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R I Whaler posted 05-29-2014 07:06 PM ET (US)   Profile for R I Whaler   Send Email to R I Whaler  
Hi all. It's been a while since I've posted. I'm in Rhode Island and Boston. I have a 1987 Outrage 20 and my 20-year-old son has a 1987 Montauk that we restored together. He enlisted in the Air Force a year ago and has been assigned to Charleston AFB when he completes his training in the Fall. I couldn't be happier to have him on the East Coast and on a beautiful waterway. I hope to trailer his boat down to him once he's settled. I know nothing of the area in terms of boating and I am looking for any and all advice available on regulations, recommendations, launch areas, what to avoid, and etc. Thanks,

Mike

jcdawg83 posted 05-30-2014 09:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for jcdawg83    
Boating in Charleston is wonderful. There are a number of waterfront restaurants/bars in Shem creek and also a nice place up the Wapoo cut. There is a very nice public ramp on the James Island connector and another ramp on Shem creek. The James Island ramp is nicer and the parking area is much better than Shem creek, but the Shem creek ramp is closer to more restaurants and the ocean.

As long as you have a chart plotter or a good chart and know how navigational markers work, there is really not a lot to avoid. Shallow water is the biggest concern but the bottom is generally sandy, so even if you hit bottom you probably won't do any damage beyond scuffing paint off of your skeg. Obviously, you need to keep an eye out for ships coming and going, but if you manage to hit one or get hit you probably deserve your fate since they move at about 5 knots in the harbor and are very easy to avoid.

You can ride out to Fort Sumter and see where the yankees started the War Between the States or enjoy the beach (and a lot of great scenery, wink, wink) on the back side of Morris Island. The ICW runs behind Isle of Palms and Sullivans Island and there are a few restaurants on the water on the back side of Isle of Palms.

There is a Coast Guard station in Charleston Harbor so you will see a lot their presence. As long as you aren't out acting a fool they generally just wave as they pass by in their rigid hull inflatables. The SC DNR sometimes show up and they are bigger jerks than the Coast Guard. They [must have been] picked on mercilessly in school. Even when they do the cursory life jacket, signaling device, fire extinguisher, etc inspection they seem to be in a perpetual bad mood, like they have sand in their underwear. Luckily, they aren't exactly abundant.

A Montauk is a great boat for the Charleston area. I think you and he will love the area.

Sebash4 posted 05-30-2014 01:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sebash4  Send Email to Sebash4     
You will want to relocate to Charleston after you've been there a couple of days on the water.

If you're downtown, try the High Cotton hotel brunch on East Bay Street, it's great !!1

blacksmithdog posted 06-02-2014 09:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for blacksmithdog  Send Email to blacksmithdog     
There's a lot of great water to explore in the Charleston area. Weekends are extremely busy though. Some of the places we like are:

Launch at Remley's Point go by the aircraft carrier Yorktown, each lunch on Shem Creek, go out by Fort Sumter.

Launch at Folly beach, go south and beach the boat at Kiawah Island or go north and beach the boat on the backside of Morris Island.

Launch at Station Creek below Beaufort, go out to Trenchard's Inlet and beach on the north side.

jimh posted 06-02-2014 09:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
We have twice visited the Carolinas for some trailer boating. On one trip we arrived on a Sunday, and did not get the boat launched until Monday. We had the boat ramp to ourselves. On the following Saturday it was time to leave. I drove the boat and Chris drove the truck and trailer, and we met at the nearby boat ramp, a few miles away. I don't know if there was some special fishing season starting up, but I have never seen so much congestion at a boat ramp. The place was packed with trucks and trailer, and they spilled out from the ramp parking lot onto the side of the road for about a half-mile in either direction. Apparently trailer boaters in the Carolinas like to get out on Saturday.
jcdawg83 posted 06-02-2014 10:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for jcdawg83    
Jim, the reason the ramps are so crowded on Saturdays is that most people work Monday through Friday.
jimh posted 06-04-2014 09:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Having Saturday and Sunday off used to be the norm, but these days I don't think it is as common as it once was. A lot of businesses now run seven days a week. One study shows that 35-percent of Americans have to work on Saturday or Sunday. Maybe in South Carolina things are run at a more genteel pace.
whalersailer posted 06-12-2014 01:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersailer  Send Email to whalersailer     
Great thread and timely for me.

We will be in Charleston for a couple of days 2 weeks from now. We are towing our 1996 Outrage 19 from MN throughout the SE for a 2 week RV/Boating vacation. Fort Sumpter is on our list and we are really looking forward to experiencing the area. Our prior stop will be Hilton Head for 3 days.

Cheers!

