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cc378 posted 11-27-2014 01:50 PM ET (US)   Profile for cc378   Send Email to cc378  
I was looking at my 1988 Outrage 20. She is in good shape, waxed 2x per year, shines right up, no real stress cracks and works great. Engine aside, I began to wonder, how long will she last?

Anyone ever contemplated this question?


Happy Thanksgiving to all...

Freddy posted 11-27-2014 03:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Freddy  Send Email to Freddy     
Happy Thanksgiving to you and everybody else.


Now to your question. I say A Whaler will last at least
137 years, 6 months and 14 days. But it depends.

PeteB88 posted 11-27-2014 09:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for PeteB88  Send Email to PeteB88     
Not really - So many old Whalers around answer pretty obvious - unless you screw one up, burn it, falls off a trailer, hit a jetty at night, collision flat out abuse it they're probably like DC3s just changes engines once in a while, upgrade electronics and put in some new cables/hoses. All GO
WhalerAce posted 11-28-2014 09:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for WhalerAce  Send Email to WhalerAce     
How long will a Diesel last? No one knows -- some of the first ones built are still running.

I fully expect my Whalers to outlast me, my kids, and their kids.

Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas!

martyn1075 posted 11-28-2014 11:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for martyn1075  Send Email to martyn1075     
Its very interesting question that is almost impossible to answer but makes you think about the possibilities. Boston Whalers are obviously proven to be very tough well made boat especially in the structure of the hull and will very likely outlast many other boat manufactures offerings. However there is nothing stronger and will never be stronger then nature. A few hundred years is more then some people can ever process. Could a Whaler really last that long we will never know. 200 years is a joke compared to what the big picture is in regards to natures weathering process. Try 200000 thousand years before its even considered major.

I think they will out live us as well while still serving a purpose retaining its characteristics of a high quality boat. This of course depends largely on how it is maintained from day one. Does anybody know the lifespan of foam used inside a boats hull structure? That is probably the best way to understand how long a Boston Whaler may last. Without the foam working properly the boat is probably done. We can always replace the gelcoat wires engines etc.

dfmcintyre posted 11-28-2014 04:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Depends on how stored, maintained and used.

I've seen early 1960's 13' sport boats still in use in my area. Some are in pretty weather shape. Two years ago, an friend had a local marine shop restore his 1966 16' Nauset, what was handed down from the first owner.... his dad. Up until that time, it spend it's summers in a covered boat hoist, so it had it's collection of scratches and dings. Console was pretty worn and loose. Hull suffered no penetrating holes, so it was dry and no rot in the transom.

It looks like a new boat. And will last the second owner and get passed to his kids.

Don

PeteB88 posted 11-29-2014 01:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for PeteB88  Send Email to PeteB88     
Until you wreck it.
Binkster posted 11-29-2014 02:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster  Send Email to Binkster     
Not that long if you beat the crap out of it. It may become the project boat I'm looking for. There like cats, Whalers have 9 lives -------at least.

rich

17 bodega posted 12-01-2014 09:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for 17 bodega  Send Email to 17 bodega     
my whaler is from 1971 (16 classic blue interior) and although it has endured patches in the bottom, many repaired screw holes in the deck, and countless "restorations" the boat *in my opinion* is structurally sound and safer that a great majority of other boats available to the recreational consumer.

Those who know me on this website know that I don't take particularly good care of my boat. I do pay attention to structural matters, and have it "approved" by the coast guard every few years. I have scraped reefs, ran over wash rocks in the ocean (yikes! I was pretty nervous about this one and had to inspect the boat after this! It was like a teeter totter on top of an ocean wash rock... but... there was a fair amount of kelp and critters to take some of the load... sorry to the sea life I interfered with) beached the boat on rocky shores, etc, etc. I have put this thing through a pretty rough life while I've owned it for the last 12 years or so!

I don't want to sell it, upgrade it, change it... it is perfect how it is... The 16 classic is an amazing hull. Light, tough as nails, and maneuvers like a surfboard in rough oceans! The only thing that whaler hulls are prone to is capsizing if you are not careful. We've seen it several times here on the west coast.

At some point I may modify this hull to a "menemsha" type camper shell design that the santa barbara boaters are known to like.

Steve

jimh posted 12-02-2014 01:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
PeteB88 writes in response to the question of the lifespan of a Boston Whaler boat hull:

quote:
Until you wreck it.

