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WhalerAce posted 02-20-2012 02:18 PM ET (US)
There are two different Whalers here under consideration:
The first is a 1996 17' Dauntless that one of my sons is looking at. He grew up on our Montauk and later Outrage 22-WD, so is familiar with the different types of rides. Since we have not seen this boat, let's assume that it is indeed in really good shape. Do you think that this is a fair price:
http://charleston.craigslist.org/boa/2832875660.html . I assume that the Evinrude is also a 1996 model. Is the $6500 a good price? This would be used in and around Charleston harbor (but not offshore) and up the Ashley and Cooper Rivers and tidal creeks. The son and his fiance combined weigh less than 250 lbs.
The second is a 1984 Newport with a 1998 Yamaha 90 and an '02-ish LoadMastertrailer. I have seen this boat in person, and it has some crazing, and the gel coat on the bottom right chine at the back has been chipped off down to the green glass (but don't think that there is water intrusion). This boat does have the rare four-man seat in the back. There are rust stains around the stanchions, and the windshield is missing at both the helm and the bow. The link for that is here: http://seelsoutboard.com/used-boats/?inv_action=detail&inventory_id=31 . I plan to start around $7K, but what would be a final good price? This one is for me and Joy for use in about the same areas, but we are interested in this boat because of the availability of sandbars and beaches to stop and beach on (with our four Chihuahua-Daschund fur-babies.
And thanks to you all in advance for your advice.
--- WhalerAce
Jeff posted 02-20-2012 02:46 PM ET (US)
Ace, Are you considering selling the Tempation or just adding?
To be honest, that Newport is honestly a $5500 - $6000 boat with all that has been hacked up and now missing.
To bad this one is on the Other coast. It looks OEM perfect.
http://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/2836322307.html
As for the Dauntless, it seems like a fair price all things considered. I seem to remember seeing another nice one recently in Florida with a 130 Yamaha.
Buoy posted 02-20-2012 08:43 PM ET (US)
I've seen the circa 1996 17' Dauntlesses on-line for about that price and highter. If the boat and engine check out, I think it's a very fair price at $6.500.
I had a 1999 18" Ventura which had the same layout, just a foot longer. With a Yamaha 150 the boat reached speeds of almost 50mph.
Those two captain chairs swing around 180 degrees to face the stern seats which facilitates nice conversation when the boat is at idle. The kids could also close the windshield for some weather protection on those chillier spring and fall days. Not sure if this particular boat has canvas, but a full enclosure was optional for those years.
You might have your son check it out and sit/stand behind the wheel. Since he grew up on the Outrage and Montauk, he might prefer to stand. Confirm that there's ample standing enough room between the windshild and seat....I think my 18' Ventura had ample standing room but I don't recall for sure. Note the bow makes for a decent fishing platform too.
Tohsgib posted 02-21-2012 02:20 PM ET (US)
Ixnay on the ewportnay at $7k....more like $5+.
Buy my Revenge!
Jeff posted 02-21-2012 10:45 PM ET (US)
Ace,
Here is a 17 Dauntless comp I can across this evening.
http://houston.craigslist.org/boa/2862063197.html
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/boa/2801467349.html
djacksonrn posted 02-22-2012 08:52 AM ET (US)
Ace,
I called about this Dauntless when it was listed previously, I believe he has yet to sell it. If memory serves, the engine was not in operable condition at the time, so it was a hull and trailer deal with an engine of questionable value hanging on the back. It would appear that he has revived the engine, but I'd be asking who has done the servicing on it and when it was last done. IF the engine has been serviced and cared for, it should last a good long time (I'm still running a 1982 OMC 90hp). I think the Dauntlessis the perfect size and config for the Cooper and Ashley. I was out on the Cooper in my Katama a week ago, it was like glass. I ran for 2 hours starting at Bushy Park and up the river , then down the freshwater side back to the launch without a single bump. Even got a little sun on that run. Seels is pretty reputable but IMHO can be overpriced.
I'll keep an eye out for y'all on the river.
WhalerAce posted 02-26-2012 10:25 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the replies . . .
Jeff,
Right now we are just adding to the fleet. I still love the Temptation, but the times we use IT are getting fewer and farther between. If I had a good offer . . .

Rob,
I kinda wish the boat had the larger horsepower engine on it in the V6 category, but your points are well taken. We are planning on looking at the boat in person one day this week.

Nick,
I took half of your advice to heart -- we are going to pass on the Newport at that price. But I WAS hoping to have a smaller boat that I could trailer down for your big soiree next month. Can't buy the Revenge -- we have a Dumptruck I am trying to finish once I get some more teak.

djacksonrn,
Yeah, I think the kids might enjoy that boat, too. Actually, we have had discussions and may pick up the boat if they decide to pass on it. (And I was trying to SAVE some money!) BTW, how come you have never done the Waccamaw trip with us? This year's trip is still being scheduled, so plan to join us!

