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Gerry123 posted 07-15-2011 11:24 AM ET (US)
I [may buy] a Super Sport 15 for cruising on Barnegat Bay, New Jersey. [What is] your view of the safety and practicality of a [Boston Whaler SUPER SPORT 15]? Will I be bounced around by the wave action? Will [a SUPER SPORT 15] be a safe and dry ride for most conditions on Barnegat Bay? I will be coming out of the north part of the bay around Point Pleasant and Bay Head. A couple years ago I had a Sea Ray 24-foot cuddy cabin and had no problems. I would appreciate your opinions. Thanks,
Gerry
themclos posted 07-15-2011 11:52 AM ET (US)
I think the 15 Super Sport is a great boat for the bay, and on those good days, you will be able to head out front.
Sure the bay gets choppy, but the 15 foot hul has a nice ride in the chop.
You will likely get wet on those windy, choppy days, but that is part of the fun of these small boats, or so my kids tell me.
How many people do expect to be carrying most of the time, and how will it be used? For casual cruising, and occassional fishing?
Dan
Tohsgib posted 07-15-2011 12:51 PM ET (US)
15 is fine, Montauk would be better for a few quid more as you can stand up on those NE windy days. Growing up on LBI it is more likely to be snotty then calm.
Sixer posted 07-15-2011 01:56 PM ET (US)
I own a Montauk, a 2007, and use it primarily in the bay from the Manasquan and tha canal down to the rt 72 bridge. I've owned a 15 for a year or 2, but went for the Montauk. For me it is the perfect boat for that body of water. Get caught when the wind turns to the south/southeast and you'll understand.
If you'll be primarily north of the Mantoloking bridge, the 15 should provide good service to you.
Navesinkwhaler posted 07-15-2011 05:27 PM ET (US)
Gerry, I just happen to have a great looking 2001 Montauk for sale just up the road from you in Monmouth County if the 15' doesn't work out for you. Take a look in the "marketplace" under "2001 montauk" Willing to deal.
Thanks, Chris
Sal A posted 07-16-2011 06:09 AM ET (US)
I boat on Barnegat Bay. In think the minimum you would want for cruising is a 17 Montauk. On calmer days the Montauk is great for the bay. However, nearly every afternoon the boat traffic combined with a stiff southwest wind make the bay pretty darn choppy and rough.
Get a Montauk or larger if your situation permits it.
jimh posted 07-16-2011 07:32 AM ET (US)
There will be a tremendous difference in the comfort of the ride in any sort of seas with a Boston Whaler SUPER SPORT 15 compared to a 24-foot cuddy-cabin boat. The Boston Whaler SUPER SPORT 15 is a great boat, but it is a 15-footer. It has very low freeboard. You will ride up and over every wave.
Tohsgib posted 07-16-2011 09:29 AM ET (US)
Or get run over by some Gavone from Seaside in his SeaRay wearing the Mr. T starter kit and a bimbo on his lap.
burning_hXc_soul posted 07-16-2011 12:49 PM ET (US)
Tohsgib, don't forget the armada of people in little tin jon boats with 8 people packed in, rented by all of the places by the Coast Guard station, that think drift fishing right in the channel is the best place they can be...
Sixer posted 07-17-2011 08:19 PM ET (US)
There was an interesting discussion regarding the issues of those fishing in the 2 channels on a Barnegat fishing forum.
Gerry123 posted 07-18-2011 09:15 AM ET (US)
Thanks for your comments - very helpful.
Looks like the 15 is too small.
Gerry
tombro posted 07-18-2011 11:08 AM ET (US)
I have been running a 210 Ventura the past seven summers out of Lanoka Harbor and have been comfortable and dry behind canvas. Expect to get bounced around out there and wet in a 15 foot Whaler. I know from experience, as my former boat was a 150 Sport. Safe, but bumpy and wet when the south winds and wakes from high traffic build on summer weekend afternoons.
burning_hXc_soul posted 07-18-2011 11:13 AM ET (US)
And if you have a 17' and you feel up to it, you can go out the inlet for when the blues are running.
Gerry123 posted 09-12-2011 08:38 AM ET (US)
Gents,
Just another question:
If the 17 Montauk will work south of the Mantaloking Bridge, can I assume a 180 Ventura also will be safe and dry?
thanks again
Gerry
tombro posted 09-13-2011 08:59 AM ET (US)
I think the 18' Ventura will be fine there. Nice deep boats.
Sixer posted 09-19-2011 09:46 AM ET (US)
Gerry, I am about to list my 2007 170 Montauk; new boat ordered. If interested, send me a PM.
Tohsgib posted 09-19-2011 12:36 PM ET (US)
Sal should be selling a Whaler soon. :)
Gerry123 posted 09-19-2011 04:09 PM ET (US)
Another query:
What is the objective view of a 2007 Mercury 175XL Optimax motor with 60 hours on it?
All maintenance completed by BW dealer.
Please comment on noise levels at low speed, reliability, long term issues.
The CW historical posts on these motors appears to negative, right?
thanks
Gerry
alchse posted 09-16-2014 10:16 PM ET (US)
I looking to get a first boat to use in Barnegat Bay.
