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RevengeFamily posted 01-12-2010 07:22 AM ET (US)   Profile for RevengeFamily   Send Email to RevengeFamily  
I'm curious to find out who here actually went to a dealer and bought their Boston Whaler new? I know in my case there was no way for me to afford a brand new Whaler. I have always bought used. My finances always translated to many hours of work on said Whalers do to lack of maintenance by the previous owner.

If you would, please tell us what year and what model you purchased.

Stay warm,

Norm

mgeiger posted 01-12-2010 09:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for mgeiger    
Well, I was 14 when mine was built. I had to mow lawns for 6 weeks just to get enough cash for a used 10-speed that year. I was in-fact dreaming of a Whaler then, but it was a grand dream.
contender posted 01-12-2010 10:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
My father purchase a brand new 13 Boston Whaler in 1962 for me and my brothers. Boat, Motor, Trailer, and Bimini top for around $1000. We still have the boat and are still using it today.
deepwater posted 01-12-2010 10:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for deepwater  Send Email to deepwater     
In the fall of 1988 I bought a 1989 Montauk new in Delaware from Taylor Marine,,I just got the break-in hours on the motor when I had to winterize it and in the spring I was in Honduras for 6 mos ,,When I got back we were wet almost everyday untill 1994
clarky posted 01-12-2010 10:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for clarky  Send Email to clarky     
I purched my standard 17 from Morehead Marine new in 1996.
KillerWhaler62 posted 01-12-2010 11:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for KillerWhaler62  Send Email to KillerWhaler62     
We bought three Boston Whalers new.
The other 24 were used. They were all used for fishing, or chase boats, or tenders. If I remember the first, my dad purchased from Bill and Bob Healey before they bought Viking Yachts. They had just got the dealership at their marina on Rt 9 in New Gretna, NJ. I think it was 1960 or 1961. We had a 10hp brown Johnson Seahorse motor. What a blast! The next was a Sakonnet for fishing at Barnegat Light for stripers. The last new one was a Nauset used as a chase boat in sailing regattas. The other 24 were a wide veritity purchased used, all used by us, and not in the used boat business. That’s 50 years of Whalers.

Tom W Clark posted 01-12-2010 11:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
I bought my 1979 Striper 15 from Davidson's Marina in Kenmore, WA in 1978.

I bought my 1981 Montauk for Jacobsen's Boats & Motors here in Seattle in 1981.

In both cases I special ordered the boats for the factory because I wanted them configured just a little differently than the stock configuration.

BlueMax posted 01-12-2010 11:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for BlueMax  Send Email to BlueMax     
I bought my 2007 170 Montauk new in July 2007 from Marine Max in Wrightsville Beach, NC.

Maybe for for further interest in model year/regional cost comparisons:
New 2007 170 Montauk with standard Mercury 90 HP L4NA ELPT and standard Karavan trailer.
Fishing package to include cooler seat, rod holders and swim platform (as well as the mini storage box in console).
Bow Cushion
Bimini top
OEM Console Cover
6 year extended warranty on motor
Standard USCG pkg (6 orange vests and 4 flares in a nice storage bag) and an additional ski vest
1 year free Sea Tow Gold membership
1 first year routine seasonal servicing free (I opted to pay to winterize and have it readied for season 2 on the free ticket)

26k on the nose out the door to include tax, tags and associated other paperwork.

Max

Feejer posted 01-12-2010 12:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for Feejer  Send Email to Feejer     
Bought my 2007 Dauntless 180 new on March 2009 (leftover)
GreatBayNH posted 01-12-2010 12:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for GreatBayNH  Send Email to GreatBayNH     
Bought my 2006 Montauk 170 new in 2006 with Mercury 90HP EFI with Yamaha powerhead.

-Seth

WT posted 01-12-2010 01:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for WT  Send Email to WT     
Bought my 2004 170 Montauk, 90 hp 4 stroke in February 2004 from Boston Whaler dealer, The Outboard Motor Shop, Alameda, California.

Repowered with 2007 Mercury 90 FourStroke EFI February 2007.

