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Hal Watkins posted 10-23-2013 09:18 AM ET (US)
Leaving my 205 Eastport in TX for the winter. Please share your experience with shrink wrap storage. What might I pay? Thanx. Hal
K Albus posted 10-23-2013 08:38 PM ET (US)
My local Boston Whaler dealership has a package deal for winterization, shrink wrap, and outdoor storage for $520 for boats from 21 to 24 feet. The a la carte prices are $110 for winterizing an outboard over 100 hp; $215 for shrink wrapping a 21-foot boat; and $225 for outdoor winter storage. Winter storage is October through May. Not Texas, but hopefully it's helpful.
I keep my boat stored indoors, without shrink wrap, for the winter. It costs a little more, but I like to believe that keeping in indoors results in less UV damage to the finish, especially over the long run.
saumon posted 10-23-2013 08:40 PM ET (US)
$10/ft here too (Montréal, Qc, Canada) for shrink wrapping.
Mambo Minnow posted 10-23-2013 10:28 PM ET (US)
I pay $13/ft for shrink wrapping same day service for a 21 Conquest. I do all the other winterization tasks myself and store on my property.
Hal Watkins posted 10-23-2013 11:48 PM ET (US)
I have a quote of $175 for the 205 Eastport, shrink wrap only, Texarkana, TX.
Side bar: Just spent six hours Monday and Tuesday cruising Toledo Bend Lake which borders Texas and Louisiana. Air and water temperature in the mid 70's.
PeteB88 posted 10-24-2013 10:25 AM ET (US)
I don't do it. <
Hal Watkins posted 10-24-2013 12:40 PM ET (US)
Pete--so, you put your boat in a building, under a boat cover or it just sits outside?
What are the negatives of shrink wrapping?
jimp posted 10-24-2013 01:29 PM ET (US)
Two negatives to shrink wrapping are annual cost and condensation if not vented properly.
JimP
hauptjm posted 10-24-2013 01:38 PM ET (US)
Why shrink wrap in Texas?
jimh posted 10-24-2013 01:53 PM ET (US)
ASIDE: Hal--it is good to hear from you. I know you have been doing a lot of traveling. You should write a brief narrative of your trip and its boating for us to read in the TRIPS/RENDEZVOUS section.
jimp posted 10-24-2013 02:36 PM ET (US)
Why shrink wrap in Texas?
Best guess is to protect the decks, etc from the sun.
Before I bought my 1990 Revenge 22 - W.T. the previous owner let her sit, unprotected (no cover), in the sun in Nevada for two years. The topsides are heavily oxidized.
JimP
Mambo Minnow posted 10-26-2013 12:44 PM ET (US)
It can get cold in parts of the South. BoatUS reports most freeze damage related claims from there, not the North where folks know how to winterize.
I have a good mooring cover, but bracing and puddling is an issue when it's stored two hours from where I live. Shrink wrap alllows me greater peace of mind and less drives in the middle of winter to inspect/adjust a cover.
PeteB88 posted 10-26-2013 05:44 PM ET (US)
Negatives of shrink wrapping? I guess expense (relative) and lots of material that I'm not sure has use after it's removed - Does it? I was chair of a small boat club in Central Mich for awhile and advocated buying a shrink wrap system but was out voted. All of those boats were stored outside, many pontoons, so at the time some of us thought it was a good idea.
I have always stored the Outrage inside generally way late fall and out as early as possible - I get a good price. I really like the facility and the crew there and I have access anytime to do work on the boat and they usually put it in the heated section - or at least it's not very cold were she's stored. I always seem to have a list of stuff I plan to do during the winter and don't get to any of it. Maybe this year.
The 13 has been outside a few winters and last winter in the garage. When she's outside she's under a Mills mooring cover w/ midline posts, tent style, and I cover that w/ poly canvas and use grommets and clothesline rope to nearly wrap the whole boat - works fine. I've considered gluing up a PVC pipe frame to take some of the snow load off but it's not been an issue so far.
