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Marsh posted 07-06-2014 02:20 PM ET (US)
The little buggers have nested somewhere in my rigging tunnel. They enter/exit via the opening for the cables fuel line on the side of the splash well. Wonder if a heavy dose of wasp spray will harm anything? I'm gonna wait until dark, and open the access port, to see what I can see. I had considered just setting off a fogger, but the label warned against use in a confined space, due to danger of explosion. So, I guess I'll try regular old wasp spray. Might have my shop vac handy, to suck them up as they try to escape...or maybe that's a bit foolhardy.
Any advice from my fellow Whalers?
jimh posted 07-06-2014 03:59 PM ET (US)
Bees are something of an endangered species these days. Perhaps you can get them to move their hive away from the boat without killing them.
cc378 posted 07-06-2014 05:57 PM ET (US)
How about slowly filling the rigging tunnel with water?
Marsh posted 07-06-2014 06:53 PM ET (US)
Jim, I would agree with you if they were bees, but they are yellow jacket wasps. Known here abouts for building their nests in holes in the ground, then springing enmass at the unsuspecting. Unlike bees, which lose their stinger after a single sting, yellow jackets can sting multiple times...and often do so. Nasty little critters, with no redeeming value that I can see.
Jefecinco posted 07-06-2014 07:11 PM ET (US)
Wasp spray followed the next day by by a good spray rinse in the tunnel. The instructions on my wasp spray cans suggest the best time of day to use the spray. Our wasps are the type that build paper type nests that hang from window jambs, etc. The are easy to see and kill. I'm unfamiliar with your yellow jackets.
Butch
masbama posted 07-06-2014 07:25 PM ET (US)
Spray the hell out of them.
jimh posted 07-06-2014 07:41 PM ET (US)
OK--wasps--I understand now. I had a bad infestation of them in my old house. The means of ingress was a little hole in the siding where the lead-in for an old television antenna was once routed. There was a big colony in the inside wall. What a mess. A long continuous spray of one whole can of wasp spray did them in.
Mike Kub posted 07-07-2014 01:47 PM ET (US)
I had cat poop in my console this weekend.
EJO posted 07-07-2014 03:28 PM ET (US)
mIKE I WOULD GET RID OF THE CAT
David Pendleton posted 07-07-2014 10:23 PM ET (US)
I think I would flood the hull if at all possible.
Otherwise, nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...
firebrand posted 07-08-2014 07:13 AM ET (US)
Wait for a cool morning and then flood the tunnel with boiling salt water. Works great on in-ground nests as well.
EJO posted 07-08-2014 01:02 PM ET (US)
Make sure you boil them and use them for bait as the fish like them better boiled.
Just kill them any way you can.
I can't think of any no good reason for them to live (after several emergency room visits after getting stung by them) I travel and boat with EPIpens always withing close reach.
Landlocked posted 07-11-2014 09:48 AM ET (US)
I had the same thing happen a few years ago. I just stuck a hose in the end of the rigging tunnel under the console. Walked back to the house, turned it on and let it run for a half hour on full. Took care of the problem.
Ll.
Marsh posted 07-16-2014 10:12 PM ET (US)
Waited until dark, then sprayed them heavily with RAID wasp spray via the access port. Went back the next day, and all were dead. Nest was the size of a pie plate. Vacuumed it all up with my shop vac...that reminds me: I still need to clean out my shop vac!
myakka posted 07-17-2014 04:25 AM ET (US)
Could be worse. I had a pair of snakes on mine.
johnhenry posted 07-17-2014 05:22 PM ET (US)
Ummm. You should never spray any insecticides, pesticides,or herbicides outdoors. All are poisonous to pollinators and are contributing to Colony collapse in Honey bees and the disappearance of other pollinators such as Bumble Bees.
Yellow Jackets are only accidental pollinators but are great at keeping insects and plant eaters out of your garden. They eat bugs! No round up, no nothing. If water will do the trick, great. I had a nest in my boat. Put my beekeeping clothes on and got rid of it. No Poison, period, if outdoors. If you can't do it yourself, call a local backyard beekeeper, we are everywhere and would love to help if you don't want to deal with it yourself. Not a sermon, just a thought.

