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jcdawg83 posted 06-19-2014 03:41 PM ET (US)
What size Yeti cooler fits well in place of the Igloo on a classic Montauk. I currently have the 94qt Igloo and it is OK at keeping ice, but I am tired of replacing latches on it. The plastic latches don't last more than two seasons. The lid is also cracking and I don't like the way a cracked cooler lid looks.
I don't know if a Yeti or Engel or other higher end cooler will keep ice much better, but I know they will last longer.
I looked at the Yeti website and it looks like the 105qt might fit. Does anyone have any experience with this?
contender posted 06-19-2014 04:34 PM ET (US)
I'm not saying the yeti or other coolers of this type are better or not, but the problem is not if it keeps ice more,(longer) The problem are all the other varabiles that come into play like temperature, the amout of times you open the lid. amount of items, amount of ice and the size of the ice. Dollar for dollar its hard to beat an igloo. The cost of a yeti is 3 times the cost of a igloo...So you can purchase 3 igloos for the cost of one yeti...to each his own
deepwater posted 06-19-2014 06:40 PM ET (US)
I found a small chunk of dry ice off to the side with the frozen things like ice and stakes it would not only keep them frozen but the cold drift over would almost make a beer slusshy,,, some grocery stores carry dri ice in small blocks so you can share with friends
wally910 posted 06-19-2014 06:43 PM ET (US)
I'm fairly certain a 105 qt Yeti will not fit, at least not well. They seem to be much larger than the Igloos for any given volume.
Jefecinco posted 06-19-2014 07:34 PM ET (US)
I've replaced the plastic latch on the Igloo cooler on my Montauk with a stainless steel latch also made by Igloo. I am fairly sure I bought it at West Marine. A little pricey but well below the cost of a replacement cooler. It is a piece part exact replacement.
Butch
wally910 posted 06-19-2014 07:47 PM ET (US)
I am retracting my previous post, after looking at the dimensions, the 105 would fit, though the 110 seems closer to the dimensions of the Igloo 94. Another option is the Engel Deep Blue 80, which is almost identical to the igloo 94 specs.
jcdawg83 posted 06-20-2014 01:39 PM ET (US)
I saw the youtube video of the cooler test, which, while not done in a controlled, scientific environment, showed the Engel to be the best choice for outdoorsmen. I can get a Yeti at almost dealer cost, which is still much more than I like to spend on a cooler. My conflict is whether to continue buying parts for the Igloo, which fared very poorly in the cooler test, coming in behind even the Coleman, or go for it and buy a high end cooler.
The fear of theft is also a concern as I sometimes leave my boat in the water for a week or so. I really don't want to have to lug the cooler back and forth to the car and I don't want to lie awake at night wondering if my cooler has a new home. The locks and tie downs offer some security but locks only deter the honest thieves. A real thief would damage the boat in order to steal the cooler.
I may try the stainless latches as a stop gap. If they don't work, I will reevaluate.
contender posted 06-20-2014 02:57 PM ET (US)
You guys that are having trouble with the plastic hinges on your igloo, they do have an up grade that is a plastic hinge, does not wear out
contender posted 06-20-2014 02:58 PM ET (US)
I mean its like a door hinge with a pin that it rotates on
leadsled posted 06-21-2014 07:43 AM ET (US)
I found a way to make ice last and fairly cheap. I have an old 128 qt cooler for the big stripers I catch once in a while. I found that a coleman 48 quart cooler for $20 just fits inside the 128 qt with room to spare for a 5 gal bucket.
I fill the 48 qt cooler with blocks of ice that I make and being inside the 128 qt cooler I found that the ice lasts many days. If I happen to catch some big fish I take the small cooler out and break up the blocks to cover the fish in the big cooler. You could find a cooler smaller than the 48 qt to fit inside your 94 qt and save a ton of money for ice and not worry about someone stealing your Yeti
contender posted 06-21-2014 09:08 AM ET (US)
Lead, good one, During Hurricane season we take 5 gallon buckets of water to the local food store (Publix), they have massive freezers that freeze them. The other opition is to freeze gallon water jugs, keeps everything cold for a long time, no water leaking getting in/on your sandwich, and as the ice melts you can drink the pure clean water.
