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whamblen posted 09-14-2009 08:01 PM ET (US)
[The Boston Whaler 40-th Anniversary edition 13-foot] boats came with a brass plaque mounted by the steering wheel. It had the Whaler logo, an anniversary hull number (distinct from the HIN), and probably some other verbiage. I'm looking for a picture of that plaque with enough detail so the plaque can be read (and maybe ultimately reproduced as an engraving). I already contacted Boston Whaler and United Trophy (they made the plates) but neither was able to come up with anything.
Can anyone help me out here? I just got one of these boats but the plaque is badly weathered and all the paint is gone from it. After some gentle cleaning I got it to the point where I can just make out the logo as a slightly less tarnished area, if the light is at the right angle, but I suspect that's as far as I will be able to get.
Thanks in advance,
- Bill
boxers posted 09-14-2009 08:35 PM ET (US)
#98 to the rescue. [Sent information via private email.] The plaque was originally covered with a thin plastic but faded very quickly even with the plastic in place. It is too bad the plaque was not engraved. Perhaps we could get United Trophy to do an engraved repop.
My Best,
Boxers
whamblen posted 09-14-2009 08:49 PM ET (US)
Thank you Boxers! I got the email and your photos are exactly what I wanted. [Great, but what is the point of having a public discussion if the essential information is not available to the readers and has been exchanged in private? --jimh] Now that I know where to look and how the letters are shaped maybe I can figure out what my number is. I'll risk a little more cleaning
If I get as far as having an engraved reproduction made, I'll be sure to let people know how I went about it.
- Bill
jimh posted 09-14-2009 08:59 PM ET (US)
The anniversary edition plate is shown in the REFERENCE section, although not particularly close up:
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/13/models.html#40th
How about posting the pictures being exchanged in private?
whamblen posted 09-14-2009 09:50 PM ET (US)
Boxer's picture is a good closeup. If it's okay with him I can upload it somewhere and post a link in this thread. The upper half of the plaque is the BW logo. The lower half has two lines of text. Line 1 is "40th Anniversary Limited Edition". Line 2 is "1998 13' Classic #XXX"
From what Chuck Bennett told me, Whaler doesn't have any record of which HIN went with which anniversary number. I have the feeling that they got a box of 250 plates, mounted them on consoles, and then the consoles were sort of randomly matched up with hulls.
So my immediate problem is trying to remove enough tarnish to read the number but not so much that I also remove the distinction between what used to be painted and what used to be bare brass. Soap and water didn't do much. A vinegar soak made the logo and a few letters identifiable if you catch the light right. I tried rubbing Brasso on one section and it obliterated everything. A vinegar and salt soak also seems to remove too much. I'm pretty sure I have a two digit number. If I had to guess I think either #76 or #78 but I wouldn't bet much on it.
whamblen posted 09-16-2009 09:14 AM ET (US)
Here is a link to a photo of the 40th Anniversary plaque on the 1998 13' Classic.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/3925301497_5c30d83d01_o.jpg
boxers posted 09-16-2009 09:25 PM ET (US)
jimh,
Please feel free to include any of my plaque photo(s) in your reference section. I wanted to provide the image as quickly..within minutes of reading whamblem's post. So the image was uploaded directly from my camera to his email address. The number plate #98 corresponds to the hull number BWCN36771798. The VIN in my case does end in 98 as does the corresponding plaque. So whamblem whats your Hull number? Perhaps there is a pattern here.
Boxers
jimh posted 09-16-2009 09:39 PM ET (US)
Here is a close-up view of the Boston Whaler 40th Anniversary Edition 13-foot boat console with custom plaque showing serial number (as owned by boxers):
whamblen posted 09-17-2009 08:03 AM ET (US)
Hi Boxers,
The 98 at the end of the HIN is the model year (1998) so mine ends with that too. The model year actually runs from July 97 to Jun 98 and going right to left the next two characters are the build date. I have an H7 which means the hull was built in August 97. You wrote one-seven, but it's probably eye-seven - so September 1997 for you.
Your serial number is N3677. N3 is a prefix for the 13' hull. Mine is the same. So the part unique to your boat is 677 vs the 641 on my boat. I didn't specifically ask Chuck about HINs but I imagine those are more carefully assigned in order of construction date and there really were 35 hulls built between our two.
