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egres posted 06-02-2012 07:21 PM ET (US)
Marine gas being in excess of six bucks a gal lately. We have seen our time spent on the water more precisely scheduled lately. My friends and I have been managing to pool up and go out in groups to share expenses. The word coming down from the guys from the fuel services is the the price will soon be up to $8-gallon. We already have found that sharing in expenses and outing has helped budget wise.
I will bet that a lot of us have been looking at solutions for this high pricing tendency. Will there be a solution to make boating more economical to North Americans? Working on the Whaler in the driveway is always good fun as there will never be an end to updates and maintenance. I will question as to your local solutions to have made it economically affordable this year.
K Albus posted 06-02-2012 07:32 PM ET (US)
Fuel prices in Michigan a slightly lower this year than they were last year at this time. The price of fuel has not yet affected my boating plans.
Lil Whaler Lover posted 06-02-2012 07:36 PM ET (US)
I knew there were many reasons I am on the right coast. Gas at our local boatramp/marina was $4.599 per gallon yesterday. That is for 93 octane gas with no ethanol. "Go East young man". That is in Bath, North Carolina. By the way car gas was under $3.25 per gallon.
contender posted 06-02-2012 07:45 PM ET (US)
Gas at the station is between $3.60-3.70 a gal for regular. $3.70-3.80 for the medium grade (89 octane) here in the Ft. Lauderdale Fl. area. I keep all of my boats on trailers so I'm able to purchase gas on land. I have been using American Express Cards which gives me cash back .o3%. I also have a Winn Dixie card that sometimes gives you .25 cents off a gallon. I was up in Vero Beach Fl. last weekend and gas prices were .30 cents a gallon cheaper across the board...
martyn1075 posted 06-02-2012 08:53 PM ET (US)
Wow you guys are catching up to us Canadians. 5.85 is the norm for us. They like to burn us about 30% more on average on the US price.
It would be nice if someone could convert saltwater mixed with something to create propulsion. We have endless amount of salt water and it's free.
Ridge Runner posted 06-02-2012 10:42 PM ET (US)
NJ had some stations hit $3.29 today for regular.
fwernlein posted 06-04-2012 11:11 AM ET (US)
As much as the fuel prices "pinch" now...every time I look at and use my 17" Montauk...I can think back to the "whale" I had before, a 27' express cruiser with two big block V-8's and a 200 gallon tank.
Thankfully, my boating needs changed and I got out of that gas eating machine and got into the Montauk.
It's been 6 years at least...and I'm still loving the Whaler!

andrey320 posted 06-04-2012 11:32 AM ET (US)
My per outing gas usage is about 10 gallons. This includes 4 to 6 gallons for the boat and 4 to 5 gallons for the car. The very fuel-shy Honda BF60 gets almost 10 mpg and my V6 Camry wagon gets about 17 mpg while towing. I boat throughout the year once every other week. That comes to about $1000 annually for gas (at $4/gallon fuel cost). With all other costs included, boating is probably under $2000 per year for me. I think that is cheap for the type of hobby and amount of pleasure I get. Even if fuel cost doubled, it would still be waaaaay worth it.
However, if gas prices double, most other things will double (except our income) and boating fuel prices will not be the only consideration to keep in mind….
Thank you egres for the thread - it made me do the math again.
Binkster posted 06-04-2012 12:11 PM ET (US)
Outboards are built to run on 87 octane, no need for so called "marine" gas. The same stuff you use in your car will work well for four stroke outboards. Gas is #3.22 here today at Sam's/
rich
Dick E posted 06-07-2012 12:11 PM ET (US)
I get gas over the border in SC. Yesterday paid $3.11/gal for 87 octane.
I also have PenFed credit card which gives me a 5% rebate on my gas purchases,any gas station as long as it's "pay at the pump".
Fuel at marinas & airports only 1% rebate. I will fill my tanks at the highway gas and tote it.$$$$.
