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intransit posted 09-24-2010 10:26 PM ET (US)
[Seeks advice about buying a] 2002 [Boston Whaler] 160 [DAUNTLESS] for [$]7,000 with less than 20 [hours] on [90-HP Mercury that is] very clean [and has been] dealer maintained. [S]hould [I] go for it? [Added a postscript in which he tried to say there was no trailer included.]
dburton posted 09-24-2010 11:36 PM ET (US)
The moderator has made your post difficult to interrupt but if you can buy a 2002 Dauntless 160 with less than 20 hours for $7,000 without a trailer then go for it. It is a great buy. But be aware that the Dauntless 160 is a bit underpowered with 90 hp motor. If you are a fisherman that just wants a great boat then this is it. If you want a boat to do water sports with the kids then this is it probably a good deal, but it won't be ideal.
10000 Lakes posted 09-25-2010 12:47 AM ET (US)
The moderator is an idiot who thinks this is a newspapr.
burning_hXc_soul posted 09-25-2010 01:33 AM ET (US)
[newspaper] sorry I couldn't resist...
Joe 15 SS LTD posted 09-25-2010 08:29 AM ET (US)
This is the Moderators site and is free if you do not like his style do not come here and then complain.
Joe
Marlin posted 09-25-2010 08:42 AM ET (US)
If the boat is really in nice shape, this is a great deal. As dburton said, this boat likes a 115 better, but will do okay with a 90. Various members report a top speed of 38-39 mph.
I have a 2003 160 with a 115. It would kill me to sell it for anywhere near that amount.
-Bob
jimh posted 09-25-2010 10:52 AM ET (US)
The moderator--me--appreciates the simple rules of capitalization that are taught in the primary grades:
--capitalize the first letter of the first word of a sentence;
--capitalize the personal pronoun, I;
--capitalize proper nouns.
Instruction in proper capitalization begins in the first grade. By the third grade most students have mastered it. When articles are submitted which would have received a failing grade in composition in the third grade, my experience has shown that these authors seldom develop into interesting participants or have much to contribute.
Use of abbreviations is another topic. It seems absolutely inane to use an abbreviation for the word "hours" when the the abbreviation is "hrs." Why type "hrs." in place of "hours" to save a single character?
Values for currency in U.S. dollars are typically indicated by the "$" character, and a comma is used to separate the digits into groups of three. Curiously, often the commas are omitted but a decimal point is used and values for cents are included in prices that are many thousands of dollars. Resolution of a price to the one-hundredth of a dollar for prices in the range to $5,000 to $50,000 seems unnecessarily precise. A fluctuation of one cent in a $5,000 price amounts to a change of one part in one-half million. I hardly suspect that anyone considering purchasing a used Boston Whaler boat is going to hinge his decision on a price change of one cent.
Simple sentences are preferred to unusual constructs. If a boat is offered for sale without a trailer, there is a simple way to convey that notion--"A trailer is not included."
If these notions of communication in form and thinking are troublesome for you, you should consider finding somewhere else to read and write about your boating. I have no intention of lowering my standards for acceptable writing to below the third grade level.
jimh posted 09-25-2010 10:58 AM ET (US)
Several respondents have introduced into this discussion a complete distraction from its original topic. Instead of providing advice on the topic--buying a boat--they have changed the focus of discussion to the website itself and to its practice of using certain minimal styles in writing. It is therefore ironic that the complainers complain about the distraction of the editorial corrections. Their complaints introduce far more distraction into the discussion than the corrections they are complaining about. I find this sort of distraction much more annoying than the corrections made to the article to bring it into compliance with third-grade composition standards. I encourage a return to the topic of boating in this discussion. Readers who have opinions they want to convey to the moderator should contact me via email.
jimh posted 09-25-2010 12:25 PM ET (US)
A selling price of only $7,000 for a 2002 Boston Whaler DAUNTLESS 16 with 90-HP motor in good condition seems below what I would have expected to pay for such a boat.
davej14 posted 09-25-2010 12:30 PM ET (US)
Not just below the expected price but I think he left off the leading "1". It is probably $17,000.
intransit,
If you really have this boat in your radar for $7,000. and you decide not to buy it, please send me an e.mail offline with the details. I would like to buy it myself.

