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JMARTIN posted 10-27-2010 07:20 PM ET (US)
I have never seen [a Boston Whaler boat] quite like [the one shown in the linked image below].
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF8584.jpg
John
Tom W Clark posted 10-27-2010 07:22 PM ET (US)
John -- Surely you jest. That is a Newport.
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/models.html#newport
JMARTIN posted 10-27-2010 07:35 PM ET (US)
Well, what is a Newtauk? I think of this as a Newport.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF8581.jpg
John
Peter posted 10-27-2010 07:49 PM ET (US)
That is also a Newport. A "Newtauk" is essentially a Montauk layout (a taller Montauk console, positioned in the center with the RPS also in the center and a Newport inner hull liner.
Jeff posted 10-27-2010 09:26 PM ET (US)
John,
The only real difference between the first image and your second one is that the forward windshield has been removed. After seeing that, I think I am sold on removing mine.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jrohlfing/1976NewportOn709
http://picasaweb.google.com/jrohlfing/GrandHaven#
Tom W Clark posted 10-27-2010 10:09 PM ET (US)
A "Newtauk" is merely a Newport with the console of a Montauk. The RPS is centered on both models.
jamesmylesmcp posted 10-28-2010 07:33 AM ET (US)
John , where were these pics taken ? Sure looks like Capt's Cove , Bridgeport,Ct.
JMARTIN posted 10-28-2010 11:23 AM ET (US)
I think it was around Clinton. John
Tohsgib posted 10-28-2010 11:36 AM ET (US)
The front windshield is the bomb, especially if sitting in those front seats. I have owned both and the Newtauk is the best 17' Whaler EVER made. Storage, easy to get in and out, etc.
sdwhaler17 posted 10-28-2010 12:19 PM ET (US)
Its the only 17 whaler I've ever owned and i would never take the front windshield out of my newtauk, i love it.
dfmcintyre posted 10-28-2010 12:25 PM ET (US)
Jeff -
If you ever considered a custom forward shelter, I'd design it so that the bottom of the shelter connected to the top of the windshield. It would let a tremendous amount of light into the shelter.
D
Tohsgib posted 10-28-2010 12:29 PM ET (US)
Lastly if you remove the windshield it will leave all that hardware there. If you remove that you will have to fill in a bunch of holes. If you do remove it, there will be a bunch lined up to buy it. Hard to ship though.
Jeff posted 10-28-2010 02:01 PM ET (US)
Don,
I still have the Original Toast Duck Cloth Mills forward shelter and Bimini top for the boat. I also have a windshield in the Pacific Blue sunbrella. The original Duck Cloth is pretty darn good condition but, being cotton it is getting fragile. I have never cared for the Mills design for the forward shelter on the Newport anyway so, if I do end up doing new canvas I am going to do a custom forward anyway.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/ 76%20Newport%20Near%20Complete/45c72ae5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/ 76%20Newport%20Near%20Complete/46d8bb8b.jpg
Nick,
I really want to remove the forward windshield for two reason. The first is simple Aesthetics. I think it looks better sans the forward windshield (but I flip flop all the time). The second is this is an original OEM taylor made (and embossed) windshield. As you know you could never replace it. So I want to get it off and out of the sun and way from swinging anchors and people's feet. I am considering taking the Console windshield off for safe keeping as well as it is also the OEM taylor made (and embossed) windshield. UDP Plastics now makes both the Forward and Console windshields for the Newport for a fair price. A member on WC bought a set and they looked very nice for remakes.
http://www.updplastics.com/boston%20whaler%20boat%20windshields.htm
None the less. If I go without the windshield you can simply and cleanly fill the holes with stainless machine screws backed with nuts.
dneal33 posted 10-28-2010 03:22 PM ET (US)
My 1976 Newport looks very much like that, but came from the factory with a 94 quart cooler seat instead of the RPS.
Instead of paying for another front windshield I removed the last one that cracked. It fits the style of boating that I do better as I stand up in that area a lot while fishing and throwing a bait net.
Also removed and sold the rear deck,and seats in front of the console. Still have the front seat that bolts thru the front locker with all the hardware that I will sell someday. It's about 40 pounds I don't need up front.