Warren

David Pendleton posted 01-12-2010 01:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
I bought my 23 Conquest new in 1999.
celtjeff posted 01-12-2010 01:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for celtjeff  Send Email to celtjeff     
Purchased my 1989 13 foot Sport new in 1989
DavidM posted 01-12-2010 02:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for DavidM  Send Email to DavidM     
Of the 30 odd Whalers I've owned only one was new. 87 Montauk from Collins Marine, Smithfield, NC.
bill705 posted 01-12-2010 02:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for bill705  Send Email to bill705     
Bought a 1964 13' Sport new

Bought a 1968 16'7" Nauset new 9/68 and still have it, traded the 13' in on the Nauset.

Bill

dscew posted 01-12-2010 02:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for dscew    
I bought a 1998 17 Standard new leftover in 1999.
L H G posted 01-12-2010 02:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for L H G    
I have bought three Boston Whalers brand new, all special orders as I wanted them, and I still have two of them.

1971 16' Bare Hull, which I built out as a factory duplicate Nauset. I used my skill as an Architect to measure and draw full size template plans from a friend's 1970 Nauset, and then did my own woodwork. I also built the optional Forward deck in teak, rather than white painted pine. I powered it with a 1971 Merc 115, and two years later traded it in for an in-line 6 150HP Merc. The boat, "Fish Tales", is shown in the 16' Reference section, just before being sold, minus power, in 1988.

1986 Outrage 18, with twin 115 Mercs

1989 Outrage 25 Sea Drive Blank full transom, to which I installed twin Armstrong bracketed 200 Mercs.

All three boats were bought, without power, from OMC/Whaler dealerships, as Mercury/Whaler dealerships did not exist anywhere near where I was living during those purchases.
I did all the engine rigging work myself.
Once the Fisher/Dougherty designed boats were eliminated from the line, I had no further interest in buying a new Whaler.

SJUAE posted 01-12-2010 03:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE    
Bought my export 2006 Outrage 210 new (blank ransom)in 2008.
bluewaterpirate posted 01-12-2010 03:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for bluewaterpirate  Send Email to bluewaterpirate     
Bought two new:

2000 Dauntless 160

2002 Ventura 210

Liteamorn posted 01-12-2010 03:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for Liteamorn  Send Email to Liteamorn     
I bought my 2005 205 Eastport new in 2007 (leftover).
chuck130 posted 01-12-2010 04:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for chuck130  Send Email to chuck130     
2008 130 Sport
2009 230 Dauntless
gbcbu posted 01-12-2010 04:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for gbcbu  Send Email to gbcbu     
Bought my 2006 170 Montauk in March of '07 w/ a 90 HP EFI Mercury and trailer.
sapple posted 01-12-2010 05:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
I purchased my 2007 Montauk new in March of 2008 from the dealer in Richmond, VA.

It had:

Karavan trailer with swing tongue
Merc 90 fourstroke EFI L4NA
Aft seats
Bow Cushion
Bimini top
Cooler/seat
swim platform
rod holders
USCG package
anchor & line

I added (dealer installed)

Northstar chart plotter, fish/depth finder, VHF radio, spare wheel/tire for trailer.

The whole package including paperwork, tags, tax, etc. cost me about 27K

In 2006 I purchased new from the same dealer a 130 Sport which I traded in for the Montauk.

ScooterCO posted 01-12-2010 05:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for ScooterCO  Send Email to ScooterCO     
I don't know if this will qualify... Purchased a 1999 Montauk 17 from the dealer in 2009. Never been registered except under a dealer number with a 1999 trailer that has never been registered either. The 2002 Yamaha had 86 hours logged.

Really more like a dealer demo!

