posted 01-02-2009 06:55 PM ET (US)            

It is described as having a built in 30 gal. stainless steel fuel tank, which sounds low in capacity. Don't know if it is original.

posted 01-02-2009 07:31 PM ET (US)            

There are a number of Whaler knock off manufactures that build hulls that where splashed and modified for actual Whalers hulls (or claim to be).

Transport boats [url]http://transportboats.com/[/url} offers a 22' lo profile model.

Gulf coast boats http://www.gulfcoastboats.net/models.htm offers an 18 and 20 foot model that look like a whaler as well as a 22 that looks like a modified whaler.

posted 01-02-2009 07:38 PM ET (US)            

The Lo Pro 19 was a derivative of the original Outrage 19 which was one of two "banana" models that Whaler made, the other being the original Outrage 21.

Only the Outrage 19 was offered as a lo-pro variant because the hull itself formed one half of its topsides. The 21 foot model's hull ended virtually at the waterline with the "cap" making up the topsides and foredeck.

posted 01-05-2009 10:03 PM ET (US)            

In the fall of 1977, I took a tour of the plant and recalled seeing out back, a 21' sled with a tower, like a tuna tower. It was explained to me that it was used for photo missions. It may or may not be the same sled in the photos. I don't recall the engine make. And took very few photos of the tour. Bummer.

I've always thought that a 21 conversion to a low-pro would be a great knock around beach boat. The factory listed the raw weight at 1600lbs. The portion of the top cap I'd remove might be around 400lbs. Power with an overhauled 150 Merc straight six and you would still have a light enough boat for a beach trailer or hoist.

Place two custom hatches on the forward currently open storage bins. Replace the RPS with a small fiberglass dock box with removable cushion. The stern would take some creative thought as I think I'd want to retain the three hatched storage compartments.

It would be a wet ride though, might have to wear wetsuit booties.

Attention Tom Clark: In my notes on the model, I noted the following:

1 - there was a console production change between '77 - '79 from the flanged bottom to the teak over aluminum brace (due to cracking?). The newer console design had teak trim strips
surrounding a black applique on the dash. Also the inset lip for the windshield was eliminated.

2 - The solid teak plywood doors were replaced with slatted ones. Between '73 - '79.

3 - Teak storage hatches were replaced with fiberglass ones.

Any idea on when these changes occured?

posted 01-06-2009 10:42 AM ET (US)            

There have been four versions of the classic standard fiberglass center console over the years, the first was made from 1973 to 1977. This is the "winged" console you have on your Outrage 21. It attached to the floor via the integral flanges that are part of the consoles shell. Doors on the console are solid.

In 1977 (for the 1978 model year) a new, simplified, console design came out with a single flat face to it. It mounted to the floor by having screws driven through its lower sides into mahogany blocks under the console. There was a teak strip on the outside the mounting screws passed through first. The doors were changed to louvered and a flat black Mac-Tac applique was applied to the console face as a non-glare effort.

In 1982 yet another console design came out that featured a raised binnacle area for the motor control. The angle of the face was increased to near vertical. This console was the first to mount via aluminum angle which allowed numerous robust screw to be driven into the floor of the hull on the outside of the console. This was a HUGE improvement in the security of the console connection to the hull.

In 1986 the console mold was modified to allow the face of the console to be more angled so the instruments were more easily viewed. This console shape remained in production, unchanged through 2002.

I presume the hatches you refer to are the three in the stern of the 21s. I have never seen these hatches made of anything but teak.

posted 01-06-2009 02:08 PM ET (US)            

Thanks for the information. Regarding the hatches: I cannot remember where I saw them or on what year model. Will have to search my photo bin. I don't think I was hallucinating.

Drunk, possibly, but not hallucinating.

Honest....

posted 01-08-2009 10:43 AM ET (US)            

I found a photo on Craigslist that is like the boat in question. What model is this 22 footer?

posted 01-08-2009 04:31 PM ET (US)            

It rides alot like a Montauk if that answers the question. I never rode in a 19 Outrage hull of this vintage, but imagine that the ride is similar. They do pound the snot out of ya in rough water, so the name "The Pounder" pretty much sums up the experience.

I moved up from a Montauk, and don't mind the ride (too much). It can get old real fast on really rough days when you have to travel a good distance. I strongly recommend a leaning post & a good rubber anti-fatigue mat on the floor behind the console to help absorb the pounding on the knees.

It can also be a real wet ride on the rough days, so it is real nice to have a good canvas set on the boat. The factory forward shelter & windshield are a requirement IMHO.

It is an extremely stable boat. I do alot of diving off mine. I am a proud member of the 200+ pound club, and the boat barely tilts when I am standing on the outside lip. The stability is real nice when you have a bunch of big guys moving around in various stages of putting on/wearing dive gear or when fishing.

The boat can be kind of a pain in the arse getting in & out of the water, and has limited options for mounting a ladder due to the odd shape of the transom.

All that being said, I absolutely love the boat & wouldn't trade it for the world. Well, not entirely true, I would trade it for a much cleaner one.

The boat reminds me of a reproduction canal barge from the old Middlesex Canal that was on display near my office. I affectionately call my boat "The Scow" (see Wikipedia for definition) as it looks like a barge & is a little cosmetically challenged.

My nephew always tells me that "the boat is so fugly that it is cool". Again, that statement pretty much sums it up. This wierd looking boat always gets attention.

My hull is a 78. I have the later style console as outlined by Don & Tom. I have a fiberglass storage cover up front & teak for the three rear covers.