Mike Kub posted 06-07-2012 02:16 PM ET (US)
Is the price of gas really an issue in the whole scheme of things?C'mon Man.Peace
gusgus posted 06-07-2012 02:38 PM ET (US)
Mike, DUH!
Of course it is. How protected you must be in your ivory tower, but for every cent raise in pump prices is one cent families can't use to buy medical needs, food, rent, payments, insurance or utilities.
Every single item in any kind of commercial store is handled like any commodity would be, the charged price is now speculated on. If they see a dollar rise in pump fuel in a year, the price charged for each item must cover the increased costs in manufacture and shipping and if they believe it will raise a dollar fifty, the charged price is then speculated on, at that expected price.
So Mike, YES it does matter, it matters a lot.
BQUICK posted 06-07-2012 02:52 PM ET (US)
My marina is $1.20 more than on land right now. They say they bought their gas BEFORE the prices started down.
Another pet peeve is that the crude pices can go down 30% but the pump price goes down say 15%. Eventually it might but they sure take their time. I guess I don't understand how the system works......
bkjones posted 06-07-2012 08:59 PM ET (US)
90 octane, ethanol free gas is just at $4/gallon here in the Tampa Bay area in FL. I've got some room to go before I start being deterred (not that I want to go that distance though).
Mike Kub posted 06-07-2012 09:04 PM ET (US)
I fully realize the impact of fuel prices on our economy.My post is aimed at guys with multi-thousand dollar boats quibbling over a few cents a gallon.If thats the case,they should sell their Whalers and get kayaks.
martyn1075 posted 06-07-2012 09:24 PM ET (US)
I agree it goes with the territory but what I hate the most is the politics that determine that personally I will have to pay 30% more than the average user when we all know its the same gas just trucked up a few more miles. Provincial tax yes but where is the other 20% go? It goes to the deep greedy pockets of the owners. I can't exactly economically tow my 25 whaler across the border to fill it up either. They would be onto me like gravy to mashed potatoes. But I just love my boating and I will not let it ruin my life it just means I have to work harder to make more money or shorten my trips. It is fun to vent it out on these threads once in a while.
Like I said Americans are doing alight on the evil gas price although it is still a nasty situation.
Martyn
wezie posted 06-10-2012 01:07 PM ET (US)
Marinas have liabilities that are horrendous when handling fuel.
Their equipment cost and regulatory costs are high.
In Calif. these prices are to be expected.
wannabe posted 06-10-2012 01:19 PM ET (US)
They are getting $4.25 a gallon on the water here in Toledo,Oh with 10% ethanol. I haven't paid too much attention to it since I didn't have a boat until last week. I thought they were still arguing about it whether to put it on the water. The 10% sticker was on the side of the pump.
Drew
20dauntless posted 06-10-2012 08:58 PM ET (US)
I've purchased gas at numerous Canadian fuel docks in the last week and a half on my way from Anacortes to Alaska and have not yet seen prices higher than $6.00 USD per gallon. Here's what I've paid so far:
Secret Cove Marina: 1.499 CAD/liter
Lagoon Cove: 1.489 CAD/liter
Sullivan Bay: 1.599 CAD/liter
Port Hardy (Quartermaster Marina): 1.296 CAD/liter
New Bella Bella: 1.42 CAD/liter
Hartley Bay: 1.443 CAD/liter
Prince Rupert: 1.149 CAD/liter
egres posted 06-11-2012 02:41 PM ET (US)
Yes, I know,it seems to be a bit confusing at times.
From the "Imperial" gallon as opposed to the US gallon,(smaller)
And experienced here through out the years an ever increasing price at the pump with a standardized measure of a Can gallon to having switched to the metric system a few years back..
And getting double whammy in cost by reducing the quantity as in liters and jacking up the price on the sold units from the get go.
Nothing to really get bitter about but understanding that the increasing costs of fueling will deserve some thoughts in solutions .
And for the not so familiar to the metric system.