Dave Sutton posted 06-22-2014 08:17 AM ET (US)
Just a few observations: The "super coolers" like the Yeti are excellent for extended multi-day trips where the combination of high insulative capabilities, and the users extreme care in packing food, possible use of dry ice, limiting the number of times the cooler is opened to once or twice a day (removing the days food for storage in a "day cooler" and then reclosing), and the use of a styrofoam inner-lid inside the main box can keep food cold for well over a week. This is how we pack fresh food for trips out to the Marquesas from Key West for 10 days at a time. They are also useful for air-freighting fish or meat home after a fishing or hunting trip, or for other critical uses.
For day trip use on a small boat their capabilities are wasted.
For overnight use on a small boat there are other coolers that work equally well.
For a week? That's their forte.
Last comment: Dry Ice is your friend. Packed a cooler filled with frozen Mahi streaks from a few fish I trolled up when running north from Miami to Stuart in March, topped it with a few blocks of dry ice bought at the local grocery store in Stuart, made a 3 day drive home, and they were still ice-cream hard when we got home. Still enjoying them now.

Dave
.
contender posted 06-22-2014 10:22 AM ET (US)
Dave, So you travel to the Marquesas off of Key West, what time of the year do you go? If you go in July-Sept. I do not think your ice will last 10 days, Like I said the cooler (Yeti or any other high brand) still has to deal with the opening and closing, temp out side. and the humidity. Even if you have a day cooler and your yeti, the ice will not last in the day cooler forcing you to open the yeti for more ice more than once/twice a day. I use to camp on the Marquesas many moons ago (I do not think you are allowed to do that any more) and durning this time its Africa Hot down there, we would have to send a boat back to Key West just to get Ice (and more beer). Question: does the same size of dry ice last just as long as regular ice? Once dry ice melts you have a vapor (which you would loose when you open the lid), when regular ice melts you still have cold water for a while. Take care
Dave Sutton posted 06-23-2014 08:30 AM ET (US)
^^ Experience trumps theory every time.
We went in February and had dry ice still available after 10 days when we returned to Key West. We did everything needed to maintain it though: Inner lid of styrofoam, opened the cooler once a day to retrieve the days food for placement into the day-refrigerator, refilled the cooler with replacement pre-cooled mass (canned food that we pre-cooled in our 12 volt day-refrigerator) as we removed frozen food in order to reduce the dead volume of air in the cooler, kept the cooler under shade, and had hard-frozen everything before placing it into the cooler to begin with before leaving. When packing to begin with we layered food so that discrete layers were removed for each day, reducing the "rummaging around" time in it when the lid was opened once a day. On a good day the lid was opened for 30 seconds daily. Towards the end it was longer as the top was becoming filled with canned food and our ice-cream was buried under that layer. We also started with 4 inches of dry ice in the cooler bottom and another layer on top.
It's all a matter of managing things correctly. Basically the thermal load on the dry ice load was to make up for loss thru insulation imperfection, loss for once a day opening, and loss to re-freeze the added mass of canned food that was placed into the cooler to keep it filled with mass. The worst thing you can do is to have open void volume in the cooler, as that cold air-mass is lost when the lid is opened and a replacement air mass needs to be chilled by the dry ice after it's closed.
The bottom line is that this level of use is where the top-tier coolers work when no others will do. Igloos are fine for a trip of a few days if managed correctly.

Dave
.
Dave Sutton posted 06-23-2014 08:37 AM ET (US)
^^ I should add to the above that if I was dry camping in the tropics, I would have used water bottles as the replacement mass, not canned food, in order to keep drining water cold. I would expect the bottles to be frozen when removed. Requiring that thermal exchange from the dry ice to the warm (hot if not pre-chilled) water would certainly reduce the time of being able to keep the cooler cold.