No record was kept of which plaques went to which hulls. I assume the hulls and consoles were built at separate locations (no sawdust in the gelcoat please!) so there would have been ample opportunity to get them out of order even if the console craftsman bothered to affix plaques in order of console completion. If we somehow managed to compile a list of HINs and plaque numbers I bet we'd see a correlation but not a strict ordering.
- Bill
whamblen posted 09-17-2009 08:12 AM ET (US)
Oh, and after much analysis I've decided my plaque is #16. I got three people to independently (no prompting from me) say 16 though one guy wouldn't fully commit to the 6.
Determining that second digit was more a process of elimination than interpreting what could be read. None of them looked at it for more than a couple minutes so their opinions aren't tainted by over-analysis. Whereas mine most certainly is. :-)
The 1 was obviously a 1 once I saw a photo of the font used. There was clearly a tail coming off the top of the character so my gut reaction is 7 but the photo shows how the tail on the top of the 1 curves exactly like the fragment on my plate.
The second digit was much more problematical. The lower right of the character is the least obscured and is consistent with a 035689. The top/right stroke looks to be absent but there is also a scratch that partially obscures it. If it's really gone (and I'm pretty sure it is), then we only have 5 or 6 as possibilities. I liked 6 better because of the bottom left stroke. It should be open on a 5 and I think there is pretty good evidence of "something" there. Unfortunately there is a spot partially filling that area - this could easily fool the eye into thinking there is writing as well as a spot. But what we can see of the top left (very very little) does not seem to be vertical (parallel to the 1 which is right next to it) but instead is curving up and to the right, also like a 6 (in most fonts) and not like a 5.
I've ordered a new plaque from United Trophy and asked for it to be as identical as possible, except that it be a true engraving this time instead of painted. It was $10 and I'll post some pictures when it comes!
boxers posted 09-22-2009 05:08 PM ET (US)
Looking forward to hearing about your plaque [unclear]. If you can post a photo that would be great. Hopefully it will be very similar to the original. My Best--Boxers
whamblen posted 09-28-2009 10:25 AM ET (US)
I expect to get my replica plate early this week and I'll definitely post a pic when it arrives.
elaelap posted 09-28-2009 10:40 AM ET (US)
And my wife and kids accuse me of being a little too obsessive about Boston Whalers! Great thread; great website. Thanks again, jimh, for about the hundredth time.
Tony
whamblen posted 09-29-2009 11:04 PM ET (US)
My new 40th Anniversary plate came today! Here is a photo.

Replacement plaque for Boston Whaler 40th Anniversary Model
I ordered it from United Trophy in Orlando Florida. They did the originals. While they no longer had the paperwork from 1997 to 1998 they did still have the artwork. That, Boxer's photo for the text, and the specs for the plate (1.5"x3.5" gold brass with round corners) was all they needed. I ordered from Dave Thomas at 407-841-2525. The total cost (including shipping) was $13.
It's not an exact replica, partially by design as I asked for an engraving rather than printing. The plate is also slightly larger: maybe 1/16" longer, 1/32" wider, and with a smaller radius on the corners. If I were to order another I'd ask them not to drill screw holes - easier to match the old holes with both in hand.
I also just realized that the original had only first letters capitalized while this one is ALL CAPS. I'm not sure what to think about that. I didn't specify other than to say "make it like the original". Perhaps it was a limitation of the fonts available in the engraving process or maybe they just thought it looked better. Regardless, I think it looks terrific so I probably won't bother even asking about a correction.
Tohsgib posted 09-30-2009 10:07 AM ET (US)
I would not worry about...looks great especially for $13.
boxers posted 09-30-2009 07:39 PM ET (US)
Looks great. Thanks for posting the photo
mvamaunet posted 06-27-2015 01:24 PM ET (US)
[Revived after a six-year dormancy]
I ordered a replacement plague and a spare one for my hull. The new ones are engraved, and are much more quality than original. You will have to provide proof of ownership (such as a title) for the particular hull you want a plaque for.