One Canadian gallon equal 4.55 Liters
And as a round up number of $1.50/L time 4.55= $6.825 per Gal.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/ How_many_liters_in_Canada_does_it_take_to_make_a_gallon

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egres	posted 06-02-2012 07:21 PM ET (US) Marine gas being in excess of six bucks a gal lately. We have seen our time spent on the water more precisely scheduled lately. My friends and I have been managing to pool up and go out in groups to share expenses. The word coming down from the guys from the fuel services is the the price will soon be up to $8-gallon. We already have found that sharing in expenses and outing has helped budget wise. I will bet that a lot of us have been looking at solutions for this high pricing tendency. Will there be a solution to make boating more economical to North Americans? Working on the Whaler in the driveway is always good fun as there will never be an end to updates and maintenance. I will question as to your local solutions to have made it economically affordable this year.
K Albus	posted 06-02-2012 07:32 PM ET (US) Fuel prices in Michigan a slightly lower this year than they were last year at this time. The price of fuel has not yet affected my boating plans.
Lil Whaler Lover	posted 06-02-2012 07:36 PM ET (US) I knew there were many reasons I am on the right coast. Gas at our local boatramp/marina was $4.599 per gallon yesterday. That is for 93 octane gas with no ethanol. "Go East young man". That is in Bath, North Carolina. By the way car gas was under $3.25 per gallon.
contender	posted 06-02-2012 07:45 PM ET (US) Gas at the station is between $3.60-3.70 a gal for regular. $3.70-3.80 for the medium grade (89 octane) here in the Ft. Lauderdale Fl. area. I keep all of my boats on trailers so I'm able to purchase gas on land. I have been using American Express Cards which gives me cash back .o3%. I also have a Winn Dixie card that sometimes gives you .25 cents off a gallon. I was up in Vero Beach Fl. last weekend and gas prices were .30 cents a gallon cheaper across the board...
martyn1075	posted 06-02-2012 08:53 PM ET (US) Wow you guys are catching up to us Canadians. 5.85 is the norm for us. They like to burn us about 30% more on average on the US price. It would be nice if someone could convert saltwater mixed with something to create propulsion. We have endless amount of salt water and it's free.
Ridge Runner	posted 06-02-2012 10:42 PM ET (US) NJ had some stations hit $3.29 today for regular.
fwernlein	posted 06-04-2012 11:11 AM ET (US) As much as the fuel prices "pinch" now...every time I look at and use my 17" Montauk...I can think back to the "whale" I had before, a 27' express cruiser with two big block V-8's and a 200 gallon tank. Thankfully, my boating needs changed and I got out of that gas eating machine and got into the Montauk. It's been 6 years at least...and I'm still loving the Whaler!
andrey320	posted 06-04-2012 11:32 AM ET (US) My per outing gas usage is about 10 gallons. This includes 4 to 6 gallons for the boat and 4 to 5 gallons for the car. The very fuel-shy Honda BF60 gets almost 10 mpg and my V6 Camry wagon gets about 17 mpg while towing. I boat throughout the year once every other week. That comes to about $1000 annually for gas (at $4/gallon fuel cost). With all other costs included, boating is probably under $2000 per year for me. I think that is cheap for the type of hobby and amount of pleasure I get. Even if fuel cost doubled, it would still be waaaaay worth it. However, if gas prices double, most other things will double (except our income) and boating fuel prices will not be the only consideration to keep in mind…. Thank you egres for the thread - it made me do the math again.
Binkster	posted 06-04-2012 12:11 PM ET (US) Outboards are built to run on 87 octane, no need for so called "marine" gas. The same stuff you use in your car will work well for four stroke outboards. Gas is #3.22 here today at Sam's/ rich
Dick E	posted 06-07-2012 12:11 PM ET (US) I get gas over the border in SC. Yesterday paid $3.11/gal for 87 octane. I also have PenFed credit card which gives me a 5% rebate on my gas purchases,any gas station as long as it's "pay at the pump". Fuel at marinas & airports only 1% rebate. I will fill my tanks at the highway gas and tote it.$$$$.
