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jimh posted 10-23-2011 09:47 AM ET (US)   Profile for jimh   Send Email to jimh  
Sorry for the late notice, but only about seven days remain in the "comment period" for responding to the U.S. National Park Service final "Wilderness and Backcountry Management Plan and EIS" for Isle Royale National Park in Lake Superior. You can obtain a copy of the plan on-line from

http://parkplanning.nps.gov/document.cfm?parkID=140&projectID=14066& documentID=43483

The National Park Service describes the plan as follows:

quote:
The Wilderness and Backcountry Management Plan (WBMP) provides a public document that outlines steps for preserving Isle Royale's wilderness character, natural resources, and cultural resources while also providing for the use and enjoyment of the park's wilderness and backcountry by current and future generations; and provides accountability, consistency and continuity for managing Isle Royale's wilderness and backcountry and this park's place in the National Park Service's wilderness management program.

The "EIS"--which after some searching I figured out to mean environmental impact statement--is described as follows:

quote:
The EIS involves analysis of current conditions in the park and likely impacts of implementing each of the alternatives, considering impacts to: visitor use and experiences, wilderness character, natural and cultural resources, socioeconomics and, NPS operations and administration. In general, each of the preferred alternatives would be expected to result in both beneficial and adverse impacts to park resources and values but none of the adverse impacts would be extensive or severe enough to result in impairment.

The two documents offer the reader 432-pages of government speak and are provided in a 15-Megabyte PDF file.

An excerpt from the Executive Summary of this lengthy document reads as follows:

quote:
The most obvious changes from the public perspective are those that address crowding and visitor distribution, visitor information services, and resource conditions. Several issues were presented in the draft plan with multiple alternatives for goals and management actions, which were developed with extensive public input. These issues are;

--1) managing overnight camping and boating in Isle Royale’s wilderness and backcountry, including permitting and information services,

--2) managing day use in the park’s wilderness and backcountry,

--3) managing campfires,

--4) maintaining or removing the fire towers in the park’s wilderness, and

--5) maintaining or removing picnic tables from wilderness campgrounds.


Not having the time to read the entire document, I scanned it by searching for the word "dock." The plan proposes closing down some docks and moving other docks to different locations. I have not had a chance to study these proposed changes to evaluate their impact on my view of boating to Isle Royale. Boaters who have been to Isle Royale or boaters who are planning to visit Isle Royale should read these documents, and, if interested, file a public comment before the review period closes at the end of the month.

jimh posted 10-23-2011 10:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The 432-page document causes me to initially react with a sense of fear that perhaps concealed in all those pages is something particularly bad for me as a small recreational boater who might like to visit the park in his own boat. I wonder if the NPS is trying to hide something in all of the lengthy paragraphs that fill this tome.

It is also amazing how much effort must have been put into this process. I get the sense that perhaps the process is more important than the outcome.

From my only trip to Isle Royale I have a sense from some experiences on that trip that there is a bit of contention and confrontation between the NPS park managers and boaters. I hope the real purpose of these changes is not to make Isle Royale less accessible to small recreational boaters who want to visit for a few days.

MarthaB posted 10-23-2011 11:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for MarthaB  Send Email to MarthaB     
Yes, they (NPS) are trying to make it more difficult for hikers, backpacking campers and boaters to experience a wilderness island. They are concerned about public overuse and visitors who do not respect the land. Because of that, we, who respect the land, are required to abide with new rules.

The Sleeping Bear National Lakeshore wanted to close roads that accessed many places within the lakeshore. People were up in arms with the proposed changes. Because citizens spoke to the issue, at public meetings, for keeping the roads open, the park service rethought the proposed changes.

National parks and lakeshore are our lands, they are public lands. They are supported by our tax dollars. Hopefully the park service will have public meetings. But first, one will need to dig deep into the document, then understand the government double talk.

phatwhaler posted 10-23-2011 12:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
If it's anything like Florida, you'll have a bunch of people that aren't from Michigan dictating how it's going to be.

Sorry man but another liberty you enjoy is under attack.

PeteB88 posted 10-23-2011 02:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for PeteB88  Send Email to PeteB88     
Well,I'm not sure how far along things are now, but permit only access has been the way it is for a long time in some Western wilderness areas especially wild and scenic rivers like the Rogue and the Middle Fork of the Salmon and for good reason.

Lots of folks assume all is idyllic in those places but too often it's far from the truth. Vehicles left at trailheads are targets for thieves and vandals and have been for years. I used to take my old Corolla wagon to certain places and leave NOTHING in the rig, the glove box and console open, flyrod tubes uncapped and leaning against a car window, all compartments open, ash tray pulled out and any camp boxes uncovered so knuckeheads could see there was nothing to steal and no reason to break my windows. I sometimes left a note taped to the back window - "Nothing Left To Take - Please Dont' Break My Windows" or something like that.

