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Ritzyrags posted 10-14-2008 04:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for Ritzyrags   Send Email to Ritzyrags  
Hey Guys. First off, since I've been remiss in giving Big thanks to Tony for helping me reposting my photo. You are a good lad Tony! Secondly. do you want to talk about your boat? This should really be a shoo-in since I don't know a single mariner that doesn't have a great boat related story to share. I am sure that Jim, Jeff, Scott and Rob to name just a few would have some very interesting words about their prizes possessions, their beloved Whalers. So to coin a very popular phrase; come on down, you are the next participant as the "place is right."
deepwater posted 10-14-2008 06:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for deepwater  Send Email to deepwater     
The day i picked up my whaler i couldn't keep my eyes off the rear view mirror,, it was like a dream following behind me and if i took my eyes of her she would be gone in the blink of an eye like a dream,, we have been many places starting in 1989 and now we have many more to see up here in Maine
jamesmylesmcp posted 10-15-2008 09:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
Serge,you bring up a good subject,a day I'll never forget !
Back in 2005 I was at the helm of my 1972 Boston Whaler Bass boat on Lake Lanier in Georgia with my kids onboard for the first time. They were all smiles from ear to ear a look that answered my prayers as I had recently become a single father in need of an activity fun for all.It was about this time that I happened upon this site and discovered "Cetecea" and soon identified just what we needed. I needed an old Outrage and wouldn't settle for anything but. Well we moved East pulling the 17 to Connecticut.The boat was a good one but not kid friendly at all with it's raised decks,boating slowed down as it just wasn't safe with 2 small kids on Lond Island Sound.
I had a friend who worked as a visiting nurse and sent her a picture of what I needed in a boat(a ribside from Cetecea)she opened the picture from her laptop at a patient's home,the ailing woman saw the picture and directed her towards the barn! Walla...dust covered without power sat my future craft. The hull had a registration sticker from 1986. The property was for sale and the boat needed to go,soon! I was there with a friends pickup the next day still unawear of what lie beneath the dirt. We hooked up the old trailer and pulled her into daylight she looked nasty. A tire went flat,the tongue snapped and thus began a day from hell trailering home on backroads for 50 miles creeking and woobling down the road.It was the next day when we put a hose to her and couldn't believe what was beneath the filth ! The rest is history and has provided the kids and I with countless hours of enjoyment and a lifetime of memories.
jeffs22outrage posted 10-15-2008 10:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for jeffs22outrage  Send Email to jeffs22outrage     
God Jim, that is a great story. After our phone call last week I realized I forgot to ask you how you got your boat. Now I know....It is funny how things work out.
jamesmylesmcp posted 10-15-2008 03:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
Oh Serge,I just came across this picture another memorable day as the complete refit began.Here the old girl was pushed back on the trailer 2 feet and raised on a ramp system to allow the Sodablast crew to remove the bottom paint, when they finished I cranked her foward to expose the remaining paint,worked like a charm. http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=sodablasting.jpg This was only the beginning of upgrading every system on the boat...upgrade hell it's all new ! Bottom,wires,fuel system,engine,steering everything but retained the vintage look ! Now go to it !
Ritzyrags posted 10-15-2008 05:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Wow Jim,
I didn't realize that your Girl has had that kind of refit!
Ouch me lad, you got me paying attention now.
You will have to tell me more and please don't hurry as I really enjoy to hear the details of it all.
I know for sure that you have some very interesting facts to share with us about your beloved Girl.
Did I forget to mention that your Girl had my most five Star vote for the Calendar?
This on will be a very Good one Jim.
You're on a roll My Friend.

Serge.

jamesmylesmcp posted 10-15-2008 07:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
-Sodablasted botton applied Interlux Interprotect sanded between coats 3 and 4 buffed coat 5 with pumice.
-Pettit Vivid Black applied, first coat sanded 2nd coat thinned then 3rd and remains shining today(sailboat trick)
-Fuel tanks removed and replaced with newly mfg 20 gallon aluminium saddles.(provides in excess of 200 mile range)
-Batteries(Dual) moved to the console with perco switch
-Garmin 498 installed
-Vhf under console/galaxy antenea
-1000 watt stereo/CD system with 4 speakers(well hidden)
-New 2006 Optimax 150Hp
-Complete Smartcraft gauges
-Seastar Hydralic Sreering with 2.6 Helm(thanks Seabob)
-Ritehite Jackplate
-Complete Mills weather system
-new windscreen (Mills)
-New tandem bunk trailer
-LED deck lighting
-Twin bilge pumps 1100gph 1 auto 1 manual
-New cushions, seat back with name
-foward tri-fold bed(stowes under bow)
-Porti-potti (fits under bow)
-aux 10 gallon fuel tanks(10 under each aft quarter)
-Completely refit stock downriggers mfg'd by Riviera
- removed all wood and refinished
-replaced Logo
-Raycor fuel/water separator
-5 gallon oil tank
Well thats just off the top of my head !
The boat is in perpetual refit and seems it will never be complete this winter will see chrome work to all deck fittings.
Serge, you see some lurk here and just absorb info only to someday down the raod post a picture of what they've done, only as result to the valued input from everybody here.
jamesmylesmcp posted 10-15-2008 07:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
Oh,Serge, I took this picture for you tonight,this since April of this year ! Imagine last year we only did 2800 ! http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=2009miles.jpg Ahhh...the fruits of the effort !
Ritzyrags posted 10-16-2008 12:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Well it is a fact that I am not going to cut in when you two are dancing!!
You have done some good and commendable work my friend.
There must have been some specifics that you had difficulties in solving..
For example here, there is no such option as powder blasting.
If needed I would have to get it done by yours truly.
Any contractual problems encountered?
jamesmylesmcp posted 10-16-2008 08:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for jamesmylesmcp  Send Email to jamesmylesmcp     
Soda-Blasting is not enviornmentally friendly thus creating the majority of the expense here's how it's done. http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=boat-9-tented-d.jpg The crew that came to my home had none of these concerns. http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=sodablasting.jpg The equipment is big,noisey and makes a mess. http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc91/71outrage/?action=view& current=sodablaster.jpg
I found these guys after I had given up hope on having this done as quotes for the job were around $2200. These guys did it for less than $500.
The boat was hoisted into the air per their request and then the calls started,we're sick,too wet,won't start on and on for three weeks. I became nervous with each passing day as I would look at the boat winched up in a tree.
Then call came in out of the blue,we're coming ! Are your neighbors home? This was my first clue. Upon arrival they positioned the Budweiser first all three cracked one open and began cursing,second clue.The machine was fired up and soon a cloud much like a dense fog drifted away from the boat the noise was much like that of a runway at Laguardia. The one with the rubber bands on his beard just looked and cursed as the others without masks or any protective gear took on the appearance of bakers in a flour fight. Between the cloud appeared a clean hull and in less than an hour they suddenly packed up and left without a word.I then stood in awe at a perfectly clean hull,then picked up the empty beer cans and hosed off the area. That was two years ago and I have yet needed to cut the lawn in that area of the yard. These guys are still around and friends of mine have simular stories always with the phone call "are your neighbors home?"
skred posted 10-16-2008 09:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for skred  Send Email to skred     
Hey Serge: I sold my 16 Dauntless to a chap in Campbell River... Know him?