Replacement plaques:
MAGIC BRUSH
386-736-1142
jimh posted 07-02-2015 12:48 AM ET (US)
Complete contact information for MAGIC BRUSH appears in our recommended vendors and sources listing. See
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/OEM.html#decals

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Author	Topic: 40th Anniversary 13
whamblen	posted 09-14-2009 08:01 PM ET (US) [The Boston Whaler 40-th Anniversary edition 13-foot] boats came with a brass plaque mounted by the steering wheel. It had the Whaler logo, an anniversary hull number (distinct from the HIN), and probably some other verbiage. I'm looking for a picture of that plaque with enough detail so the plaque can be read (and maybe ultimately reproduced as an engraving). I already contacted Boston Whaler and United Trophy (they made the plates) but neither was able to come up with anything. Can anyone help me out here? I just got one of these boats but the plaque is badly weathered and all the paint is gone from it. After some gentle cleaning I got it to the point where I can just make out the logo as a slightly less tarnished area, if the light is at the right angle, but I suspect that's as far as I will be able to get. Thanks in advance, - Bill
boxers	posted 09-14-2009 08:35 PM ET (US) #98 to the rescue. [Sent information via private email.] The plaque was originally covered with a thin plastic but faded very quickly even with the plastic in place. It is too bad the plaque was not engraved. Perhaps we could get United Trophy to do an engraved repop. My Best, Boxers
whamblen	posted 09-14-2009 08:49 PM ET (US) Thank you Boxers! I got the email and your photos are exactly what I wanted. [Great, but what is the point of having a public discussion if the essential information is not available to the readers and has been exchanged in private? --jimh] Now that I know where to look and how the letters are shaped maybe I can figure out what my number is. I'll risk a little more cleaning If I get as far as having an engraved reproduction made, I'll be sure to let people know how I went about it. - Bill
jimh	posted 09-14-2009 08:59 PM ET (US) The anniversary edition plate is shown in the REFERENCE section, although not particularly close up: http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/13/models.html#40th How about posting the pictures being exchanged in private?
whamblen	posted 09-14-2009 09:50 PM ET (US) Boxer's picture is a good closeup. If it's okay with him I can upload it somewhere and post a link in this thread. The upper half of the plaque is the BW logo. The lower half has two lines of text. Line 1 is "40th Anniversary Limited Edition". Line 2 is "1998 13' Classic #XXX" From what Chuck Bennett told me, Whaler doesn't have any record of which HIN went with which anniversary number. I have the feeling that they got a box of 250 plates, mounted them on consoles, and then the consoles were sort of randomly matched up with hulls. So my immediate problem is trying to remove enough tarnish to read the number but not so much that I also remove the distinction between what used to be painted and what used to be bare brass. Soap and water didn't do much. A vinegar soak made the logo and a few letters identifiable if you catch the light right. I tried rubbing Brasso on one section and it obliterated everything. A vinegar and salt soak also seems to remove too much. I'm pretty sure I have a two digit number. If I had to guess I think either #76 or #78 but I wouldn't bet much on it.
whamblen	posted 09-16-2009 09:14 AM ET (US) Here is a link to a photo of the 40th Anniversary plaque on the 1998 13' Classic. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2529/3925301497_5c30d83d01_o.jpg
boxers	posted 09-16-2009 09:25 PM ET (US) jimh, Please feel free to include any of my plaque photo(s) in your reference section. I wanted to provide the image as quickly..within minutes of reading whamblem's post. So the image was uploaded directly from my camera to his email address. The number plate #98 corresponds to the hull number BWCN36771798. The VIN in my case does end in 98 as does the corresponding plaque. So whamblem whats your Hull number? Perhaps there is a pattern here. Boxers
jimh	posted 09-16-2009 09:39 PM ET (US) Here is a close-up view of the Boston Whaler 40th Anniversary Edition 13-foot boat console with custom plaque showing serial number (as owned by boxers):
