 10-16-2008 11:28 AM ET (US)
I've owned 19 Whalers and currently have 4 in my yard...not enough bandwidth here for my stories. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-16-2008 02:52 PM ET (US)
I really enjoy hearing all your stories, and I'm sure that the guys think that it's great fun. In these uncertain times what's life without getting some light sided news? I had just a hoot reading about the soda blasting crew, an haywired lot for sure but still very useful for the work that they do. BBS's good story literally sounded like an answer from his prayers.You gotta like that..and I do. It really tickle me to hear that some of us have more than one classy lady under our care; As you really got to be doing something right when you own more then one Whaler. There is always a right time for our favorite Whaler stories and the ticket here is in the sharing of our favorite ones..if it feels right and inclined to do so. These are the things that we have in common. |
Whalerdog |
posted 10-16-2008 06:36 PM ET (US)
I went for a ride in a 13' Whaler in 1968 with a 33 Johnson. When I thought the boat was going under the next wave it when over it. I raced and owned 25' Checkmate, 28' Checkmate, 24' Skater, 32' Skater, and 36' Skater. One boat ran 145 mph. I have four APBA World Championships and a room full of trophies. I stopped in 2000. I am living on the water and the longing for a boat took hold again. I wanted some thing to just go in the ocean and play. The Montauk 19 was to me a classic Whaler design I rode in years ago. It was cheap and basically maintenance free. I thought of getting a bigger Whaler vee bottom but decide the price was way more and I would need rougher water to have fun. I also toyed with a used 24' Skater. That would eat gas like mad and require rebuilt lower units fairly often as I would be running it hard along with other parts as in racing. Friends told me you nuts you'll sell the Whaler in a month it is not fast enough. You all may think I am nuts but I like running in big waves for a thrill. Finishing my second season and I love my Whaler. I drop it off some big 6-8' waves that are breaking. I also get some bigger ones I like to surf in with the boat. I am totally amazed what the boat can go through. The boat is just solid and hits with a thud. To date I don't have a hairline crack in the transom. It is simply a great boat design and build process. Finish and hardware are first class. The boat runs a long time on 50 bucks worth of gas. It can go through some real snotty water safely. So from 145 mph to 39-40 mph I am still glad I bought the 19 Montauk. I can go and run in the bay with 3 footers and still have a thrill. I think it is 35' because I saw a 19 and thought it was a 15 or 17 till the girlfriend told me it is a 19. Just having fun as my other friends plan a trip with the cost of gas in their 35-40 boats i can drop the ropes and run daily ven for 30 minutes is a relieve. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-17-2008 12:21 AM ET (US)
I'm still enjoying just as ever hearing of your experiences, events and your favorite Whalers. Craig, a buddy of mine working at my place of employment just happened to be a veteran Salmon Fishing Guide out of the old Painter's Lodge in good old CR. It goes a long way to say that If looked after properly and treated with care and respect these boats will last you a life time. |
OIA |
posted 10-17-2008 12:48 AM ET (US)
Serge: Great topic, but I have to agree with Tohsgib, how much time you got. They're amazing vessels. They will, literally, take you anywhere you want to go. Minimal fuel and maintenance, maximum safety, incredible fun. Waterskiing Lake Powell, midnight trips to Catalina with a rising full moon, fishing, scuba diving, whale watching, playing with dolphin, harbor cruising. I used to drive my 17 Montauk to work once a week, an hour each way. I proposed to my wife on The Whaler, spent my bachelor party on The Whaler, part of my wedding day was spent on The Whaler. Now my five year old's favorite thing to do is go to Catalina Island on The Whaler, just ask him. And, then there was the trip around the United States, Only In America. The Whaler is one of my oldest and dearest friends and I cannot imagine my life without that molded piece of fiberglass with the center console, reversible seat, gas tank and outboard sitting on the transom. John Mirassou
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Ritzyrags |
posted 10-17-2008 01:32 AM ET (US)
John, I know the sound of truth when I hear it.. As much as I spent a good many years working on the water, and when I hear of your testimony, I can't help but to think back of my countless hours spent working and fishing with nothing but my boat,the sky and the briny sea for companions. Thank You for your memories, John.
