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pcrussell50 posted 12-17-2011 08:05 PM ET (US)   Profile for pcrussell50   Send Email to pcrussell50  
... Motul can.

Just got back from checking out Cristmas villages in Bavaria, then hitting up our regular haunt on French Riviera to warm our frozen bones. Often as we visit Europe (too many times to count, we've never been to Bavaria). Anyhow, street vendors everywhere selling schnitzel and sausages and hot punch (if you don't ask for it without, you will get a wallop of schnapps with it), AND chestnuts roasting everywhere. The standard rig? A standard steel wire shopping cart, with an inverted, 5-gallon steel can, with hot coals underneath and holes punched in the bottom, (which is now on top because it's inverted). Naturally, the one I gave my business to is the one who was using a Motul can. :)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motul_(company)

As a side note, it was refreshing to see a free market at work, (in Europe, no less), without being regulated to death. Haven't seen that for a while around here :( Oh wait, a grade school girl in San Francisco got to sell lemonade for a couple of hours before she was shut down for not having a permit or attending a commercial food handling class.

-Peter

pcrussell50 posted 12-17-2011 09:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for pcrussell50  Send Email to pcrussell50     
Forgot to say, Motul being an engine fluids and lubricants company, it thought it was a'propos to mention here. Motul is widely regarded in the racing world for making some of, if not THE best brake fluid out there. I use it.

I"d be shocked if some of our fellow Whaler'ers in Europe don't use a Motul product or two in their maritime hobbies as well.

-Peter

JustinAndersen posted 12-17-2011 09:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for JustinAndersen  Send Email to JustinAndersen     
Sir:

Would you kindly tell us exactly how your thread pertains to Boston Whalers?

pcrussell50 posted 12-17-2011 09:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for pcrussell50  Send Email to pcrussell50     
Would you have asked that question if I had seen the chestnuts being roasted on a 5-gallon can of Sta-Bil or Quickleen, or Mercury, Yamaha or Bombardier oil? Motul is a major, highly regarded maker of motor and motoring-related fluids and lubricants. And Boston Whalers have motors... for the most part.

Further, for a variety of reasons I won't delve into unless asked, I bet Motul is better known in Canada than it is around here.

-Peter

thegage posted 12-17-2011 11:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for thegage  Send Email to thegage     
quote:
As a side note, it was refreshing to see a free market at work, (in Europe, no less), without being regulated to death. Haven't seen that for a while around here :(

Same old tired screed. No matter how many times repeated, it's still not connected to reality.

John K.

pcrussell50 posted 12-18-2011 01:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for pcrussell50  Send Email to pcrussell50     
It's worse than tiresome. You should see it from my shoes. As I travel around the world, I'm _constantly_ reminded of how much we have lost.

-Peter

elaelap posted 12-18-2011 01:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
Funny, Peter, as I travel around the world I realize how incredibly much we have (and in certain ways, how much we could gain from others). Oh well, I guess that's 'cause I'm viewing that glass of lemonade half full rather than half empty.

By the way, please leave poor ol' San Francisco out of your lemonade stand tale. A quick Google of <lemonade stand closed down> will show you that the guilty LEOs were from Midway Georgia, Coraville Iowa, Portland Oregon, and McAllen Texas, NOT the City by the Bay. (ref: Forbes)

Tony

pcrussell50 posted 12-18-2011 02:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for pcrussell50  Send Email to pcrussell50     
I view the domestic glass as half empty, simply because it _used_ to be full. And I have watched it drain.

Where the idiocrats are, who shut down kids lemonade stands, is of course, entirely irrelevant. That they occur at all is the tragedy.

-Peter

elaelap posted 12-18-2011 11:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
When, specifically as to year(s), was our evolving nation's glass "full", Peter?

Though I realize it's hard for many to grasp, I believe we're slowly improving; that our amazing experiment in republican democracy marches (sometimes stumbling) along -- away from slavery, from men-only voting, from child labor, from unregulated food and drugs, from rapacious disregard for our environment, from lynching and Jim Crow, from sexism and homophobia. (We're speaking here only of domestic matters; perhaps some day we'll get our national act together re multi-national corporations and their bedfellow, imperialist invasions and occupations of sovereign countries).