Several smaller coolersa are better than one large one in this case, as you can continue to reduce the remaining ice and food into fewer containers in order to keep the cooler filled while not needing to chill replacement mass. You DO NOT want to have void space in the cooler and you want to reduce the quantity of ambient temperature replacement mass to absolute minimum. It's all just basic thermodynamics.

Dave
.
padrefigure posted 06-23-2014 09:06 AM ET (US)
I think the 85 quart is most comparable to the Igloo 94. However, on my Outrage 22, I replaced the 94 quart cooler with a 105Qt Yeti and removed the floor chocks. The cooler sits snuggly between the front storage lockers and the console. It is a little taller than the igloo, so is more comfortable to sit on. Plus, I use it as a casting platform. We use the front cooler for drinks and food and have a separate 155qt for fish behind the leaning post. A 94 quart igloo rounds out the lineup as a dry box under the leaning post. We do not overnight out of the boat, but we fish for several days running. Each night we drain the water build up, add drinks and food and top with additional ice. My first Yeti is an 85 quart that is now 5 years old. It now rides in the back of the truck as the transport cooler from home to the coast. I have never replaced a hinge or latch and the lid is still flat and seals tight enough to draw a vacume.
17 bodega posted 06-23-2014 08:55 PM ET (US)
I have the Tundra 125 mounted with the straps on the front of a classic 16, and it serves as a great cooler/above deck storage and she is snug and secure.
I am a fan boy of the high end coolers, because I find that the igloo's die after a couple of seasons and at close to $100 a pop it is cheaper to buy a $500 cooler/storage that is lifetime.
Another great cooler is the Pelican, guaranteed for life and built the same way as the flight cases used for all types of gear.

Steve
frontier posted 06-25-2014 12:14 PM ET (US)
I see the Yeti now comes in a 'Desert Tan' type color.

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Author	Topic: Yeti cooler size
jcdawg83	posted 06-19-2014 03:41 PM ET (US) What size Yeti cooler fits well in place of the Igloo on a classic Montauk. I currently have the 94qt Igloo and it is OK at keeping ice, but I am tired of replacing latches on it. The plastic latches don't last more than two seasons. The lid is also cracking and I don't like the way a cracked cooler lid looks. I don't know if a Yeti or Engel or other higher end cooler will keep ice much better, but I know they will last longer. I looked at the Yeti website and it looks like the 105qt might fit. Does anyone have any experience with this?
contender	posted 06-19-2014 04:34 PM ET (US) I'm not saying the yeti or other coolers of this type are better or not, but the problem is not if it keeps ice more,(longer) The problem are all the other varabiles that come into play like temperature, the amout of times you open the lid. amount of items, amount of ice and the size of the ice. Dollar for dollar its hard to beat an igloo. The cost of a yeti is 3 times the cost of a igloo...So you can purchase 3 igloos for the cost of one yeti...to each his own
deepwater	posted 06-19-2014 06:40 PM ET (US) I found a small chunk of dry ice off to the side with the frozen things like ice and stakes it would not only keep them frozen but the cold drift over would almost make a beer slusshy,,, some grocery stores carry dri ice in small blocks so you can share with friends
wally910	posted 06-19-2014 06:43 PM ET (US) I'm fairly certain a 105 qt Yeti will not fit, at least not well. They seem to be much larger than the Igloos for any given volume.