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No Respect |
posted 10-17-2008 03:52 PM ET (US)
The first Whaler I bought 19 years ago is still the one I own today. There was a long life full of stories before I found her and she will probably outlive me. According to Chuck Bennet she was ordered in July 1965 as a 16' bare hull built to workboat specs. This makes sense now as there wasn't a single OEM fitting on the boat when I got her. She is scratched, dinged, and blistered just like me. I have considered a total resoration but in a way that just wouldn't fit this old girl. This summer in SoCal we found ourselves 45 miles off the beach chasing tuna and dorado with boats twice her size and a fraction her age. Like an old dog she is a bit long in the tooth but can still hunt. Matt Insley
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sapple |
posted 10-17-2008 07:28 PM ET (US)
When I decided to take the power boating plunge last year I started conservatively and purchased a Sport 130. I really liked the boat but was conerned that my wife would not be very enthusiastic about the whole boating thing. She insisted that I needed a bigger boat. So this past spring I traded the Sport 130 in for a new 170 Montauk. She decided she liked this boat and especially appreciates the safety and quality attributes of Whalers. However, she insisted I now needed a bigger tow vehicle. She insisted that I purchase a late model Toyota Tundra. Now she really likes the whole rig and is starting to talk about getting a C-Dory so we can do year round boating and cruising. Now I am concerned that I may have created a boating enthused monster that is striken with 4-footitis. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-18-2008 02:19 AM ET (US)
I am back from a grueling day at work.. and finding myself now where I wanting to mentally be; throughout the day. Reading of your thoughts and experiences.I must admit that your conversations have refreshed and inspired me in different latitudes about our Whaler families. Craig, today has updated me as in the number of Montauks plying the inside passage in the last season. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-19-2008 04:55 AM ET (US)
This weekend has been remarkably warm and sunny.Time to make things right, to put away the gear and my favorite project away for the winter.I think that I've enjoyed the last of yet another memorable summer. This year was a Banner year full of interesting new beginnings. New friends,new projects, new goals. I am still very busy at work, forever trying to get data on my preferred family boat member the Outrage Classic 19'4" 1975 unit. Sooner than later,I am looking forward to picking up from Tom; his very good Whaler CD encyclopedia set. I am still firmly convinced that there is some interesting and relevant infos out there about this"Boat fabricating " subject.And this, in the form of witnessing and testimony by the people that were there.. having worked at the original fabricating plant in the early seventies. There is a lot of obscured details that will in time come to light. Why? You may ask.Well because an increasing number of people do want to know..It's only good PR...and actual history. I for one, am very wanting about this very real but buried type of historical facts. On a slightly different note; |
skred |
posted 10-19-2008 11:06 AM ET (US)
Serge, I looked everywhere for the sales receipt - with the buyer's name - on the Dauntless 16, and can't find it. I sold it in 2004. Considering the buyer and his friend (or brother?) drove all the way to Milwaukee, WI to buy it, I got the impression there were few to none of the D16's in Campbell River. She's a 2000 model with a 90 Honda on her. He usually boats with a friend with a larger Whaler (Outrage?). He sent me some photos after he got it in the water up there, and the geography is absolutely stunning. I'm trying to scheme a way to get to see that in person at least once in my life. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-20-2008 07:24 AM ET (US)