I have 3 and 5 year old kids and will use this predominantly for short cruising, tubing, water skiing in a year or two.
I will be within shouting distance of the boat ramp and mooring spot 80% of the time. So if it gets nasty I will be able to get in quick.
My train of thought is that smaller is better to make it easier to put in and take out of the water, which I will probably be doing fairly often. Also will make it easier to fit in to the garage for winter.
So I think I would like to go with a 13 or 15 footer.
So for that situation would you prefer center or side console?
13 and 15 sports are a plenty and there are some great looking boats out there. I have also seen a few 15' montauks and one 13' dauntless that looks appealing...which way would you go?

deepwater posted 09-17-2014 02:44 AM ET (US)
So many boats on the market are up to the task,,What do you bring to the boat
alchse posted 09-17-2014 07:42 AM ET (US)
I was planning on bringing cash, uless you think a check is better :)
jcdawg83 posted 09-17-2014 08:36 AM ET (US)
Honestly, I'd look at a 17 foot boat. A 15 looks plenty big on a trailer but when it's in the water with kids, coolers, life vests, tubes, etc. it can get very small in a hurry. A 17 is as easy to handle as a 15 and is a much bigger boat in practice.
EJO posted 09-17-2014 09:54 AM ET (US)
But remember when people say just "Montauk" they mean an older style 17' BW. Montauks now come in 4 different sizes with the 15' being the smallest with 2' increase each model. The newer Montauk series are much heavier boats. Like the newer Montauk 150 (15') weighs the same as the old "Montauk" (17') and therefore rides similar in a chop. You always have more room in a larger boat. The newer Montauk 170 would be more family friendly than a 13' or 15' Sport. Also the CC will give you more room than a Sport model.
Most boaters want a bigger boat and with it a bigger tow vehicle. I went smaller for ease of storage and handling, trailering, etc.
Love how my 15' handles in snotty weather or not. Yes you will have spray blown in by wind so don't wear your tuxedo.
alchse posted 09-17-2014 10:39 AM ET (US)
With my budget I am definitely looking at the "classic" models
Thanks for the input guys. We have a pretty convenient set up where local the tubing / skiing area is right in front of our house and there is a little public dock at the end of the street that I can use for picking up and dropping off gear and people so I don't think I will need to pack the boat with much more than the bare minimum required.
More insights into to side vs center console are appreciated.
My next question is on power. What is the ideal power on a 13' and a 15' for this activity? Would I be better suited with a two stroke or a four stroke?

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Author	Topic: Boat for Barnegat Bay, New Jersey
Gerry123	posted 07-15-2011 11:24 AM ET (US) I [may buy] a Super Sport 15 for cruising on Barnegat Bay, New Jersey. [What is] your view of the safety and practicality of a [Boston Whaler SUPER SPORT 15]? Will I be bounced around by the wave action? Will [a SUPER SPORT 15] be a safe and dry ride for most conditions on Barnegat Bay? I will be coming out of the north part of the bay around Point Pleasant and Bay Head. A couple years ago I had a Sea Ray 24-foot cuddy cabin and had no problems. I would appreciate your opinions. Thanks, Gerry
themclos	posted 07-15-2011 11:52 AM ET (US) I think the 15 Super Sport is a great boat for the bay, and on those good days, you will be able to head out front. Sure the bay gets choppy, but the 15 foot hul has a nice ride in the chop. You will likely get wet on those windy, choppy days, but that is part of the fun of these small boats, or so my kids tell me. How many people do expect to be carrying most of the time, and how will it be used? For casual cruising, and occassional fishing? Dan
Tohsgib	posted 07-15-2011 12:51 PM ET (US) 15 is fine, Montauk would be better for a few quid more as you can stand up on those NE windy days. Growing up on LBI it is more likely to be snotty then calm.
Sixer	posted 07-15-2011 01:56 PM ET (US) I own a Montauk, a 2007, and use it primarily in the bay from the Manasquan and tha canal down to the rt 72 bridge. I've owned a 15 for a year or 2, but went for the Montauk. For me it is the perfect boat for that body of water. Get caught when the wind turns to the south/southeast and you'll understand. If you'll be primarily north of the Mantoloking bridge, the 15 should provide good service to you.
Navesinkwhaler	posted 07-15-2011 05:27 PM ET (US) Gerry, I just happen to have a great looking 2001 Montauk for sale just up the road from you in Monmouth County if the 15' doesn't work out for you. Take a look in the "marketplace" under "2001 montauk" Willing to deal. Thanks, Chris
Sal A	posted 07-16-2011 06:09 AM ET (US) I boat on Barnegat Bay. In think the minimum you would want for cruising is a 17 Montauk. On calmer days the Montauk is great for the bay. However, nearly every afternoon the boat traffic combined with a stiff southwest wind make the bay pretty darn choppy and rough. Get a Montauk or larger if your situation permits it.
jimh	posted 07-16-2011 07:32 AM ET (US) There will be a tremendous difference in the comfort of the ride in any sort of seas with a Boston Whaler SUPER SPORT 15 compared to a 24-foot cuddy-cabin boat. The Boston Whaler SUPER SPORT 15 is a great boat, but it is a 15-footer. It has very low freeboard. You will ride up and over every wave.