Jefecinco	posted 06-19-2014 07:34 PM ET (US) I've replaced the plastic latch on the Igloo cooler on my Montauk with a stainless steel latch also made by Igloo. I am fairly sure I bought it at West Marine. A little pricey but well below the cost of a replacement cooler. It is a piece part exact replacement. Butch
wally910	posted 06-19-2014 07:47 PM ET (US) I am retracting my previous post, after looking at the dimensions, the 105 would fit, though the 110 seems closer to the dimensions of the Igloo 94. Another option is the Engel Deep Blue 80, which is almost identical to the igloo 94 specs.
jcdawg83	posted 06-20-2014 01:39 PM ET (US) I saw the youtube video of the cooler test, which, while not done in a controlled, scientific environment, showed the Engel to be the best choice for outdoorsmen. I can get a Yeti at almost dealer cost, which is still much more than I like to spend on a cooler. My conflict is whether to continue buying parts for the Igloo, which fared very poorly in the cooler test, coming in behind even the Coleman, or go for it and buy a high end cooler. The fear of theft is also a concern as I sometimes leave my boat in the water for a week or so. I really don't want to have to lug the cooler back and forth to the car and I don't want to lie awake at night wondering if my cooler has a new home. The locks and tie downs offer some security but locks only deter the honest thieves. A real thief would damage the boat in order to steal the cooler. I may try the stainless latches as a stop gap. If they don't work, I will reevaluate.
contender	posted 06-20-2014 02:57 PM ET (US) You guys that are having trouble with the plastic hinges on your igloo, they do have an up grade that is a plastic hinge, does not wear out
contender	posted 06-20-2014 02:58 PM ET (US) I mean its like a door hinge with a pin that it rotates on
leadsled	posted 06-21-2014 07:43 AM ET (US) I found a way to make ice last and fairly cheap. I have an old 128 qt cooler for the big stripers I catch once in a while. I found that a coleman 48 quart cooler for $20 just fits inside the 128 qt with room to spare for a 5 gal bucket. I fill the 48 qt cooler with blocks of ice that I make and being inside the 128 qt cooler I found that the ice lasts many days. If I happen to catch some big fish I take the small cooler out and break up the blocks to cover the fish in the big cooler. You could find a cooler smaller than the 48 qt to fit inside your 94 qt and save a ton of money for ice and not worry about someone stealing your Yeti
contender	posted 06-21-2014 09:08 AM ET (US) Lead, good one, During Hurricane season we take 5 gallon buckets of water to the local food store (Publix), they have massive freezers that freeze them. The other opition is to freeze gallon water jugs, keeps everything cold for a long time, no water leaking getting in/on your sandwich, and as the ice melts you can drink the pure clean water.
Dave Sutton	posted 06-22-2014 08:17 AM ET (US) Just a few observations: The "super coolers" like the Yeti are excellent for extended multi-day trips where the combination of high insulative capabilities, and the users extreme care in packing food, possible use of dry ice, limiting the number of times the cooler is opened to once or twice a day (removing the days food for storage in a "day cooler" and then reclosing), and the use of a styrofoam inner-lid inside the main box can keep food cold for well over a week. This is how we pack fresh food for trips out to the Marquesas from Key West for 10 days at a time. They are also useful for air-freighting fish or meat home after a fishing or hunting trip, or for other critical uses. For day trip use on a small boat their capabilities are wasted. For overnight use on a small boat there are other coolers that work equally well. For a week? That's their forte. Last comment: Dry Ice is your friend. Packed a cooler filled with frozen Mahi streaks from a few fish I trolled up when running north from Miami to Stuart in March, topped it with a few blocks of dry ice bought at the local grocery store in Stuart, made a 3 day drive home, and they were still ice-cream hard when we got home. Still enjoying them now. Dave .