I have also thought about keeping the 17 here, outside, this winter - not sure, we're keeping her ready for some cold weather walleye fishing -
So I guess I just get along every year pretty okay and keep the expenses to a minimum.
So no excuse not to shrink wrap but I'd hate to see all that poly stuff get thrown into a land fill.
Hoosier posted 10-26-2013 10:00 PM ET (US)
How about using one of those metal car ports that come as kits? That should solve the recycling problem while keeping the snow off for more than one season. It works in the summer, it provides shade too. When you look at their cost vs two years worth of shrink wrap it's a pretty cost effective solution.
PeteB88 posted 10-27-2013 09:56 PM ET (US)
Agree Hoosier.
Plotman posted 10-27-2013 10:42 PM ET (US)
My boat has been outside all winter under shrink wrap for the last 4 winters or so.
Frankly, I have far less spring clean up than in the years when I kept it indoor under the mooring cover.
~13 per foot is very close to what I pay.
I just made the jump and ordered a shrink wrap gun. The plastic is pretty cheap (enough to do the whaler 5-6 time will be under $100), and I figure it will pay for itself fairly quickly.
I will wrap the 22 and the 15 (normally the 15 lives under a mooring cover with a sacrificial Home Depot Tarp over that, as well as a Hot Tub and Golf Cart.
Our local materials recovery center handles plastic 1 through 6, and the boat plastic can be recycled there.
I have experience in a previous job wrapping pallets, so I think the learning curve will be fairly short.
The key, as others have said, is making sure to include vents. In texas, Id make sure to use white rather than blue plastic.
macfam posted 10-28-2013 07:01 AM ET (US)
With our 28', we've used shrink wrap for the past 7 seasons. I prefer the 7 mil WHITE vs. BLUE or OPAQUE. White stays a steady temperature compared to the others. With proper ventilation, and an air circulator from West Marine, it stays dry with no moisture accumulation. I've re-used the vents (10) and zipper doors (2) for most of those years.
There is easy access to get inside and perform maintenance, repairs etc.
Also, the stuff is tough! The wrap withstands, ice, snow, rain, and screaming Cape Cod winter winds from Nov thru Early May with no signs of stress. Boat is in the driveway, stays plugged into the house, batteries are trickle-charging, ventilator runs continuously.
Local independent guy, I assist with the set-up and labor, $ 9/ft. $250 per year. Great peace of mind. It's worth consideration. Some of the local marinas are charging DOUBLE that price
The 13' Super Sport goes into In-laws garage........very nicely.
hauptjm posted 10-28-2013 01:17 PM ET (US)

quote:
Why shrink wrap in Texas?
Best guess is to protect the decks, etc from the sun.
Before I bought my 1990 Revenge 22 - W.T. the previous owner let her sit, unprotected (no cover), in the sun in Nevada for two years. The topsides are heavily oxidized.
JimP
I guess I should have expounded further. A decent cover should handle your concerns for "weathering." The shrink wrap will certainly benefit the folks with severe winter weather, but I'm not sure why Texas! Just curious.
PeteB88 posted 10-28-2013 03:26 PM ET (US)
Good to hear stuff is recyclable
PeteB88 posted 10-28-2013 03:27 PM ET (US)
Plotman - if recyclable and DYI is cost effective for your two boats, I might consider a system too. Where did you source your equipment? Very interested now.
EJO posted 10-31-2013 02:23 PM ET (US)
PeteB88 I had a friend who bought all his supplies from Jamestown Distributors they also have several youtube videos showing you how. here is one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg7R8K-v76A
Also Dr. Shrink, but if i were you do a search and find the one with the most economical shipping/equipment.
A motorized ventilator is a must.
Plotman posted 11-02-2013 09:20 AM ET (US)
I bought a shrinkfast gun from a local industrial supply house.
The film came from U-Line (uline.com), which is a large commercial packaging supplier.