Tohsgib	posted 07-16-2011 09:29 AM ET (US) Or get run over by some Gavone from Seaside in his SeaRay wearing the Mr. T starter kit and a bimbo on his lap.
burning_hXc_soul	posted 07-16-2011 12:49 PM ET (US) Tohsgib, don't forget the armada of people in little tin jon boats with 8 people packed in, rented by all of the places by the Coast Guard station, that think drift fishing right in the channel is the best place they can be...
Sixer	posted 07-17-2011 08:19 PM ET (US) There was an interesting discussion regarding the issues of those fishing in the 2 channels on a Barnegat fishing forum.
Gerry123	posted 07-18-2011 09:15 AM ET (US) Thanks for your comments - very helpful. Looks like the 15 is too small. Gerry
tombro	posted 07-18-2011 11:08 AM ET (US) I have been running a 210 Ventura the past seven summers out of Lanoka Harbor and have been comfortable and dry behind canvas. Expect to get bounced around out there and wet in a 15 foot Whaler. I know from experience, as my former boat was a 150 Sport. Safe, but bumpy and wet when the south winds and wakes from high traffic build on summer weekend afternoons.
burning_hXc_soul	posted 07-18-2011 11:13 AM ET (US) And if you have a 17' and you feel up to it, you can go out the inlet for when the blues are running.
Gerry123	posted 09-12-2011 08:38 AM ET (US) Gents, Just another question: If the 17 Montauk will work south of the Mantaloking Bridge, can I assume a 180 Ventura also will be safe and dry? thanks again Gerry
tombro	posted 09-13-2011 08:59 AM ET (US) I think the 18' Ventura will be fine there. Nice deep boats.
Sixer	posted 09-19-2011 09:46 AM ET (US) Gerry, I am about to list my 2007 170 Montauk; new boat ordered. If interested, send me a PM.
Tohsgib	posted 09-19-2011 12:36 PM ET (US) Sal should be selling a Whaler soon. :)
Gerry123	posted 09-19-2011 04:09 PM ET (US) Another query: What is the objective view of a 2007 Mercury 175XL Optimax motor with 60 hours on it? All maintenance completed by BW dealer. Please comment on noise levels at low speed, reliability, long term issues. The CW historical posts on these motors appears to negative, right? thanks Gerry
alchse	posted 09-16-2014 10:16 PM ET (US) I looking to get a first boat to use in Barnegat Bay. I have 3 and 5 year old kids and will use this predominantly for short cruising, tubing, water skiing in a year or two. I will be within shouting distance of the boat ramp and mooring spot 80% of the time. So if it gets nasty I will be able to get in quick. My train of thought is that smaller is better to make it easier to put in and take out of the water, which I will probably be doing fairly often. Also will make it easier to fit in to the garage for winter. So I think I would like to go with a 13 or 15 footer. So for that situation would you prefer center or side console? 13 and 15 sports are a plenty and there are some great looking boats out there. I have also seen a few 15' montauks and one 13' dauntless that looks appealing...which way would you go?
deepwater	posted 09-17-2014 02:44 AM ET (US) So many boats on the market are up to the task,,What do you bring to the boat
alchse	posted 09-17-2014 07:42 AM ET (US) I was planning on bringing cash, uless you think a check is better :)
jcdawg83	posted 09-17-2014 08:36 AM ET (US) Honestly, I'd look at a 17 foot boat. A 15 looks plenty big on a trailer but when it's in the water with kids, coolers, life vests, tubes, etc. it can get very small in a hurry. A 17 is as easy to handle as a 15 and is a much bigger boat in practice.
EJO	posted 09-17-2014 09:54 AM ET (US) But remember when people say just "Montauk" they mean an older style 17' BW. Montauks now come in 4 different sizes with the 15' being the smallest with 2' increase each model. The newer Montauk series are much heavier boats. Like the newer Montauk 150 (15') weighs the same as the old "Montauk" (17') and therefore rides similar in a chop. You always have more room in a larger boat. The newer Montauk 170 would be more family friendly than a 13' or 15' Sport. Also the CC will give you more room than a Sport model. Most boaters want a bigger boat and with it a bigger tow vehicle. I went smaller for ease of storage and handling, trailering, etc. Love how my 15' handles in snotty weather or not. Yes you will have spray blown in by wind so don't wear your tuxedo.
alchse	posted 09-17-2014 10:39 AM ET (US) With my budget I am definitely looking at the "classic" models Thanks for the input guys. We have a pretty convenient set up where local the tubing / skiing area is right in front of our house and there is a little public dock at the end of the street that I can use for picking up and dropping off gear and people so I don't think I will need to pack the boat with much more than the bare minimum required. More insights into to side vs center console are appreciated. My next question is on power. What is the ideal power on a 13' and a 15' for this activity? Would I be better suited with a two stroke or a four stroke?