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elaelap posted 10-26-2008 10:30 AM ET (US)
...and trying for a couple of catch-and-release striped bass on the lower reaches of the Petaluma River, which ain't a river at all but is instead the northwestern-most arm of the San Francisco Bay complex, when what sort of strange craft buzzes overhead, lands, and heads my way?
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane042.jpg
The float plane's skipper checks out my little center console 15, no doubt wishing he could trade places with me:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane046.jpg
Then he turns...
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane047.jpg
...and heads back up-river:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane049.jpg
He takes off and zooms right past my boat, heading south toward San Francisco:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane054.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane055.jpg
Never a dull moment in a Boston Whaler, eh?
Tony

jimh posted 10-26-2008 10:35 AM ET (US)
Tony--That float plane is probably older than your Boston Whaler. I think that production of float planes was suspended for a long while due to concerns about product liability litigation, and most of the ones you see these days are classic oldies, like the one in your photo-essay appears to be.
fourdfish posted 10-26-2008 10:38 AM ET (US)
He might be a member here who thought he would check you and the boat out!
Tom W Clark posted 10-26-2008 11:25 AM ET (US)
That is a very nice (and rather rare) Cessna 195. It appears to have the factory float kit installed as evidenced by the three-finned tail for stability. Very cool.
The Cessna 190/195 (a.k.a. "Businessliner") was only made from 1947 to 1954.
Float plane production was never suspended. The cost to insure them increased dramatically and reduced their popularity in the 1980s but there was never a time when float planes were not made.
It should be pointed out that the floats themselves that have undergone a shift in production. Float planes are not made but rather float kits are fitted to land planes of several manufacturers.
This Cessna 195 has a set of EDO aluminum floats. EDO has made the vast majority of floats in existence and has been in production since before WWII. EDO floats can still be made to order by Kenmore Air Harbor here just north of Seattle as they bought all the tooling and licenses for their production.

Tom W Clark posted 10-26-2008 11:34 AM ET (US)
This particular Cessna 195 is a 1949 model:
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N3877V.html
ConB posted 10-26-2008 12:06 PM ET (US)
Being we are on the subject of float planes seen from Boston Whalers, does anyone know what kind of plane is in the picture taken by LHG while on Lake Charlevoix, MI this summer? My chartplotter showed the lighted buoys that mark the outer edges of this planes dock.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/ Harbor%20Springs%20MI%202008/?action=view¤t=IMG_0123.jpg
Con
elaelap posted 10-26-2008 12:24 PM ET (US)
Is that a mooring line hanging off the plane's tail? And what a cool old classic. Made my day yesterday.
Tony
[I'd put this over in Meta where it belongs, but...]
Thanks, jimh, for fixing up this thread. I just don't get it with Photobucket. It worked fine for me for three or four years, but in the last year or so it's gone completely downhill. I post a lot of photos here, and the thing has become glitzy when I copy and post more than one link at a time. This never used to happen. Anybody else having this problem?
Tom W Clark posted 10-26-2008 12:37 PM ET (US)
Con,
That is a Cessna 208 Caravan, a (very expensive) single engine turboprop. This plane is fitted with Wipline amphibious floats.
jay18 posted 10-26-2008 01:57 PM ET (US)
I had the same thing happen to me once here in Door County. We were coming in from an afternoon of boating, and this ugly turquoise and pink sea plane with a parrot painted on the tail was just cruising around. the harbor. Someone later told me it was Jimmy Buffet who was playing at Alpine Valley over the weekend. I wouldn't have done anything different had I known, I'm not a big fan of his or his $12 Margaritas in Key West.
JC
fourdfish posted 10-26-2008 03:00 PM ET (US)
jay--Heard that same rumor. Also heard Tiger was up in the Door!
jay18 posted 10-26-2008 03:42 PM ET (US)
No rumor. I remember the day well. It was in Ephraim where I live. Tiger supposedly was here on his Yacht during the PGA when it was at Whistling Straits, but i'm not a believer in that. It seems pointless to bring your boat up the St. Lawrence just for a weekend in Wisconsin.
RFK posted 10-26-2008 04:20 PM ET (US)
Tom, you are amazing.
