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cantcatchsquat posted 10-05-2009 03:53 PM ET (US)
what are the screws for on the inside sides of my boston whaler sport.
thanks pat
Buckda posted 10-05-2009 04:27 PM ET (US)
Ummm...
D.) Insufficient information given.
Buckda posted 10-05-2009 04:30 PM ET (US)
Pat -
Help us out a little. Whaler has been making "sport" model boats for decades.
1.) Which model do you have (13', 15', 17'?)
2.) What is the model year?
3.) WHERE, exactly, are these screws? (We need a bit more than "inside sides")
4.) Did you buy your boat NEW or did you buy it as a used model?
cantcatchsquat posted 10-05-2009 04:39 PM ET (US)
yes i know i didnt give a lot of information but its just three screws on both sides on the inside of the hull.il try to get pictures up tonight.
cantcatchsquat posted 10-05-2009 04:42 PM ET (US)
my model is a 1977 11,4
Buckda posted 10-05-2009 05:02 PM ET (US)
Okay Pat -
Did you buy the boat used? It is possible that a previous owner has modified the boat in some way.
Tom W Clark posted 10-05-2009 05:47 PM ET (US)
A little punctuation and capitalization can go a long way towards avoiding confusion.
I think what Pat is trying to communicate is he has a 1977 Sport 11, which happens to be 11'-4" LOA.
A 1977 Sport 11 would have left the factory with a lot more than just three screws in the inside of the hull's sides. These would have held the seat clamps in place and secured the side rails if so equipped.
cantcatchsquat posted 10-05-2009 06:03 PM ET (US)
yes the boat was used,the three screws are just screwed into the hull and not connected to anything.
cantcatchsquat posted 10-05-2009 06:25 PM ET (US)
[IMG]http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/untitledlihkui.jpg[/IMG]
please excuse my bad writing skills im trying to get better at it.This is a picture of one set of screws there are 8 screws in total.
cantcatchsquat posted 10-05-2009 06:32 PM ET (US)
<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/?action=view¤t=untitledlihkui.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/untitledlihkui.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
cantcatchsquat posted 10-05-2009 06:33 PM ET (US)
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/untitledlihkui.jpg
rslsail posted 10-05-2009 06:34 PM ET (US)
I am thinking there were mahogony side boards that were removed or the previous owner added something that was removed before you got the boat
cantcatchsquat posted 10-05-2009 06:54 PM ET (US)
My previous thought was that they where holding the hull together or something like that.Now that i know its nothing like that il install a few rod holders.
thanks a bunch pat
pglein posted 10-12-2009 03:37 PM ET (US)
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/untitledlihkui. jpg
pglein posted 10-12-2009 03:41 PM ET (US)
They definitely are not holding the hull together. The Whaler hull, while it may involve the use of some fasteners along the sheer line during assembly, does not rely on fasteners for structural integrity at all. The hull and deck pieces are fused together while the fiberglass is still wet and form a chemical bond, and then the void between the two is filled with foam, again, while the resin is still wet, which also fuses to the shell and the end product is one solid piece.
Nine out of ten I'd say those are the screws that once held in the seat clamps, but the seat and clamps have since been removed. A previous owner just tightened them in the rest of the way to cap off the holes. This is a risky move on his part, since there is a risk that the screws could puncture through the outer skin. I would assume that this not the case, however.
skred posted 10-12-2009 03:44 PM ET (US)
The screws were used to fasten the mahogany "risers to the inside of the hull. There is wood embedded in the hull behind them to afford a secure attachment. The "risers's" purpose was to secure the thwart seats so they did not move.
R T M posted 10-12-2009 11:06 PM ET (US)
Risers?,sideboards?. proper term is SEAT CLAMPS used by pglein.
rich/Binkie

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Author	Topic: 11-footer: Purpose of Interior Fasteners
cantcatchsquat	posted 10-05-2009 03:53 PM ET (US) what are the screws for on the inside sides of my boston whaler sport. thanks pat
Buckda	posted 10-05-2009 04:27 PM ET (US) Ummm... D.) Insufficient information given.
Buckda	posted 10-05-2009 04:30 PM ET (US) Pat - Help us out a little. Whaler has been making "sport" model boats for decades. 1.) Which model do you have (13', 15', 17'?) 2.) What is the model year? 3.) WHERE, exactly, are these screws? (We need a bit more than "inside sides") 4.) Did you buy your boat NEW or did you buy it as a used model?
cantcatchsquat	posted 10-05-2009 04:39 PM ET (US) yes i know i didnt give a lot of information but its just three screws on both sides on the inside of the hull.il try to get pictures up tonight.
cantcatchsquat	posted 10-05-2009 04:42 PM ET (US) my model is a 1977 11,4
Buckda	posted 10-05-2009 05:02 PM ET (US) Okay Pat - Did you buy the boat used? It is possible that a previous owner has modified the boat in some way.
Tom W Clark	posted 10-05-2009 05:47 PM ET (US) A little punctuation and capitalization can go a long way towards avoiding confusion. I think what Pat is trying to communicate is he has a 1977 Sport 11, which happens to be 11'-4" LOA. A 1977 Sport 11 would have left the factory with a lot more than just three screws in the inside of the hull's sides. These would have held the seat clamps in place and secured the side rails if so equipped.
cantcatchsquat	posted 10-05-2009 06:03 PM ET (US) yes the boat was used,the three screws are just screwed into the hull and not connected to anything.
cantcatchsquat	posted 10-05-2009 06:25 PM ET (US) [IMG]http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/untitledlihkui.jpg[/IMG] please excuse my bad writing skills im trying to get better at it.This is a picture of one set of screws there are 8 screws in total.
cantcatchsquat	posted 10-05-2009 06:32 PM ET (US) <a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/?action=view¤t=untitledlihkui.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/untitledlihkui.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
cantcatchsquat	posted 10-05-2009 06:33 PM ET (US) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/untitledlihkui.jpg
rslsail	posted 10-05-2009 06:34 PM ET (US) I am thinking there were mahogony side boards that were removed or the previous owner added something that was removed before you got the boat
cantcatchsquat	posted 10-05-2009 06:54 PM ET (US) My previous thought was that they where holding the hull together or something like that.Now that i know its nothing like that il install a few rod holders. thanks a bunch pat
pglein	posted 10-12-2009 03:37 PM ET (US) http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj237/pmanpatishere/untitledlihkui. jpg
pglein	posted 10-12-2009 03:41 PM ET (US) They definitely are not holding the hull together. The Whaler hull, while it may involve the use of some fasteners along the sheer line during assembly, does not rely on fasteners for structural integrity at all. The hull and deck pieces are fused together while the fiberglass is still wet and form a chemical bond, and then the void between the two is filled with foam, again, while the resin is still wet, which also fuses to the shell and the end product is one solid piece. Nine out of ten I'd say those are the screws that once held in the seat clamps, but the seat and clamps have since been removed. A previous owner just tightened them in the rest of the way to cap off the holes. This is a risky move on his part, since there is a risk that the screws could puncture through the outer skin. I would assume that this not the case, however.
skred	posted 10-12-2009 03:44 PM ET (US) The screws were used to fasten the mahogany "risers to the inside of the hull. There is wood embedded in the hull behind them to afford a secure attachment. The "risers's" purpose was to secure the thwart seats so they did not move.
R T M	posted 10-12-2009 11:06 PM ET (US) Risers?,sideboards?. proper term is SEAT CLAMPS used by pglein. rich/Binkie