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Author | Topic: Destiny Fulfilled - Outrage 22 |
littleblue |
posted 03-26-2010 11:01 PM ET (US)
What a week it's been. The past few years the majority of my thoughts have been of acquiring a 22' Outrage or Guardian. This boat would have to be either new (if I won the lottery) or in excellent condition. This boat would have no bottom paint. This boat would be an 89-93 year model with full splash well. This boat would have no teak to maintain. Checking craigslist religiously for the past few years, I've seen some nice Outrages come and go. Most of the nice ones were expensive and far far away from me in the S.F. bay area. Rarely did I ever see the much coveated 89-93 models in good shape for sale at all. Tuesday morning of this week...I think it was Tuesday...fellow CW member "irishcreamer" emailed me a link to a fresh Craigslist ad. 1993 Boston Whaler Outrage 22, $13,500.00 Next thing you know, it's Friday and I have a new boat! Here are the details: 1993 Outrage 22' The boat is in GREAT shape. I would give it a 8 or 9 out of ten. A coat of wax and she'll look like she just came out of the showroom. Barely a spider or stress crack to be found. Needless to say, I am one happy Whaler man! Here are a few quick photos I snapped today. [IMG]http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2606/p1000266.jpg[/IMG]
2nd is about the engine. Boat hasn't been used since November. He said he started the boat a week ago for a min to make sure it ran. We started it, fired right up but lots of smoke. Normal for a cold 2-stroke. But smoke kept up and the engine died after a few min. Like it was being over choked or something. Cranked, it started and ran and died after a min. Rough idle, lots of smoke. He was genuinly surpsised and asked if I had time to go to the mechanic to check it out. I did so we went. Mechanic hooked it up, put her in neutral and added some throttle. Started engine, fired right up and seemed to clear out. Back off to idle and it ran fine, a lttle heavy on the smoke but not too bad. Mechanic claimed fouled plugs and maybe bad gas from sitting. Check compression which was excellent. Then he did a service, new plugs, new lower unit oil, new fuel water seperator. Said engine was fine. On the test run this morning the engine exhibited the same heavy smoke condition when first started at the dock but never died. Let it idle for a good 5-10 min, launched and slowly got her up to plane, no problems. After a 10 min or so of running we slowed down again to idle, much smoother and now normal smoke levels. Ran some more, idled for 5-10 min no problems at all. Hooked the boat back up to the trailer and went to owners house and flushed maybe an hour later, engine seemed fine. Any thoughts on this? I'm just assuming it was a bit of stale gas in the motor that had to be burned off. Is this a common thing with the 200 offshore EFI series motors? |
littleblue |
posted 03-26-2010 11:02 PM ET (US)
Ooops http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2606/p1000266.jpg |
Jeff |
posted 03-26-2010 11:18 PM ET (US)
Jasper, What an outstanding boat at an outstanding price. A clear example of what can be had these days in this market. The stickers will come off with ease. Use a hair dryer over the vinyl as you peel it off. It will take a couple good compoundings with a wheel and waxing before the shadowing is mostly gone from the letters. As for the motor, the heavy smoke has been present in every Merc we have ever owned. Our 1999 150 XR6's smoke a lot compared to my old OMCs. I am going to switch to running Evinrude XD50 this year which should cut down greatly on the smoke. It did on my other Mercs. The stalling is likely old bad gas, or an obstructed fuel line. I would start by getting the tank pumped if you have a lot of fuel in there. Ad a full tank of clean new fuel and put new spark plugs in. Personally I have always run NGK surface gap plugs in our Mercs. |
littleblue |
posted 03-27-2010 12:50 AM ET (US)
Thanks Jeff. I'm glad to be part of the club. Just realized, we never had that discussion on 22's. Guess it doesn't matter at this point. Oh, forgot to mention. The previous owner bought the motors used as a pair. The other motor had some kind of failure though I don't know what. Anything I should have plucked off the other engine? Computer and fuel pump I would asssume are valuable. Any common failure points? |
Ridge Runner |
posted 03-27-2010 05:29 AM ET (US)