Ritzyrags posted 10-16-2008 09:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
This is real good stuff Jim.
The way that you recount it ..I can just picture it and so does the rest of the guys reading here I am sure.It reminds me of "Pigpen" in the Charlie Brown cast of characters.
It's a good thing that I don't require that service as my hull is in reasonably good shape . There never was any anti fouling paint on it as the unit was always hauled out after usage.This specific area will have nevertheless the same treatment as the cap did.Every square inch will be sanded, cosmetically attended to and refreshed with gelcoat.
So afterward, did you contract a hull resurfacing or did you just polished and waxed?
Any other areas as the deck got some TLC?
I will be looking for some whaler logos for the stern areas. They seems to be eluding me at this time.
Your Girl,canvas and all looks just great today.
Hope that you won't mind me using her just for fun as my front desk background lately.
What else have you encountered?
Ritzyrags posted 10-16-2008 09:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Hey Skred,
It would help me a bit if you gave me a name.
Campbell is a township of 37,000 people but there is a possibility..
BBS posted 10-16-2008 10:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for BBS  Send Email to BBS     
I grew up in the northeast and always wanted a Whaler. I have been living on the Texas coast for the past 20 years boatless. One day, I saw a 1989 Outrage 18 parked on the side of the road with a for sale sign. I passed it every day for 2 weeks but kept on replaying the "we can't afford it" reply I imagined my wife would throw down.

One morning at work my phone rang..it was my wife. She said "I was taking Gracie to school this morning and saw a boat for sale. Have you seen it? You should call."

It was like a message from God. 6 years later and I can't imagine trading it for anything.

Tohsgib posted 10-16-2008 11:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tohsgib  Send Email to Tohsgib     
I've owned 19 Whalers and currently have 4 in my yard...not enough bandwidth here for my stories.
Ritzyrags posted 10-16-2008 02:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
I really enjoy hearing all your stories, and I'm sure that the guys think that it's great fun.
In these uncertain times what's life without getting some light sided news?
I had just a hoot reading about the soda blasting crew, an haywired lot for sure but still very useful for the work that they do.
BBS's good story literally sounded like an answer from his prayers.You gotta like that..and I do.
It really tickle me to hear that some of us have more than one classy lady under our care;
As you really got to be doing something right when you own more then one Whaler.
There is always a right time for our favorite Whaler stories and the ticket here is in the sharing of our favorite ones..if it feels right and inclined to do so.

These are the things that we have in common.
The good, unusual and fun times with our personable boats.
I don't think that am I the only one here that has always felt that mechanical units had distinctive personalities?
It's all good and positive fun really.

Whalerdog posted 10-16-2008 06:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdog  Send Email to Whalerdog     
I went for a ride in a 13' Whaler in 1968 with a 33 Johnson. When I thought the boat was going under the next wave it when over it.

I raced and owned 25' Checkmate, 28' Checkmate, 24' Skater, 32' Skater, and 36' Skater. One boat ran 145 mph. I have four APBA World Championships and a room full of trophies. I stopped in 2000. I am living on the water and the longing for a boat took hold again. I wanted some thing to just go in the ocean and play.

The Montauk 19 was to me a classic Whaler design I rode in years ago. It was cheap and basically maintenance free. I thought of getting a bigger Whaler vee bottom but decide the price was way more and I would need rougher water to have fun. I also toyed with a used 24' Skater. That would eat gas like mad and require rebuilt lower units fairly often as I would be running it hard along with other parts as in racing.

Friends told me you nuts you'll sell the Whaler in a month it is not fast enough. You all may think I am nuts but I like running in big waves for a thrill. Finishing my second season and I love my Whaler. I drop it off some big 6-8' waves that are breaking. I also get some bigger ones I like to surf in with the boat. I am totally amazed what the boat can go through. The boat is just solid and hits with a thud. To date I don't have a hairline crack in the transom.

It is simply a great boat design and build process. Finish and hardware are first class. The boat runs a long time on 50 bucks worth of gas. It can go through some real snotty water safely. So from 145 mph to 39-40 mph I am still glad I bought the 19 Montauk. I can go and run in the bay with 3 footers and still have a thrill.

I think it is 35' because I saw a 19 and thought it was a 15 or 17 till the girlfriend told me it is a 19. Just having fun as my other friends plan a trip with the cost of gas in their 35-40 boats i can drop the ropes and run daily ven for 30 minutes is a relieve.

Ritzyrags posted 10-17-2008 12:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
I'm still enjoying just as ever hearing of your experiences, events and your favorite Whalers.

Craig, a buddy of mine working at my place of employment just happened to be a veteran Salmon Fishing Guide out of the old Painter's Lodge in good old CR.
When talking about the ongoing refit of my Grand Lady, it naturally came on the subject that he had ran for many years one of the two best Montauks working for the Lodge's fleet.
His comments were that
"My preferred boat, and one of the fastest out of the fleet of some two dozen could and had been used for thousands of working hours.It was incredible " he was saying ;"The ruggedness and the dependability of that boat was unbelievable".He went on to say that most of them having all the same power were much slower then his..We both came to the conclusion that a lot of them were badly water logged and therefore much heavier. My Montauk was still running faithfully the day I left, some four years ago he quoted with pride..