Skred, My good buddy Neil just bought a Dauntless last spring. The truth of the mater is; I had invited him to contemplate My Girl upon having her cozily parked in the park like settings that is my home last winter. He was impressed by her size and classic lines. I was laughing as the mood was light and that he is truly a Whaler fan.. By the time that he took his leave, Neal was literally twitching with mixed emotions.Go figure, probably a bit of excitement a bit of envy..and a burning desire to do me one better. Well in the next two months his mind set proved productive as he took the trip to Portland and picked up a neat 1994 ?? Dauntless with a fresh Suzuki four stroke motor and a single axle galvanized trailer. I personally think that he paid too much for the boat but isn't that the case for most of us? His wife has been a bit harsh and dry with me lately in her comments as "So you're the one responsible for this new purchase are you"? Al that I could do is shrug and smile saying NO NO not me.. Anyway, If it is important I could put an ad in our local papers and find out for you Skred.. And yes you are right, CR is truly a great place to leisure and retire as an increasing number of retirees are yearly moving in. Let me know if I can further be of service. |
skred |
posted 10-20-2008 08:31 PM ET (US)
Serge, Not necessary to look up the buyer. If he's still lurking on the website, he'll probably notice this thread. Just wondered if you'd seen the Dauntless on the water in the area. I must admit - hoving owned 7 Whalers: 13's a 15CC, a MOntauk, and the Dauntless 16, the Dauntless was the biggest 16-footer I've ever experienced. Beautiful boat, and - if trimmed out properly - a great "bigger water boat, too. Probably my favorite of all the ones I've owned. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-21-2008 03:06 PM ET (US)
Skred, Nice to hear from you again.Just was talking to Neil yesterday. |
L H G |
posted 10-21-2008 05:05 PM ET (US)
My recently purchased 1975 19 Outrage is now ready for the water after 5 months of part-time upgrading, and will be going in for a trial run up in Door County WI this weekend. The original gelcoat is waxed to a high gloss, all original teak now varnished ten coats, including new instrument panels with full instrumentation, console raised 4", the black and shiny, Detweiler bracketed, Merc 150 with new 19" Laser II prop, now installed. Looks incredible, basically a brand new "old classic" boat. All I need is the new Barbour red rubrail insert, and Sunbrella Toast color Mills Flying Top set! |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-21-2008 08:44 PM ET (US)
Well hello Thurston, Nice to hear from you. I guess that You and I, owning so closely related family members, has had Fate thrown our Lot; Some may even say that we would just about be"In Laws" or members of the same family.. I am tickled pink for you but not quite envious about your beautiful Classic. I was glad and excited that; as in the "Ice Man" discovery, someone had discovered a practically intact and original individual. Having said that,I will have a number of pertinent questions that you may be able to attend to.If you will render this service to the community. I have viewed with keen interest your photos taken of your girl. A-That you have been made aware of my ongoing process of carefully regelling the surfaces of my unit. B-My gell ordered specifically from Spectrum and applied with great care seems to be of a darker Desert Tan shade than yours. 1-Is your unit factory Desert Tan or was it a special order color? Serge. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-21-2008 09:26 PM ET (US)
Toshgib, I was a bit intrigued about your short but revealing post. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-22-2008 12:58 AM ET (US)
It still make me feel good to read and think again of the relationship of Matt and his fateful Whaler named "Matty". I hope that he will forgive me for this slight transgression in protocol by having me; a perfect stranger; naming his favorite craft. The grain and depth of the story having reached me in my personal moments of Whaler related thoughts and further did give me some mental images of the two of them at sea together. |
L H G |
posted 10-22-2008 01:38 AM ET (US)