Phenomenal boat and a fantastic price. Nice to see your waiting and diligence paid off. Put a little away for an E-Tec 200 each month and it will be perfect! |
Peter |
posted 03-27-2010 07:01 AM ET (US)
Congratulations on the new boat. It doesn't sound like there is anything wrong with the outboard. The Mercury V6 2-stroke EFIs have a reputation of being "bug foggers" at low engine speeds. A fellow across from my slip had twin 150 EFIs on his boat and when the wind was right, you could smell his boat coming in long before he got to the slip. |
rjgorion |
posted 03-27-2010 08:05 AM ET (US)
What a find Jasper. She's a beauty. Ron |
themclos |
posted 03-27-2010 08:46 AM ET (US)
Jasper, Beautiful boat at a fair price. I am most impressed with your ability to wait for the right boat to come along. Congrats. Dan |
Kencvit |
posted 03-27-2010 08:48 AM ET (US)
very nice |
elaelap |
posted 03-27-2010 08:49 AM ET (US)
Can't wait to see her in person (maybe sooner than later, what with our April salmon season). How about bringing her to the NorCal rendezvous, l.b.? Lovely boat...congrats! Tony |
alfred |
posted 03-27-2010 09:17 AM ET (US)
She is a beauty! Congrats! |
Tom W Clark |
posted 03-27-2010 09:50 AM ET (US)
$13,500? I resume that's a typo. As Jeff said, the decals will peel right off with a hair dryer or heat gun set to a lower temperature. The trouble is that there *will* be a color difference and probably the gel coat will be raised as well if the boat was ever stored outside, though judging by the cleanliness of the boat, I wonder if it was garage kept. To even have a chance of getting the shadows to go away, you need to wet sand them with hard block to level the gel coat before buffing the topsides out. Even if you are not 100 percent successful eliminating the decal shadows, the boat will be vastly improved. When I bought my last Montauk, the very first thing I did when I got it home was walk into my shop, get my heat gun and peel the WHALER decals off the sides. It took about 20 minutes and the boat appreciated about $1000 in that period of time. |
Bella con23 |
posted 03-27-2010 10:25 AM ET (US)
Good shopper! Best of luck. |
95Outrage17 |
posted 03-27-2010 10:37 AM ET (US)
Wow! That is one really nice Outrage 22'. Enjoy! - Chris |
DeeVee |
posted 03-27-2010 12:22 PM ET (US)
You did well in your quest. You will really enjoy that boat. When we bought our boat it had a name in very large letters, in the same location as the WHALER logo on your boat. The first winter I had it in the shop I wet sanded and polished the finish. Of course, the first thing that had to happen was remove the name. The lettering came off easily with an inexpensive heat gun. The rest was the wet sanding. One might think that you wet sand the area under the lettering more than the surrounding area, to blend the two shades. Actually, the lettering protects the gelcoat under it from the sun, so it is darker than the surrounding material. If the boat has been polished regularly over the years, you may be able to feel that the material under the lettering stands "proud" of the surrounding material. As Tom indicates, this area would require the block sanding. The combination of the material under the lettering being darker, and the fact that the material under the lettering may be slightly higher, is what makes the lettering area visible after the removal of the logo. Just after the refinishing I performed on the gelcoat, one could just barely discern that lettering had been on the boat. After one season of use, no lettering shadow was visible. Doug Vazquez |
DeeVee |
posted 03-27-2010 12:26 PM ET (US)
Jasper, Can you post some picture links to how the pot puller is mounted in your boat. A friend of mine and I just bought a puller, probably the same brand as the one that came on your boat. I have a plan on how I want to mount it in my Outrage 22, but would like to see how yours is mounted. Thank you, Doug Vazquez |
WT |
posted 03-27-2010 05:07 PM ET (US)
A very nice acquisition. |
RJG |
posted 03-27-2010 08:04 PM ET (US)
Beautiful. Now I really want a 22 Outrage. |
MattInSanDiego |
posted 03-27-2010 10:27 PM ET (US)
Fantastic boat - great price - congrats. |
littleblue |
posted 03-28-2010 02:09 AM ET (US)
Thanks all. Tom, that was not a typo, $13,500.00. Needless to say I didn't bother negotiating with the guy! Tony, I do plan to make the Rendezvous and the 22 should be there with me. I think I will fish the Salmon opener in Montery off of my friends Montauk. The boat also came w/ Penn electric downriggers...gotta see if the things work. They are freggin heavy! Wish they were Scottys.