It goes a long way to say that If looked after properly and treated with care and respect these boats will last you a life time.
And if not;
There is always someone there not too far away looking to give these faithful crafts a second chance.These individuals are usually incumbent with the care the attitude and the knowhow to make things right.. and make these unique crafts shine like new again..

OIA posted 10-17-2008 12:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for OIA  Send Email to OIA     
Serge:

Great topic, but I have to agree with Tohsgib, how much time you got.

They're amazing vessels. They will, literally, take you anywhere you want to go. Minimal fuel and maintenance, maximum safety, incredible fun.

Waterskiing Lake Powell, midnight trips to Catalina with a rising full moon, fishing, scuba diving, whale watching, playing with dolphin, harbor cruising. I used to drive my 17 Montauk to work once a week, an hour each way.

I proposed to my wife on The Whaler, spent my bachelor party on The Whaler, part of my wedding day was spent on The Whaler. Now my five year old's favorite thing to do is go to Catalina Island on The Whaler, just ask him. And, then there was the trip around the United States, Only In America.

The Whaler is one of my oldest and dearest friends and I cannot imagine my life without that molded piece of fiberglass with the center console, reversible seat, gas tank and outboard sitting on the transom.

John Mirassou
Redondo Beach,CA

Ritzyrags posted 10-17-2008 01:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
John,

I know the sound of truth when I hear it..

As much as I spent a good many years working on the water, and when I hear of your testimony, I can't help but to think back of my countless hours spent working and fishing with nothing but my boat,the sky and the briny sea for companions.
I know and understand of your times spent on the Salty.
Friendly Cove and Mutchalat Inlet are my backyards and I have been haunting these parts for well over thirty years..
Your recalling of your true and personal events are a Testimony to your quality of life including our common threads and friends "The faithful and beloved Whalers"
and espacially for you your faithful Montauk.

Thank You for your memories, John.
PS What name did you give her?



No Respect posted 10-17-2008 03:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for No Respect  Send Email to No Respect     
The first Whaler I bought 19 years ago is still the one I own today. There was a long life full of stories before I found her and she will probably outlive me.
According to Chuck Bennet she was ordered in July 1965 as a 16' bare hull built to workboat specs. This makes sense now as there wasn't a single OEM fitting on the boat when I got her. She is scratched, dinged, and blistered just like me.
I have considered a total resoration but in a way that just wouldn't fit this old girl. This summer in SoCal we found ourselves 45 miles off the beach chasing tuna and dorado with boats twice her size and a fraction her age. Like an old dog she is a bit long in the tooth but can still hunt.

Matt Insley
Huntington Beach Ca.
1965 16' Whaler
"No Respect"

sapple posted 10-17-2008 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
When I decided to take the power boating plunge last year I started conservatively and purchased a Sport 130. I really liked the boat but was conerned that my wife would not be very enthusiastic about the whole boating thing. She insisted that I needed a bigger boat. So this past spring I traded the Sport 130 in for a new 170 Montauk. She decided she liked this boat and especially appreciates the safety and quality attributes of Whalers. However, she insisted I now needed a bigger tow vehicle. She insisted that I purchase a late model Toyota Tundra. Now she really likes the whole rig and is starting to talk about getting a C-Dory so we can do year round boating and cruising. Now I am concerned that I may have created a boating enthused monster that is striken with 4-footitis.
Ritzyrags posted 10-18-2008 02:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
I am back from a grueling day at work.. and finding myself now
where I wanting to mentally be; throughout the day.

Reading of your thoughts and experiences.I must admit that your conversations have refreshed and inspired me in different latitudes about our Whaler families.

Craig, today has updated me as in the number of Montauks plying the inside passage in the last season.
No less than a score of Fifty Montauks have been at work with "leased out " 50Hp Yams for power, each and every season since 1989, he has personally witnessed.
"It is common to see these boats put in about 1200 HRS a season.And I have personally seen a score of them having done this type of workload for more than a decade" He went on to say.
When I read about the testimony given by Matt about his fateful 16 footer that is so closely related to him that maybe she should be called "Matty"... as the are so admittedly befriended.I personally see this as a true blessing.
I get the feeling that I am not the only one who could be walking and touching My Girl before turning in at night.
Thank You Matt for sharing of your "special" family friend.
Sapple,
I think that your dear wife is a true mariner and a good manager.
It is true that the wishes and prayers of a lot of us could be so blessed as having an attractive mate with such briny common sense.


Ritzyrags posted 10-19-2008 04:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
This weekend has been remarkably warm and sunny.Time to make things right, to put away the gear and my favorite project away for the winter.I think that I've enjoyed the last of yet another memorable summer.
This year was a Banner year full of interesting new beginnings.
New friends,new projects, new goals.
I am still very busy at work, forever trying to get data on my preferred family boat member the Outrage Classic 19'4" 1975 unit.
Sooner than later,I am looking forward to picking up from Tom;
his very good Whaler CD encyclopedia set.
I am still firmly convinced that there is some interesting and relevant infos out there about this"Boat fabricating " subject.And this, in the form of witnessing and testimony by the people that were there.. having worked at the original fabricating plant in the early seventies.
There is a lot of obscured details that will in time come to light.
Why? You may ask.Well because an increasing number of people do want to know..It's only good PR...and actual history.
I for one, am very wanting about this very real but buried type of historical facts.