I think it was St. Augustine back in the fourth century of the common era who admonished: "Don't despair; one of the thieves was saved. Don't presume; one of the thieves was damned." And wasn't it another great philosopher during the Viet Nam fiasco (I'm not sure which of the group of four) who asserted: "Gotta admit it's getting better, getting better all the time..."

Tony

...couldn't get much worse.

pcrussell50 posted 12-18-2011 03:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for pcrussell50  Send Email to pcrussell50     
Dates? I dunno Tony. Can Steve Job's doctor tell us the date that his first cancerous cell appeared? The theft of our liberty is the same creeping, insidious process. 50 years ago, shutting down a kid's lemonade stand would never even have been considered. Nor would keeping a guy from roasting chestnuts at a Christmas festival on empty can of outboard oil. Innocent marine propulsion companies would not have lost court cases over propeller accidents caused by neglectful users.

So, are we safer for all this? That's debatable. Are we freer for it? No way.

And freer is more important.

-Peter

Jessielove posted 12-18-2011 03:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jessielove  Send Email to Jessielove     
At my son's elementary school parents can no longer bring in birthday cakes/cookies/cupcakes (or any other food) to share with the class, and at higher grades all food brought in for fundraising must include complete ingredient lists. I have seen food sent in by parents end up in the garbage because they did not have ingredient lists to display for potential buyers. The fear of litigation is powerful.
contender posted 12-18-2011 08:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
Mean while people are starving? What's wrong with this picture???
elaelap posted 12-18-2011 09:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
"50 years ago, shutting down a kid's lemonade stand would never even have been considered."

Maybe, and that's good. On the other hand, fifty years ago (1961) folks with dark skins couldn't vote in many states, let alone eat in public establishments or drink out of 'white only' fountains, were forced to sit in the back of public transportation, were legally (de jure) and/or extra-legally (de facto) denied rental accommodations and home purchases in "white" (meaning non-slum) neighborhoods, and were denied education and decent employment opportunities. Women didn't have it all that good either when it came to higher educational and employment opportunities, and heaven help a gay person, because so-called "sodomy" laws made homosexuals liable for felony imprisonment for merely existing. Oh yeah, fifty years ago, soon after the inauguration of JFK, our so-called leaders began ramping up the Viet Nam mess, which would lead to a dozen years of national division and misery, and to the deaths of over 50,000 American servicemen and women.

Great time for a "full glass" of lemonade, however.

Tony

pete r posted 12-18-2011 09:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for pete r  Send Email to pete r     
Today I found it was illegal to climb a ladder at the school where my wife works!!!!
elaelap posted 12-18-2011 09:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
To answer your question directly, Peter: yes, we (the citizens of the United States) are much "freer" now than we were fifty years ago, but there's a long way to go.

Tony

gnr posted 12-19-2011 08:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for gnr    
Lol!
egres posted 12-19-2011 10:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for egres  Send Email to egres     
‘Hey guys, you made it’: Final U.S. combat troops leave Iraq
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12/18/ hey-guys-you-made-it-final-u-s-combat-troops-leave-iraq/
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12/15/ u-s-military-mission-in-iraq-officially-comes-to-an-end/
contender posted 12-19-2011 04:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
Elaelap: To answer your question directly, Peter: yes, we (the citizens of the United States) are much "freer" now than we were fifty years ago, but there's a long way to go.

This would be a matter of opinion, some things yes and some things no, I my eyes we are not...

frontier posted 12-19-2011 05:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for frontier  Send Email to frontier     
Tony is not alone in his negative view of America, he is joined by Barack and Michelle Obama and others.

However, I think most Americans, including myself, are proud of our country.
We think the United States of America is an exceptional country, with mostly exceptional people doing exceptional things.

elaelap posted 12-20-2011 11:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
I'm also proud of our nation, frontier. As I said above: "Our amazing experiment in republican democracy marches (sometimes stumbling) along...," and I've seen dramatic victories in human and civil rights during my lifetime. I'm just not one of those "America-right-or-wrong" fanatics, blind to our nation's history. I love this land, warts and all, but we're anything but perfect, that's for damn sure.