Dick
chopbuster posted 10-26-2008 05:14 PM ET (US)
That trailing line off of the strut is more than likely a uhf antenna wire similar to those used on subs.
Bet you were photographed.
fourdfish posted 10-26-2008 05:42 PM ET (US)
Not to derail this thread but have heard of many celebs
visiting the Door. Many people don't really know what they are missing. (BTW-The way I heard it, Tiger was scouting some property on which to build a golf course.)
highanddry posted 10-26-2008 06:28 PM ET (US)
It is a De Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver.
highanddry posted 10-26-2008 06:31 PM ET (US)
Oops, sorry, it is a Cessna 195. Both of which I have some time in, just did not have my glasses on, guess I need them more than I thought.
highanddry posted 10-26-2008 06:34 PM ET (US)
The second aircraft is a Cessna 208 Caravan, it is powered by a PT-6 P&W turboprop. The propeller is a McCauley C703. I also have flight time in the 208. I have been to Flight Safety for both flight and mechanical on them.
Tom W Clark posted 10-26-2008 07:32 PM ET (US)
The lines trailing off the plane are mooring/handling lines, not antennas. They simply lay straight with the airflow when the plane is in motion and dangle there to grab when it is not. It seems odd, but they do not flap at all.
highseasdrifter posted 10-26-2008 09:21 PM ET (US)
Buffet did a cruise-by in Ephraim? Never heard that one. I did hear a similar story in Dutch Harbor, AK. They say he pulled his plane up on the beach outside The Elbowroom, then went inside and played. All unannounced.
home Aside posted 10-26-2008 10:36 PM ET (US)
Here's a shot from the GLBWCC North Channel Trip 2004, a sea plane coming in on the port side of Backlash, usually see a few of them up there....
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v368/HomeAside/North%20Channel%202004/ ?action=view¤t=30200009.jpg
Pat
Tom W Clark posted 10-26-2008 11:18 PM ET (US)
Now *that* float plane is a deHavilland Beaver as modified by Kenmore Air.
PeteB88 posted 10-26-2008 11:38 PM ET (US)
Here's the old Cessna info
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=3877V&cmndfind.x=0&cmndfind.y=0
andygere posted 10-27-2008 05:12 PM ET (US)
Tony, cool photos, any luck with the stripers?
Tom, is there anything you are not an expert on? Amazing.
sapple posted 10-27-2008 06:03 PM ET (US)
This guy has an interesting set up on Smith Mt. Lake, VA
[urlhttp://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc264/sapple2/Sea%20Plane%20on%20SML/SeaplaneonSML.jpg[/url]
sapple posted 10-27-2008 06:04 PM ET (US)
oops !
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc264/sapple2/Sea%20Plane%20on%20SML/ SeaplaneonSML.jpg
lizard posted 10-27-2008 10:16 PM ET (US)
OK so my addition is kind of out there-
A couple of years back, I was in Vancouver (the city) visiting an old friend. We rented some kayaks and went out into the harbor. We immediately were accompanied by some harbor seals, who stayed with us the entire afternoon.
Getting near sunset, we paddled into this particular area of the harbor. Suddenly, we heard bagpipes. (My grandfather was Scottish). On a lone rock stood a bagpiper in full regalia. The setting sun shone on him and the rock was grey and simple. It was like the famous painting "Grey and Gold". He was blowing on the pipes, the sea lions were nudging our kayaks and suddenly, this sea plane comes over head and lands.
It was an incredible moment and one I remind myself of, when the rest of the world seems chaotic, spiraling and sad. Simple beauty.
jimh posted 10-27-2008 10:30 PM ET (US)
I saw that same float plane on Lake Charlevoix over Labor Day weekend. I looked up the tail number. It is owned by an LLC out of the Grand Rapids, Michigan area.
GOOGLE returned this interesting link:
http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft-for-sale/ CESSNA-CARAVAN-208-AMPHIBIAN/2006-CESSNA-CARAVAN-208-AMPHIBIAN/1143937. htm?guid=BD0CA4809E854A53B9E3164E5BF66131
It really is amazing what GOOGLE can find, isn't it?