On a slightly different note;
The Whaler CO has fallen on hard times lately..Having been bought and directed in new and different ways..
Ways of self perceptions and ways to do and conduct business on a continental level..
Personally,I think that,
Large numbers of North Americans and World Wide mariners have been investing for five decades in the true heritage of what the Whaler name is and stands for.
It is my opinion is that;
The Whaler name is still outstanding and meaningful for all of Us today.
I will forcefully convey to "The Powers That Be" That they should perhaps put a new team in place that can and will bank and exploit the heritage that imcumbs with this venerable name.
A new team that will pay attention to the very faithful human following that still love their products to date.
It should only be common sense that this kind of brand loyalty should be rewarded and acknowledged.
Never mind if the ownership of those Whalers in question are Thirty seven or seven years old..
They are still a testimony to the tradition and to the excellency of the name.
It is by talking about your crafts that the popularity of the names and personalities of those boats will gain interest and momentum.
And this; for an ever larger enthusiastic following.
It is my hope and wish that in our present uncertain times, You will take a moment to leisurely share in your experiences involving your choice of craft, the Whaler.

skred posted 10-19-2008 11:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for skred  Send Email to skred     
Serge, I looked everywhere for the sales receipt - with the buyer's name - on the Dauntless 16, and can't find it. I sold it in 2004. Considering the buyer and his friend (or brother?) drove all the way to Milwaukee, WI to buy it, I got the impression there were few to none of the D16's in Campbell River. She's a 2000 model with a 90 Honda on her. He usually boats with a friend with a larger Whaler (Outrage?). He sent me some photos after he got it in the water up there, and the geography is absolutely stunning. I'm trying to scheme a way to get to see that in person at least once in my life.
Ritzyrags posted 10-20-2008 07:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Skred,
My good buddy Neil just bought a Dauntless last spring.
The truth of the mater is;
I had invited him to contemplate My Girl upon having her cozily parked in the park like settings that is my home last winter.
He was impressed by her size and classic lines.
I was laughing as the mood was light and that he is truly a Whaler fan..
By the time that he took his leave, Neal was literally twitching with mixed emotions.Go figure, probably a bit of excitement a bit of envy..and a burning desire to do me one better.
Well in the next two months his mind set proved productive as he took the trip to Portland and picked up a neat 1994 ?? Dauntless with a fresh Suzuki four stroke motor and a single axle galvanized trailer.
I personally think that he paid too much for the boat but isn't that the case for most of us?
His wife has been a bit harsh and dry with me lately in her comments as "So you're the one responsible for this new purchase are you"?
Al that I could do is shrug and smile saying NO NO not me..
Anyway, If it is important I could put an ad in our local papers and find out for you Skred..
And yes you are right, CR is truly a great place to leisure and retire as an increasing number of retirees are yearly moving in.
Let me know if I can further be of service.
skred posted 10-20-2008 08:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for skred  Send Email to skred     
Serge,
Not necessary to look up the buyer. If he's still lurking on the website, he'll probably notice this thread. Just wondered if you'd seen the Dauntless on the water in the area. I must admit - hoving owned 7 Whalers: 13's a 15CC, a MOntauk, and the Dauntless 16, the Dauntless was the biggest 16-footer I've ever experienced. Beautiful boat, and - if trimmed out properly - a great "bigger water boat, too. Probably my favorite of all the ones I've owned.
Ritzyrags posted 10-21-2008 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Skred,

Nice to hear from you again.Just was talking to Neil yesterday.
His unit is a 96 and his thinking was to get a Whaler that could be used for water skiing and also teasing the salmon from time to time.
In windy and rainy times a cuddy can be a welcome option. For the privacy of a porta potty pit stop or for hiding from the rain, the Dauntless has what his family of five desires for summer outings.
I have not seen too many Dauntless on the water lately.
The usual encounters are Montauks and Sports models.
Very rarely an Outrage Classic but never any older 75's like mine.
I have seen quite a few Whalers in my travels lately, but most of them were parked under car ports and idled. Possibly due to the price of fuel here of late.
Five dollars and up a gallon makes for an expensive water outing I will guess.
After seeing all these idled boats, I have started to entertain the Idea of forming a Whaler Club here In Campbell River.Just For The Fun Of It.
Would this not make a nice Club's name?
Thanks for posting Skred.

L H G posted 10-21-2008 05:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
My recently purchased 1975 19 Outrage is now ready for the water after 5 months of part-time upgrading, and will be going in for a trial run up in Door County WI this weekend.

The original gelcoat is waxed to a high gloss, all original teak now varnished ten coats, including new instrument panels with full instrumentation, console raised 4", the black and shiny, Detweiler bracketed, Merc 150 with new 19" Laser II prop, now installed. Looks incredible, basically a brand new "old classic" boat.

All I need is the new Barbour red rubrail insert, and Sunbrella Toast color Mills Flying Top set!

Ritzyrags posted 10-21-2008 08:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Well hello Thurston,

Nice to hear from you.
I am truly enjoying getting some of your input once again.
Through Jim's very good site I have enjoyed getting some admitted testimonies about a lot of our common Whaler friends and their special and often precious Whalers.

I guess that You and I, owning so closely related family members, has had Fate thrown our Lot;
Yet, Together once again.

Some may even say that we would just about be"In Laws" or members of the same family..
But aren't we all?

I am tickled pink for you but not quite envious about your beautiful Classic.
After all I have plenty of pride for my own Great Gal here.I am sure that you will understand.
Never the less I am pleased that you have this special place for her, so dear to your heart.
I think that you are a true Conaisseur in Classics.. A rare quality these days...Where mass production and net profits have perhaps taken precedent over traditional values.

I was glad and excited that; as in the "Ice Man" discovery, someone had discovered a practically intact and original individual.
This been seen as,
A great source of information for the rest of us here in the whaler community.

Having said that,I will have a number of pertinent questions that you may be able to attend to.If you will render this service to the community.

I have viewed with keen interest your photos taken of your girl.
I am sure that having been on one of my thread before;

A-That you have been made aware of my ongoing process of carefully regelling the surfaces of my unit.

B-My gell ordered specifically from Spectrum and applied with great care seems to be of a darker Desert Tan shade than yours.

1-Is your unit factory Desert Tan or was it a special order color?
2-About having raised your console 4". Were your inserts teak of fiberglass?
3-What were your reasons for raising said unit?
4-Did you have to attend to the gas tank filling hose and the vent conduit on your "special" gal?
5-Your stern Whaler logos seems to have the added word Classic below the appellation. Is this factory?
I know that you will find these questions interesting in their natures and a testimony to my commitment to the Outrage Classic 19'4".
I am sure that you will look forward to chatting with us again about your precious girl.
And of my true appreciation for your expertise.

Serge.

