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deepwater posted 07-03-2014 08:53 PM ET (US)
What is the weight of a 23 Walkaround with twin 150-HP Yamaha F150 engines? Are the topsides cluttered?
jimh posted 07-03-2014 09:02 AM ET (US)
The dry boat weight of a Whaler 23 Walkaround outboard is 4,050-lbs. The weight of a Yamaha F150 engine can be found on the Yamaha outboard engine website. The topsides are uncluttered.
boatdryver posted 07-03-2014 09:40 AM ET (US)
Cluttered or uncluttered with what?
JimL
jimh posted 07-03-2014 01:34 PM ET (US)
I have carefully estimated the topside clutter and found it to rate at an index rating of 0.174-clutter units on the universal topside clutter scale for Boston Whaler boats.
Jeff posted 07-03-2014 01:40 PM ET (US)
Is the 23 Walkaround a notched transom or WhalerDrive?
Jeff posted 07-03-2014 01:44 PM ET (US)
For the record, I am not sure what your cluttered question is really getting at, but here is a full set of photos of our 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive. Deck, cockpit, cabin, storage, trailer, etc etc....
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jeff_rohlfing/library/ 1993%2023%20Boston%20Whaler%20Walkaround%20Whalerdrive?sort=2&page=1
Marlin posted 07-03-2014 01:57 PM ET (US)
0.174 is pretty good. Definitely stay away from any boat that's over 2.27.
deepwater posted 07-03-2014 11:28 PM ET (US)
Clutter is anything and everything above deck that is [a]ffected by wind at speed[.] People would be clutter[.]
David Pendleton posted 07-04-2014 02:47 AM ET (US)
I have the (relatively) modern-day equivalent of the 23 Walkaround, the 23 Conquest, and my UTCS is significantly higher than .174 due to an aluminum hardtop.
jimh posted 07-04-2014 10:23 AM ET (US)
Since every object that I can think of is affected by wind, perhaps deepwater can give us a list of excluded objects which he does not consider to be clutter. This might be simpler than trying to give a list of included objects.
Jbeaux2000 posted 07-04-2014 11:05 AM ET (US)
Typical answer from Jimh. ..Always spouting specifics and details trying to confuse and obscure the reality.
His reported .174 CLU's obviously didn't factor in humidity, barometric pressure gradients, temperature, and captains dietary habits. I have read on another website- and a LOT of people posted to agree with this even though they don't own a 23 walkaround or have even seen one in person- that a more reasonable .232 CLU value is appropriate. Of course, we all know it matters whether we use CLU at the transom values or the much more accurate CLU at the helm value, but that is for another thread I'm sure.
Rookies.
boatdryver posted 07-04-2014 12:21 PM ET (US)
Topsides is defined as that part of the hull between the waterline and the deck
JimL
jimh posted 07-04-2014 06:56 PM ET (US)
Hah! Joke's on you. My clutter index is carefully calculated at 998-millibars.
jimh posted 07-06-2014 08:43 AM ET (US)

quote:
Topsides is defined as that part of the hull between the waterline and the deck.
From www.thefreedictionary.com:
topside
noun
  1. The surface of a ship's hull above the water line
  2. The highest position of authority
adverb or adjective
  1. On or to the upper parts of a ship; on deck
  2. In a position of authority
Source: The American Heritage Dictionary
EJO posted 07-07-2014 03:43 PM ET (US)
If you're a boater topsides are still the sides (waterline to gunnel) of a boat no matter what the Heritage says. The clutter might be on Deck but the pictures don't show much clutter even at .98 Atmosphere.
To the OP there seemed to be at least a couple of hundred lbs of clutter in all the nooks and crannies shown in the pictures. More of course if the port-a-potty is full.

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Author	Topic: 23 Walkaround Boat Weight, Topsides
deepwater	posted 07-03-2014 08:53 PM ET (US) What is the weight of a 23 Walkaround with twin 150-HP Yamaha F150 engines? Are the topsides cluttered?
jimh	posted 07-03-2014 09:02 AM ET (US) The dry boat weight of a Whaler 23 Walkaround outboard is 4,050-lbs. The weight of a Yamaha F150 engine can be found on the Yamaha outboard engine website. The topsides are uncluttered.
boatdryver	posted 07-03-2014 09:40 AM ET (US) Cluttered or uncluttered with what? JimL
jimh	posted 07-03-2014 01:34 PM ET (US) I have carefully estimated the topside clutter and found it to rate at an index rating of 0.174-clutter units on the universal topside clutter scale for Boston Whaler boats.
Jeff	posted 07-03-2014 01:40 PM ET (US) Is the 23 Walkaround a notched transom or WhalerDrive?
Jeff	posted 07-03-2014 01:44 PM ET (US) For the record, I am not sure what your cluttered question is really getting at, but here is a full set of photos of our 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive. Deck, cockpit, cabin, storage, trailer, etc etc.... http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jeff_rohlfing/library/ 1993%2023%20Boston%20Whaler%20Walkaround%20Whalerdrive?sort=2&page=1
Marlin	posted 07-03-2014 01:57 PM ET (US) 0.174 is pretty good. Definitely stay away from any boat that's over 2.27.
deepwater	posted 07-03-2014 11:28 PM ET (US) Clutter is anything and everything above deck that is [a]ffected by wind at speed[.] People would be clutter[.]
David Pendleton	posted 07-04-2014 02:47 AM ET (US) I have the (relatively) modern-day equivalent of the 23 Walkaround, the 23 Conquest, and my UTCS is significantly higher than .174 due to an aluminum hardtop.
jimh	posted 07-04-2014 10:23 AM ET (US) Since every object that I can think of is affected by wind, perhaps deepwater can give us a list of excluded objects which he does not consider to be clutter. This might be simpler than trying to give a list of included objects.
Jbeaux2000	posted 07-04-2014 11:05 AM ET (US) Typical answer from Jimh. ..Always spouting specifics and details trying to confuse and obscure the reality. His reported .174 CLU's obviously didn't factor in humidity, barometric pressure gradients, temperature, and captains dietary habits. I have read on another website- and a LOT of people posted to agree with this even though they don't own a 23 walkaround or have even seen one in person- that a more reasonable .232 CLU value is appropriate. Of course, we all know it matters whether we use CLU at the transom values or the much more accurate CLU at the helm value, but that is for another thread I'm sure. Rookies.
boatdryver	posted 07-04-2014 12:21 PM ET (US) Topsides is defined as that part of the hull between the waterline and the deck JimL
jimh	posted 07-04-2014 06:56 PM ET (US) Hah! Joke's on you. My clutter index is carefully calculated at 998-millibars.
jimh	posted 07-06-2014 08:43 AM ET (US) quote: Topsides is defined as that part of the hull between the waterline and the deck. From www.thefreedictionary.com: topside noun 1. The surface of a ship's hull above the water line 2. The highest position of authority adverb or adjective 1. On or to the upper parts of a ship; on deck 2. In a position of authority Source: The American Heritage Dictionary
EJO	posted 07-07-2014 03:43 PM ET (US) If you're a boater topsides are still the sides (waterline to gunnel) of a boat no matter what the Heritage says. The clutter might be on Deck but the pictures don't show much clutter even at .98 Atmosphere. To the OP there seemed to be at least a couple of hundred lbs of clutter in all the nooks and crannies shown in the pictures. More of course if the port-a-potty is full.