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CJ posted 03-31-2010 06:49 AM ET (US)   Profile for CJ   Send Email to CJ  
I have searched for pictures and comments [about the Boston Whaler 25 REVENGE CUDDY]. In most posts the large cockpit area is stated a plus. I want to make a trailerable dive boat for occasional trips to the Keys and the Gulf; the space in the cockpit to gear-up is awesome. The cuddy for storage is a plus as well.

With the helm as far forward as it is, how well does [the Boston Whaler 25 REVENGE CUDDY] ride? Also, [the Boston Whaler 25 REVENGE CUDDY] wet? With that little windshield I can see eating salt to be anoying all the way in or out, and I hate isenglass, especially the amount it would take to fill in that space between the the windshield and a bimini or hard top.

[Tell me your] experience running this model. I have run a Guardian 25 and a Frontier 25. Does [the Boston Whaler 25 REVENGE CUDDY] have any suprises in store for me?

dfmcintyre posted 03-31-2010 12:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
The perceived ride at the helm is slightly more harsh. That's natural, as the steering station is about five feet forward of the helm on an Outrage. In the stern, no difference in ride.

It's not wetter then the Outrage. Not as much room at the helm for additional instrumentation, i.e. gps, radar, etc.

We had a Nauset, Montauk and 22' Outrage in the order, prior to the Revenge. For me, one thing that took a little while to adjust to was the placement of the helm, off centerline. Got used to it, had the boat for nine seasons.

I think for the maximum deck space, look for a i/o version, remove the sterndrive package and replace it with a bracket mounted outboard. Either convert the engine housing area to more storage (easy to get to with the tilting engine cover) or just wall it off for a smaller storage area, but more deck space.

For Keys and Gulf, I think that a bimini would crucial to get out of the sun. We had a decent custom made forward shelter, and a few years later had an additional camper canvas fabricated. I didn't like the Mills version for the Revenge. It looked like a canvas box with windows. The forward shelter was a four bow frame and didn't go real high, about five, five and a half foot. I had to duck (I'm 6'3"... to make it that height would have looked bad, IMO) under it. It snapped to the top of the windscreen frame (the Mills shelter snapped across the deck, in front of the windshield). There was isenglass panels that ran up from the windshield frame to the first bow.

Looking back at photos (let me know if you want to see them, and I'll send a link) I should have gone up about another 6".

Regards - Don

andygere posted 04-01-2010 10:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Don, I'd love to see the photos of your canvas set up.
CJ posted 04-02-2010 12:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for CJ  Send Email to CJ     
Thanks. I know it is the same hull with pretty much the same characteristice but was just wondering about the weight in different places and I don't notice spray in the Frontier because with a windshield wiper it doesn't really matter!

2 more questions. Is the helm on a Revenge Cuddy tall enough to comfortably drive standing up? Has anyone seen one with a hard top? Pics? That would answer the shelter and electronics space question. I am just concerned that it will be so tall it will look a little out of place.

Thanks again for the help. I have never seen one of these in person.

CJ posted 04-02-2010 12:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for CJ  Send Email to CJ     
Don, yes could you please send me the photos of the boat with the canvas package you were talking about.


dfmcintyre posted 04-03-2010 05:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Andy / CJ -

Here's three links to images in my PhotoBucket account: white%20water/?action=view¤t=31200002.jpg white%20water/?action=view¤t=31200002cropped.jpg white%20water/?action=view¤t=31200001.jpg

CJ - Regarding helm height. I'm 6'3" and didn't have a problem running either at idle or at speed. If you search the photo section, there's a few shots of that Revenge at speed.

Regarding hardtop. I think that it would be a significant undertaking and being that the helm is quite a bit forward, would look awkward. Trailering and storing a rig that high could become an issue.

A chartplotter/GPS could either be mounted on the open deck area across from the helm. That's where I mounted a paper chart plotting sonar, right in front of the navigator seat. A few years later we dumped the paper plotter and installed a CRT based sonar in the door below the helm. Changed the hinges to the bottom so the door, with the sonar mounted to it, would tilt out.

Regards - Don

OddManOut posted 05-11-2010 09:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for OddManOut  Send Email to OddManOut     
My Boston Whaler 25 Revenge Cuddy recently received new canvas by The Ship's Tailor located in Deltaville, VA. Big thanks goes to Don for sharing photo's of his previous canvas set-up while also allowing me to consult with him on design options, set-up, etc. The new canvas allows for greater shade and protection from the elements for my family. The set-up is a three bow stainless steel frame forward connected to a two bow stainless steel frame aft. The eisenglass consists of two panels in the front with U zipper insets for ventilation connected to the bottom of the windshield. Both sides port and starboard consist of one panel each. The design also allows for additional add-ons as the budget permits. My 6'3" frame is easily accomodated as I stand at the helm. The attached link to photo's were taken during 35mph winds on a recent rendezvous down the Waccamaw River to Georgetown, SC. The canvas was weather tested during rain and 5 foot seas. We took several waves over the bow of the boat and managed to stay completely dry. I am extremely pleased with the ride, storage, and large cockpit space that the Boston Whaler 25 Revenge Cuddy offers. I also operate with the added plus of 9x24 Bennett trim tabs. Thanks again Don for all your help. 25%20%20Boston%20Whaler%20Revenge%20Cuddy%20New%20Canvas/
themclos posted 05-11-2010 10:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for themclos  Send Email to themclos     

That is one nice looking Whaler, and the canvas looks as good as anything Mills put out.


dfmcintyre posted 05-12-2010 03:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     

It's interesting (I wonder if it's a regional thing...) that in my setup, the side curtains are outside the framework, and on your setup, it's reversed.

Did you also order screening?

Regards - Don

andygere posted 05-13-2010 11:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Great looking Revenge Cuddy, and very nice work on the canvas. That boat will make a very comfortable camp-cruiser in all kinds of weather. I'm still trying to figure out how to adapt a canvas system to my Outrage Cuddy that will work with the existing T-top.
sapple posted 05-13-2010 01:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
CJ, FYI, you can find many more pictures of Oddmanout's boat toward the bottom of this thread. They are posted by Sapple.
sapple posted 05-13-2010 01:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for sapple  Send Email to sapple     
Forgot to include the link.

OddManOut posted 05-14-2010 10:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for OddManOut  Send Email to OddManOut     
Don, No Screens or aft curtains at this point. They can be added at a later date if the need necessitates and the budget allows. In regards to the framing, I have seen the side curtains integrated both inside/outside the framing to accommodate design. In my application, our goal was to give the front a more streamlined, slender profile following the lines of the boat while also sweeping the windshield as much as possible. The front framing is actually more narrow than the aft. We also wanted to avoid the "Boxy" look as much as possible given the needed height. I also wanted to maintain the ability to fold the front framing forward.

Andy, Attached is a link that may give you some design ideas for canvas applications integrated with t-tops. This is not the canvas shop I utilized, but they have an extensive photo gallery on previous applications.

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