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Landlocked posted 09-29-2011 02:36 PM ET (US)
Just looked at a 1968 13' whaler with a worthless evinrude of the same age and a decent trailer. Seller wants $275. Hull is decent shape. No wood.
The only problem is it appears the entire boat (including floor) has recently recieved a fresh coat of Tennessee Titans blue paint - most likely acrylic latex. Is there any hope of removing it without removing what's left of the underlying gellcoat?
Need to make a decision within the next 2 hours or so any info would be appreciated. Buying as a father son project.
Ll.
tjxtreme posted 09-29-2011 02:57 PM ET (US)
For that price... I would be there buying it right now, can always resell. Especially if your goal is a father-son project- this will be achieved either way. But I would wonder why it was painted? What is is like underneath?
It depends on the paint, but people have reported success with Citristrip and/or oven cleaner. I used oven cleaner but it didn't work that well on its own, had to be combined with sanding. You may be able to get away with light sanding to remove paint in some areas, but the non skid will be gone if you sand the floor.
dburton posted 09-29-2011 03:42 PM ET (US)
A different question might be, can I paint over the blue paint with a quality one or two part polyurethane marine paint. Lots of people (myself included)have painted their restoration projects and been delighted with the result. If you want a fairly good looking trailer boat then a one part poly would be fine if it will adhere to the old paint and the old paint adheres to the gelcoat. If you want a great looking boat then a 2 part poly paint would do that.
I would aggressively sand the boat before I would apply the new paint. The worst area to contend with will be the non-skid floor but there are solutions for that too.
Buy the boat, if one week from now you decide not to do the project you can resell it for what you have into it.
tjxtreme posted 09-29-2011 03:57 PM ET (US)
I do not think you want to apply good paint over bad paint. One reason bad/cheap paint is bad is because it doesn't adhere well... and thus may compromise the good paint.
I agree though that a good final product can be achieved with a nice paint, but you will want to remove as much of the old paint as possible.
Landlocked posted 09-29-2011 04:01 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the replies
No sign of hull damage but crazing of the original gell coat is visible through the paint. I believe this was a drunk afternoon project by the current owner who wanted a boat in Tennessee Titan Colors. Didn't know what he had. Looks like he sprayed it on - rub rail and all.
Still thinking about it.... No wood, no hardware other than the norman pin. Leaning towards spending a little more and getting one more complete.
Ll.
thegage posted 09-29-2011 04:06 PM ET (US)
I've used this to good effect on removing bottom paint without any impact on gel coat. On light bottom paint it immediately went to work and washed off completely; thicker coats required multiple applications and 12 hours or more of sitting. I suspect it would work pretty well on your paint.
http://www.greenboatstuff.com/frsoystmacor1.html
Landlocked posted 09-29-2011 04:21 PM ET (US)
Regardless of what I do with the 13 - I will be trying this on the bottom of the Montauk. Thanks Gage.

I've been doing the "let it wear off and pressure wash a couple times a year" thing with less than satisfactory results.

Ll.
contender posted 09-29-2011 05:08 PM ET (US)
purchase the boat and have it sand/soda/walnut blasted to remove the paint...
Sixer posted 09-29-2011 05:40 PM ET (US)
Gage,
Will the Soy-Strip remove the primer as well, leaving just clean gel-coat? I have been keeping my boat in the water and am thinking of trailering next season. Removing the bottom paint and primer would be a big help in my decision.
pcrussell50 posted 09-29-2011 06:12 PM ET (US)
I use Citrustrip for paint, and oven cleaner for baked on grease... not in my oven, but car parts exposed to heat and grease, and for cleaning the grate of my barbecue grill when it gets really nasty.
-Peter
thegage posted 09-29-2011 08:40 PM ET (US)
In my experience the Soy Strip will remove everything.
John K.
Binkster posted 09-29-2011 09:39 PM ET (US)
The trailer is worth as much or more than the asking price. Actually the light blue and white colors of the Tennessee Titans should look good on a boat. Be thankful the owner is not a Packers fan.