Ritzyrags posted 10-21-2008 09:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Toshgib,

I was a bit intrigued about your short but revealing post.
Having own and cared for nineteen Whalers and still owning four is unprecedented in these parts.
The closest thing to that kind of a record would be a boat dealership or brokerage firm.
I would guess that there's got to be hundreds of stories in those hulls.
Wish You were here.

Ritzyrags posted 10-22-2008 12:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
It still make me feel good to read and think again of the relationship of Matt and his fateful Whaler named "Matty".

I hope that he will forgive me for this slight transgression in protocol by having me; a perfect stranger; naming his favorite craft.
I will plead guilty of the self imposed charge and further will offer as an excuse that "I couldn't help myself".

The grain and depth of the story having reached me in my personal moments of Whaler related thoughts and further did give me some mental images of the two of them at sea together.
There is something that rings very true about the relationship of these two Old Salts..My Compliments to Your Crew.
I would be pleased and would consider it an honor if you could find a way to share a photo of You and your Girl on this thread.
And I don't really care if she is shiny or not as I like to show of your true and valuable relationship.
You may call yourself "No Respect" but I like and respect of what the both of you do represent for us as a community...
I will be looking for you out there at sea and here also..Where you do belong.

L H G posted 10-22-2008 01:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
First of all Ritzy, I've got to say that's beautiful country up there in Campbell River BC. Been there three times with my 18 Outrage, stayed at the April Point Resort, been in the Town Marina, and stopped by to see all the 17' fishing Whalers at the sister Resort. Can't wait to return, next time with my 21 Ribside.

At the risk of boring the others here, not owners of 19's, I'll try to answer your questions.

The original factory gelcoat on these hulls is a lighter, almost white, cream color on the outside, both the bottom outer hull casting and top shell, and the interior of the hull casting and console is darker, supposedly Desert Tan, as used in the 2nd generation Outrages. Because I had to re-rig my power from twins to a big single, I had to fill transom bolt holes, which involved gelcoating both of the colors on the inside and outside of the transom. I ordered Spectrum "Outrage light Gray" for the outside, which is what they showed for these hulls, including the 21's. Not even close! I also ordered the Desert Tan, also not even close. My boat was stored indoors all it's life, and the colors are still very close to original, not altered by UV exposure. I have found before that Sectrum's color codes are simply off, way off, for these 70's boats. Fortunately, they included their color tinitng set of black, dark yellow and dark red. I had to simply do my own color matching for the old engine bolt holes, and it took about one hour on each color to get close, which I accomplished. A painstaking job, but worth the effort. So if you are using Spectrum's colors directly from the can, you are not going to get BW's original colors. But I do admire your efforts to to re-gelcoat rather than paint. You are doing it the professional way, and the boat will much more valuable and easier to maintain with gelcoat.

I have raised the console on all my Outrages, as I think they were simply too low, designed for people not as tall as I am.
The early "winged" fiberglass console design on these boats is even worse, as the wheel and engine controls are lower than on the later versions. So I used my standard 4" TEAK riser detail that I have used on my other boats, which makes for MUCH more comfortable and controllable boating. On this boat I am also in the process of determining whether to raise the Pompanette pilot chairs 6", an original 50% price increase option over the RPS, but too low, also.

The 40 gallon fuel tank in my boat was never used, with the owner instead opting to use a 6 gallon metal Johnson tank for each engine, for the little use he gave the boat. So the tank is brand new, and all I had to do was install a water separating filter under the rear seat cross molding. I left the fill as is, and the vent hose, but de-activated the fuel withdrawl fitting so as to keep the new alcohol resistant fuel hose concealed and not running across the beautiful teak fishwell hatch cover. I may have to change out the vent hose for alcohol fuel also, but have not yet worried about that. Rhe fill hose is so short that it seems to not be a problem

The BW logo on the boat is original, and all I added were the 1975 numbers, as I have done on my other classic Whalers. Saves the standard question by onlookers, while at the same time initiating their interest in these older Whalers.

Keep up the great work on yours, and let me know if I can be of additional information. There will be some new photos up on my son's Photobucket site soon.

{url]http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Outrage%2019/[/url].

Ritzyrags posted 10-22-2008 01:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Hello Chi,
Again,nice to hear from you.

Well, yes of course refit projects can be long and tedious but must always be a lot of fun.
That is the golden rule here.

I mean,
It all depend on the state of the boat really.
I have seen photos of some of the repairs done out there and had to marvel at the state of undue care and attention that these crafts had been subjected since been bought..
Some were so neglected that they literally had to be entirely soda blasted and resurfaced.
I have given a lot of credit to the good mariners that rescued these precious crafts from the refuse piles.

It is then logically seen that each refit will have it's own time line and degree of expertise put into them.
If one can afford to contract out all repairs; all the better for them.
I for one have enjoyed to do all the step by step repairs to make things "Right"
There is three phases involved in part one of my project
Phase One- Resurfacing of the Cap section. Completed
Phase Two- Redoing the decking surfaces.Ongoing.
Phase Three-Resurfacing the hull.To come.
Of course there will also be the resurfacing of the console and the refurbishing and update of all Teaks and Mahoganies.
I am planning to ad some extra wood to the gunwale sections.
Plenty of exciting work to be still done..
You were saying that your hull number is 0021.
Is your unit a 19'4" Outrage 1973?
My Girl is a 75 #771.
The question being that How many hulls has the Whaler production lines have produced in one year?
Reading further I see that you have studied well of your hull's capacity and characteristics. I always thought that my swamping capacity was 4000lbs.
Hence my question to you.Did you actually personally measure up your Outrage?
It is possible that you could be the owner of a rare model here.
You know, After having talked with our friend Chuck Bennett from the Great Whaler head office.He stated to me that the top sections were of a desert tan color and that the hull itself was light or pale grey.
It made me wonder of the origins of both components.
I would find it very plausible that the cap came from a certain factory and that the hull itself could have been made elsewhere altogether.The assembly could have been made at neither but possibly yet another facility location.
Who knows?These are the questions that have remained unanswered.
I also have deducted that in a refit of one of those models, the cap section will involve a lot of cosmetic repairs.Not exactly the cup of tea for some of the owners out there.I have seen a number of those caps having been removed into a capless conversion.
The work is always ongoing, weather permitting..