First of all Ritzy, I've got to say that's beautiful country up there in Campbell River BC. Been there three times with my 18 Outrage, stayed at the April Point Resort, been in the Town Marina, and stopped by to see all the 17' fishing Whalers at the sister Resort. Can't wait to return, next time with my 21 Ribside. At the risk of boring the others here, not owners of 19's, I'll try to answer your questions. The original factory gelcoat on these hulls is a lighter, almost white, cream color on the outside, both the bottom outer hull casting and top shell, and the interior of the hull casting and console is darker, supposedly Desert Tan, as used in the 2nd generation Outrages. Because I had to re-rig my power from twins to a big single, I had to fill transom bolt holes, which involved gelcoating both of the colors on the inside and outside of the transom. I ordered Spectrum "Outrage light Gray" for the outside, which is what they showed for these hulls, including the 21's. Not even close! I also ordered the Desert Tan, also not even close. My boat was stored indoors all it's life, and the colors are still very close to original, not altered by UV exposure. I have found before that Sectrum's color codes are simply off, way off, for these 70's boats. Fortunately, they included their color tinitng set of black, dark yellow and dark red. I had to simply do my own color matching for the old engine bolt holes, and it took about one hour on each color to get close, which I accomplished. A painstaking job, but worth the effort. So if you are using Spectrum's colors directly from the can, you are not going to get BW's original colors. But I do admire your efforts to to re-gelcoat rather than paint. You are doing it the professional way, and the boat will much more valuable and easier to maintain with gelcoat. I have raised the console on all my Outrages, as I think they were simply too low, designed for people not as tall as I am. The 40 gallon fuel tank in my boat was never used, with the owner instead opting to use a 6 gallon metal Johnson tank for each engine, for the little use he gave the boat. So the tank is brand new, and all I had to do was install a water separating filter under the rear seat cross molding. I left the fill as is, and the vent hose, but de-activated the fuel withdrawl fitting so as to keep the new alcohol resistant fuel hose concealed and not running across the beautiful teak fishwell hatch cover. I may have to change out the vent hose for alcohol fuel also, but have not yet worried about that. Rhe fill hose is so short that it seems to not be a problem The BW logo on the boat is original, and all I added were the 1975 numbers, as I have done on my other classic Whalers. Saves the standard question by onlookers, while at the same time initiating their interest in these older Whalers. Keep up the great work on yours, and let me know if I can be of additional information. There will be some new photos up on my son's Photobucket site soon. {url]http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Outrage%2019/[/url]. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-22-2008 01:43 PM ET (US)
Hello Chi, Again,nice to hear from you. Well, yes of course refit projects can be long and tedious but must always be a lot of fun. I mean, It is then logically seen that each refit will have it's own time line and degree of expertise put into them. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-22-2008 08:29 PM ET (US)
Well, I have been getting some conflicting infos here is it Thurston or is it Larry? In any event, always a pleasure to have a nice chat about our Whalers. You are right in your appreciation of the scenic aspect of our locale here. It is mountain scenes as in Colorado added to the real pleasures of being on this rather large Vancouver Island amid the Pacific Ocean. North of Seattle and on the same coast. It is a western paradise really. To Google Victoria BC would show all the guys how very welcoming the areas are. Having been here more than twice will show a net advantage on your side as I have not yet heard of your place of work and residence. Bob Writ from the well known local group is the owner of Painters and also April Point. If ever you do plan to show up, I will be glad to facilitate in any and all areas of your planned visit. In the gel coat topic; I have ordered and am in possession of the Spectrum color adjusting kit.I have not had a need to use it as yet. It makes for an interesting refit does it not? I have taken the winged original console off and admittedly was intrigued about your customizing for height. Serge |
