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Treypescatorie posted 09-30-2013 06:56 PM ET (US)
I have a 2000 21 Conquest. I also have a 13 Sport, I find that I don't use the Conquest that much since I got the Sport. When I do use the Conquest on occasion, I am amazed by the difference; the Conquest feels huge and stable compared to the Sport. I also like to fish in the ocean once in a while, and I feel safe in the Conquest. Since I don't use the cabin anymore, I was thinking of selling the Conquest. Since I fish mostly, I was thinking about a center console, maybe in the 17-footer. I was thinking maybe a MONTAUK. I feel that if I sell the Conquest I might regret it some day. Any opinions?
elenakagan posted 09-30-2013 07:49 PM ET (US)
Counseling?? ask lhg.
PeteB88 posted 10-01-2013 10:43 AM ET (US)
Wow - very different boats. I have Outrage 17 and 13 and rarely use the 13. Living right next to often snotty Lake Michigan I wouldn't take the 13 out there very often. Nothing wrong with center console boats but I doubt you'd feel the sense of stability and comfort you have with the Conquest when things get choppy or rough. Do your thing.
HawaiianWhaler posted 10-02-2013 12:13 AM ET (US)
Just my 2¢ but if you don't desperately need the proceed$ from its sale, storage space for the boat is not a problem, and the admiral is not after you to reduce the fleet, then I'd keep the Conquest 21. Even though you might not use it often, it'll be there when you want it. You'll likely never find another pocket battleship like it if you sell it, certainly not from Whaler as they seem to be thinking larger boats for the Conquest model. Aloha.
pete r posted 10-02-2013 01:48 AM ET (US)
I've been in all sorts of smaller boats and I find there nothing compared to my 21' Conquest.
I don't think you are achieving much by selling her for a slightly smaller, lighter and less practical boat.
What if you want to include taking out a few friends.
Smaller boats suddendly shrink with a few guests on board.
The money invested in your Conquest is not a lot for what you achieve from a safety aspect too.
I find the Conquest is safe and easy to handle in most weather conditions.

I also think it is a simple uncomplicated boat which means it's a cheap boat to run.
martyn1075 posted 10-02-2013 02:53 AM ET (US)
It doesn't sound like your there yet to let go. You know when its time to fold. It feels right, or you have no choice. If you have the choice I would store if it fits within your budget. If it doesn't life can get complicated and it will feel likes its time to fold maybe thats where you sit not sure.
Martyn
Bella con23 posted 10-02-2013 08:09 AM ET (US)
Sell it and you'll live to regret it. Take it from someone who knows. Like HawaiianWhaler says, shelve it for awhile and let life play out for a season.
With three kids in college for the next couple of years, I don't see myself on the water for awhile. Furthermore, the money from the sale of my Conquest disappeared without really resolving any of my financial issues.
Think long and hard.
PeteB88 posted 10-02-2013 09:59 AM ET (US)
Man, if I had a Conquest I'd keep that baby for sure. Think of all you can do with it especially use the cuddy. It's an incredible boat. I get it, especially about the 13. I did use my 13 much at all last year but I took her out two weeks ago and was enchanted all over again. However, as a practical matter where I live, it's really an inland lakes or river boat. I'm just not going to take it out on Lake Michigan. That's why I have an Outrage 17 mainly for conditions where we live.
Perhaps the compromise is you go ahead and get that center console boat - Montauk or one like mine. I think a Montauk replaces the 13 for sure if you want to let that go. If it's fuel burn that's getting to you, unless ETEC you're going to burn fuel with a 90, 115 or 150. There is better economy w/ smaller boat/motor for sure.
tombro posted 10-02-2013 10:17 AM ET (US)
Keep her! I was forced to step down from a twin engine 25 foot Mako due to marriage, mortgage and kids. Was in a 13 foot tin boat for FIFTEEN YEARS. Yikes!
Now that I am in my comfortable 210 Ventura(since 2005), and back ocean fishing (instead of fishing shallow mudhole lakes in the tin boat), I would do anything to keep this one. Sellers remorse, guaranteed.
jimh posted 10-02-2013 10:55 AM ET (US)
Unless there is significant cost to keep the boat, like boat payments and storage payments, just keep it.
I have so much time invested in perfecting my present boat that I cannot imagine selling it.
Mambo Minnow posted 10-02-2013 03:43 PM ET (US)
I have a similar conundrum with my classic Montauk 17 and Conquest 21. I find I just don't have enough time to fully use two boats. It's either one or the other with a limited amount of recreation time.
One advantage is when the family wants to go out collectively, it's the Conquest. If it's just me after work, then it's the Montauk.
It does not cost me anything to store it on the trailers, so I think I will keep both. Eventually each one will be on opposite ends of the East Coast, so I won't have to worry about long trailerings on I-95.