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Author	Topic: Buying a Boat
intransit	posted 09-24-2010 10:26 PM ET (US) [Seeks advice about buying a] 2002 [Boston Whaler] 160 [DAUNTLESS] for [$]7,000 with less than 20 [hours] on [90-HP Mercury that is] very clean [and has been] dealer maintained. [S]hould [I] go for it? [Added a postscript in which he tried to say there was no trailer included.]
dburton	posted 09-24-2010 11:36 PM ET (US) The moderator has made your post difficult to interrupt but if you can buy a 2002 Dauntless 160 with less than 20 hours for $7,000 without a trailer then go for it. It is a great buy. But be aware that the Dauntless 160 is a bit underpowered with 90 hp motor. If you are a fisherman that just wants a great boat then this is it. If you want a boat to do water sports with the kids then this is it probably a good deal, but it won't be ideal.
10000 Lakes	posted 09-25-2010 12:47 AM ET (US) The moderator is an idiot who thinks this is a newspapr.
burning_hXc_soul	posted 09-25-2010 01:33 AM ET (US) [newspaper] sorry I couldn't resist...
Joe 15 SS LTD	posted 09-25-2010 08:29 AM ET (US) This is the Moderators site and is free if you do not like his style do not come here and then complain. Joe
Marlin	posted 09-25-2010 08:42 AM ET (US) If the boat is really in nice shape, this is a great deal. As dburton said, this boat likes a 115 better, but will do okay with a 90. Various members report a top speed of 38-39 mph. I have a 2003 160 with a 115. It would kill me to sell it for anywhere near that amount. -Bob
jimh	posted 09-25-2010 10:52 AM ET (US) The moderator--me--appreciates the simple rules of capitalization that are taught in the primary grades: --capitalize the first letter of the first word of a sentence; --capitalize the personal pronoun, I; --capitalize proper nouns. Instruction in proper capitalization begins in the first grade. By the third grade most students have mastered it. When articles are submitted which would have received a failing grade in composition in the third grade, my experience has shown that these authors seldom develop into interesting participants or have much to contribute. Use of abbreviations is another topic. It seems absolutely inane to use an abbreviation for the word "hours" when the the abbreviation is "hrs." Why type "hrs." in place of "hours" to save a single character? Values for currency in U.S. dollars are typically indicated by the "$" character, and a comma is used to separate the digits into groups of three. Curiously, often the commas are omitted but a decimal point is used and values for cents are included in prices that are many thousands of dollars. Resolution of a price to the one-hundredth of a dollar for prices in the range to $5,000 to $50,000 seems unnecessarily precise. A fluctuation of one cent in a $5,000 price amounts to a change of one part in one-half million. I hardly suspect that anyone considering purchasing a used Boston Whaler boat is going to hinge his decision on a price change of one cent. Simple sentences are preferred to unusual constructs. If a boat is offered for sale without a trailer, there is a simple way to convey that notion--"A trailer is not included." If these notions of communication in form and thinking are troublesome for you, you should consider finding somewhere else to read and write about your boating. I have no intention of lowering my standards for acceptable writing to below the third grade level.
jimh	posted 09-25-2010 10:58 AM ET (US) Several respondents have introduced into this discussion a complete distraction from its original topic. Instead of providing advice on the topic--buying a boat--they have changed the focus of discussion to the website itself and to its practice of using certain minimal styles in writing. It is therefore ironic that the complainers complain about the distraction of the editorial corrections. Their complaints introduce far more distraction into the discussion than the corrections they are complaining about. I find this sort of distraction much more annoying than the corrections made to the article to bring it into compliance with third-grade composition standards. I encourage a return to the topic of boating in this discussion. Readers who have opinions they want to convey to the moderator should contact me via email.
jimh	posted 09-25-2010 12:25 PM ET (US) A selling price of only $7,000 for a 2002 Boston Whaler DAUNTLESS 16 with 90-HP motor in good condition seems below what I would have expected to pay for such a boat.
davej14	posted 09-25-2010 12:30 PM ET (US) Not just below the expected price but I think he left off the leading "1". It is probably $17,000. intransit, If you really have this boat in your radar for $7,000. and you decide not to buy it, please send me an e.mail offline with the details. I would like to buy it myself.