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coolarrow posted 07-08-2011 09:57 AM ET (US)   Profile for coolarrow   Send Email to coolarrow  
I just got a whaler with about a quarter tank of ten yr old gas in its 77 gal tank. It has twin motors with fuel filter/water separator for both motors. What is the best way to get that old gas out with some piece of mind that I got it all. I am hoping to avoid removing the tank and boiling it out.
kmev posted 07-08-2011 10:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for kmev  Send Email to kmev     
When I replaced the tank in my 21 Outrage I siphoned from the fill tube. I expected there to be a gallon or so left in the tank, but I was almost completely dry when I pulled it.

If you're worried about getting every last drop you could put the siphon hose through the pick-up tube and jack up the front of the trailer. That's about the best you could do. Not sure what kind of varnish/residue will be left on the tank walls, however.

JMARTIN posted 07-08-2011 12:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for JMARTIN  Send Email to JMARTIN     
It sounds like you have an older Outrage or Revenge style tank set up. The pick up hose would be best. When you got it as empty as possible, I would put in a couple gallons of fresh gas with ethanol in it, slosh it around, pump/siphon it out, fill the tank with clear gasoline and Seafoam or some other quality fuel treatment and pump put another gallon to clear your feed line and filter.

Have a couple of spare hydrosorb filters and a means to install them. How old is this tank? The hoses might be shot.

John

jimh posted 07-08-2011 04:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
You don't have "old gas"--you have extremely old gas. Ten-year-old gasoline would be quite suspect in my opinion.

I'd just remove as much of the gasoline from the fuel system as I could using the existing hoses to extract it from the tank. You should be able to remove all but a tiny fraction of the tank's capacity. Then fill the tank with fresh gasoline. Any old gasoline will be only in a weak concentration in the new fuel.

kwik_wurk posted 07-08-2011 04:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for kwik_wurk  Send Email to kwik_wurk     
I would pull a few fuel samples into a glass jar as well. We all know the gas is dead, but you also want to check for scale, and debris. You could have a quarter tank of gas and water.

Has the boat not been used in 10 years, or just the tank?

Since you have separators/filters I would plan on have spare filters ready to go the first time you get some serious sloshing in the tank.

crabby posted 07-09-2011 12:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for crabby  Send Email to crabby     
On my 22 Outrage I can access the pickup tube plate thru the floor. With some ingenuity I was able to make a tool to allow me to remove the screws that held it down. I then used a siphon and pump to remove ALL of the old fuel and gunk that was sitting below the level of the pickup tubes.

I replaced the gasket with a fresh one from Florida Marine Tanks. I also used bolts with socket caps (for use with a hex key (Allen wrench) to make any future removal a little easier.

coolarrow posted 07-10-2011 06:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for coolarrow  Send Email to coolarrow     
Thanks for the input everybody. The boat has been in storage for ten years, so this will be fun.

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