Basshole posted 10-05-2013 12:41 PM ET (US)
Don't sell it! Sounds like a really bad idea...
macfam posted 10-06-2013 05:24 PM ET (US)
We have a 28, and a 13'. Same situation.. Two boats with completely different uses. They are SO different, yet really enjoy both. We also have a 8' inflatable to throw on the 28 with a Honda 2 hp.
All this enables so many options.
If you can afford it.....keep them both.
onlyawhaler posted 10-06-2013 07:11 PM ET (US)
Every Whaler I have sold, I have regretted doing it and it has resulted in just buying another.
You have two great boats for very different circumstances. If you enjoy those different "circumstances" keep them both
Sterling
Onlyawhaler
martyn1075 posted 10-06-2013 09:26 PM ET (US)
One thing that I have learned is a boat must fit your lifestyle at any given time. In life things can change so quickly a boat that works may not work a few years later. However sometimes we just learn this by doing a big circle in the boats we try for short periods to find the boat that is best.
I admire people who just buy one boat and know that is their limit the perfect choice and use it for almost a lifetime. How do they know?
If its too hard to keep for whatever reason whether its financial or simply not using it, its a sign that maybe the boat is not perfect after all. Money however has a way of solving some of these issues and if you can afford it then you always keep it for perhaps a time in your life where it makes sense.
Martyn
Destin Dauntless posted 10-07-2013 05:48 PM ET (US)
Want to swap your Conquest for my 2000 Dauntless 220 Center Console? I was out fishing in the Gulf in the build up to "Karen" last week and felt very safe.
Boat camping is something I haven't tried yet. And you could sell off the 13.
Marsh posted 10-07-2013 06:00 PM ET (US)
Another alternative: I'll trade you my 170 Montauk for your Conquest.
Already rigged for fishing, with outriggers, rod holders, trolling motor, GPS/depth finder/sonar...i'll even throw in all my tackle if you want it. I don't fish anymore.
tom976 posted 10-10-2013 02:45 PM ET (US)
Interesting post. I am sort of in the same boat (good pun) with the exception is mine is a 23' Conquest.
I've enjoyed my Conquest for the last few years but life hasn't given me enough time to enjoy her for the last 2 years. Early in the spring I am enjoying her with the Striper run on Long Island NY. For the rest of the summer we are doing different things. (Disney, Hershey etc) its a shame to use her every so often. I think I rather go for a 18 - 19" that I can trailer and use when the desire strikes vs. the expense of keeping a boat in a slip and almost forced to use. Trailering a 23' boat with my Tacoma might be interesting. Downside is that I would need to purchase a trailer for a few grand for that to happen.

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Author	Topic: To Sell A Boat
Treypescatorie	posted 09-30-2013 06:56 PM ET (US) I have a 2000 21 Conquest. I also have a 13 Sport, I find that I don't use the Conquest that much since I got the Sport. When I do use the Conquest on occasion, I am amazed by the difference; the Conquest feels huge and stable compared to the Sport. I also like to fish in the ocean once in a while, and I feel safe in the Conquest. Since I don't use the cabin anymore, I was thinking of selling the Conquest. Since I fish mostly, I was thinking about a center console, maybe in the 17-footer. I was thinking maybe a MONTAUK. I feel that if I sell the Conquest I might regret it some day. Any opinions?
elenakagan	posted 09-30-2013 07:49 PM ET (US) Counseling?? ask lhg.
PeteB88	posted 10-01-2013 10:43 AM ET (US) Wow - very different boats. I have Outrage 17 and 13 and rarely use the 13. Living right next to often snotty Lake Michigan I wouldn't take the 13 out there very often. Nothing wrong with center console boats but I doubt you'd feel the sense of stability and comfort you have with the Conquest when things get choppy or rough. Do your thing.
HawaiianWhaler	posted 10-02-2013 12:13 AM ET (US) Just my 2¢ but if you don't desperately need the proceed$ from its sale, storage space for the boat is not a problem, and the admiral is not after you to reduce the fleet, then I'd keep the Conquest 21. Even though you might not use it often, it'll be there when you want it. You'll likely never find another pocket battleship like it if you sell it, certainly not from Whaler as they seem to be thinking larger boats for the Conquest model. Aloha.
pete r	posted 10-02-2013 01:48 AM ET (US) I've been in all sorts of smaller boats and I find there nothing compared to my 21' Conquest. I don't think you are achieving much by selling her for a slightly smaller, lighter and less practical boat. What if you want to include taking out a few friends. Smaller boats suddendly shrink with a few guests on board. The money invested in your Conquest is not a lot for what you achieve from a safety aspect too. I find the Conquest is safe and easy to handle in most weather conditions. I also think it is a simple uncomplicated boat which means it's a cheap boat to run.
martyn1075	posted 10-02-2013 02:53 AM ET (US) It doesn't sound like your there yet to let go. You know when its time to fold. It feels right, or you have no choice. If you have the choice I would store if it fits within your budget. If it doesn't life can get complicated and it will feel likes its time to fold maybe thats where you sit not sure. Martyn
Bella con23	posted 10-02-2013 08:09 AM ET (US) Sell it and you'll live to regret it. Take it from someone who knows. Like HawaiianWhaler says, shelve it for awhile and let life play out for a season. With three kids in college for the next couple of years, I don't see myself on the water for awhile. Furthermore, the money from the sale of my Conquest disappeared without really resolving any of my financial issues. Think long and hard.