ChiTown Cetacean |
posted 10-22-2008 08:58 PM ET (US)
Ritzy: I have never contacted BW about the origin of Hull ID No. 0021. What I can guess about it is that it was built in 1972 and sold as a 1973 Model. At some point, I believe around Hull No. 165 or so, there was a slight modification made to the wood supports which are molded into the hull. There is a diagram of the wood supports available on the other Whaler website with the initials WC. I would also guess that my boat was originally sold in Chicago through a now defunct BW dealer. It was probably originally outfitted for salmon trolling in Lake Michigan, because a kicker was mounted at some point in time. The boat's name was originally the "Sea Witch" in case any Chicago area Whaler fans might remember her. She then spent at least a few years as a chase boat for a local private high school rowing team (St. Ignatius). The kids beat the tar out of her, and inflicted a million small dings. When I bought her in 2006, she had a 2003 Johnson 50 HP outboard, which was probably worth more than the boat. All the wood doors were gone, the bow rail was missing and the electrical system was a complete mess except for the motor harness and controls, which had been professionally installed. Then after she became mine, she was re-Christened as the "Killer Whaler" and was once again outfitted for salmon fishing in Lake Michigan - which she did admirably this past year. In looking for the Whaler decals, you should simply contact Magic Brush, which supplies the current OEM decals for BW. They will set you up with exactly what you need. |
bretm1 |
posted 10-22-2008 09:09 PM ET (US)
In addition to the Spectrum color adjusting kit I would also suggest an Illudium Pu-36 Explosive Space Modulator. It can make all the difference. It worked for Marvin The Martian. All kidding aside, there is something slightly addictive about this thread. It may have to do more with your writing style than the content, although the content is very informative as well. Regardless, please take no offense. I crave more. I think I may know what it is. Are you Higgins, from the Magnum PI show? As I read your prose, Higgins voice rings through my head. Do you at least have an english accent? Either way, it's great reading after a long day. Please pardon my pathetic attempt at humor. Best of luck with all of your adventures. Bret |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-23-2008 12:55 AM ET (US)
Chi, Well, Serge. |
L H G |
posted 10-23-2008 01:09 AM ET (US)
I am absolutely 100% positive that the "cap" gelcoat color on the 19's is not Desert Tan, but a lighter color. As I said, Spectrum has neither color codes correct. Looking at this photo, you can see the original cap color, still with original Whaler decal, in contrast to the Desert Tan interior, shown where the fuel fittings are. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-23-2008 01:27 AM ET (US)
Bret, Welcome to the thread. Serge. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-23-2008 11:18 AM ET (US)
Hello again Thurston, Since that you deem to go straight to the color topic again.You of course,are always welcomed.. Yours, |
L H G |
posted 10-23-2008 01:45 PM ET (US)
Serge The cap (inclucing the area in the bow that holds the bow compartment doors) and the OUTER fiberglass shell of the entire hull casting are the same color, which doesn't seem to have a name. Spectrum's "Outrage Gray" it is not. Like with the ribside 21's, the original Boston Whaler color code for the gelcoat on these old boats seems to be lost. The inside fiberglass mold of the hull casting, which includes the non-skid deck, are supposedly Whaler's new color at the time, Desert Tan. So is the console and the narrow stern deck cross cap concealing fuel lines and engine cables as they emerge from the tunnel. But as I said, Spectrum's color code is WAY OFF on that one too. But Serge, it doesn't matter, since the brain does not remember color well at all. Whatever shade of gelcoat Spectrum has sent you should be fine, and will look great. Keep up the good work, and I admire your efforts to re-gelcoat rather than take the easy way out by spray painting. Larry |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-23-2008 03:14 PM ET (US)
Larry, You know what?
