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JMARTIN posted 11-14-2008 07:07 PM ET (US)
Recently back from a trip to Maine and saw a couple of these neat looking beauties.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3589.jpg
Little tugs, what do they push and pull around, the fishing boats?
I would have thought that there would be Boston Whalers all over the place in Maine. If this dock was in the Pacific Northwest, there would at least be a couple of Whalers in the bunch.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3594.jpg
John
Jefecinco posted 11-14-2008 07:28 PM ET (US)
Those yankees up in Maine know how to squeeze a nickel. That may help to explain a dearth of Whalers.
Is that an engine box in the wooden boat? I'm guessing the nice fancy work at the bow is for day to day protection rather than for pushing. A purpose built push boat would have a squared off bow unless it was built to fit into a notched hull.
Butch
foghorn posted 11-14-2008 08:29 PM ET (US)
Yawl boat. Used to move engineless Maine windjammers. Also used for Chesapeake skipjacks, I think.
SpongeBob posted 11-14-2008 08:30 PM ET (US)
It's called a Yawl Boat. In Maine it's purpose was and is to push schooners in and around harbors. On the Chesapeake you will find them pushing SkipJacks and Log Canoes. When engines came into prominent use it was easier to stick a large motor in a small boat and strap it to the stern than it was to bore a shaft log through the keelsons of 80' plus sailcraft. They are traditionally hauled up on davits either amidships or on the stern.
Jeff
SpongeBob posted 11-14-2008 08:32 PM ET (US)
Beat me to it fog.
Jeff
A2J15Sport posted 11-14-2008 08:41 PM ET (US)
It's a push boat. The "knot" of line on the bow gives it away.
Probably some significant power under the box. At least a big wheel underneath.
Casco Bay Outrage posted 11-14-2008 08:44 PM ET (US)
John -
Guessing you were up north, Boothbay? Camden?
Hope you had a good time and ate lots of lobster. Prices are so low, it's cheaper than....well, almost everything, gas, milk etc.
Butch - We call it yankee thrift!
foghorn posted 11-14-2008 09:04 PM ET (US)
Sorry, Jeff
For the keeners, have a look at:
http://frederickleblancphoto.blogspot.com
Scroll down the page and change the month to October,
scroll down to picture of yawlboat in action
I just returned from a quick holiday in Stonington, Me.
A couple of Maine windjammers came in on the evening breeze, very pretty.
Also visited Castine, saw the T.S. State of Maine. Very impressive. Walked through an open gate, and got very close. No obvious security. Very surprising.
Foghorn

JMARTIN posted 11-14-2008 11:35 PM ET (US)
Here is another one.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3591.jpg
So they push around the shrink wrapped boats?
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3584.jpg
Casco Bay, you are right. My wife and I went to Portland on business and then rented a car and went up the coast. You guys got some neat stuff up there. Got some kick ass fog also.
I am not familiar with "swell". Look how they tie up the tenders. Still, no Whalers.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3582.jpg
Lobster was 3.99 a pound. I ate a bunch of it.
John

towboater posted 11-15-2008 03:33 AM ET (US)
wow, looks like a very large tide swing to deal with.
As always, great photo's Jmart.
Now Im hungry for Lobster.
Commenting on the first photo link:
The knot of rope adorning the bow of the yawl is called a "bow pud". Id bet that little bugger pushes pretty hard and handles great as long as you are not in a hurry.
Interesting there is no bow bit...instead, a fairly short rope secured to a eye-bolt in the bow stem. No big deal really.
Now I wonder if the post at the helm is a tow bit or something sensual? hehe. I guess either way, the operator is required to become up close and personal with it.
mk

cgodfrey posted 11-15-2008 09:13 AM ET (US)
I've never seen a boat shrink wrapped while still in the water. Here where the water behind the breakwall typically freezes, everything gets hauled out, then shrinkwrapped.
How do they accomplish it? From a little boat? Or is there some kind of shrink wrapping drydock?