The other thing is flat out irresponsible users. SO many wilderness places like Bagby Hot Springs, homesteads on the OR Coast, mountain shacks have been wrecked by irresponsible idiots. Started in 60s w/ certain groups that just screwed it up for everyone.

Best is that the PUBLIC who are responsible users get involved to write the rules - Deschutes R users and guides and packers got screwed back in the 90s when they did not get involved to make sure the regs were going to be fair to everyone.

MIDDLE FORK REGS (example): "The floating activity on the Middle Fork is managed and regulated to preserve the pristine character of the area and experience. Permits to float the river are required all year. The highest use is from May 28 through September 3. This is known as the control season, and permits for this time are allocated through a computerized lottery. Permits for the pre- and/or post-season launch dates that occur outside the lottery control season are also available for reservation beginning on October 1. Campsites are assigned to boaters all year.

Fire pans, portable toilets, ash containers, shovels, buckets and strainers are required equipment to float the river during any season. Leave No Trace, pack-in, pack-out is the camping ethic mandatory to all camping in the corridor and throughout the entire wilderness. During high use periods, campsites are assigned to boaters at the launch sites."

GET INVOLVED or be disappointed and live with what will happen.

Hal Watkins posted 10-23-2011 02:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hal Watkins  Send Email to Hal Watkins     
Page 20...
Transportation
Due to Isle Royale’s isolated location in Lake Superior, with the nearest roads, railroads, and
airports more than 20 miles away in Ontario, there will be virtually no adverse impacts from the
various WBMP alternatives on ground or aerial transportation. The park contains no roads open
to motorists. Isle Royale’s harbors and marinas would not be affected by proposals in the
WBMP. While a major shipping lane does pass through park waters (between Blake’s Point and
Passage Island), none of this plan’s proposals would have any effect on these ships. Therefore,
this topic is dismissed from any further analysis.
Hal Watkins posted 10-23-2011 03:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hal Watkins  Send Email to Hal Watkins     
Page 105
Crowding at Docks in the Backcountry
Currently, Isle Royale allows rafting off at docks when dock space is unavailable and docked
boaters are willing to have another boater (with a valid backcountry permit) raft off their boat.
While on the whole, docks throughout the park are not usually crowded, there are specific
campgrounds with docks that are more apt to run out of dock space than others, including
Caribou Island, Grace Island, and Hay Bay (see Table 9.) In order to determine visitor concern
about crowding at docks, Isle Royale included questions in its 1996 and 1997 visitor surveys,
and in one of its WBMP Newsletters.
1996 Visitor Survey
During the 1996 visitor survey at Isle Royale, backcountry visitors, powerboaters, and day
visitors were asked to identify and rank the importance of perceived problems at the park. A
total of 190 powerboaters, and 798 backcountry visitors were surveyed. 50.8% of the
powerboaters surveyed identified “finding an available docking spot at docks” as a moderate to
serious problem. In addition, 18.6% believed that “having to allow unknown boats/parties to raft
off of my docked boat at night” was a moderate to serious problem. Over 72% of powerboaters
who responded to these two questions had boated to Isle Royale more than once. 5.8% of
powerboaters surveyed felt that “noisy people at campgrounds with docks” was a moderate to
serious problem, and 5% felt the same about “motorboat noise in narrow harbors and bays.”
19.4% of the powerboaters supported “limit(ing) the number of boats so they do not exceed
available dock and anchorage space.” 77.7% of the respondents to this management question
had been to Isle Royale more than once (Pierskalla et al, 1997.)
Over 96% of the 798 backcountry visitors (non-powerboaters) surveyed felt that finding
available dock space, and having to allow rafting off were not problems. However, 20.9% felt
that “noisy people at campgrounds with docks” was a moderate to serious problem, versus 5%
who felt the same about “noisy people at campgrounds without docks.” In addition, 29.8% felt
that motorboat noise in narrow bays and harbors was a moderate to serious problem (Pierskalla
et al, 1997.) While it is not surprising that the majority of backcountry visitors would not be
concerned with dock space and rafting off per se, it is also fair to say that the indirect impacts of
crowding at campground docks (noise levels where boats congregate) may be a moderate to
serious concern to 20-30% of them
1997 Visitor Survey
The 1997 Visitor Survey asked questions and divided respondent groups in a similar manner to
the 1996 survey. One difference in the 1997 survey was the division of user groups by zone
(Frontcountry, Backcountry, Wilderness Portal, and Primitive). In the Backcountry group, 8%
of powerboaters felt that the park should “limit the number of boats so they do not exceed
available dock space.” 29.6% felt that the park should “limit the number of dock spaces
available.” In both the Backcountry and Wilderness Portal groups, the majority of powerboaters
felt that the number of boats at the same dock, number of boats rafting off their own boat, and
the amount of noise generated by other boaters docked near them were all within acceptable
limits (Pierskalla et al, 1998.)
Visitor Use and Experiences
CHAPTER 3 106 : AFFECTED ENVIRONMENT
Non-powerboaters responded to survey questions quite differently. 84.8% felt that to “limit the
number of boats so they do not exceed available dock space” ranked as acceptable to very
acceptable as a management action. Likewise, 87.7% felt that not allowing boat numbers to
exceed available anchorage space was acceptable to very acceptable. 77.9% thought that it
would be acceptable to very acceptable to limit the number of dock spaces available. When
interviewed about their current experience at the park however, the majority of nonpowerboaters
across all use zones felt that the number of powerboats docked and anchored out
during their campground stay was acceptable, and that the number of encounters with
powerboaters docked at campgrounds where non-powerboaters spent the night was no more than
expected (Pierskalla et al, 1998.)
Hoosier posted 10-23-2011 05:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hoosier  Send Email to Hoosier     
Did i read this correctly, this whole thing re boats is based on data almost 15 years old? Has the NPS looked at the statistics about how many boaters visited in 1997 vs 2010? Duh.
K Albus posted 10-23-2011 05:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
The National Park Service has been working on this plan for years. The public comment period for many parts of the plan have long since passed. See page 235 of the Report. The present comment period is essentially only for the purpose of commenting on the form of the Plan (i.e., typos, clerical errors, etc.), and not for commenting on the substance of the plan. The NPS is basically posting the Plan for one final review before making it official.
Buckda posted 10-23-2011 06:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
...and so turn the dynamic, responsive and agile wheels of government bureaucracy... :)

