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kiwitodd posted 02-21-2014 01:46 PM ET (US)
Hi iam looking to buy a 18-19 whaler and looking for advice,i understand there are a few differences between them but there are none to look at readly here in new Zealand, looking to use the boat for waterskiing,fishing diving etc
any and all advice welcome,cheers Todd
Teak Oil posted 02-21-2014 07:35 PM ET (US)
Well, of course everything depends on your budget.
Dollar for dollar, there is no better boat for the money than a classic 17' or 18' Outrage.
If you want to up your budget a bit then a newer 190 Montauk is also a nice option
kiwitodd posted 02-22-2014 02:00 AM ET (US)
Budget up to 15 k,or so
mkelly posted 02-22-2014 02:24 AM ET (US)
I've owned a 17' Montauk & now have a 19' Outrage for the last ten years. The Outrage is far more boat than the Montauk but I'm not skimping on the Montauk. It all depends on what you're looking to do and as importantly, the water you'll be running in. Heavier, sharper water you will want more boat. If you're an Outrage fan I've always wanted to upgrade to the coveted 21'....also look into the dual console series as it's more conducive to taking more people out comfortably. Email me if you want to expand the conversation
Jefecinco posted 02-22-2014 10:11 AM ET (US)
Todd,
If the boat is for salt water use the larger question is where the majority of use will be.
If you plan to use the boat exclusively in protected bays and harbors with an occasional trip outside to fish near shore waters a smaller boat with a less pronounced "V" bottom shape, such as a Montauk should serve you well.
A boat for mostly near and off shore fishing where conditions can quickly deteriorate is another matter. A proper offshore fishing boat should have a more pronounced "V" bottom shape to allow decent progress in rough conditions. Otherwise a great offshore fishing experience can very quickly become quite unpleasant. An Outrage would be a far more suitable boat for the purpose and the largest that can be afforded the better.
Many fishermen would recommend twin engine power for offshore fishing. In the case of old tech two stroke engines that may be important but for a newer design four stroke engine I believe a single engine is reliable enough for offshore use. Opinions on the subject are plentiful.
Butch
Don SSDD posted 02-22-2014 01:15 PM ET (US)
In addition to what sort of conditions will you operate in, how many people will you frequently have in the boat? How much weight will you be hauling?
Don

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Author	Topic: virgin whaler buyer
kiwitodd	posted 02-21-2014 01:46 PM ET (US) Hi iam looking to buy a 18-19 whaler and looking for advice,i understand there are a few differences between them but there are none to look at readly here in new Zealand, looking to use the boat for waterskiing,fishing diving etc any and all advice welcome,cheers Todd
Teak Oil	posted 02-21-2014 07:35 PM ET (US) Well, of course everything depends on your budget. Dollar for dollar, there is no better boat for the money than a classic 17' or 18' Outrage. If you want to up your budget a bit then a newer 190 Montauk is also a nice option
kiwitodd	posted 02-22-2014 02:00 AM ET (US) Budget up to 15 k,or so
mkelly	posted 02-22-2014 02:24 AM ET (US) I've owned a 17' Montauk & now have a 19' Outrage for the last ten years. The Outrage is far more boat than the Montauk but I'm not skimping on the Montauk. It all depends on what you're looking to do and as importantly, the water you'll be running in. Heavier, sharper water you will want more boat. If you're an Outrage fan I've always wanted to upgrade to the coveted 21'....also look into the dual console series as it's more conducive to taking more people out comfortably. Email me if you want to expand the conversation
Jefecinco	posted 02-22-2014 10:11 AM ET (US) Todd, If the boat is for salt water use the larger question is where the majority of use will be. If you plan to use the boat exclusively in protected bays and harbors with an occasional trip outside to fish near shore waters a smaller boat with a less pronounced "V" bottom shape, such as a Montauk should serve you well. A boat for mostly near and off shore fishing where conditions can quickly deteriorate is another matter. A proper offshore fishing boat should have a more pronounced "V" bottom shape to allow decent progress in rough conditions. Otherwise a great offshore fishing experience can very quickly become quite unpleasant. An Outrage would be a far more suitable boat for the purpose and the largest that can be afforded the better. Many fishermen would recommend twin engine power for offshore fishing. In the case of old tech two stroke engines that may be important but for a newer design four stroke engine I believe a single engine is reliable enough for offshore use. Opinions on the subject are plentiful. Butch
Don SSDD	posted 02-22-2014 01:15 PM ET (US) In addition to what sort of conditions will you operate in, how many people will you frequently have in the boat? How much weight will you be hauling? Don