Casco Bay Outrage posted 11-15-2008 10:53 AM ET (US)
John -
It's too bad I didn't know you were coming. I could have shown you at least 1 whaler and great pub (good beer and food) on the Portland waterfront.
When Jim McP (Scrimshaw) came up to visit me this summer, whalers appeared out of nowhere. We saw 3 classic Outrage 21's in the space of 2 hours.
It's foggy today. (How foggy is it?). It's so foggy you can't see the street light across the street from the house.
MK - The average tidal drop in Portland is 9' and increases as you travel downeast.
C - Many of the larger boats are shrink wrapped on the water. No special tricks, just two guys, a roll and a torch.
While we get a fair amount of ice, there is enough tidal change and waves to keep it from really locking in boats that are at the outer sections of piers and marina's.
JMARTIN posted 11-15-2008 01:43 PM ET (US)
Next time back, I will take you up on the boat, beer and food. The company that I am franchised with, was bought by Wright Express.
Does the Harbor Master take you out to your little free standing dock?
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3593.jpg
It looks like they were bringing in some of these docks for the winter.
I am addicted to Lobster Rolls. You have some fine local beer offerings also.
John
frostbite posted 11-15-2008 02:27 PM ET (US)
The yawl boat pictured looks like it belongs to the J & E Riggin or the Nathaniel Bowditch, Windjammers in the local fleet.
Large wooden boats do not like being on the hard for long periods of time, thus the in the water shrink wrapping. Cedar logs chained together around the hull is a traditional method of keeping ice away from the hull.
Most of the pleasure boats and inner harbor slips have been hauled for the season already. To get to your inner harbor float you use your own dingy. Camden harbor had a Whaler dealership for close to 40 years, and Whalers are still a large proportion of the smaller boats.
Lobster was $2.00 per pound at the dock recently, not necessarily making everyone happy.
number9 posted 11-16-2008 01:10 AM ET (US)
As we know Whalers carry a premium price wise and not much reason rather than safety to beat one up as a work boat.
Bill

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Author	Topic: What is this type of boat used for?
JMARTIN	posted 11-14-2008 07:07 PM ET (US) Recently back from a trip to Maine and saw a couple of these neat looking beauties. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3589.jpg Little tugs, what do they push and pull around, the fishing boats? I would have thought that there would be Boston Whalers all over the place in Maine. If this dock was in the Pacific Northwest, there would at least be a couple of Whalers in the bunch. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3594.jpg John
Jefecinco	posted 11-14-2008 07:28 PM ET (US) Those yankees up in Maine know how to squeeze a nickel. That may help to explain a dearth of Whalers. Is that an engine box in the wooden boat? I'm guessing the nice fancy work at the bow is for day to day protection rather than for pushing. A purpose built push boat would have a squared off bow unless it was built to fit into a notched hull. Butch
foghorn	posted 11-14-2008 08:29 PM ET (US) Yawl boat. Used to move engineless Maine windjammers. Also used for Chesapeake skipjacks, I think.
SpongeBob	posted 11-14-2008 08:30 PM ET (US) It's called a Yawl Boat. In Maine it's purpose was and is to push schooners in and around harbors. On the Chesapeake you will find them pushing SkipJacks and Log Canoes. When engines came into prominent use it was easier to stick a large motor in a small boat and strap it to the stern than it was to bore a shaft log through the keelsons of 80' plus sailcraft. They are traditionally hauled up on davits either amidships or on the stern. Jeff
SpongeBob	posted 11-14-2008 08:32 PM ET (US) Beat me to it fog. Jeff
A2J15Sport	posted 11-14-2008 08:41 PM ET (US) It's a push boat. The "knot" of line on the bow gives it away. Probably some significant power under the box. At least a big wheel underneath.
