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Author | Topic: Federal Court Ruling: Asian Silver Carp In Great Lakes |
jimh |
posted 09-27-2014 12:51 PM ET (US)
Here is a link to the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh District published opinion on the case brought forward by several states against the United States Army Corps of Engineers alleging they failed to protect against invasion of Asian Carp. Here are some interesting extracts from this published opinion: In this action, five states bordering the Great Lakes and an Indian tribe assert that the Asian carp either will soon invade, or perhaps already have invaded, the Great Lakes and that they are poised to inflict billions of dollars of damage on the ecosystem. Believing that the responsible units of government have failed in their task of protecting the Great Lakes, the plaintiffs ask us to step in and impose measures to ensure that the carp are forever blocked from the Lakes. |
jimh |
posted 09-27-2014 01:02 PM ET (US)
A website JUSTIA.COM offers a summary of the opinion, as follows:
quote: They also have a download of the full opinion available at http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca7/12-3800/ 12-3800-2014-07-14.pdf |
jimh |
posted 09-27-2014 02:10 PM ET (US)
In their 2007 session, the Congress of the United States enacted the Water Resources Development Act of 2007, Public Law 110-114 and also known as WRDA 2007. This act authorized and created the Great Lakes and Mississippi River Inter-basin Study, or GLMRIS to be conducted by the United States Army Corps of Engineers. In acronym-speak, The WRDA 2007 authorized the USACE to form the GLMRIS. The GLMRIS is conducting a study to present a range of options and technology to prevent the spread of aquatic nuisance species (or ANS) between the Great Lakes basin and the Mississippi River basin by means of aquatic pathways. The GLMRIS has published a report. The report presents eight alternative plans, and evaluates how the plans will affect the use of the waterways and how they will affect the users of the waterways. The plan also includes advice on how to mitigate the effect of the implementation methods of the plans on the users and uses of the waterways. The report does not make a recommendation of any plan. The GLMRIS report says that it provides "evaluation criteria" which could be used by decision makers in further evaluation and comparison of the plans. Of the eight alternative plans considered, the "Plan 1" alternative is to do nothing. Plan 1 provides for no reduction of risk of invasion of aquatic nuisance species into the Great Lakes basin than presently exists. Plan 2 provides no actual structural changes, but suggests using chemical and education materials to control the spread of ANS. Plan 3 through Plan 8 provide for combination of nonstructural and structural changes, with each plan requiring various different control structures and methods to be built and operated. For each estimated plan, an estimated cost of implementation was developed: Plan 1 = $0 With regard to who might be "the decision makers" that will decide, it seems that elected officals--politicians--will be likely to become involved. With regard to maintaining water quality or use of water or preservation of water, it may be useful to note the following comments of an informed observer on these decision makers:
quote: Peter Annin, "The Great Lakes Water Wars," page xv, |
wezie |
posted 09-29-2014 11:04 AM ET (US)
They are there! If we could split the money wasted on this inevitable happening, we could drive new Boston Whalers forever. |
jimh |
posted 09-29-2014 11:52 AM ET (US)
It is unfortunate that the several states did not cite Wezie in their federal court case to provide the necessary evidence of "reliable facts" to "show that the carp pose a more immediate thread to the Lakes" that the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh District found to be lacking in their brief. |
deepwater |
posted 09-29-2014 05:45 PM ET (US)
[Changed topic. Please start a new thread for your new topic. This thread is discussing the legal efforts to prevent the spread of Asian Silver Carp into the Great Lakes. Thank you.--jimh] |
PeteB88 |
posted 09-30-2014 03:47 PM ET (US)
As I said a few years ago: I this were Crater Lake there would be 20,000 Oregonians and Californians up there fabricating their own electrified weirs and whatever else necessary to protect that lake. I am not messing around. I once figure out that the further East you get the more bureaucracy , less activist involvement and with that clear correlation to complaining, bitching and deflection off the main issue(s) thus, never a solution. Oh, except spending millions or billions of dollars making certain skids are greased for those "special" companies and law firms that, by design, spans decades. Pathetic. Dr Tanner told me the only solution is to rotenone the whole damn river system to the Mississippi - the native species will come back Greatest Generation lead by Dwight D Eisenhower built most of the interstate highway system within 10 years. Local projects are forecasted to take decades. I am so glad I lived the years I have - kid in 50s, pubic schools 60s to early 70s, the 70s, 80s, 90s - best years and our kids will never ever live as good. |
deepwater |
posted 10-01-2014 01:50 AM ET (US)
Can you, in a legal sense, net and transport the carp for commercial use? Or is a new law needed to insure that only dead carp are used? Laws restricting the net size to allow sport fish and or food fish to escape would be needed. |
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