Jeff posted 10-28-2010 03:28 PM ET (US)
dneal33,
Mine is a 1976 as well. I think we need to talk. Do you have any images of your boat as is and how it was?
dfmcintyre posted 10-28-2010 08:30 PM ET (US)
Jeff -
Ah...Mills did utilize the front windscreen like I had imagined.
D
sdwhaler17 posted 10-29-2010 02:45 AM ET (US)
I have often wondered about how and when my Newport became a Newtauk? I know people wanted the combination of the gunwales with the center console but was it done at the dealer or the factory in 1988? What are the earliest Newtauk models? (I suspect early 80's). I suspect mine was converted later at the dealer, as I recently noticed a trace outline of where a battery might have sat in the stern at one time. Since i have owned the boat the there has always been twin batteries in the console.
Tohsgib posted 10-29-2010 11:07 AM ET (US)
Stern batteries were very common. You would more likely notice where the Newport console mounted to the side gunwale. Most were done at the factory but Whaler can not tell you if yours was being it is only recognized as a Newport(look at title). They made roughly 3 dozen at the factory and Jax, FL dealer was the main orderer and where mine came from. If you want to know more about your hull send the stencil # to Chuck Bennet @ Whaler.
Newtauk1 posted 10-29-2010 11:44 AM ET (US)
My 1988 was dealer converted by Hansce Smythe in NJ. The story I was told had to do with a strong demand for center consoles and Newports were converted. It is a great set up. I have looked in to a bow dodger, but not from Mills. I do not like the design.
Tohsgib posted 10-29-2010 01:16 PM ET (US)
I did not know Wally or Harry had the skills to convert a Newtauk ;) Again Chuck said the majority of factory made Newtauks were from Jax, Fl. God knows how many conversions were done, especially on a rich island like LBI that Hance & Smythe cater to. Then again I never saw one on Barnegat bay but never really knew what one was until I got mine.
sdwhaler17 posted 10-29-2010 04:59 PM ET (US)
Great suggestion on emailing Chuck Bennett, he already replied and matched my stencil number to the HID. My Newport was shipped from Rockland MA to Schock Boats in Newport Beach CA in February 1988.

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Author	Topic: NEWPORT v. Newtauk
JMARTIN	posted 10-27-2010 07:20 PM ET (US) I have never seen [a Boston Whaler boat] quite like [the one shown in the linked image below]. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF8584.jpg John
Tom W Clark	posted 10-27-2010 07:22 PM ET (US) John -- Surely you jest. That is a Newport. http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/16-17/models.html#newport
JMARTIN	posted 10-27-2010 07:35 PM ET (US) Well, what is a Newtauk? I think of this as a Newport. http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d137/jmartin-/DSCF8581.jpg John
Peter	posted 10-27-2010 07:49 PM ET (US) That is also a Newport. A "Newtauk" is essentially a Montauk layout (a taller Montauk console, positioned in the center with the RPS also in the center and a Newport inner hull liner.
Jeff	posted 10-27-2010 09:26 PM ET (US) John, The only real difference between the first image and your second one is that the forward windshield has been removed. After seeing that, I think I am sold on removing mine. http://picasaweb.google.com/jrohlfing/1976NewportOn709 http://picasaweb.google.com/jrohlfing/GrandHaven#
Tom W Clark	posted 10-27-2010 10:09 PM ET (US) A "Newtauk" is merely a Newport with the console of a Montauk. The RPS is centered on both models.
jamesmylesmcp	posted 10-28-2010 07:33 AM ET (US) John , where were these pics taken ? Sure looks like Capt's Cove , Bridgeport,Ct.
JMARTIN	posted 10-28-2010 11:23 AM ET (US) I think it was around Clinton. John
Tohsgib	posted 10-28-2010 11:36 AM ET (US) The front windshield is the bomb, especially if sitting in those front seats. I have owned both and the Newtauk is the best 17' Whaler EVER made. Storage, easy to get in and out, etc.
sdwhaler17	posted 10-28-2010 12:19 PM ET (US) Its the only 17 whaler I've ever owned and i would never take the front windshield out of my newtauk, i love it.
dfmcintyre	posted 10-28-2010 12:25 PM ET (US) Jeff - If you ever considered a custom forward shelter, I'd design it so that the bottom of the shelter connected to the top of the windshield. It would let a tremendous amount of light into the shelter. D
Tohsgib	posted 10-28-2010 12:29 PM ET (US) Lastly if you remove the windshield it will leave all that hardware there. If you remove that you will have to fill in a bunch of holes. If you do remove it, there will be a bunch lined up to buy it. Hard to ship though.
