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samtay posted 08-15-2015 09:56 AM ET (US)   Profile for samtay   Send Email to samtay  
I [received] a text message asking if I still had my Boston Whaler for sale. I replied yes and immediately received an offer for the whole amount I was asking. Also, the buyer was going to send me my asking price via PayPal. The boat would be picked up by a shipping company after I received my money and deposited it in my bank account. I called PayPal and they said it was most likely a scam. I asked the prospective buyer what shipping company was going to be used. Never heard back. There was a telephone number attached to the text messages. We checked-out the number, and it was a scam. I don't understand how this scam worked but decided to stay away from this great offer.
martyn1075 posted 08-15-2015 03:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for martyn1075  Send Email to martyn1075     
Yes, never ever money-after, it is always money-first. And go to the bank with the buyer. Money needs to clear first. Another similar scam is the buyer will show up at your house and play the game as if they were real. Even pay for a so-called mechanic which is a bogus fiend and scammer, and then negotiate the deal. They leave, come back with a cheque. pick-up the boat, hand the cheque, and the boat is gone with a friendly wave. Cheque never clears. Waiting, but after a week they are long gone and the phone number was canceled from a stolen phone.
jimh posted 08-16-2015 09:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
SAMTAY--please explain the process you use used to "check out" the telephone number. What do you mean when you say that the telephone number itself was "a scam"? If there some mechanism or process or serivce you used that allows you to input a telephone number and get a result that determines the number is "a scam"?
samtay posted 08-16-2015 10:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for samtay  Send Email to samtay     
The prospective buyer only identified himself as "Jim" so we went to a number of reverse lookup sites on the internet. There were several complaints posted on this number and numerous complaints about texts from the same area code and exchange. We posted on our local USA4SALE site and the query came from over 1,000 miles away. With both USA4SALE and PayPal warning us of internet sales scams like this, it was enough to scare us off.
contender posted 08-16-2015 05:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
If you receive the money and it was in your account before you let the boat go, how is this a scam?
Jefecinco posted 08-16-2015 06:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jefecinco  Send Email to Jefecinco     
Often the money you receive is via a fraudulent instrument discovered after the fact. Even your bank is fooled but although the bank honors it they will collect back their money when they learn of the fraud.


samtay posted 08-17-2015 08:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for samtay  Send Email to samtay     
I also wondered how I could have been taken by a scammer so I looked further. Here is a web site that keeps tract of scams. .They show how PayPal is often used by scammers.

It sure is difficult to sell a boat when there are so many ways to loose your boat and your money.

Powergroove803 posted 08-17-2015 08:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for Powergroove803  Send Email to Powergroove803     
lots of times the check will initially clear, but weeks later the bank will find it to be fraudulent, not sure how it clears but that is what I have read.
Hoosier posted 08-17-2015 08:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Hoosier  Send Email to Hoosier     
Always get a Cashier's Check from a "name brand" bank/credit union and then call them to verify that they issued the check and it's good. When a bank issues a Cashier's Check it fences the money so the funds can only be used to cash the check. If the deal falls through the buyer can go back to the bank and "cash" his own check back into his account. My wife worked in retail and they would always call the bank when a customer paid with a large personal check. Under the "rules" all the bank can tell you is "that there are sufficient funds to cover the check" (right then, so be quick).
striper swiper posted 08-17-2015 09:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for striper swiper    
Any time I sell or offer an item on Craigslist : I always ask for a phone number to text or call the buyer. Upon receiving the phone number and /or email address I perform a google search on the name, check facebook for the name , do a reverse phone look up and speak to them on the phone if all sounds good.I utilize the webs broad information net on names and address such as zaba search.

I always insist on cash I don't care if its a middle age husband and wife. Don't be in a hurry to sell that's your weakness!
Of course I'm biased.. I'm a retired Police Sgt.

Binkster posted 08-17-2015 12:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Binkster  Send Email to Binkster     
Even if the buyer shows up with cash, take him down to your bank and let them check the money. If its good, deposit it and sign over the title.


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