So bottom line, we are going to pass on the Newport, and check out the Dauntless in person this week. I thank all of you for your responses. Will let you know how things turn out.
--- WhalerAce


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Author	Topic: Need Pricing Advice on TWO different Whalers
WhalerAce	posted 02-20-2012 02:18 PM ET (US) There are two different Whalers here under consideration: The first is a 1996 17' Dauntless that one of my sons is looking at. He grew up on our Montauk and later Outrage 22-WD, so is familiar with the different types of rides. Since we have not seen this boat, let's assume that it is indeed in really good shape. Do you think that this is a fair price: http://charleston.craigslist.org/boa/2832875660.html . I assume that the Evinrude is also a 1996 model. Is the $6500 a good price? This would be used in and around Charleston harbor (but not offshore) and up the Ashley and Cooper Rivers and tidal creeks. The son and his fiance combined weigh less than 250 lbs. The second is a 1984 Newport with a 1998 Yamaha 90 and an '02-ish LoadMastertrailer. I have seen this boat in person, and it has some crazing, and the gel coat on the bottom right chine at the back has been chipped off down to the green glass (but don't think that there is water intrusion). This boat does have the rare four-man seat in the back. There are rust stains around the stanchions, and the windshield is missing at both the helm and the bow. The link for that is here: http://seelsoutboard.com/used-boats/?inv_action=detail&inventory_id=31 . I plan to start around $7K, but what would be a final good price? This one is for me and Joy for use in about the same areas, but we are interested in this boat because of the availability of sandbars and beaches to stop and beach on (with our four Chihuahua-Daschund fur-babies. And thanks to you all in advance for your advice. --- WhalerAce
Jeff	posted 02-20-2012 02:46 PM ET (US) Ace, Are you considering selling the Tempation or just adding? To be honest, that Newport is honestly a $5500 - $6000 boat with all that has been hacked up and now missing. To bad this one is on the Other coast. It looks OEM perfect. http://monterey.craigslist.org/boa/2836322307.html As for the Dauntless, it seems like a fair price all things considered. I seem to remember seeing another nice one recently in Florida with a 130 Yamaha.
Buoy	posted 02-20-2012 08:43 PM ET (US) I've seen the circa 1996 17' Dauntlesses on-line for about that price and highter. If the boat and engine check out, I think it's a very fair price at $6.500. I had a 1999 18" Ventura which had the same layout, just a foot longer. With a Yamaha 150 the boat reached speeds of almost 50mph. Those two captain chairs swing around 180 degrees to face the stern seats which facilitates nice conversation when the boat is at idle. The kids could also close the windshield for some weather protection on those chillier spring and fall days. Not sure if this particular boat has canvas, but a full enclosure was optional for those years. You might have your son check it out and sit/stand behind the wheel. Since he grew up on the Outrage and Montauk, he might prefer to stand. Confirm that there's ample standing enough room between the windshild and seat....I think my 18' Ventura had ample standing room but I don't recall for sure. Note the bow makes for a decent fishing platform too.
Tohsgib	posted 02-21-2012 02:20 PM ET (US) Ixnay on the ewportnay at $7k....more like $5+. Buy my Revenge!
Jeff	posted 02-21-2012 10:45 PM ET (US) Ace, Here is a 17 Dauntless comp I can across this evening. http://houston.craigslist.org/boa/2862063197.html http://knoxville.craigslist.org/boa/2801467349.html
djacksonrn	posted 02-22-2012 08:52 AM ET (US) Ace, I called about this Dauntless when it was listed previously, I believe he has yet to sell it. If memory serves, the engine was not in operable condition at the time, so it was a hull and trailer deal with an engine of questionable value hanging on the back. It would appear that he has revived the engine, but I'd be asking who has done the servicing on it and when it was last done. IF the engine has been serviced and cared for, it should last a good long time (I'm still running a 1982 OMC 90hp). I think the Dauntlessis the perfect size and config for the Cooper and Ashley. I was out on the Cooper in my Katama a week ago, it was like glass. I ran for 2 hours starting at Bushy Park and up the river , then down the freshwater side back to the launch without a single bump. Even got a little sun on that run. Seels is pretty reputable but IMHO can be overpriced. I'll keep an eye out for y'all on the river.
WhalerAce	posted 02-26-2012 10:25 PM ET (US) Thanks for the replies . . . Jeff, Right now we are just adding to the fleet. I still love the Temptation, but the times we use IT are getting fewer and farther between. If I had a good offer . . . Rob, I kinda wish the boat had the larger horsepower engine on it in the V6 category, but your points are well taken. We are planning on looking at the boat in person one day this week. Nick, I took half of your advice to heart -- we are going to pass on the Newport at that price. But I WAS hoping to have a smaller boat that I could trailer down for your big soiree next month. Can't buy the Revenge -- we have a Dumptruck I am trying to finish once I get some more teak. djacksonrn, Yeah, I think the kids might enjoy that boat, too. Actually, we have had discussions and may pick up the boat if they decide to pass on it. (And I was trying to SAVE some money!) BTW, how come you have never done the Waccamaw trip with us? This year's trip is still being scheduled, so plan to join us! So bottom line, we are going to pass on the Newport, and check out the Dauntless in person this week. I thank all of you for your responses. Will let you know how things turn out. --- WhalerAce