whamblen	posted 09-17-2009 08:03 AM ET (US) Hi Boxers, The 98 at the end of the HIN is the model year (1998) so mine ends with that too. The model year actually runs from July 97 to Jun 98 and going right to left the next two characters are the build date. I have an H7 which means the hull was built in August 97. You wrote one-seven, but it's probably eye-seven - so September 1997 for you. Your serial number is N3677. N3 is a prefix for the 13' hull. Mine is the same. So the part unique to your boat is 677 vs the 641 on my boat. I didn't specifically ask Chuck about HINs but I imagine those are more carefully assigned in order of construction date and there really were 35 hulls built between our two. No record was kept of which plaques went to which hulls. I assume the hulls and consoles were built at separate locations (no sawdust in the gelcoat please!) so there would have been ample opportunity to get them out of order even if the console craftsman bothered to affix plaques in order of console completion. If we somehow managed to compile a list of HINs and plaque numbers I bet we'd see a correlation but not a strict ordering. - Bill
whamblen	posted 09-17-2009 08:12 AM ET (US) Oh, and after much analysis I've decided my plaque is #16. I got three people to independently (no prompting from me) say 16 though one guy wouldn't fully commit to the 6. Determining that second digit was more a process of elimination than interpreting what could be read. None of them looked at it for more than a couple minutes so their opinions aren't tainted by over-analysis. Whereas mine most certainly is. :-) The 1 was obviously a 1 once I saw a photo of the font used. There was clearly a tail coming off the top of the character so my gut reaction is 7 but the photo shows how the tail on the top of the 1 curves exactly like the fragment on my plate. The second digit was much more problematical. The lower right of the character is the least obscured and is consistent with a 035689. The top/right stroke looks to be absent but there is also a scratch that partially obscures it. If it's really gone (and I'm pretty sure it is), then we only have 5 or 6 as possibilities. I liked 6 better because of the bottom left stroke. It should be open on a 5 and I think there is pretty good evidence of "something" there. Unfortunately there is a spot partially filling that area - this could easily fool the eye into thinking there is writing as well as a spot. But what we can see of the top left (very very little) does not seem to be vertical (parallel to the 1 which is right next to it) but instead is curving up and to the right, also like a 6 (in most fonts) and not like a 5. I've ordered a new plaque from United Trophy and asked for it to be as identical as possible, except that it be a true engraving this time instead of painted. It was $10 and I'll post some pictures when it comes!
boxers	posted 09-22-2009 05:08 PM ET (US) Looking forward to hearing about your plaque [unclear]. If you can post a photo that would be great. Hopefully it will be very similar to the original. My Best--Boxers
whamblen	posted 09-28-2009 10:25 AM ET (US) I expect to get my replica plate early this week and I'll definitely post a pic when it arrives.
elaelap	posted 09-28-2009 10:40 AM ET (US) And my wife and kids accuse me of being a little too obsessive about Boston Whalers! Great thread; great website. Thanks again, jimh, for about the hundredth time. Tony
whamblen	posted 09-29-2009 11:04 PM ET (US) My new 40th Anniversary plate came today! Here is a photo. Replacement plaque for Boston Whaler 40th Anniversary Model I ordered it from United Trophy in Orlando Florida. They did the originals. While they no longer had the paperwork from 1997 to 1998 they did still have the artwork. That, Boxer's photo for the text, and the specs for the plate (1.5"x3.5" gold brass with round corners) was all they needed. I ordered from Dave Thomas at 407-841-2525. The total cost (including shipping) was $13. It's not an exact replica, partially by design as I asked for an engraving rather than printing. The plate is also slightly larger: maybe 1/16" longer, 1/32" wider, and with a smaller radius on the corners. If I were to order another I'd ask them not to drill screw holes - easier to match the old holes with both in hand. I also just realized that the original had only first letters capitalized while this one is ALL CAPS. I'm not sure what to think about that. I didn't specify other than to say "make it like the original". Perhaps it was a limitation of the fonts available in the engraving process or maybe they just thought it looked better. Regardless, I think it looks terrific so I probably won't bother even asking about a correction.
Tohsgib	posted 09-30-2009 10:07 AM ET (US) I would not worry about...looks great especially for $13.
boxers	posted 09-30-2009 07:39 PM ET (US) Looks great. Thanks for posting the photo
mvamaunet	posted 06-27-2015 01:24 PM ET (US) [Revived after a six-year dormancy] I ordered a replacement plague and a spare one for my hull. The new ones are engraved, and are much more quality than original. You will have to provide proof of ownership (such as a title) for the particular hull you want a plaque for. Replacement plaques: MAGIC BRUSH 386-736-1142
jimh	posted 07-02-2015 12:48 AM ET (US) Complete contact information for MAGIC BRUSH appears in our recommended vendors and sources listing. See http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/OEM.html#decals