Tendency of a 2002 Boston Whaler DAUNTLESS 18 to Have Problems With Soft Spots in the Deck

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DavidM posted 05-13-2015 09:51 PM ET (US)
[In] looking at an [2002 Boston Whaler] 18 Dauntless in good condition [that is for sale], there are two soft deck areas. One [is a] small area just aft of console about shoe size, and the other [is an area] aft of seat which seems to run along width of fuel tank deck cover along aft edge. On both sides [the rest of the deck is solid] and the rest of the boat [is solid]. Was [softness in these areas of the deck] a [tendency] with this model? Is the repair similar to the repair of a c.1980's Outrage? [The seller's asking] price may be right depending [upon the answer to the prior questions]. Thanks
masbama posted 05-13-2015 10:01 PM ET (US)
If I'm correct the deck floor are removable panels; they have no foam. At least that is the way it seems on my boat, 1999 18-foot Dauntless.
Jeff posted 05-13-2015 10:53 PM ET (US)
The repair should be the same as an 80's Outrage. Remove the floor and recore it.
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/outrageRestore.html
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/outrageRestore2.html
jimh posted 05-14-2015 01:04 AM ET (US)
I doubt that there was a known, chronic, constant, ineluctable, unavoidable, repeating problem with softness in two areas of the deck of Boston Whaler DAUNTLESS 18 boats made in model year 2002.
I don't know how the existence of a known, chronic, constant, ineluctable, unavoidable, repeating problem with softness in these areas of the deck in 2002 Boston Whaler DAUNTLESS 18 boats would affect your valuation of a used boat being offered for sale. If a boat has soft spots in the deck, those problems affect the value of the boat, and you wouldn't just ignore that sort of problem by figuring it was going to be seen in all boats. Any boat that has a problem with soft spots in the deck will need those areas repaired, so a buyer considering making an offer on a boat that needs repair should consider the cost of the repairs when making an offer.
It really does not matter if the existence of two soft spots in the deck is likely to be found in every boat of similar heritage or only in this particular boat. You should adjust your offer to suit the condition in which you find the boat.
Binkster posted 05-14-2015 12:13 PM ET (US)
Not a mind reader but maybe the thread originator was thinking there might be a recall on that model for soft floors and it would be fixed by the factory.
rich
jimh posted 05-14-2015 12:57 PM ET (US)
Rich--Good guess. Maybe that is what DavidM meant to ask about.
Maybe the real question here is even simpler: is the manifestation of a soft spot in the deck of a 13-year-old boat evidence of a defect in its original manufacture?
Generally a warranty to provide a remedy to defects in the original manufacture is limited to a certain time. A 2002 Boston Whaler boat is just a few years out of its ten-year-hull warranty. If someone really wanted to find out what a boat builder might be willing to do toward making a repair of a defect in the original manufacture for a boat that was three years past the expiration of the warranty, the only place to ask would be with the boat builder. Any opinion or anecdotal experience or speculation given here would really not be binding.
But my view is much simpler: when considering the purchase of a boat with a known problem, the price you are willing to pay to purchase the boat should include an allowance, that is, a discount, to cover the cost of the repair of the problem. The only time I can see where one might want to know the general tendency of boats of a particular model and age to exhibit the problem would be if you found a boat without the problem; that is, you might want to make some sort of informed judgement about the likelihood that a boat that has not yet shown the problem is going to eventually have that problem occur. If a boat already has the problem, it is just something to have repaired. Adjust the offer to purchase to include the cost of repair.
masbama posted 05-14-2015 08:08 PM ET (US)
My floor is fine, by the way.

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Author	Topic: Tendency of a 2002 Boston Whaler DAUNTLESS 18 to Have Problems With Soft Spots in the Deck
DavidM	posted 05-13-2015 09:51 PM ET (US) [In] looking at an [2002 Boston Whaler] 18 Dauntless in good condition [that is for sale], there are two soft deck areas. One [is a] small area just aft of console about shoe size, and the other [is an area] aft of seat which seems to run along width of fuel tank deck cover along aft edge. On both sides [the rest of the deck is solid] and the rest of the boat [is solid]. Was [softness in these areas of the deck] a [tendency] with this model? Is the repair similar to the repair of a c.1980's Outrage? [The seller's asking] price may be right depending [upon the answer to the prior questions]. Thanks
masbama	posted 05-13-2015 10:01 PM ET (US) If I'm correct the deck floor are removable panels; they have no foam. At least that is the way it seems on my boat, 1999 18-foot Dauntless.
Jeff	posted 05-13-2015 10:53 PM ET (US) The repair should be the same as an 80's Outrage. Remove the floor and recore it. http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/outrageRestore.html http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/outrageRestore2.html
jimh	posted 05-14-2015 01:04 AM ET (US) I doubt that there was a known, chronic, constant, ineluctable, unavoidable, repeating problem with softness in two areas of the deck of Boston Whaler DAUNTLESS 18 boats made in model year 2002. I don't know how the existence of a known, chronic, constant, ineluctable, unavoidable, repeating problem with softness in these areas of the deck in 2002 Boston Whaler DAUNTLESS 18 boats would affect your valuation of a used boat being offered for sale. If a boat has soft spots in the deck, those problems affect the value of the boat, and you wouldn't just ignore that sort of problem by figuring it was going to be seen in all boats. Any boat that has a problem with soft spots in the deck will need those areas repaired, so a buyer considering making an offer on a boat that needs repair should consider the cost of the repairs when making an offer. It really does not matter if the existence of two soft spots in the deck is likely to be found in every boat of similar heritage or only in this particular boat. You should adjust your offer to suit the condition in which you find the boat.
Binkster	posted 05-14-2015 12:13 PM ET (US) Not a mind reader but maybe the thread originator was thinking there might be a recall on that model for soft floors and it would be fixed by the factory. rich
jimh	posted 05-14-2015 12:57 PM ET (US) Rich--Good guess. Maybe that is what DavidM meant to ask about. Maybe the real question here is even simpler: is the manifestation of a soft spot in the deck of a 13-year-old boat evidence of a defect in its original manufacture? Generally a warranty to provide a remedy to defects in the original manufacture is limited to a certain time. A 2002 Boston Whaler boat is just a few years out of its ten-year-hull warranty. If someone really wanted to find out what a boat builder might be willing to do toward making a repair of a defect in the original manufacture for a boat that was three years past the expiration of the warranty, the only place to ask would be with the boat builder. Any opinion or anecdotal experience or speculation given here would really not be binding. But my view is much simpler: when considering the purchase of a boat with a known problem, the price you are willing to pay to purchase the boat should include an allowance, that is, a discount, to cover the cost of the repair of the problem. The only time I can see where one might want to know the general tendency of boats of a particular model and age to exhibit the problem would be if you found a boat without the problem; that is, you might want to make some sort of informed judgement about the likelihood that a boat that has not yet shown the problem is going to eventually have that problem occur. If a boat already has the problem, it is just something to have repaired. Adjust the offer to purchase to include the cost of repair.
masbama	posted 05-14-2015 08:08 PM ET (US) My floor is fine, by the way.