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Sailor Rob posted 03-16-2009 07:34 AM ET (US)
Actually, it's a love hate relationship. I hate to have more than 10% ethanol mixed into fuel for boaters because it will ruin the engine. I'll let the Wall St. Journal editor's explain: "Corn ethanol producers -- led by Wesley Clark, the retired general turned chairman of a new biofuels lobbying outfit called Growth Energy -- want the Obama Administration to make their guaranteed market even larger. Current regulations limit the ethanol content in each gallon of gas at 10%. The industry is asking that this cap be lifted to 15% or even 20%. Ethanol is one of the most shameless energy rackets going, in a field with no shortage of competitors."
Here in New Jersey, the issue of requiring salt water fishing licenses pales in comparison to the prospect of stalling your Whaler's engine on the way to the fishing grounds. Can Mercury engineer a fix for existing engines to withstand 15% (lobbyists want 20%) ethanol in the fuel?
jimh posted 03-16-2009 07:40 AM ET (US)
Contact your congressman, if you have one who can think independently, and let them know your feeling. Ethanol has to be a grass-roots opposition, as the bio-fuel lobby has too much money to be stopped any other way.
wezie posted 03-16-2009 08:33 AM ET (US)
Alcohol is just another huge subsidy. The producers can well afford to lobby, they get it all back +++. I seem to remember that Wesley Clark was/is sort of a dolt in the real world.
It Feels so good, is the problem with most of these things like alcohol.
It may until you get to the grocery and find all the produce prices are up because hugh companies put the land to alcohol production.
Contact legislators!
Feejer posted 03-16-2009 08:50 AM ET (US)
My wife is a Microbiologist for the USDA. I've been herein from her for many years what a huge scam ethanol is. Bottom line is its takes more energy to produce it than you get from it. The farms love it because of the subs
lakeman posted 03-16-2009 02:41 PM ET (US)
We were flying back from Omaha, several years ago and for some reason that got our attention, we are not shy, we got to talking to a couple, waiting on the same plane. Anyway he was an engineer in the ethanol production business, so I asked him what he really thought of the environmental and other issues associated with it and he just smiled and said nothing good about it, but added I make a lot of money working in it.
I think I will write my congressman and senator about it but need to do it correctly, but for a lay person in these matters it is hard to do.
fishgutz posted 03-16-2009 05:40 PM ET (US)
FYI: Emailed letters to politicians are rarely seen let alone read. A hand written letter will get their attention.

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Author	Topic: Ethanol--The Shameless Energy Racket
Sailor Rob	posted 03-16-2009 07:34 AM ET (US) Actually, it's a love hate relationship. I hate to have more than 10% ethanol mixed into fuel for boaters because it will ruin the engine. I'll let the Wall St. Journal editor's explain: "Corn ethanol producers -- led by Wesley Clark, the retired general turned chairman of a new biofuels lobbying outfit called Growth Energy -- want the Obama Administration to make their guaranteed market even larger. Current regulations limit the ethanol content in each gallon of gas at 10%. The industry is asking that this cap be lifted to 15% or even 20%. Ethanol is one of the most shameless energy rackets going, in a field with no shortage of competitors." Here in New Jersey, the issue of requiring salt water fishing licenses pales in comparison to the prospect of stalling your Whaler's engine on the way to the fishing grounds. Can Mercury engineer a fix for existing engines to withstand 15% (lobbyists want 20%) ethanol in the fuel?
jimh	posted 03-16-2009 07:40 AM ET (US) Contact your congressman, if you have one who can think independently, and let them know your feeling. Ethanol has to be a grass-roots opposition, as the bio-fuel lobby has too much money to be stopped any other way.
wezie	posted 03-16-2009 08:33 AM ET (US) Alcohol is just another huge subsidy. The producers can well afford to lobby, they get it all back +++. I seem to remember that Wesley Clark was/is sort of a dolt in the real world. It Feels so good, is the problem with most of these things like alcohol. It may until you get to the grocery and find all the produce prices are up because hugh companies put the land to alcohol production. Contact legislators!
Feejer	posted 03-16-2009 08:50 AM ET (US) My wife is a Microbiologist for the USDA. I've been herein from her for many years what a huge scam ethanol is. Bottom line is its takes more energy to produce it than you get from it. The farms love it because of the subs
lakeman	posted 03-16-2009 02:41 PM ET (US) We were flying back from Omaha, several years ago and for some reason that got our attention, we are not shy, we got to talking to a couple, waiting on the same plane. Anyway he was an engineer in the ethanol production business, so I asked him what he really thought of the environmental and other issues associated with it and he just smiled and said nothing good about it, but added I make a lot of money working in it. I think I will write my congressman and senator about it but need to do it correctly, but for a lay person in these matters it is hard to do.
fishgutz	posted 03-16-2009 05:40 PM ET (US) FYI: Emailed letters to politicians are rarely seen let alone read. A hand written letter will get their attention.