contender posted 10-23-2011 09:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
Maybe I'll just go backpacking along the Iraq border...
jimh posted 10-23-2011 11:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Kevin--thanks for the most acute analysis. You have saved me from staying up late all this week reading the darn thing and composing a response.
K Albus posted 10-25-2011 10:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
I have review the Wilderness and Backcountry Management Plan and EIS, and it appears to me that the provisions having the greatest affect on boaters are the following:

1. The Park intends to implement a flexible reservation system for campgrounds, shelters, dock space, and anchoring out. The proposed plan would place some limits on the number of visitors to the island, primarily during the peak season from mid-July to mid-August. Implementation of this aspect of the plan is subject to appropriation of funding for a Backcountry Management Office, which is to be stationed in Houghton, Michigan. See Section B.2.2 on pages 59-60 of the Plan for an explanation of how the proposed reservation systems would work for boaters.

2. All grills would be removed from the park except in Developed Zones. The only Developed Zones in the park are Rock Harbor, Windigo, and Mott Island. I don't believe there would be any prohibition on using your own grill if you brought one with you. See Section B.2 on page 85 of the Plan.

3. The Ishpeming Fire Tower will be removed, and the Feldtmann Fire Tower may be removed. If you have any desire to see these towers, you better hurry. See Section B.2 on page 85 of the Plan.

4. Picnic tables will be removed from all locations where docks and shelters are to be removed. This basically relates to the removal of the docks and shelters at Duncan Bay and Siskiwit Bay, which are to be removed pursuant to a separate plan, the Isle Royale National Park General Management Plan. When new docks and campgrounds are added pursuant to the General Management Plan, picnic tables would be added at those sites. See Section C.2 on page 91 of the Plan.

andygere posted 10-25-2011 11:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Sadly, this plan seems to fit with the agenda I've observed at a number of other National Parks: remove facilities to discourage the number of visits and recreation within the parks. It seems that there is a strong movement to turn the parks into wilderness museums, to be viewed from afar or not at all. This seems especially so where motorized access is involved (such as boats or beach buggies).
wezie posted 10-26-2011 07:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for wezie  Send Email to wezie     
It will be set up for the maximum benefit of the park service.
I am sure they and theirs will enjoy it immensely.
Just think of the jobs created to keep track of reservations.

jimh posted 10-26-2011 07:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
As one friend observed in an email I received, the National Park Service was initially formed to preserve the parks for the people, and now it appears that its mission is to preserve the parks from the people.
K Albus posted 10-26-2011 09:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for K Albus  Send Email to K Albus     
What I find particularly annoying is the small-but-vocal portion of the "hikers" group which are vehemently opposed to use of the island by "power boaters". Hikers make up 42% of the park's visitors. Most of them arrive at the island by power boat, and many of them use a power boat ferry service to travel around the island. The vast majority of the hiking trails on the island do not come into close contact with the power boating facilities. Nevertheless, this small-but-vocal group seems to hold more sway with park management than any other group.