Tony

Binkster posted 12-22-2011 03:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster    
Government regulation is overbearing and impedes our freedom. Take the aviation business for instance. Guys like Peter need a GOVERMENT LICENCE just to fly people from place to place. If he didn't know how to fly an airplane, I'm sure he wouldn't risk his own butt by doing it, so how is a 'licence' going to make it safer. The GOVERMENT regulates where he can fly, what route to take and how many hours he can work. And if there is a crash the GOVERMENT investigates and tries to pin the blame on somebody else other than the REGULATERS. Where is our freedom to do as we please. Shsh, is this a SOCIALIST country or what.?
Back to that lemonade stand. The GOVERMENT says that little girl needs GOVEMENT LICENCE, just like Peter. They don't trust her just as they don't trust Peter. She might be selling pxxs, not lemonade, and make people sick, they think, and Peter may be incompetent.
In reality that little girl is only selling fresh squeezed lemonade, and Peter is a good pilot, even if his old uncle taught him to fly. No need of GOVERMENT LICENCES or REGULATION.
elaelap posted 12-22-2011 06:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for elaelap  Send Email to elaelap     
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frontier posted 12-22-2011 07:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for frontier  Send Email to frontier     
The bright side and the silver lining:
All the jobs more government regulation would provide.

With all the pollution and damage to the earth by seagulls, it's time to start up the EPA and local state Ecology "Seagull Diaper Program".
Thousands of new high paying government jobs with a whole new category: "Seagull Diaper Changer".
Sales of Boston Whaler chase boats would skyrocket.

gnr posted 12-23-2011 10:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for gnr    
NY State and Vermont DNR have been shooting cormorants on Lake Champlain.

I wonder it they thought of the diaper angle....

frontier posted 12-23-2011 11:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for frontier  Send Email to frontier     
The bird diaper program has run up against some opposition.
Car Wash owners are very upset.
fishgutz posted 12-23-2011 12:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for fishgutz  Send Email to fishgutz     
Back to topic. Have you ever eaten roasted chestnuts? They're awful.
pcrussell50 posted 12-24-2011 09:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for pcrussell50  Send Email to pcrussell50     
I love them... which was part of the inspiration for the thread. I ate some roasted by the street vendor in Bavaria on the upturned Motul can. Then when I got back home, I roasted a batch of my own on my barbecue grill. Mmm... little salt... mmm.

I admire the resourcefulness of the European street vendors, repurposing a previously used 5-gallon can. I'm romanced by it. too. Being a participant in motoring hobbies, (like boating), I would love a VP Racing Fuel, can or a Motul brake fluid can, or Evinrude 2-stroke oil.

Ok, sometimes they turn a little gray after sitting for a while but they're stil tasty.

-Peter

fno posted 12-24-2011 10:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
I too think Chestnuts taste awful. Wacky part is, the Italians know how to cook with them (Risotto with Chestnuts and honey) and they taste marvelous. Nor did I know until some time spent there,that pumpkin flowers are also a delicassy(check my spelling,Jim) And to all a X-mas wish for us all to make sure we have clean underwear on in case we boat with crappy batteries and the pull cord that breaks while trying to start that big four stroke. On the other hand, having a second pair on board for some of us is more appropriate (call it redundancy!!!) Merry X-mas all....
MarthaB posted 12-25-2011 11:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for MarthaB  Send Email to MarthaB     
fno........While you were in Petoskey, did you experience the "winter wonderland"?
fno posted 12-26-2011 09:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
I missed most of the festivities as I left the first week of December. But guess where I am going next week??
MarthaB posted 12-26-2011 06:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for MarthaB  Send Email to MarthaB     
I don't know.....Where?
fno posted 12-27-2011 10:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for fno  Send Email to fno     
Back to Petoskey,MI.

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