-WS

wezie posted 06-13-2014 01:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for wezie  Send Email to wezie     
Best food. Seems that the cooks are more interested in preparing good food than in making some weird personal statement with their offerings, as in Austin.
I enjoyed our visit last spring.
Powergroove803 posted 06-19-2014 01:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Powergroove803  Send Email to Powergroove803     
I live in SC and boat out of Charleston and Edisto. 2 weeks ago we stayed on Folly beach and used the local ramp on Folly Creek and headed out(south) to what we call the "the spit", its the covergence of the Stono river, the Folly river, and the Atlantic ocean. Its a great place to pull up on the sand bars and hang out all day. if you play the tides right you can kayak out there at receding tide and hang out on the sand bars, then ride the incoming tide back to the dock withut much paddling. lots of dolphin and good fishing in the marshes there as well.
Anyway, we took the Folly to the Stono then up to the Wapoo cut and into Charleston harbor. We crusied under the bridge then up to Shem creek for lunch and back home, all together around 6 hrs with many fishing stops along the way.
very nice cruise, probably around 20+ miles.
Lots to see in Charleston on the water, and a good GPS with updated data is all you really need to navigate around the creeks and harbor.
Folly is great place to stay if you get a house, bypass the hotels, and check out Berts Red and White, its a hippie grocery store, nothing to look at, but they make great "to-go" food and homemade beer and wine.

From a S Carolina boy, dont go to Myrtle Beach unless you are there to golf. People from SC go to the beach at Edisto and Folly, and my personal favorite is Hunting Island State park in Beaufort. Try to hit it during shrimp season, you wont be sorry.

While Im doing a SC PSA, if you want a good mountain trip, Devils Fork state park on lake Jocassee is pretty much a post card. Take your Whaler and park it at your campsite, there are 9 waterfalls and plenty of places to pull up to and swim or hike bake up the creeks.
Were headed to kayak the Chatooga(home of banjo music if you know what I mean) this weekend, another must see adventure trip for kayakers and canoers. Its only a few miles from Devils Fork.
Enjoy

knothead posted 06-20-2014 01:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for knothead  Send Email to knothead     
Powergroove,

When you're in the area of Lake Jocassee check out Gorges State Park up in Sapphire, NC. It encompasses the Horsepasture River which is one of the rivers feeding into Lake Jocassee. Hike down the Horsepasture and you can find many places to tube and slide around in the river, but beware of sliding over the 200' Rainbow Falls. Hiking down that river is amazing. Also, a little further down the road from Gorges State Park is Whitewater Falls, reputed to be the highest waterfall in the East. The Whitewater River also feeds Lake Jocassee. And while you're there hike up Whiteside Mountain over near Cashiers, and see the sheer cliff on the south side, overlooking the headwaters of the Chatooga River. All are a great day trip from Devils Fork.

I spent many days of my mis-spent youth rock climbing and kyacking in the area.

regards---knothead

SC Joe posted 06-23-2014 02:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for SC Joe  Send Email to SC Joe     
By my count, there are 5 boat-available restaurants on Shem creek:

Reds
RB's
Waters Edge
Vickery's
Shem Creek Bar and Grill

Having eaten at all of these, I would only drink beer and people watch at Red's (food is not good) and Shem Creek Bar and grill's food is horrible.

Recently, stand up paddle boarding and Kayak rentals have taken over Shem Creek. On any given weekend, you will have to navigate in tight quarters not only with other boats, shrimp boats, and commercial fishermen, but hoards of people who have never been on any boat before, attempting to learn to paddle board or kayak. IOW, I'd avoid Shem Creek by boat. I put in there this weekend and it was ridiculous.

For the rest of Charleston, I can only think of a handful of water accessible restaurants:

Charleston Crab house (Wappoo Cut)
Morgan Creek Grill (IOP/Wild Dunes)
California Dreaming (West Ashley)
The Boathouse at Breach Inlet (between Sullivans Island and IOP) used to be water accessible, but I don't know if it still is. It is a nicer place and I probably wouldn't go there had I been fishing or boating all day.

jcdawg83 posted 06-23-2014 03:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for jcdawg83    
SC Joe, can you get to The Wreck from Shem creek now? They used to have something of a dock, but it was marginal at best. I have always had good food there even if the decor is not too fancy.

My recent experience has been that pretty much all of the places on Shem Creek have mediocre at best food and generally poor food. The beer drinking and girl watching is the draw for me in Shem Creek.

You are correct about the paddle boards and kayaks, they are becoming a serious problem. Trying to pull up to a dock and maneuver around the other boats coming and going, the commercial boats and the paddle boards with teenagers from Ohio who are learning to negotiate their boards and falling in because they are scared of the boats approaching them makes for some tense moments.

SC Joe posted 06-24-2014 10:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for SC Joe  Send Email to SC Joe     
jcdawg83, I'm not sure about access to The Wreck from the water. If it is available--it wouldn't be easy. I past by it Sunday early morning and was wondering how one might get there as it was blocked by shrimp boats (and one boat that was sunk). The shrimp boaters don't like folks in pleasure craft, much less to raft up to them. So there is that as well.