Casco Bay Outrage	posted 11-14-2008 08:44 PM ET (US) John - Guessing you were up north, Boothbay? Camden? Hope you had a good time and ate lots of lobster. Prices are so low, it's cheaper than....well, almost everything, gas, milk etc. Butch - We call it yankee thrift!
foghorn	posted 11-14-2008 09:04 PM ET (US) Sorry, Jeff For the keeners, have a look at: http://frederickleblancphoto.blogspot.com Scroll down the page and change the month to October, scroll down to picture of yawlboat in action I just returned from a quick holiday in Stonington, Me. A couple of Maine windjammers came in on the evening breeze, very pretty. Also visited Castine, saw the T.S. State of Maine. Very impressive. Walked through an open gate, and got very close. No obvious security. Very surprising. Foghorn
JMARTIN	posted 11-14-2008 11:35 PM ET (US) Here is another one. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3591.jpg So they push around the shrink wrapped boats? http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3584.jpg Casco Bay, you are right. My wife and I went to Portland on business and then rented a car and went up the coast. You guys got some neat stuff up there. Got some kick ass fog also. I am not familiar with "swell". Look how they tie up the tenders. Still, no Whalers. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3582.jpg Lobster was 3.99 a pound. I ate a bunch of it. John
towboater	posted 11-15-2008 03:33 AM ET (US) wow, looks like a very large tide swing to deal with. As always, great photo's Jmart. Now Im hungry for Lobster. Commenting on the first photo link: The knot of rope adorning the bow of the yawl is called a "bow pud". Id bet that little bugger pushes pretty hard and handles great as long as you are not in a hurry. Interesting there is no bow bit...instead, a fairly short rope secured to a eye-bolt in the bow stem. No big deal really. Now I wonder if the post at the helm is a tow bit or something sensual? hehe. I guess either way, the operator is required to become up close and personal with it. mk
cgodfrey	posted 11-15-2008 09:13 AM ET (US) I've never seen a boat shrink wrapped while still in the water. Here where the water behind the breakwall typically freezes, everything gets hauled out, then shrinkwrapped. How do they accomplish it? From a little boat? Or is there some kind of shrink wrapping drydock?
Casco Bay Outrage	posted 11-15-2008 10:53 AM ET (US) John - It's too bad I didn't know you were coming. I could have shown you at least 1 whaler and great pub (good beer and food) on the Portland waterfront. When Jim McP (Scrimshaw) came up to visit me this summer, whalers appeared out of nowhere. We saw 3 classic Outrage 21's in the space of 2 hours. It's foggy today. (How foggy is it?). It's so foggy you can't see the street light across the street from the house. MK - The average tidal drop in Portland is 9' and increases as you travel downeast. C - Many of the larger boats are shrink wrapped on the water. No special tricks, just two guys, a roll and a torch. While we get a fair amount of ice, there is enough tidal change and waves to keep it from really locking in boats that are at the outer sections of piers and marina's.
JMARTIN	posted 11-15-2008 01:43 PM ET (US) Next time back, I will take you up on the boat, beer and food. The company that I am franchised with, was bought by Wright Express. Does the Harbor Master take you out to your little free standing dock? http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF3593.jpg It looks like they were bringing in some of these docks for the winter. I am addicted to Lobster Rolls. You have some fine local beer offerings also. John
frostbite	posted 11-15-2008 02:27 PM ET (US) The yawl boat pictured looks like it belongs to the J & E Riggin or the Nathaniel Bowditch, Windjammers in the local fleet. Large wooden boats do not like being on the hard for long periods of time, thus the in the water shrink wrapping. Cedar logs chained together around the hull is a traditional method of keeping ice away from the hull. Most of the pleasure boats and inner harbor slips have been hauled for the season already. To get to your inner harbor float you use your own dingy. Camden harbor had a Whaler dealership for close to 40 years, and Whalers are still a large proportion of the smaller boats. Lobster was $2.00 per pound at the dock recently, not necessarily making everyone happy.
number9	posted 11-16-2008 01:10 AM ET (US) As we know Whalers carry a premium price wise and not much reason rather than safety to beat one up as a work boat. Bill