Hopefully I'll get around to posting more pictures soon. |
dropanchor |
posted 03-28-2010 06:49 AM ET (US)
A diamond in the rough at a great price! Nothing beats a clean OEM boat. Great story, nicely done! Why do you want to take the "WHALER" letters off? They appear to be in great shape and are period-correct for this vintage. Your concerns are accurate...there will always be a shadow once you remove the letters. You can hit the hull with a DA sander, compound, glaze, and wax all you want....if the boat is in the right light it will only amplify the color differance and will always bother you. Leave it alone....at the end of the day, the gelcoat has seen the elements for 17 years. Congrats! Enjoy the new rig! |
Buckda |
posted 03-28-2010 09:07 AM ET (US)
Jasper. Awesome. Congratulations! GREAT find/buy. |
Buoy |
posted 03-28-2010 09:35 AM ET (US)
I too would love to see some pictures of how the pot puller is mounted as I intend to mount one on my 22 as well. If anyone has pics, please post! :-) Thanks! |
JMARTIN |
posted 03-29-2010 12:38 PM ET (US)
Probably will not help, but here is the pot puller on my boat. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCN0002-3.jpg It's on a Scotty swivel base and uses the Scotty power plug in. John |
littleblue |
posted 03-29-2010 07:08 PM ET (US)
Sorry, been busy swapping electronics. Hopefully I'll have pics tonight. |
littleblue |
posted 03-30-2010 02:37 AM ET (US)
This is the best I can do for you right now as it has started to rain... If you look on the side of the gunnel by the forward rod rack you'll see the mount. There is another mount on the floor directly below that the puller slides down into and then locks in place with pins. Under the gunnel is a quick disconnect for the foot operated switch. I spend the weekend swapping out electronics from my 18' Outrage "Salmon Sucker" to the new 22'. Not yet named, but so far friends have suggested the S.S. II Here is a ridiculous driveway shot. I'm sure my neighbors love me...but you gotta do what you gotta do right? What I've noticed thus far. The 22 looks humongous on the trailer. Everybody that has seen the boat has said "Oh my god, this thing is huge!" at least 2-3 times if not more. Looking down at my trusty 18 from atop the 22, it looks really small. I remember looking at my Montauk from my 18 feeling the same way. Lastly, once the 22 is actually in the water, it doesn't really look that big anymore. Go figure. |
Bigeye |
posted 03-30-2010 05:51 PM ET (US)
Congrats Jasper. Talk to you soon. Jad |
PeteB88 |
posted 03-30-2010 09:44 PM ET (US)
You nailed it - - you'll love it. Awesome |
erik selis |
posted 03-31-2010 02:20 AM ET (US)
Great boat, perfect for your location. Congrats and good luck with her! Erik |
DeeVee |
posted 03-31-2010 09:38 PM ET (US)
Jasper, Thanks for post back on the pot puller. Doug |
Bulldog |
posted 04-01-2010 08:54 PM ET (US)
Littleblue, NICE RIDE! When it come sto siz eteh saying is "Boats are like cotton shirts they both shrink in water".....jack |
Bulldog |
posted 04-01-2010 08:57 PM ET (US)
LONG DAY! When it comes to size the saying is "boats are like cotton shirts, they both shrink in water"...Jack |
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