I haven't been to the Wreck since the early 1999 or 2000. Back then it was cash only (no credit cards at all), with cold boiled peanuts as an appetizer and beer was served in 8 oz. Solo cups. Plus, the only thing that wasn't fried on their menu was boiled shrimp. Add to that the high prices (for what you get), the broken plastic garden chairs to sit in, and the cracked/busted concrete floor, and I never had a reason to go back. And much like Hyman's Seafood downtown, many tourists seem to think that is where the locals go eat, so I stay away.

I've always wondered why in a town surrounded by (and sometimes filled with) water, we don't have more boat accessible places to eat. It must be a large legal liability or something. Someone with a *large* pot of cash should turn Castle Pinckney in the middle of the harbor into a restaurant/hotel. It would be centrally located, and only available by boat. And also maybe then the tourists would finally figure out that its not Ft. Sumter.

dnh posted 06-24-2014 01:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for dnh  Send Email to dnh     
I concur about the Shem Creek restaurants. A far as Charleston restaurants on the water, I have personally taken a boat to eat at all of the restaurants listed below:

- California Dreamin in front of Ripley Light Marina has docks that would accommodate Whalers (little water at low tide) (chain restaurant, good food)

- The Variety Store Restaurant at City Marina has docks that can be used to eat at the Variety Store. The best way to do this is simply tie your Whaler up to the dinghy dock while you eat. (long time classic restaurant, laid back, good food). There is also a very large convenience store directly behind the Variety Store. I just tied my boat up and walked there a few weekends ago to get some items I needed.

- Morgan Creek Grill at Isle of Palms marina is located about 25 feet from the Intracoastal Waterway and is easy to dock at any tide, also a ramp is located there (pay) (bar on third floor, restaurant first and second). Fancier than the two above but good food.

- The Boathouse located on Breach Inlet is on the water, and I have docked there many times and eaten in my Whaler. There is no official docking, but there is plenty of docking at the marina right in front of it, and no one cares. You just need the 4 digit code to get out, which they will tell you when you call. Great fish, good food, also more expensive than other two.
- Shem Creek has Water's Edge, Reds, R.B.s, Vickerys, and Shem Creek Bar and Grill. Of these, Vickery's (chain) has the most reliable food. It does not have official docking. Water's Edge has a good outside bar scene and decent appetizers. Red's I offer no comment on food, same with R.B.'s. Shem Creek Bar & Grill has great "macho nachos" and that's all I will comment on for food.

- The (Charleston) Crabhouse is located right near the Wappoo Drawbridge. No comment on food.

- Bowen's Island Restaurant is great off of Folly. I have docked there and eaten many times. However, navigating to it is not particularly easy at its off the beaten path.

- For general beauty and boating without huge crowds, my recommendation is to find some landing and promptly head on the inside of Morris Island back behind James Island and Folly. You are going to need someone to show you around as to where its ok to go and where its not ok to go, but once you have learned it, it is absolutely beautiful and never crowded. No one knows how to navigate back there and no one goes there. Morris Island Lighthouse stands out in the middle of the ocean now, and there are sandbars around it that are great to pull up to, particularly in a small Whaler. Was just there a few weeks ago.

- With all of that being said, my favorite place in the entire world, for "atmosphere" is Murrells Inlet, SC. (note: I have lived in Charleston for 20 years and boated in every single body of water around). My recommendation for the best boating / staying on the water experience in SC is to rent a condo at Marlin Quay Marina (note I started working there on the docks 22 years ago and ran boats out of there many summers) and a slip to put your boat in. You can run across to Murrells Inlet in literally 60 seconds in a Whaler and go eat at any number of restaurants on the water, with a big river walk. There is also an absolutely excellent beach at the point of Garden City to hang out on (was there this past weekend), and small jetties that mean one can be in the ocean in no time. There is a reef only three miles out, plenty of fishing around the jetties, in the creek, and in the ocean, and one can run the Grand Strand on a calm day to Little River Inlet at the NC / SC border in about an hour and a half.

- The End

jcdawg83 posted 06-24-2014 03:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for jcdawg83    
SCJoe, I haven't been to the wreck in about 7 or 8 years either. It was still sort of an unknown place when I was last there, the food was good and the price wasn't crazy high. There were no shrimp boats docked there the last time we went and you are correct about their not really cottoning to pleasure boaters, especially now that Shem is crowded with boats, kayaks, paddle boards and jet skis.

The Pinckney idea is a good one, but I think would take Bill Gates money to turn that into a nice hotel/restaurant. I agree about the relative lack of good boat accessible restaurants/bars in Charleston. I imagine the cost of construction and maintenance of dock space is a limiting factor.

SC Joe posted 06-25-2014 02:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for SC Joe  Send Email to SC Joe     
I forgot about the Variety Store restaurant. The last time I tried to go there by water the dock master (or at least the guy working the gas dock) told me I couldn't park there unless I was renting a slip. Not being in a mood to argue with him over mediocre food, I left. I think we went to Red's to drink beer.

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