It's pretty generic stuff.

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Author	Topic: Shrink Wrap
Hal Watkins	posted 10-23-2013 09:18 AM ET (US) Leaving my 205 Eastport in TX for the winter. Please share your experience with shrink wrap storage. What might I pay? Thanx. Hal
K Albus	posted 10-23-2013 08:38 PM ET (US) My local Boston Whaler dealership has a package deal for winterization, shrink wrap, and outdoor storage for $520 for boats from 21 to 24 feet. The a la carte prices are $110 for winterizing an outboard over 100 hp; $215 for shrink wrapping a 21-foot boat; and $225 for outdoor winter storage. Winter storage is October through May. Not Texas, but hopefully it's helpful. I keep my boat stored indoors, without shrink wrap, for the winter. It costs a little more, but I like to believe that keeping in indoors results in less UV damage to the finish, especially over the long run.
saumon	posted 10-23-2013 08:40 PM ET (US) $10/ft here too (Montréal, Qc, Canada) for shrink wrapping.
Mambo Minnow	posted 10-23-2013 10:28 PM ET (US) I pay $13/ft for shrink wrapping same day service for a 21 Conquest. I do all the other winterization tasks myself and store on my property.
Hal Watkins	posted 10-23-2013 11:48 PM ET (US) I have a quote of $175 for the 205 Eastport, shrink wrap only, Texarkana, TX. Side bar: Just spent six hours Monday and Tuesday cruising Toledo Bend Lake which borders Texas and Louisiana. Air and water temperature in the mid 70's.
PeteB88	posted 10-24-2013 10:25 AM ET (US) I don't do it. <
Hal Watkins	posted 10-24-2013 12:40 PM ET (US) Pete--so, you put your boat in a building, under a boat cover or it just sits outside? What are the negatives of shrink wrapping?
jimp	posted 10-24-2013 01:29 PM ET (US) Two negatives to shrink wrapping are annual cost and condensation if not vented properly. JimP
hauptjm	posted 10-24-2013 01:38 PM ET (US) Why shrink wrap in Texas?
jimh	posted 10-24-2013 01:53 PM ET (US) ASIDE: Hal--it is good to hear from you. I know you have been doing a lot of traveling. You should write a brief narrative of your trip and its boating for us to read in the TRIPS/RENDEZVOUS section.
jimp	posted 10-24-2013 02:36 PM ET (US) Why shrink wrap in Texas? Best guess is to protect the decks, etc from the sun. Before I bought my 1990 Revenge 22 - W.T. the previous owner let her sit, unprotected (no cover), in the sun in Nevada for two years. The topsides are heavily oxidized. JimP
Mambo Minnow	posted 10-26-2013 12:44 PM ET (US) It can get cold in parts of the South. BoatUS reports most freeze damage related claims from there, not the North where folks know how to winterize. I have a good mooring cover, but bracing and puddling is an issue when it's stored two hours from where I live. Shrink wrap alllows me greater peace of mind and less drives in the middle of winter to inspect/adjust a cover.
PeteB88	posted 10-26-2013 05:44 PM ET (US) Negatives of shrink wrapping? I guess expense (relative) and lots of material that I'm not sure has use after it's removed - Does it? I was chair of a small boat club in Central Mich for awhile and advocated buying a shrink wrap system but was out voted. All of those boats were stored outside, many pontoons, so at the time some of us thought it was a good idea. I have always stored the Outrage inside generally way late fall and out as early as possible - I get a good price. I really like the facility and the crew there and I have access anytime to do work on the boat and they usually put it in the heated section - or at least it's not very cold were she's stored. I always seem to have a list of stuff I plan to do during the winter and don't get to any of it. Maybe this year. The 13 has been outside a few winters and last winter in the garage. When she's outside she's under a Mills mooring cover w/ midline posts, tent style, and I cover that w/ poly canvas and use grommets and clothesline rope to nearly wrap the whole boat - works fine. I've considered gluing up a PVC pipe frame to take some of the snow load off but it's not been an issue so far. I have also thought about keeping the 17 here, outside, this winter - not sure, we're keeping her ready for some cold weather walleye fishing - So I guess I just get along every year pretty okay and keep the expenses to a minimum. So no excuse not to shrink wrap but I'd hate to see all that poly stuff get thrown into a land fill.