Ritzyrags posted 10-22-2008 08:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Well,
I have been getting some conflicting infos here is it Thurston or is it Larry?
In any event, always a pleasure to have a nice chat about our Whalers.
You are right in your appreciation of the scenic aspect of our locale here.
It is mountain scenes as in Colorado added to the real pleasures of being on this rather large Vancouver Island amid the Pacific Ocean.
North of Seattle and on the same coast. It is a western paradise really.
To Google Victoria BC would show all the guys how very welcoming the areas are.

Having been here more than twice will show a net advantage on your side as I have not yet heard of your place of work and residence.

Bob Writ from the well known local group is the owner of Painters and also April Point.
There is also Salmon Seeker and Oak Bay Marine (group)
Big business all that and better left for another topic as there is a lot of buzz about the working conditions there.

If ever you do plan to show up, I will be glad to facilitate in any and all areas of your planned visit.
Being here and all would only show good proper etiquette and courtesy for one of our Whaler family member.
I will be glad to point out that there is absolutely nothing boring about our precious 19 Outrages.And even for different model owners, it will be a good read.

In the gel coat topic;
Upon my ordering,I have explicitly requested from the good Spectrum CO,
that the Desert Tan color for the Cap and decking must be exactly correct in it's tint.
Now I don't know if it is here or there, but the fact is;
There is a certain number of Classic hulls out there with slight variations in their gel coating hues.
And this from what I have; in the form of your great Classic
19; a proof today.
We are not here to split hairs in halves here but it comes to mind that there is a possibility of slight differences in the factory applied colors of the seventies.

I have ordered and am in possession of the Spectrum color adjusting kit.I have not had a need to use it as yet.
To my point of view in the finding of this new evidence in showing us an interesting possibility.
IE-UV exposure is in some cases a likely explanation but apparently not in all cases.
It is a well known fact that when gel coating "factory" or resurfacing by glass crews, ## The usage of different thinners will influence the color of the finished product##
So who really knows was was done and used on certain days on such and such orders..
As you well know the record will show that the color for the hull is Light Grey and that topside including all deckings will be Desert Tan for these model years.

It makes for an interesting refit does it not?
With two colors to contend with that is.
I am fortunate in the fact that;
I have resurfaced the ENTIRE areas with the Spectrum Gel of one color, and will be doing the entire boat areas in stages.
So not an issue with my project here...
Enough said about color.

I have taken the winged original console off and admittedly was intrigued about your customizing for height.
An interesting point to be sure.
If you ever happen to have left over teak spacers, send them my way as a testimony of your innovation, That is if you can.
I was mentioning of your tank components as a caution of things to come that is all.
My vent hose does run from the upper port side, under the gunwale and exit port bow with the usual brass chromed fitting.Easily replaceable.
I will be looking for replacement Whaler signs for each stern sections.
Let me know of your leads for those.
My refit has been a lot of fun and an attentive redressing in the acts of works in seeking her former glory.
It has been my pleasure to chat with you again.

Serge

ChiTown Cetacean posted 10-22-2008 08:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for ChiTown Cetacean  Send Email to ChiTown Cetacean     
Ritzy:

I have never contacted BW about the origin of Hull ID No. 0021. What I can guess about it is that it was built in 1972 and sold as a 1973 Model. At some point, I believe around Hull No. 165 or so, there was a slight modification made to the wood supports which are molded into the hull. There is a diagram of the wood supports available on the other Whaler website with the initials WC.

I would also guess that my boat was originally sold in Chicago through a now defunct BW dealer. It was probably originally outfitted for salmon trolling in Lake Michigan, because a kicker was mounted at some point in time. The boat's name was originally the "Sea Witch" in case any Chicago area Whaler fans might remember her.

She then spent at least a few years as a chase boat for a local private high school rowing team (St. Ignatius). The kids beat the tar out of her, and inflicted a million small dings. When I bought her in 2006, she had a 2003 Johnson 50 HP outboard, which was probably worth more than the boat. All the wood doors were gone, the bow rail was missing and the electrical system was a complete mess except for the motor harness and controls, which had been professionally installed.

Then after she became mine, she was re-Christened as the "Killer Whaler" and was once again outfitted for salmon fishing in Lake Michigan - which she did admirably this past year.

In looking for the Whaler decals, you should simply contact Magic Brush, which supplies the current OEM decals for BW. They will set you up with exactly what you need.

bretm1 posted 10-22-2008 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for bretm1  Send Email to bretm1     
In addition to the Spectrum color adjusting kit I would also suggest an Illudium Pu-36 Explosive Space Modulator.
It can make all the difference. It worked for Marvin The Martian.

All kidding aside, there is something slightly addictive about this thread. It may have to do more with your writing style than the content, although the content is very informative as well. Regardless, please take no offense. I crave more.

I think I may know what it is. Are you Higgins, from the Magnum PI show? As I read your prose, Higgins voice rings through my head. Do you at least have an english accent?

Either way, it's great reading after a long day. Please pardon my pathetic attempt at humor.

Best of luck with all of your adventures.

Bret
Buzzards Bay, MA.
(just like Campbell River, BC-but different)

Ritzyrags posted 10-23-2008 12:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Chi,

Well,
I think that you have brought up for us an interesting point here again.
And this in the form of seventies Classic hull numbers.
I think that we are all interested in knowing how these numbers were individually appointed.
You know what? IF there is a need to be..
I think that you just possibly should give a quick call to a Great and helpful gentleman named Chuck Bennett of the Great Whaler head Office.
Asking for him to look in his records in relation to the allotment of hull numbers for the 1973-74 and 75 years.
And more specifically how many hulls were fabricated in those years and if he has the time;
We all know how busy he is..for how many hulls model's were made for those years.
The hulls for both models and possibly "Bare hulls orders"will tell the tale here.
That would contribute to a nice area of information for the seventies Outrage and Revenge number question.
I have a very strong hunch that a large number of "Bare hulls" were made and sold here.
You have mentioned to all of us of Salmon trolling in lake Michigan.
Being a professional Fishing guide, I will look forward to hearing of some of your early mornings adventures.
I really like your chosen new name "Killer Whale". A name given to your Girl and perhaps in time;
I will entertain you with some of my experiences meeting and being closely eyed by them.
I thank You for referring me to The Magic Brush Decal site.
I will enjoy contacting them presently.