Power boaters make up 19% of the park's visitors. All boaters, including canoeists, kayakers, sail boaters, and power boaters, make up 28% of the park's visitors. Although certainly not a majority, this is a substantial portion of the total visitor group.

home Aside posted 10-26-2011 10:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
Kevin,

I agree with your comments regarding the hiker's really not being in close proximity to powerboaters for the most part.

Having only been to the Island twice, i've personally seen only friendly & civil interactions between power boaters & hikers. If there were any annoying interactions, and I say this in jest, it would have been us powerboaters being surrounded by hungry hikers as we cooked up our dinners dockside. As Buckda, Jimh, Dave Pendleton, and many others can attest we eat pretty good on our boat trips.

There have also been occasions on the Isle Royal boat trips where members of our group have assisted hikers by shuttling them from one area of the island to another (at no charge). We also helped to feed a group of hungry Texas college students on their last night on the island after a week of hiking.

I think Isle Royale National Park is different than all other National Parks in the respect that to be there it takes an effort, and you really have to want to be there. From that prospective, I think Isle Royale is the cleanest and well kept National Park I've visited. Let's face it you can't just pull up in your vehicle on a cross country drive & decide we're going to Isle Royal today!!!

I think that the "You really have to want to be there" mentality and the difficulty in getting to the island leads to the type of visitors who take much better care of and are much more caring for the island.

Pat

6992WHALER posted 10-26-2011 11:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for 6992WHALER  Send Email to 6992WHALER     
Over the years I have been on the Island many times.
I have to agree that the vast majority of boaters are really caring and considerate people. But I have experienced, generators running all night, Music played too loud, Voices getting louder as the cocktails set in.

One trip when I was probably 5 or 6 we were tied to the dock at McCargo Cove for the night, when a 40foot? boat from Thunder Bay puled in and proceeded to have a very drunk very rowdy very loud all night party. My dad and the other adult male with us spend the entire night guarding the boat, and a group of collage age men hikers spend the night backing up my father. No one in the camp ground slept that night (except me and my brother).

We reported the boat to the park service, turns out they had not cleared customs, so the park service was very interested in them. It was also mentioned that they might be cigarette smugglers, but we never heard anything else.

Lets face it the hikers drink a lot less alcohol than the boaters do, and alcohol can make people louder and dumber.

When boaters have good interactions with hikers, no one reports that on a comment card, but when a boater is a jerk everyone reports it.

andygere posted 10-26-2011 11:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Well said Jimh.

As far as the NPS catering to the wishes of hikers, consider this: There are a lot more hikers than power boaters in powerful lobbies like the Sierra Club. Policy decisions like this have nothing to do with the actual experiences of folks who have visited the island. The special interests do their work behind the scenes, and the NPS conducts a survey that "validates" the agenda.


David Pendleton posted 10-26-2011 12:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
I think the NPS is absolutely trying to separate the populations that use the park. In fact, I think it actually says that somewhere in the management plan.

While they are removing some docks, they are opening (or repairing) others that were previously restricted, like Crystal Cove, Fisherman's Home and Wright Island. I suppose this is a good thing.

None of these docks is accessible to hikers (except maybe Fisherman's Cove, but not easily).

The one that puzzles me most is Duncan Bay. It is not accessible by trail, and every paddler I've ever spoken to agrees that is is an advanced destination for most paddlers. Apparently, the dock at the Narrows will remain open.

Equally puzzling is the decision to repair the dock at Three Mile (after last winter's ice damage), since it is slated for removal.

jimh posted 10-27-2011 02:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
At Isle Royale National Park there were already in place special regulations for certain docks. McCargoe Cove dock was restricted in use to no alcoholic beverages, apparently due to the historical frequency of events there involving too much consumption of alcoholic beverages among boaters using that dock.
David Pendleton posted 10-27-2011 03:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Pendleton  Send Email to David Pendleton     
I have started reading this and at least one of the alternatives to "Managing Overnight Use" is to limit the number of boats at a dock or anchorage, which may not bode well for trips like ours.

See pp. 77, section B.2.2

wezie posted 11-02-2011 07:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for wezie  Send Email to wezie     
David, you are correct about the lobby power of the Sierra group.
Their Travel Club rakes in tons of money encouraging the burning of jet fuel at 30,000ft, so they can lobby against any engine power.
Oil is bad!
Repairing a dock that will be removed sounds like a Brother-in-Law contract. OK, maybe just a political crony project.

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