Condition?..... Perfect!!!

florida1098 posted 01-12-2010 06:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for florida1098    
Bought two new, a 15 ft sport 04 and 07 outrage 19 ft, traded both away and literally got between 1/4 and 1/3 towards trade in at same dealer. Would never buy another new one again
smalltauk posted 01-12-2010 06:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for smalltauk  Send Email to smalltauk     
I purchased my 2008 150 Montauk as a leftover new in February of 2009. Delivery date was April 25th, a beautiful 90 degree day here in the North East. What luck!
tonyj1 posted 01-12-2010 07:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for tonyj1  Send Email to tonyj1     
I bought 2008 210 Ventura and 2007 180 Dauntless new .
Tony
cmarques posted 01-12-2010 08:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for cmarques  Send Email to cmarques     
Purchased my 2002 Dauntless 160 new in Sept. 2002

Chris

frontier posted 01-12-2010 08:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for frontier  Send Email to frontier     
Only Whaler we ever bought new was a 1972 blue interior 13' Sourpuss.
Used a 9.8 HP tiller Merc for 2 years until we could afford a 40 HP Merc 402.
Great boat.
Had it for over 15 years. Always garaged and looked like new when we sold it.
DBOutrage17 posted 01-12-2010 08:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for DBOutrage17    

Outrage 17 II
Bought mine new in 1996, took that depreciation like a man.

Shortly thereafter, Brunswick snuffed out my dealer and gave it to some Sea-Ray dealership down the road.

WhalerAce posted 01-12-2010 08:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for WhalerAce  Send Email to WhalerAce     
I bought my 1989 Montauk new in 1989 from a Whaler dealer in Georgetown, SC. Although about a hundred miles up the road from Charleston, it was about $3000 cheaper than the local Whaler dealer.

BTW, just like DBOutrage17, the Georgetown dealer is no longer there, and our local BW Dealer got yanked when they only wanted to sell 25' and below, so now the SeaRay dealer also sells Whalers.

That was Whaler Number TWO. The rest have all been previously enjoyed rigs.

--- WhalerAce

rsantia posted 01-12-2010 10:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for rsantia    
I bought my 2001 Dauntless16 new in Aug 01 at Lauderdale Marina in Fl. Drove down from NY to pick it up. Visited 3 CT. dealers.All wanted around 27k and didn't want to get involved in modifying trailer to fit in my garage. I didn't get good vibes from dealers. While on vacation in Fl. I decided to stop in Lauderdale Marina . The salesman was very welcoming and said he could set me up with modified trailer for 23k. He even gave me choice between Mecury or Yamaha. I took the Yamaha F100,gave him the dimensions to my garage,and told him I'll be back in a week. The rest is history. Boat runs great 1000+hours and I trailer the boat once a year (Spring) to the Keys.

I'm happy

Alphonse posted 01-12-2010 10:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for Alphonse    
Bought mine Oct 31 - 2009 Montauk 170, fishing package, live well, swim platform, and stereo system.
So far so good, my fishing buddy and I really like it. The initial purchase price was just a start. I have spent a lot of money and time on elecrtonics, tolling motor, etc. I documented the addition of the trolling motor with photos and will post it all here some day soon. Also documented the addition of guide-ons for the trailer and will post that as well. I searched for info for both before doing it and had limited success so I want to help others who might need it in the future. Travelling too much at the moment to get to it!
Jerry Townsend posted 01-12-2010 11:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
I have bought two new Whalers - 1) a mid 70's 13 Super Sport with a 35 hp Johnson and 2) a '96 17 Outrage with a 115 Johnson. I traded the 13 to the dealer when I bought the Outrage - and have kicked myself several times since.

When I bought the Outrage, the dealer had advertised a 17 Montauk - but when I got there, the Outrage was sitting next to the Montauk - decision time. --- Jerry/Idaho

alfa posted 01-13-2010 07:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for alfa  Send Email to alfa     
Bought my Classic Outrage 22 from Escomer which was the French Dealer. It was a 1986 model. Serial A22002.
Still in great shape.
Robert V posted 01-13-2010 07:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for Robert V  Send Email to Robert V     
I bought my '07 Montauk 170 in August of '07 from Bobby's Marine in Burgess, VA. This was my first Boston Whaler, I had always wanted one.

I sold/traded the 170 in August '09 and bought my current boat, leftover '08 205 Conquest, from Taylor Marine in Delaware (same time in August '09).