Jeff	posted 10-28-2010 02:01 PM ET (US) Don, I still have the Original Toast Duck Cloth Mills forward shelter and Bimini top for the boat. I also have a windshield in the Pacific Blue sunbrella. The original Duck Cloth is pretty darn good condition but, being cotton it is getting fragile. I have never cared for the Mills design for the forward shelter on the Newport anyway so, if I do end up doing new canvas I am going to do a custom forward anyway. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/ 76%20Newport%20Near%20Complete/45c72ae5.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/ 76%20Newport%20Near%20Complete/46d8bb8b.jpg Nick, I really want to remove the forward windshield for two reason. The first is simple Aesthetics. I think it looks better sans the forward windshield (but I flip flop all the time). The second is this is an original OEM taylor made (and embossed) windshield. As you know you could never replace it. So I want to get it off and out of the sun and way from swinging anchors and people's feet. I am considering taking the Console windshield off for safe keeping as well as it is also the OEM taylor made (and embossed) windshield. UDP Plastics now makes both the Forward and Console windshields for the Newport for a fair price. A member on WC bought a set and they looked very nice for remakes. http://www.updplastics.com/boston%20whaler%20boat%20windshields.htm None the less. If I go without the windshield you can simply and cleanly fill the holes with stainless machine screws backed with nuts.
dneal33	posted 10-28-2010 03:22 PM ET (US) My 1976 Newport looks very much like that, but came from the factory with a 94 quart cooler seat instead of the RPS. Instead of paying for another front windshield I removed the last one that cracked. It fits the style of boating that I do better as I stand up in that area a lot while fishing and throwing a bait net. Also removed and sold the rear deck,and seats in front of the console. Still have the front seat that bolts thru the front locker with all the hardware that I will sell someday. It's about 40 pounds I don't need up front.
Jeff	posted 10-28-2010 03:28 PM ET (US) dneal33, Mine is a 1976 as well. I think we need to talk. Do you have any images of your boat as is and how it was?
dfmcintyre	posted 10-28-2010 08:30 PM ET (US) Jeff - Ah...Mills did utilize the front windscreen like I had imagined. D
sdwhaler17	posted 10-29-2010 02:45 AM ET (US) I have often wondered about how and when my Newport became a Newtauk? I know people wanted the combination of the gunwales with the center console but was it done at the dealer or the factory in 1988? What are the earliest Newtauk models? (I suspect early 80's). I suspect mine was converted later at the dealer, as I recently noticed a trace outline of where a battery might have sat in the stern at one time. Since i have owned the boat the there has always been twin batteries in the console.
Tohsgib	posted 10-29-2010 11:07 AM ET (US) Stern batteries were very common. You would more likely notice where the Newport console mounted to the side gunwale. Most were done at the factory but Whaler can not tell you if yours was being it is only recognized as a Newport(look at title). They made roughly 3 dozen at the factory and Jax, FL dealer was the main orderer and where mine came from. If you want to know more about your hull send the stencil # to Chuck Bennet @ Whaler.
Newtauk1	posted 10-29-2010 11:44 AM ET (US) My 1988 was dealer converted by Hansce Smythe in NJ. The story I was told had to do with a strong demand for center consoles and Newports were converted. It is a great set up. I have looked in to a bow dodger, but not from Mills. I do not like the design.
Tohsgib	posted 10-29-2010 01:16 PM ET (US) I did not know Wally or Harry had the skills to convert a Newtauk ;) Again Chuck said the majority of factory made Newtauks were from Jax, Fl. God knows how many conversions were done, especially on a rich island like LBI that Hance & Smythe cater to. Then again I never saw one on Barnegat bay but never really knew what one was until I got mine.
sdwhaler17	posted 10-29-2010 04:59 PM ET (US) Great suggestion on emailing Chuck Bennett, he already replied and matched my stencil number to the HID. My Newport was shipped from Rockland MA to Schock Boats in Newport Beach CA in February 1988.