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Author	Topic: So I'm just minding my business...pics
elaelap	posted 10-26-2008 10:30 AM ET (US) ...and trying for a couple of catch-and-release striped bass on the lower reaches of the Petaluma River, which ain't a river at all but is instead the northwestern-most arm of the San Francisco Bay complex, when what sort of strange craft buzzes overhead, lands, and heads my way? http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane042.jpg The float plane's skipper checks out my little center console 15, no doubt wishing he could trade places with me: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane046.jpg Then he turns... http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane047.jpg ...and heads back up-river: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane049.jpg He takes off and zooms right past my boat, heading south toward San Francisco: http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane054.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/elaelap/Floatplane055.jpg Never a dull moment in a Boston Whaler, eh? Tony
jimh	posted 10-26-2008 10:35 AM ET (US) Tony--That float plane is probably older than your Boston Whaler. I think that production of float planes was suspended for a long while due to concerns about product liability litigation, and most of the ones you see these days are classic oldies, like the one in your photo-essay appears to be.
fourdfish	posted 10-26-2008 10:38 AM ET (US) He might be a member here who thought he would check you and the boat out!
Tom W Clark	posted 10-26-2008 11:25 AM ET (US) That is a very nice (and rather rare) Cessna 195. It appears to have the factory float kit installed as evidenced by the three-finned tail for stability. Very cool. The Cessna 190/195 (a.k.a. "Businessliner") was only made from 1947 to 1954. Float plane production was never suspended. The cost to insure them increased dramatically and reduced their popularity in the 1980s but there was never a time when float planes were not made. It should be pointed out that the floats themselves that have undergone a shift in production. Float planes are not made but rather float kits are fitted to land planes of several manufacturers. This Cessna 195 has a set of EDO aluminum floats. EDO has made the vast majority of floats in existence and has been in production since before WWII. EDO floats can still be made to order by Kenmore Air Harbor here just north of Seattle as they bought all the tooling and licenses for their production.
Tom W Clark	posted 10-26-2008 11:34 AM ET (US) This particular Cessna 195 is a 1949 model: http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N3877V.html
ConB	posted 10-26-2008 12:06 PM ET (US) Being we are on the subject of float planes seen from Boston Whalers, does anyone know what kind of plane is in the picture taken by LHG while on Lake Charlevoix, MI this summer? My chartplotter showed the lighted buoys that mark the outer edges of this planes dock. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/ Harbor%20Springs%20MI%202008/?action=view¤t=IMG_0123.jpg Con
elaelap	posted 10-26-2008 12:24 PM ET (US) Is that a mooring line hanging off the plane's tail? And what a cool old classic. Made my day yesterday. Tony [I'd put this over in Meta where it belongs, but...] Thanks, jimh, for fixing up this thread. I just don't get it with Photobucket. It worked fine for me for three or four years, but in the last year or so it's gone completely downhill. I post a lot of photos here, and the thing has become glitzy when I copy and post more than one link at a time. This never used to happen. Anybody else having this problem?
Tom W Clark	posted 10-26-2008 12:37 PM ET (US) Con, That is a Cessna 208 Caravan, a (very expensive) single engine turboprop. This plane is fitted with Wipline amphibious floats.
jay18	posted 10-26-2008 01:57 PM ET (US) I had the same thing happen to me once here in Door County. We were coming in from an afternoon of boating, and this ugly turquoise and pink sea plane with a parrot painted on the tail was just cruising around. the harbor. Someone later told me it was Jimmy Buffet who was playing at Alpine Valley over the weekend. I wouldn't have done anything different had I known, I'm not a big fan of his or his $12 Margaritas in Key West. JC
fourdfish	posted 10-26-2008 03:00 PM ET (US) jay--Heard that same rumor. Also heard Tiger was up in the Door!
jay18	posted 10-26-2008 03:42 PM ET (US) No rumor. I remember the day well. It was in Ephraim where I live. Tiger supposedly was here on his Yacht during the PGA when it was at Whistling Straits, but i'm not a believer in that. It seems pointless to bring your boat up the St. Lawrence just for a weekend in Wisconsin.