Mike Kub	posted 06-07-2012 02:16 PM ET (US) Is the price of gas really an issue in the whole scheme of things?C'mon Man.Peace
gusgus	posted 06-07-2012 02:38 PM ET (US) Mike, DUH! Of course it is. How protected you must be in your ivory tower, but for every cent raise in pump prices is one cent families can't use to buy medical needs, food, rent, payments, insurance or utilities. Every single item in any kind of commercial store is handled like any commodity would be, the charged price is now speculated on. If they see a dollar rise in pump fuel in a year, the price charged for each item must cover the increased costs in manufacture and shipping and if they believe it will raise a dollar fifty, the charged price is then speculated on, at that expected price. So Mike, YES it does matter, it matters a lot.
BQUICK	posted 06-07-2012 02:52 PM ET (US) My marina is $1.20 more than on land right now. They say they bought their gas BEFORE the prices started down. Another pet peeve is that the crude pices can go down 30% but the pump price goes down say 15%. Eventually it might but they sure take their time. I guess I don't understand how the system works......
bkjones	posted 06-07-2012 08:59 PM ET (US) 90 octane, ethanol free gas is just at $4/gallon here in the Tampa Bay area in FL. I've got some room to go before I start being deterred (not that I want to go that distance though).
Mike Kub	posted 06-07-2012 09:04 PM ET (US) I fully realize the impact of fuel prices on our economy.My post is aimed at guys with multi-thousand dollar boats quibbling over a few cents a gallon.If thats the case,they should sell their Whalers and get kayaks.
martyn1075	posted 06-07-2012 09:24 PM ET (US) I agree it goes with the territory but what I hate the most is the politics that determine that personally I will have to pay 30% more than the average user when we all know its the same gas just trucked up a few more miles. Provincial tax yes but where is the other 20% go? It goes to the deep greedy pockets of the owners. I can't exactly economically tow my 25 whaler across the border to fill it up either. They would be onto me like gravy to mashed potatoes. But I just love my boating and I will not let it ruin my life it just means I have to work harder to make more money or shorten my trips. It is fun to vent it out on these threads once in a while. Like I said Americans are doing alight on the evil gas price although it is still a nasty situation. Martyn
wezie	posted 06-10-2012 01:07 PM ET (US) Marinas have liabilities that are horrendous when handling fuel. Their equipment cost and regulatory costs are high. In Calif. these prices are to be expected.
wannabe	posted 06-10-2012 01:19 PM ET (US) They are getting $4.25 a gallon on the water here in Toledo,Oh with 10% ethanol. I haven't paid too much attention to it since I didn't have a boat until last week. I thought they were still arguing about it whether to put it on the water. The 10% sticker was on the side of the pump. Drew
20dauntless	posted 06-10-2012 08:58 PM ET (US) I've purchased gas at numerous Canadian fuel docks in the last week and a half on my way from Anacortes to Alaska and have not yet seen prices higher than $6.00 USD per gallon. Here's what I've paid so far: Secret Cove Marina: 1.499 CAD/liter Lagoon Cove: 1.489 CAD/liter Sullivan Bay: 1.599 CAD/liter Port Hardy (Quartermaster Marina): 1.296 CAD/liter New Bella Bella: 1.42 CAD/liter Hartley Bay: 1.443 CAD/liter Prince Rupert: 1.149 CAD/liter
egres	posted 06-11-2012 02:41 PM ET (US) Yes, I know,it seems to be a bit confusing at times. From the "Imperial" gallon as opposed to the US gallon,(smaller) And experienced here through out the years an ever increasing price at the pump with a standardized measure of a Can gallon to having switched to the metric system a few years back.. And getting double whammy in cost by reducing the quantity as in liters and jacking up the price on the sold units from the get go. Nothing to really get bitter about but understanding that the increasing costs of fueling will deserve some thoughts in solutions . And for the not so familiar to the metric system. One Canadian gallon equal 4.55 Liters And as a round up number of $1.50/L time 4.55= $6.825 per Gal. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/ How_many_liters_in_Canada_does_it_take_to_make_a_gallon