Hoosier	posted 10-26-2013 10:00 PM ET (US) How about using one of those metal car ports that come as kits? That should solve the recycling problem while keeping the snow off for more than one season. It works in the summer, it provides shade too. When you look at their cost vs two years worth of shrink wrap it's a pretty cost effective solution.
PeteB88	posted 10-27-2013 09:56 PM ET (US) Agree Hoosier.
Plotman	posted 10-27-2013 10:42 PM ET (US) My boat has been outside all winter under shrink wrap for the last 4 winters or so. Frankly, I have far less spring clean up than in the years when I kept it indoor under the mooring cover. ~13 per foot is very close to what I pay. I just made the jump and ordered a shrink wrap gun. The plastic is pretty cheap (enough to do the whaler 5-6 time will be under $100), and I figure it will pay for itself fairly quickly. I will wrap the 22 and the 15 (normally the 15 lives under a mooring cover with a sacrificial Home Depot Tarp over that, as well as a Hot Tub and Golf Cart. Our local materials recovery center handles plastic 1 through 6, and the boat plastic can be recycled there. I have experience in a previous job wrapping pallets, so I think the learning curve will be fairly short. The key, as others have said, is making sure to include vents. In texas, Id make sure to use white rather than blue plastic.
macfam	posted 10-28-2013 07:01 AM ET (US) With our 28', we've used shrink wrap for the past 7 seasons. I prefer the 7 mil WHITE vs. BLUE or OPAQUE. White stays a steady temperature compared to the others. With proper ventilation, and an air circulator from West Marine, it stays dry with no moisture accumulation. I've re-used the vents (10) and zipper doors (2) for most of those years. There is easy access to get inside and perform maintenance, repairs etc. Also, the stuff is tough! The wrap withstands, ice, snow, rain, and screaming Cape Cod winter winds from Nov thru Early May with no signs of stress. Boat is in the driveway, stays plugged into the house, batteries are trickle-charging, ventilator runs continuously. Local independent guy, I assist with the set-up and labor, $ 9/ft. $250 per year. Great peace of mind. It's worth consideration. Some of the local marinas are charging DOUBLE that price The 13' Super Sport goes into In-laws garage........very nicely.
hauptjm	posted 10-28-2013 01:17 PM ET (US) quote: Why shrink wrap in Texas? Best guess is to protect the decks, etc from the sun. Before I bought my 1990 Revenge 22 - W.T. the previous owner let her sit, unprotected (no cover), in the sun in Nevada for two years. The topsides are heavily oxidized. JimP I guess I should have expounded further. A decent cover should handle your concerns for "weathering." The shrink wrap will certainly benefit the folks with severe winter weather, but I'm not sure why Texas! Just curious.
PeteB88	posted 10-28-2013 03:26 PM ET (US) Good to hear stuff is recyclable
PeteB88	posted 10-28-2013 03:27 PM ET (US) Plotman - if recyclable and DYI is cost effective for your two boats, I might consider a system too. Where did you source your equipment? Very interested now.
EJO	posted 10-31-2013 02:23 PM ET (US) PeteB88 I had a friend who bought all his supplies from Jamestown Distributors they also have several youtube videos showing you how. here is one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg7R8K-v76A Also Dr. Shrink, but if i were you do a search and find the one with the most economical shipping/equipment. A motorized ventilator is a must.
Plotman	posted 11-02-2013 09:20 AM ET (US) I bought a shrinkfast gun from a local industrial supply house. The film came from U-Line (uline.com), which is a large commercial packaging supplier. It's pretty generic stuff.