Deepwater, thought it was interesting that we bought from the same dealer although a number of years passed from your time of purchase to mine.

Both dealers were excellent to deal with and I feel I got a good deal and great value from each.

Robert

RevengeFamily posted 01-13-2010 09:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for RevengeFamily  Send Email to RevengeFamily     
Thanks for all the feedback...

We're all aware that Brunswick/Boston Whaler continues to expand it's production line into the larger boat market. I live in New York, but I just don't see these larger Whalers on the water. So who's buying these larger hulls and where are they going? For instance, of all the responces above, unless I misread a post, LHG had the largest "new" purchase. It was a 1989 25 foot Boston Whaler Outrage.

My thought...

Part of Boston Whalers problem may be that their older boats were so well built, that Whaler ends up competing for sales against their own product. We here all love our Whalers for a multitude of reasons. But since Fishers' original hull design has been altered or eliminated, do first time boat buyers think of a Whaler as if it were any other hull on the water with a larger price tag?

Don't misunderstand me, if I had a choice to fish 90 miles off the beach in a 32 foot Whaler or on an equivalent sized Grady or Mako, I'd go with the Whaler, only because I know what's under the deck.

Are the majority of members on Continuos Wave mostly interested in "classic" whalers?

So how will Brunswicks', Boston Whaler division survive this economic slump? Will it be tougher for Whaler because they ARE competing against resale of there own product? Or is Whaler banking on the fact that their boats have a reputation for safety and longevity. Are others who are getting out from under lesser hulls from other manufactures going to buy a Whaler? Or is brand loyalty that strong? How can Whaler survive without expanding on their market share?

Thanks again,

Norm

lastcall18 posted 01-13-2010 10:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for lastcall18  Send Email to lastcall18     

I bought all three of mine new... started with the 17'.. went to the 19 outrage and then the 21 WA...

tombro posted 01-13-2010 11:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for tombro  Send Email to tombro     
I bought two new:

2003 150 Sport

2005 210 Ventura

erik selis posted 01-13-2010 06:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for erik selis  Send Email to erik selis     
I bought mine new in 2002.

170 Montauk 2003 model with 90-hp Mercury ELPTO

Erik

Moose posted 01-13-2010 06:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Moose  Send Email to Moose     
I bought my 2000 18' Outrage new in March of 2001.
Dick E posted 01-13-2010 10:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick E  Send Email to Dick E     
Bought my 1998 Montauk new in May of 1998
Joe 15 SS LTD posted 01-13-2010 11:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Joe 15 SS LTD  Send Email to Joe 15 SS LTD     
15' Super Sport Limited 1990 model year with 1989 70 HP Mercury , bought new in July of 1990.
Nushlie posted 01-14-2010 07:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Nushlie  Send Email to Nushlie     
Gentlemen & Ladies:

Bought a new 190 Outrage in 2009.

Nushlie

skred posted 01-14-2010 10:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for skred  Send Email to skred     
I bought my 1988 13 sport new at Twin Cities Marine, in Two Rivers, WI.

Bought my 1992 Montauk new at All America in Thiensville, WI.

After those - my first two Whalers - I have since bought 5 Whalers - all pre-owned.

Mumbo Jumbo posted 01-14-2010 11:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mumbo Jumbo  Send Email to Mumbo Jumbo     
In the summer of 1961, I bought a new 13' Whaler from a small dealer near Myrtle Beach, SC. Desperate to sell it, because as he put it, "I need to get rid of it cause it's weird looking and no one wants it," he almost gave it away. At the time, I was so poor that it took me six months to save enough money to buy a used Mercury (20hp, i think) to power it. I later bought a new Merc 9.8, and five years later re-powered the 13 with a 40hp. Johnson. It was my introduction to lifetime of safe and enjoyable boating.