Serge.

L H G posted 10-23-2008 01:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
I am absolutely 100% positive that the "cap" gelcoat color on the 19's is not Desert Tan, but a lighter color. As I said, Spectrum has neither color codes correct. Looking at this photo, you can see the original cap color, still with original Whaler decal, in contrast to the Desert Tan interior, shown where the fuel fittings are.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Outrage%2019/?action=view& current=1187197-R1-021-9.jpg .

Ritzyrags posted 10-23-2008 01:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Bret,

Welcome to the thread.
I do remember of hearing of Marvin, but that was a long time ago when everything was in black and white.
I've got a feeling that in our days and age;
Things can't all be simply black and white for the both of us here.
I am glad that you have found some informative subjects and as a bonus some humor in our daily chats.
There is no need to apologize as you were never pathetic about putting your opinion for all of us to read here.
As a matter of fact;
We liked your humor and will be expecting to hear more of it in future chats.
Funny that you should think of me as British..
There is definitely some Scotts in our lines here but of our well thought of cousins, perhaps not.
Wishing you well and looking to chat again.

Serge.

Ritzyrags posted 10-23-2008 11:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     

Hello again Thurston,

Since that you deem to go straight to the color topic again.You of course,are always welcomed..
Well of course the cap is of a lighter color.
The photo that you have graciously posted for all of us here will clearly show that.
And we all can see that the inner and deck partitions are of a darker and most likely Desert Tan color.
So If I understand this right.
The Cap is "a lighter color" the decking is Desert Tan and the hull is light grey..
If you bear with me on this one, Larry ?..
My question here would be;
Upon very thorough inspection of your marvelously well kept surfaces and on the top cap and just below the red rubrail areas..Is there a lot of difference in both colors?
I wish that I could closely feel with my hand of those areas and closely eye the surfaces.
I am sure that My Girl would not be jealous as there is no need for her to know..
All joking apart,I am thanking you once again for so graciously bringing your beautiful Classic Outrage 1975 presence for all of us to learn from and this on this increasingly interesting topic..
I am in your debt.
It is always a pleasure to have you with us chatting a bit.

Yours,

L H G posted 10-23-2008 01:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
Serge

The cap (inclucing the area in the bow that holds the bow compartment doors) and the OUTER fiberglass shell of the entire hull casting are the same color, which doesn't seem to have a name. Spectrum's "Outrage Gray" it is not. Like with the ribside 21's, the original Boston Whaler color code for the gelcoat on these old boats seems to be lost.
This would also apply to the 21' "bananas" also.

The inside fiberglass mold of the hull casting, which includes the non-skid deck, are supposedly Whaler's new color at the time, Desert Tan. So is the console and the narrow stern deck cross cap concealing fuel lines and engine cables as they emerge from the tunnel. But as I said, Spectrum's color code is WAY OFF on that one too.

But Serge, it doesn't matter, since the brain does not remember color well at all. Whatever shade of gelcoat Spectrum has sent you should be fine, and will look great.

Keep up the good work, and I admire your efforts to re-gelcoat rather than take the easy way out by spray painting.

Larry

Ritzyrags posted 10-23-2008 03:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Larry,

You know what?
Now that you mention it.
I seemed to have noticed if your photo sent that the inside of your hull as in deck section was noticeably darker in color ..then my unit here.


http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=olympusphotos317wp4.jpg
I have entered a couple of photos describing the existing original colors of;
A- My decking section with my stencilled original number and
B-A view of the stern section of my cap in repair but still original gel.

http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=olympusphotos338vc0.jpg
On my unit both cap and decking areas are of the same color.
A bit darker than the hull section but still both unified as one color for the whole top section.
Hence my curiosity about your like new and paler cap section.
Thank for the good words of encouragement and for being here with us and having fun today.

Serge.

ChiTown Cetacean posted 10-24-2008 01:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for ChiTown Cetacean  Send Email to ChiTown Cetacean     
L H G and Ritzy:

By the way, I looked at the Photobucket shots of L H G's 1975. It is positively sick how gleaming she is. Unbelievable.

I did notice that L H G is missing a piece of the wood trim just above the double doors to the bow storage compartment.

As it turns out, I have one of those pieces in the original Whaler wood. It will need to be refinished, but it is yours if you need it. Also, I have a set of original Whaler wood doors to that same compartment, but they have been drilled a few too many times and may have been sanded enough times that they are now too far gone.

I made new replacements out of Okume marine plywood. But I did consider having the holes in the Whaler wood doors plugged and then gluing a new layer of mahogany veneer over them. Those doors are also yours for the asking.

Also, to anyone out there who might be in need. There are some approximately 1 1/4 wide wood strips (I think these are teak, but hard to be sure) which run down the inner sides of the gunnels on the '73's and '74's (with the porthole cutouts). I got these pieces some time ago, thinking they had been missing from my boat when I bought it. Well, it seems that these may have been added to the models made at some point after 0021, since they don't fit on my boat.

In any event, they are in perfect structural condition. I have sanded them and put on a couple coats of teak oil. They may need a little more sanding. But, these are also free to whomever may need them. These are quite long, so pick up in Chicago would be the preferred way of dealing with these.

Ritzyrags posted 10-24-2008 09:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
I must say a Big Thank You for the help of Jim for having rescued my Thread from what I can now call "Purgatory".
For all of you non Catholic guys, well it's a place that is lost out there somewhere.
You are a Prince Jim.

Serge.

Ritzyrags posted 10-24-2008 09:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Chi,

"There is a time for everything and everything in it's own time" As my Dear mother would often say;
Bless her heart;
And this is the time that we; as a concerned group must agree with you.
Larry's incredibly well kept Outrage Classic 19 is a picture perfect example of what a precious Classic should look like.
Gleaming and Sweet.I must give him full credit for the first rate cleaning job and detailing to make her so.
I think that he may take you up on the offer to help with some of the parts available.
Thanking you for your generous offer to help with the Teak moldings.
I am sure that someone in refit mode will talk about them soon.

Until then.

Serge.