http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=olympusphotos338vc0.jpg Serge. |
ChiTown Cetacean |
posted 10-24-2008 01:37 AM ET (US)
L H G and Ritzy: By the way, I looked at the Photobucket shots of L H G's 1975. It is positively sick how gleaming she is. Unbelievable. I did notice that L H G is missing a piece of the wood trim just above the double doors to the bow storage compartment. As it turns out, I have one of those pieces in the original Whaler wood. It will need to be refinished, but it is yours if you need it. Also, I have a set of original Whaler wood doors to that same compartment, but they have been drilled a few too many times and may have been sanded enough times that they are now too far gone. I made new replacements out of Okume marine plywood. But I did consider having the holes in the Whaler wood doors plugged and then gluing a new layer of mahogany veneer over them. Those doors are also yours for the asking. Also, to anyone out there who might be in need. There are some approximately 1 1/4 wide wood strips (I think these are teak, but hard to be sure) which run down the inner sides of the gunnels on the '73's and '74's (with the porthole cutouts). I got these pieces some time ago, thinking they had been missing from my boat when I bought it. Well, it seems that these may have been added to the models made at some point after 0021, since they don't fit on my boat. In any event, they are in perfect structural condition. I have sanded them and put on a couple coats of teak oil. They may need a little more sanding. But, these are also free to whomever may need them. These are quite long, so pick up in Chicago would be the preferred way of dealing with these. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-24-2008 09:18 AM ET (US)
I must say a Big Thank You for the help of Jim for having rescued my Thread from what I can now call "Purgatory". For all of you non Catholic guys, well it's a place that is lost out there somewhere. You are a Prince Jim. Serge. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-24-2008 09:39 AM ET (US)
Chi, "There is a time for everything and everything in it's own time" As my Dear mother would often say; Until then. Serge. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-25-2008 11:00 AM ET (US)
It is my pleasure to be with You again,, You will understand that this thread is in fact the original; On a slightly different note, I think that it is grand time that we should give Jim more credit; And this for his efforts in making this site,what it is.. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-26-2008 08:02 AM ET (US)
Well Hey, I sure want to talk about my Whaler and my Whaler related friends, but the last time that I looked which was yesterday; There was a motion to the floor. Is it that nobody read the last posting or is it that no one understood? I for one am not that keen on arm twisting but in any event my motion does stand until I hear otherwise. I firmly do believe that there is a certain amount of recognition to be rightfully given here and that it occured to me that there is a lack in that department.. I will be open to suggestions.Positive ones that is.. Serge. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-26-2008 08:50 AM ET (US)
Well..; As our Iconic friend and memorable President Ronald used to say; I did review some of the comments posted to this thread lately and have found that a lot of the comments are so very ripe with the actual events involved in the present lives of the speakers.. I for one have truly appreciated of the flavor of the events when being recounted. On a different note, I have heard and this from a very reliable source.. Of an interesting rumor lately.. An exciting victory for free enterprise that has seen our Good Buddy Jim MC having adopted a new project Whaler boat. I hope that I have not spilled the beans on that one, but I am curiously excited for him. It's just another case of putting myself in their shoes as new owner and having fun going through my mind with the repairs involved. Nuts and bolts tool talk, all of that.
Serge. |
L H G |
posted 10-27-2008 01:34 AM ET (US)
ChiTown - Thanks for the offer on the bow locker teak trim, but I won't need it, as when the photo was taken, those parts were out of the boat for varnishing work. In finding this boat, I was fortunate that every single piece of original teak woodwork was intact and in good condition. |
fno |
posted 10-27-2008 07:26 AM ET (US)
Yeah, thanks Jim...... |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-27-2008 08:28 AM ET (US)
Well I'm back on the saddle again, well actually just getting of of it. The last of my four ten hour night shift has ended at five this morning.And I am reading your thoughts and jotting down a few of my own. Looking at my morning paper it is mentioning that; "Seven Orcas missing,Feared dead in last year" Scientists say that lack of Salmon a factor in resident whale population decline. http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story. html?id=96e38bbd-929b-48f3-8708-87451e62274c On a different subject. I have removed my bow cleat and will be looking to rechrome this basic brass fitting.I may also have some minor items to be redone. I find it very likely that some of you guys may have some leads on your local talented resurfacing pros. You are welcomed to chip in. Serge. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-29-2008 08:08 AM ET (US)
Deepwater, I have thought of your story and am curious about the Whaler model that you have adopted. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 10-30-2008 12:36 AM ET (US)
Talking on line with my good buddy Scott today; I have learned of his progress on his sistership the Outrage 19 Classic 1972. He isn't going at it "with the back of the spoon" let me tell you that much. I will be looking forward to seeing his progress in the complete refit that he is presently busy involving himself. I am presently looking at some new wood garnishing trim lately.. Serge. |
Ritzyrags |
posted 11-05-2008 02:09 AM ET (US)
[Politics not welcome--boating topics welcome.--jimh] |
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