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Author	Topic: Painted 13 at bargain price but could paint be removed?
Landlocked	posted 09-29-2011 02:36 PM ET (US) Just looked at a 1968 13' whaler with a worthless evinrude of the same age and a decent trailer. Seller wants $275. Hull is decent shape. No wood. The only problem is it appears the entire boat (including floor) has recently recieved a fresh coat of Tennessee Titans blue paint - most likely acrylic latex. Is there any hope of removing it without removing what's left of the underlying gellcoat? Need to make a decision within the next 2 hours or so any info would be appreciated. Buying as a father son project. Ll.
tjxtreme	posted 09-29-2011 02:57 PM ET (US) For that price... I would be there buying it right now, can always resell. Especially if your goal is a father-son project- this will be achieved either way. But I would wonder why it was painted? What is is like underneath? It depends on the paint, but people have reported success with Citristrip and/or oven cleaner. I used oven cleaner but it didn't work that well on its own, had to be combined with sanding. You may be able to get away with light sanding to remove paint in some areas, but the non skid will be gone if you sand the floor.
dburton	posted 09-29-2011 03:42 PM ET (US) A different question might be, can I paint over the blue paint with a quality one or two part polyurethane marine paint. Lots of people (myself included)have painted their restoration projects and been delighted with the result. If you want a fairly good looking trailer boat then a one part poly would be fine if it will adhere to the old paint and the old paint adheres to the gelcoat. If you want a great looking boat then a 2 part poly paint would do that. I would aggressively sand the boat before I would apply the new paint. The worst area to contend with will be the non-skid floor but there are solutions for that too. Buy the boat, if one week from now you decide not to do the project you can resell it for what you have into it.
tjxtreme	posted 09-29-2011 03:57 PM ET (US) I do not think you want to apply good paint over bad paint. One reason bad/cheap paint is bad is because it doesn't adhere well... and thus may compromise the good paint. I agree though that a good final product can be achieved with a nice paint, but you will want to remove as much of the old paint as possible.
Landlocked	posted 09-29-2011 04:01 PM ET (US) Thanks for the replies No sign of hull damage but crazing of the original gell coat is visible through the paint. I believe this was a drunk afternoon project by the current owner who wanted a boat in Tennessee Titan Colors. Didn't know what he had. Looks like he sprayed it on - rub rail and all. Still thinking about it.... No wood, no hardware other than the norman pin. Leaning towards spending a little more and getting one more complete. Ll.
thegage	posted 09-29-2011 04:06 PM ET (US) I've used this to good effect on removing bottom paint without any impact on gel coat. On light bottom paint it immediately went to work and washed off completely; thicker coats required multiple applications and 12 hours or more of sitting. I suspect it would work pretty well on your paint. http://www.greenboatstuff.com/frsoystmacor1.html
Landlocked	posted 09-29-2011 04:21 PM ET (US) Regardless of what I do with the 13 - I will be trying this on the bottom of the Montauk. Thanks Gage. I've been doing the "let it wear off and pressure wash a couple times a year" thing with less than satisfactory results. Ll.
contender	posted 09-29-2011 05:08 PM ET (US) purchase the boat and have it sand/soda/walnut blasted to remove the paint...
Sixer	posted 09-29-2011 05:40 PM ET (US) Gage, Will the Soy-Strip remove the primer as well, leaving just clean gel-coat? I have been keeping my boat in the water and am thinking of trailering next season. Removing the bottom paint and primer would be a big help in my decision.
pcrussell50	posted 09-29-2011 06:12 PM ET (US) I use Citrustrip for paint, and oven cleaner for baked on grease... not in my oven, but car parts exposed to heat and grease, and for cleaning the grate of my barbecue grill when it gets really nasty. -Peter
thegage	posted 09-29-2011 08:40 PM ET (US) In my experience the Soy Strip will remove everything. John K.
Binkster	posted 09-29-2011 09:39 PM ET (US) The trailer is worth as much or more than the asking price. Actually the light blue and white colors of the Tennessee Titans should look good on a boat. Be thankful the owner is not a Packers fan.