PeteB88	posted 10-02-2013 09:59 AM ET (US) Man, if I had a Conquest I'd keep that baby for sure. Think of all you can do with it especially use the cuddy. It's an incredible boat. I get it, especially about the 13. I did use my 13 much at all last year but I took her out two weeks ago and was enchanted all over again. However, as a practical matter where I live, it's really an inland lakes or river boat. I'm just not going to take it out on Lake Michigan. That's why I have an Outrage 17 mainly for conditions where we live. Perhaps the compromise is you go ahead and get that center console boat - Montauk or one like mine. I think a Montauk replaces the 13 for sure if you want to let that go. If it's fuel burn that's getting to you, unless ETEC you're going to burn fuel with a 90, 115 or 150. There is better economy w/ smaller boat/motor for sure.
tombro	posted 10-02-2013 10:17 AM ET (US) Keep her! I was forced to step down from a twin engine 25 foot Mako due to marriage, mortgage and kids. Was in a 13 foot tin boat for FIFTEEN YEARS. Yikes! Now that I am in my comfortable 210 Ventura(since 2005), and back ocean fishing (instead of fishing shallow mudhole lakes in the tin boat), I would do anything to keep this one. Sellers remorse, guaranteed.
jimh	posted 10-02-2013 10:55 AM ET (US) Unless there is significant cost to keep the boat, like boat payments and storage payments, just keep it. I have so much time invested in perfecting my present boat that I cannot imagine selling it.
Mambo Minnow	posted 10-02-2013 03:43 PM ET (US) I have a similar conundrum with my classic Montauk 17 and Conquest 21. I find I just don't have enough time to fully use two boats. It's either one or the other with a limited amount of recreation time. One advantage is when the family wants to go out collectively, it's the Conquest. If it's just me after work, then it's the Montauk. It does not cost me anything to store it on the trailers, so I think I will keep both. Eventually each one will be on opposite ends of the East Coast, so I won't have to worry about long trailerings on I-95.
Basshole	posted 10-05-2013 12:41 PM ET (US) Don't sell it! Sounds like a really bad idea...
macfam	posted 10-06-2013 05:24 PM ET (US) We have a 28, and a 13'. Same situation.. Two boats with completely different uses. They are SO different, yet really enjoy both. We also have a 8' inflatable to throw on the 28 with a Honda 2 hp. All this enables so many options. If you can afford it.....keep them both.
onlyawhaler	posted 10-06-2013 07:11 PM ET (US) Every Whaler I have sold, I have regretted doing it and it has resulted in just buying another. You have two great boats for very different circumstances. If you enjoy those different "circumstances" keep them both Sterling Onlyawhaler
martyn1075	posted 10-06-2013 09:26 PM ET (US) One thing that I have learned is a boat must fit your lifestyle at any given time. In life things can change so quickly a boat that works may not work a few years later. However sometimes we just learn this by doing a big circle in the boats we try for short periods to find the boat that is best. I admire people who just buy one boat and know that is their limit the perfect choice and use it for almost a lifetime. How do they know? If its too hard to keep for whatever reason whether its financial or simply not using it, its a sign that maybe the boat is not perfect after all. Money however has a way of solving some of these issues and if you can afford it then you always keep it for perhaps a time in your life where it makes sense. Martyn
Destin Dauntless	posted 10-07-2013 05:48 PM ET (US) Want to swap your Conquest for my 2000 Dauntless 220 Center Console? I was out fishing in the Gulf in the build up to "Karen" last week and felt very safe. Boat camping is something I haven't tried yet. And you could sell off the 13.
Marsh	posted 10-07-2013 06:00 PM ET (US) Another alternative: I'll trade you my 170 Montauk for your Conquest. Already rigged for fishing, with outriggers, rod holders, trolling motor, GPS/depth finder/sonar...i'll even throw in all my tackle if you want it. I don't fish anymore.
tom976	posted 10-10-2013 02:45 PM ET (US) Interesting post. I am sort of in the same boat (good pun) with the exception is mine is a 23' Conquest. I've enjoyed my Conquest for the last few years but life hasn't given me enough time to enjoy her for the last 2 years. Early in the spring I am enjoying her with the Striper run on Long Island NY. For the rest of the summer we are doing different things. (Disney, Hershey etc) its a shame to use her every so often. I think I rather go for a 18 - 19" that I can trailer and use when the desire strikes vs. the expense of keeping a boat in a slip and almost forced to use. Trailering a 23' boat with my Tacoma might be interesting. Downside is that I would need to purchase a trailer for a few grand for that to happen.