This is a good answer and I appreciate its conciseness. To reply with more prolixity, the hull will last until it is subjected to some stress that causes a catastrophic fracture of the hull that impairs its structural integrity so badly that a repair is not feasible. The time when this occurs is related to the strength of the hull.

We much consider that eventual decay or deterioration of the materials of the hull may reduce their strength so much that even very moderate stress, which the hull could have easily endured when new, might cause a structural failure. The working life of fiberglass reinforced plastic (FRP) is not exactly known, in part because some of the first products made with FRP construction are still in service and working quite well. Boat hulls made in the late 1950's and early 1960's with FRP resin-laminate construction are still in use.

The Boston Whaler boat is a bit different because of the very thin laminate layer and use of a foam inner core. The working life of the foam may be less than the FRP laminates. Since the hull needs the foam core for part of its strength, the failing of the foam could shorten the service life of the hull.

The durability of the foam with age seems to be greatly lengthened by avoiding damage that permits intrusion of water, particularly water under pressure.

We must similarly consider the embedded stiffeners made of wood. These components are also prone to decay with age, but if kept dry and free from rot, can maintain their strength for a long time.

We might postulate that if the foam core is kept dry and uncontaminated, the embedded wood dry and free from rot, and the outer laminate skin remains un-fractured and intact, the total hull strength should remain very close to as-new, and could continue to endure for a long long time.

Of course, the unknown factor is the force of any stress put on the hull. If the hull is subjected to very high stress and repeatedly so, there is a great possibility the hull will begin to work and move, and such flexing tends to ultimately lead to failure.

In summary, the working life can be very long if:

--repeated high stress is avoided

--the inner foam core and wood reinforcements are kept dry and free from decay

--the outer skin in kept free from damage or, if damaged, properly and quickly repaired.

deepwater posted 12-03-2014 03:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for deepwater  Send Email to deepwater     
I think the Whaler will last as long as the one that takes care of it [and] cares about it.
RevengeFamily posted 12-04-2014 06:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for RevengeFamily  Send Email to RevengeFamily     
I tend to agree with PeteB...

If you can keep it off of the pavement when trailering and not set fire to it, a Boston Whaler should easily out live us all... The analogy with the DC3 is perfect. Change the power plant and keep on keepin on!!!

Our boats (Boston Whalers) are some of the toughest recreational boats ever made... I take pride in the three that I have. (1967 Nauset,1990 Revenge22wt and 1999 280 Conquest)

In my opinion, physical damage to the hull which allows water intrusion is the primary reason Whalers may end up being scrapped.

Other than water intrusion, keep a fresh coat of wax on them and make it well defined in your Last Will and Testament who gets the boat or boats when you pass on...

Merry Christmas,
Norm

contender posted 12-04-2014 11:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
I say so far around 56 years, being made in 1958 until now. I have a 1962 13 (just a baby) but getting older evey day and still being used....
Treypescatorie posted 12-05-2014 06:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Treypescatorie  Send Email to Treypescatorie     
I have a 1968 13 Sport that I restored, people think its new.
Nantucket Sleighride posted 12-05-2014 10:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Nantucket Sleighride  Send Email to Nantucket Sleighride     
My brother has an early 70's Montauk named "Stars & Stripers".
In 1991 Hurricane "Bob" ripped it from it's mooring post and slammed it up on the rocks. Only minor repairs were required and this boat is still in use today.
The Unsinkable Legend lives on !
http://s389.photobucket.com/user/Nantucket_Sleighride/media/ HurricaneBob-1.jpg.html?sort=6&o=87
Spuds posted 12-15-2014 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for Spuds    
1961 Nauset, coming up on 54 years and still counting.

Finally, these boats are getting the recognition that they deserve. Wayne Carini, Grand Marshall of our national reknowned, Keels and Wheels Concours d' Elegance, was enthralled to see a classic Whaler among the beautiful Chris Crafts and other wooden boats. Growing up on the east coast, he told me he loved my Whaler and we talked about it's history.

Hang on to the old ones, take care of them and keep them similar to their original style.

I believe one day it will pay off.

Scroll down for the official entry photo of my Nauset.

http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/showthread.php?s=f9cb1294eb964e2f09524f8a717c2902&t=942897

jimh posted 12-15-2014 05:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Nice boat!

See it at

http://2coolfishing.com/ttmbforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1312785& stc=1&d=1398973328

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