RFK	posted 10-26-2008 04:20 PM ET (US) Tom, you are amazing. Dick
chopbuster	posted 10-26-2008 05:14 PM ET (US) That trailing line off of the strut is more than likely a uhf antenna wire similar to those used on subs. Bet you were photographed.
fourdfish	posted 10-26-2008 05:42 PM ET (US) Not to derail this thread but have heard of many celebs visiting the Door. Many people don't really know what they are missing. (BTW-The way I heard it, Tiger was scouting some property on which to build a golf course.)
highanddry	posted 10-26-2008 06:28 PM ET (US) It is a De Havilland Canada DHC-2 Beaver.
highanddry	posted 10-26-2008 06:31 PM ET (US) Oops, sorry, it is a Cessna 195. Both of which I have some time in, just did not have my glasses on, guess I need them more than I thought.
highanddry	posted 10-26-2008 06:34 PM ET (US) The second aircraft is a Cessna 208 Caravan, it is powered by a PT-6 P&W turboprop. The propeller is a McCauley C703. I also have flight time in the 208. I have been to Flight Safety for both flight and mechanical on them.
Tom W Clark	posted 10-26-2008 07:32 PM ET (US) The lines trailing off the plane are mooring/handling lines, not antennas. They simply lay straight with the airflow when the plane is in motion and dangle there to grab when it is not. It seems odd, but they do not flap at all.
highseasdrifter	posted 10-26-2008 09:21 PM ET (US) Buffet did a cruise-by in Ephraim? Never heard that one. I did hear a similar story in Dutch Harbor, AK. They say he pulled his plane up on the beach outside The Elbowroom, then went inside and played. All unannounced.
home Aside	posted 10-26-2008 10:36 PM ET (US) Here's a shot from the GLBWCC North Channel Trip 2004, a sea plane coming in on the port side of Backlash, usually see a few of them up there.... http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v368/HomeAside/North%20Channel%202004/ ?action=view¤t=30200009.jpg Pat
Tom W Clark	posted 10-26-2008 11:18 PM ET (US) Now that float plane is a deHavilland Beaver as modified by Kenmore Air.
PeteB88	posted 10-26-2008 11:38 PM ET (US) Here's the old Cessna info http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=3877V&cmndfind.x=0&cmndfind.y=0
andygere	posted 10-27-2008 05:12 PM ET (US) Tony, cool photos, any luck with the stripers? Tom, is there anything you are not an expert on? Amazing.
sapple	posted 10-27-2008 06:03 PM ET (US) This guy has an interesting set up on Smith Mt. Lake, VA [urlhttp://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc264/sapple2/Sea%20Plane%20on%20SML/SeaplaneonSML.jpg[/url]
sapple	posted 10-27-2008 06:04 PM ET (US) oops ! http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc264/sapple2/Sea%20Plane%20on%20SML/ SeaplaneonSML.jpg
lizard	posted 10-27-2008 10:16 PM ET (US) OK so my addition is kind of out there- A couple of years back, I was in Vancouver (the city) visiting an old friend. We rented some kayaks and went out into the harbor. We immediately were accompanied by some harbor seals, who stayed with us the entire afternoon. Getting near sunset, we paddled into this particular area of the harbor. Suddenly, we heard bagpipes. (My grandfather was Scottish). On a lone rock stood a bagpiper in full regalia. The setting sun shone on him and the rock was grey and simple. It was like the famous painting "Grey and Gold". He was blowing on the pipes, the sea lions were nudging our kayaks and suddenly, this sea plane comes over head and lands. It was an incredible moment and one I remind myself of, when the rest of the world seems chaotic, spiraling and sad. Simple beauty.
jimh	posted 10-27-2008 10:30 PM ET (US) I saw that same float plane on Lake Charlevoix over Labor Day weekend. I looked up the tail number. It is owned by an LLC out of the Grand Rapids, Michigan area. GOOGLE returned this interesting link: http://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft-for-sale/ CESSNA-CARAVAN-208-AMPHIBIAN/2006-CESSNA-CARAVAN-208-AMPHIBIAN/1143937. htm?guid=BD0CA4809E854A53B9E3164E5BF66131 It really is amazing what GOOGLE can find, isn't it?