contender	posted 06-22-2014 10:22 AM ET (US) Dave, So you travel to the Marquesas off of Key West, what time of the year do you go? If you go in July-Sept. I do not think your ice will last 10 days, Like I said the cooler (Yeti or any other high brand) still has to deal with the opening and closing, temp out side. and the humidity. Even if you have a day cooler and your yeti, the ice will not last in the day cooler forcing you to open the yeti for more ice more than once/twice a day. I use to camp on the Marquesas many moons ago (I do not think you are allowed to do that any more) and durning this time its Africa Hot down there, we would have to send a boat back to Key West just to get Ice (and more beer). Question: does the same size of dry ice last just as long as regular ice? Once dry ice melts you have a vapor (which you would loose when you open the lid), when regular ice melts you still have cold water for a while. Take care
Dave Sutton	posted 06-23-2014 08:30 AM ET (US) ^^ Experience trumps theory every time. We went in February and had dry ice still available after 10 days when we returned to Key West. We did everything needed to maintain it though: Inner lid of styrofoam, opened the cooler once a day to retrieve the days food for placement into the day-refrigerator, refilled the cooler with replacement pre-cooled mass (canned food that we pre-cooled in our 12 volt day-refrigerator) as we removed frozen food in order to reduce the dead volume of air in the cooler, kept the cooler under shade, and had hard-frozen everything before placing it into the cooler to begin with before leaving. When packing to begin with we layered food so that discrete layers were removed for each day, reducing the "rummaging around" time in it when the lid was opened once a day. On a good day the lid was opened for 30 seconds daily. Towards the end it was longer as the top was becoming filled with canned food and our ice-cream was buried under that layer. We also started with 4 inches of dry ice in the cooler bottom and another layer on top. It's all a matter of managing things correctly. Basically the thermal load on the dry ice load was to make up for loss thru insulation imperfection, loss for once a day opening, and loss to re-freeze the added mass of canned food that was placed into the cooler to keep it filled with mass. The worst thing you can do is to have open void volume in the cooler, as that cold air-mass is lost when the lid is opened and a replacement air mass needs to be chilled by the dry ice after it's closed. The bottom line is that this level of use is where the top-tier coolers work when no others will do. Igloos are fine for a trip of a few days if managed correctly. Dave .
Dave Sutton	posted 06-23-2014 08:37 AM ET (US) ^^ I should add to the above that if I was dry camping in the tropics, I would have used water bottles as the replacement mass, not canned food, in order to keep drining water cold. I would expect the bottles to be frozen when removed. Requiring that thermal exchange from the dry ice to the warm (hot if not pre-chilled) water would certainly reduce the time of being able to keep the cooler cold. Several smaller coolersa are better than one large one in this case, as you can continue to reduce the remaining ice and food into fewer containers in order to keep the cooler filled while not needing to chill replacement mass. You DO NOT want to have void space in the cooler and you want to reduce the quantity of ambient temperature replacement mass to absolute minimum. It's all just basic thermodynamics. Dave .
padrefigure	posted 06-23-2014 09:06 AM ET (US) I think the 85 quart is most comparable to the Igloo 94. However, on my Outrage 22, I replaced the 94 quart cooler with a 105Qt Yeti and removed the floor chocks. The cooler sits snuggly between the front storage lockers and the console. It is a little taller than the igloo, so is more comfortable to sit on. Plus, I use it as a casting platform. We use the front cooler for drinks and food and have a separate 155qt for fish behind the leaning post. A 94 quart igloo rounds out the lineup as a dry box under the leaning post. We do not overnight out of the boat, but we fish for several days running. Each night we drain the water build up, add drinks and food and top with additional ice. My first Yeti is an 85 quart that is now 5 years old. It now rides in the back of the truck as the transport cooler from home to the coast. I have never replaced a hinge or latch and the lid is still flat and seals tight enough to draw a vacume.
17 bodega	posted 06-23-2014 08:55 PM ET (US) I have the Tundra 125 mounted with the straps on the front of a classic 16, and it serves as a great cooler/above deck storage and she is snug and secure. I am a fan boy of the high end coolers, because I find that the igloo's die after a couple of seasons and at close to $100 a pop it is cheaper to buy a $500 cooler/storage that is lifetime. Another great cooler is the Pelican, guaranteed for life and built the same way as the flight cases used for all types of gear. Steve
frontier	posted 06-25-2014 12:14 PM ET (US) I see the Yeti now comes in a 'Desert Tan' type color.