The first of six Whalers I have owned, it probably was my favorite, and I sometimes reminisce of the days as a young man that I spent in the 13, often accompanied by my Labrador Retriever, exploring the rivers and marshes South Carolina's beautiful lowcountry coast.

dscew posted 01-14-2010 11:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for dscew    
Now that's a great story!
boatdryver posted 01-14-2010 11:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for boatdryver  Send Email to boatdryver     
bought new a leftover 2007 200 Dauntless/175 Verado in 2008 to replace a primo 1979 Montauk/Honda 90.

needed more space for family visits.
love that Verado. WOW!!

JimL

msc posted 01-14-2010 04:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for msc  Send Email to msc     
Bought an Outrage 18 new in 1988, a 23 Walkaround new in 1992, and an Outrage 28 new in 2001.
RevengeFamily posted 01-15-2010 07:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for RevengeFamily  Send Email to RevengeFamily     
Mumbo Jumbo,

Your story is a picture into the past...very interesting view of Whalers early days... I'm sure that dealer was not alone with his lack of vision for Dick Fishers relatively new design.

Any idea if that dealer is still in business? If so, what brand is he dealing?

Of the replys, the average lenght appears to be 17 feet.


I still can't figure out who's buying Whalers new larger hulls. (25' or larger)

Whalers building them but where are they going?

Thanks again,

Norm

GRAND NUSSIE posted 01-15-2010 09:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for GRAND NUSSIE  Send Email to GRAND NUSSIE     
Bought my Sakonnet "new" in '73. I still have it. It will probably outlast me. That was back in the "good 'ol days" when Whaler dealers new their stuff.

Dick

2manyboats posted 01-15-2010 09:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for 2manyboats  Send Email to 2manyboats     
Over the years I have owned 8 whalers(still own 4). I paid about $40,000 total for the 8. While they were all bought new, none were bought new by me and given that the 4 we still have were built in the 70's,I will have to wait another 30 to 40 years to buy a 2010 model.
ronwhaler posted 01-15-2010 05:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for ronwhaler  Send Email to ronwhaler     
I bought my 2009 170 Montauk new from Northland Boats, North Hero, VT. I ordered in in September of 2008 and picked it up spring 2009. The only options were the cooler seat and a Mills cover, it has the Mercury 90 HP L4NA ELPT and the standard galvanized Karavan trailer.
Jorgen posted 01-15-2010 06:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jorgen  Send Email to Jorgen     
I bought my 13 sport, 50th anniversery model new in 2008,
and I bought my 17 Montauk Half Hull new in January from Royboy.

:-O
:-)

Mumbo Jumbo posted 01-16-2010 02:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mumbo Jumbo  Send Email to Mumbo Jumbo     
@dscew– Thanks.

@RevengeFamily- He was a [i]very[/] small dealer who sold wooden and aluminum fishing boats who had given up the Whaler franchise. Now long gone.

Few customers in the Beaufort/Hilton Head, SC area are buying larger Whalers. Most hulls sold are 19' and under. The market for used boats is flooded with 24-28 foot hulls with twins engines.

Mumbo Jumbo posted 01-16-2010 02:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mumbo Jumbo  Send Email to Mumbo Jumbo     
Sorry, make that very
GAwhale posted 01-16-2010 05:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for GAwhale  Send Email to GAwhale     
I bought my 2001 Montauk nine years ago almost to the day at the Atlanta Boat Show. 2001 is the last year BW made the classic Montauk. In 2002 they went to the Montauk 170 (same length - much different hull).

My wife is from Charleston, SC and we priced one at "The Outboard Shop" (no longer in business) for around 25k (with a four stroke).

The boat show price (loaded with a two stroke) was 21.5k. The dealer was TAL Marine (Tim and Louise)(no longer in business) located by Lake Lanier.

My daughter is twelve now. Oh the good memories we already have on the Whaler.

Ferdinando posted 01-16-2010 05:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ferdinando  Send Email to Ferdinando     
Bought three new Whalers:

1985 15' Super Sport for $9600 sold in 1998 for $10,000.

1998 Montauk 17' for $18,500 sold in 2008 for $18,000.

2008 Montauk 190 for $38,000 still have the old girl!!!!

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