Ritzyrags posted 10-25-2008 11:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
It is my pleasure to be with You again,,

You will understand that this thread is in fact the original;
"Do you want to talk about you Whaler thread"
It was shown to all of us that there was a temporary problem with this thread due to some technical problems. After having notified our good host Jim, he was kind enough to find it again and reposition it to the format.
I have notified Jim that I would like him to see the original thread title (mentioned above) put back on this chat line.
Just for the fact that some of you will still be looking for the original title in your efforts to post on your familiar grounds.
I am totally confident that Jim will find a way to make things right and put the thread as it was originally registered before the small glitch happened.
Playing with, troubleshooting and repairing machinery on a daily basis has brought me to understand of problems resulting from unforeseen circumstances.

On a slightly different note,
And since that I've got the floor;

I think that it is grand time that we should give Jim more credit; And this for his efforts in making this site,what it is..
Let's give him some input here.
Bringing Old Time Mariners and Whaler Salts together and this.. from widely diversed backgrounds;
Hey! is this the surf that I am hearing here or is it the clash of opinions in the turmoil?
I personally enjoy the differences of opinions.
If it ever was an issue, here on this site;
As from diversity will emerge "Newness" in the form of the way things are shaping to be.
I wish that the world as a whole would be that honest..and simple.
I will go on record to say as an Official Whaler Family Member by choice;
That I will officially ask the question;
Who will second me for my motion to nominate a special day of appreciation for our host and his very personal efforts in making his dream Whaler site a reality.
.And I'm not kidding about this one.
Let's see if I do get some come back on this positive thought.
Who will be my second in motion?

Ritzyrags posted 10-26-2008 08:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Well Hey,
I sure want to talk about my Whaler and my Whaler related friends, but the last time that I looked which was yesterday;
There was a motion to the floor.
Is it that nobody read the last posting or is it that no one understood?
I for one am not that keen on arm twisting but in any event my motion does stand until I hear otherwise.
I firmly do believe that there is a certain amount of recognition to be rightfully given here and that it occured to me that there is a lack in that department..
I will be open to suggestions.Positive ones that is..

Serge.

Ritzyrags posted 10-26-2008 08:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Well..;
As our Iconic friend and memorable President Ronald used to say;
I did review some of the comments posted to this thread lately and have found that a lot of the comments are so very ripe with the actual events involved in the present lives of the speakers..
I for one have truly appreciated of the flavor of the events when being recounted.
On a different note,
I have heard and this from a very reliable source..
Of an interesting rumor lately..
An exciting victory for free enterprise that has seen our Good Buddy Jim MC having adopted a new project Whaler boat.
I hope that I have not spilled the beans on that one, but I am curiously excited for him.
It's just another case of putting myself in their shoes as new owner and having fun going through my mind with the repairs involved.
Nuts and bolts tool talk, all of that.


But back to our Whaler project refit, the unequaled Classic Outrage 19'4" circa 1975.
I am presently at study for redoing the non slip molded polyester resin surfaces comprising about eighty percent of the decking areas.
I have come across a quaint method involving a soft type of rubber mat like molding.
A molding that when being applied to the freshly layed gel, will inprint the wet application with a "factory like" original surface pattern.
Another method considered will involve a sand or nut shell application to the wet gel surfaces and a further cover of gel.
I am leaning toward the original factory finish but will have to verify the availability of the molding product.
There may be several different source of this type of product available.

Serge.

L H G posted 10-27-2008 01:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
ChiTown - Thanks for the offer on the bow locker teak trim, but I won't need it, as when the photo was taken, those parts were out of the boat for varnishing work. In finding this boat, I was fortunate that every single piece of original teak woodwork was intact and in good condition.
fno posted 10-27-2008 07:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
Yeah, thanks Jim......
Ritzyrags posted 10-27-2008 08:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Well I'm back on the saddle again, well actually just getting of of it.
The last of my four ten hour night shift has ended at five this morning.And I am reading your thoughts and jotting down a few of my own.
Looking at my morning paper it is mentioning that;
"Seven Orcas missing,Feared dead in last year"
Scientists say that lack of Salmon a factor in resident whale population decline. http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story. html?id=96e38bbd-929b-48f3-8708-87451e62274c
On a different subject.
I have removed my bow cleat and will be looking to rechrome this basic brass fitting.I may also have some minor items to be redone.
I find it very likely that some of you guys may have some leads on your local talented resurfacing pros.
You are welcomed to chip in.

Serge.

Ritzyrags posted 10-29-2008 08:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Deepwater,

I have thought of your story and am curious about the Whaler model that you have adopted.
Would it be a Montauk?
Perhaps a Revenge?
I do remember visiting Maine way back then when a was very young.It seems like a hundred years ago by now.
I remembered traveling by car for several hours to make to the sunny and sandy beaches, to finally make it there to be told that they were closed due to some shark sightings.
This was several decades ago and things may be more secured today by netting systems perhaps?
I am curious to know of existing Whaler Clubs in your local areas due to the fact that I would like to eventually get one going in our locale here.

Ritzyrags posted 10-30-2008 12:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
Talking on line with my good buddy Scott today;
I have learned of his progress on his sistership the Outrage 19 Classic 1972.
He isn't going at it "with the back of the spoon" let me tell you that much.
I will be looking forward to seeing his progress in the complete refit that he is presently busy involving himself.

I am presently looking at some new wood garnishing trim lately..
I have come across some twelve footers of one half by four,"Tiger" Wood right now.
It will be found at a small finishing wood supply store of my locale here.
It is a paler and very hard wood with the typical striping in the grain,hence the name.
I will be replacing the tiny teak slats with this marvelous new wood garnishings.
The idea here is to improve and update on the original set up.
I also have some personal updates to be designed as far as the set of three hatch's doors are concerned.
The teak part of the plywood is only skin thin and has been severely weather beaten and worn right out in places.
I am feeling very fortunate to have all this supply of very exotic and rare hard wood at my finger tips.
At twenty dollars, plus a linear foot, it can't be seen as cheap,
but the results in the looks and shape of my girl will make it well worthwhile.
I truly am excited about this winter work detail.

Serge.

Ritzyrags posted 11-05-2008 02:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
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