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Author	Topic: Yellow jackets in my 170 Montauk!
Marsh	posted 07-06-2014 02:20 PM ET (US) The little buggers have nested somewhere in my rigging tunnel. They enter/exit via the opening for the cables fuel line on the side of the splash well. Wonder if a heavy dose of wasp spray will harm anything? I'm gonna wait until dark, and open the access port, to see what I can see. I had considered just setting off a fogger, but the label warned against use in a confined space, due to danger of explosion. So, I guess I'll try regular old wasp spray. Might have my shop vac handy, to suck them up as they try to escape...or maybe that's a bit foolhardy. Any advice from my fellow Whalers?
jimh	posted 07-06-2014 03:59 PM ET (US) Bees are something of an endangered species these days. Perhaps you can get them to move their hive away from the boat without killing them.
cc378	posted 07-06-2014 05:57 PM ET (US) How about slowly filling the rigging tunnel with water?
Marsh	posted 07-06-2014 06:53 PM ET (US) Jim, I would agree with you if they were bees, but they are yellow jacket wasps. Known here abouts for building their nests in holes in the ground, then springing enmass at the unsuspecting. Unlike bees, which lose their stinger after a single sting, yellow jackets can sting multiple times...and often do so. Nasty little critters, with no redeeming value that I can see.
Jefecinco	posted 07-06-2014 07:11 PM ET (US) Wasp spray followed the next day by by a good spray rinse in the tunnel. The instructions on my wasp spray cans suggest the best time of day to use the spray. Our wasps are the type that build paper type nests that hang from window jambs, etc. The are easy to see and kill. I'm unfamiliar with your yellow jackets. Butch
masbama	posted 07-06-2014 07:25 PM ET (US) Spray the hell out of them.
jimh	posted 07-06-2014 07:41 PM ET (US) OK--wasps--I understand now. I had a bad infestation of them in my old house. The means of ingress was a little hole in the siding where the lead-in for an old television antenna was once routed. There was a big colony in the inside wall. What a mess. A long continuous spray of one whole can of wasp spray did them in.
Mike Kub	posted 07-07-2014 01:47 PM ET (US) I had cat poop in my console this weekend.
EJO	posted 07-07-2014 03:28 PM ET (US) mIKE I WOULD GET RID OF THE CAT
David Pendleton	posted 07-07-2014 10:23 PM ET (US) I think I would flood the hull if at all possible. Otherwise, nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...
firebrand	posted 07-08-2014 07:13 AM ET (US) Wait for a cool morning and then flood the tunnel with boiling salt water. Works great on in-ground nests as well.
EJO	posted 07-08-2014 01:02 PM ET (US) Make sure you boil them and use them for bait as the fish like them better boiled. Just kill them any way you can. I can't think of any no good reason for them to live (after several emergency room visits after getting stung by them) I travel and boat with EPIpens always withing close reach.
Landlocked	posted 07-11-2014 09:48 AM ET (US) I had the same thing happen a few years ago. I just stuck a hose in the end of the rigging tunnel under the console. Walked back to the house, turned it on and let it run for a half hour on full. Took care of the problem. Ll.
Marsh	posted 07-16-2014 10:12 PM ET (US) Waited until dark, then sprayed them heavily with RAID wasp spray via the access port. Went back the next day, and all were dead. Nest was the size of a pie plate. Vacuumed it all up with my shop vac...that reminds me: I still need to clean out my shop vac!
myakka	posted 07-17-2014 04:25 AM ET (US) Could be worse. I had a pair of snakes on mine.
johnhenry	posted 07-17-2014 05:22 PM ET (US) Ummm. You should never spray any insecticides, pesticides,or herbicides outdoors. All are poisonous to pollinators and are contributing to Colony collapse in Honey bees and the disappearance of other pollinators such as Bumble Bees. Yellow Jackets are only accidental pollinators but are great at keeping insects and plant eaters out of your garden. They eat bugs! No round up, no nothing. If water will do the trick, great. I had a nest in my boat. Put my beekeeping clothes on and got rid of it. No Poison, period, if outdoors. If you can't do it yourself, call a local backyard beekeeper, we are everywhere and would love to help if you don't want to deal with it yourself. Not a sermon, just a thought.